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(New York Daily News)   EVERYTHING is BIGGER in TEXAS Including the chunk of cliff that collapsed and left the edge of your lakeside McMansion hanging out in mid-air   ( nydailynews.com) divider line
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2014-06-11 02:57:08 PM  
A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.
 
2014-06-11 03:11:05 PM  
A $700k home is "luxury"?  I'll have to tell my wife that.  Apparently, we live in a 1000sq ft McMansion.
 
2014-06-11 03:11:20 PM  
I've been cliff diving in Lake Whitney.  That mansion needs to nut up and jump.  It's fun.
 
2014-06-11 03:58:03 PM  
I'm having a hard time mustering sympathy.
 
2014-06-11 04:21:51 PM  

unyon: A $700k home is "luxury"?  I'll have to tell my wife that.  Apparently, we live in a 1000sq ft McMansion.


In most parts of Texas it is
 
2014-06-11 04:36:46 PM  
That's too bad for those rich people.
 
2014-06-11 04:37:48 PM  
I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-06-11 04:38:22 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-11 04:39:34 PM  
Regulations?  We don't need no stinkin' regulations!
 
2014-06-11 04:40:05 PM  

Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]


I don't think I've seen that house with people before.

It's smaller than I thought it was.
 
2014-06-11 04:41:19 PM  

ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.


it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered
 
2014-06-11 04:41:39 PM  

unyon: A $700k home is "luxury"?  I'll have to tell my wife that.  Apparently, we live in a 1000sq ft McMansion.


This may surprise you but, different parts of the country have different property values. $700k around here could buy you a genuine mansion. A nice 2000 sq ft house on a quarter acre goes for about 130K.
 
2014-06-11 04:42:25 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-11 04:42:58 PM  
I can't see it.

Something about a survey.
 
2014-06-11 04:43:49 PM  

Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.


I think that was built over granite. Central Texas is all limestone. A dog with a favorite spot could erode a limestone cliff.
 
2014-06-11 04:44:56 PM  
"I've got a cabin in the sky!" - Yosemite Sam
 
2014-06-11 04:45:24 PM  
McMansion (actual definition): A large, cheaply built home crammed into a small (1/4 acre or less) lot next to similar homes.

McMansion (as used here): Any home that smitty is likely paid to clean or deliver pizza to.

/Get out of your mom's basement, smitty
 
2014-06-11 04:45:36 PM  

wildcardjack: Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.

I think that was built over granite. Central Texas is all limestone. A dog with a favorite spot could erode a limestone cliff.


well that certainly takes the piss out of a geological survey.
 
2014-06-11 04:46:18 PM  
I wonder if their insurance policy covers "ground falling away from structure".

Come to think of it, do people who live in sink-hole prone areas have to buy special "structure and lot swallowed by earth" coverage?
 
2014-06-11 04:48:06 PM  

chasd00: ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.

it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered


It is outside of Waco, closer to Dallas/Fort Worth area than Austin.
 
2014-06-11 04:49:03 PM  
The $700,000+ home is teetering 75 feet above Lake Whitney

Not a $700,000 home any more...
 
2014-06-11 04:49:13 PM  
Mesa that coming.
 
2014-06-11 04:51:20 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 628x650]


but the gdp of alaska is smaller than the gdp of rhode island.
 
2014-06-11 04:51:57 PM  
an uninspired, cheaply constructed box is not luxury.
 
2014-06-11 04:54:37 PM  

sendtodave: Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]

I don't think I've seen that house with people before.

It's smaller than I thought it was.


Maybe those people are just really big.
 
2014-06-11 04:55:58 PM  

pacified: an uninspired, cheaply constructed box is not luxury.


the foyer has a moon door, your argument is invalid.www.grizzlybomb.com
 
2014-06-11 04:56:14 PM  
I keep hearing this term. What makes a McMansion different from any other mansion?
 
2014-06-11 04:56:34 PM  
Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?
 
2014-06-11 04:57:30 PM  
The whole left side has cracks extending from the foundation diagonally through the fire place. That house is toast.
 
2014-06-11 04:58:02 PM  

Jeng: chasd00: ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.

it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered

It is outside of Waco, closer to Dallas/Fort Worth area than Austin.


my mistake, i saw this story somewhere else and could have sworn it was in Austin.

/didn't know there was much limestone that far North
 
2014-06-11 04:58:20 PM  

bmr68: The whole left side has cracks extending from the foundation diagonally through the fire place. That house is toast.


There should be a pool on what day the house will fall in.

And someone should video it.
 
2014-06-11 05:00:06 PM  

Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?


this is Texas, regulations are a sign of the end of times.
 
2014-06-11 05:00:10 PM  

Jeng: chasd00: ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.

it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered

It is outside of Waco HIllsboro, closer to Dallas/Fort Worth area than Austin.


-FTFY

Maps, how do they work?
 
2014-06-11 05:01:56 PM  

Headso: Smeggy Smurf: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 628x650]

but the gdp of alaska is smaller than the gdp of rhode island.


Alaska's per-capita GDP is the second largest in the nation.
 
2014-06-11 05:02:06 PM  

sendtodave: Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]

I don't think I've seen that house with people before.

It's smaller than I thought it was.


Most of Frankie's stuff is down right claustrophobic.  When you see photos of the spaces and then actually visit them, you have to wonder how the photographer took the picture.  Robie house is tiny inside.
 
2014-06-11 05:02:42 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: I wonder if their insurance policy covers "ground falling away from structure".

Come to think of it, do people who live in sink-hole prone areas have to buy special "structure and lot swallowed by earth" coverage?


Yes,yes we do

/I think I pay an extra $40 a year for it.
 
2014-06-11 05:03:43 PM  
So with the new view the house across the street will get does something like this increase or decrease property value?
 
2014-06-11 05:04:33 PM  

Savage Belief: I keep hearing this term. What makes a McMansion different from any other mansion?


Cheaping out on labour, materials, and little things like consulting a geotechnical engineer, all so you can get more square feet for your buck.
 
2014-06-11 05:04:34 PM  

chasd00: Jeng: chasd00: ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.

it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered

It is outside of Waco, closer to Dallas/Fort Worth area than Austin.

my mistake, i saw this story somewhere else and could have sworn it was in Austin.

/didn't know there was much limestone that far North


??????

Ever heard of a little place called Missouri?


go.owu.edu
 
2014-06-11 05:04:44 PM  
I cannot even measure how much I don't give a shiat about some multi-billionaire losing one of their vacation houses when I can barely afford the increasing property taxes on my cardboard box of a house with a highway in the back yard.
 
2014-06-11 05:05:00 PM  

UtileDysfunktion: I wonder if their insurance policy covers "ground falling away from structure".

Come to think of it, do people who live in sink-hole prone areas have to buy special "structure and lot swallowed by earth" coverage?


Areas of the country that are prone to sink holes (like 35% of the country) require insurers to offer such insurance. It isn't cheap.
 
2014-06-11 05:06:01 PM  

Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?


I am a geologist, and these people are idiots.
 
2014-06-11 05:07:40 PM  

chasd00: Jeng: chasd00: ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.

it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered

It is outside of Waco, closer to Dallas/Fort Worth area than Austin.

my mistake, i saw this story somewhere else and could have sworn it was in Austin.

/didn't know there was much limestone that far North


it pokes up through the muck here and there.
 
2014-06-11 05:09:41 PM  
McMansion = any house bigger than your house, especially if you're a liberal arts major who's unbelievably envious of your peers that are apparently making an order of magnitude more money than you.
 
2014-06-11 05:12:00 PM  

Savage Belief: I keep hearing this term. What makes a McMansion different from any other mansion?


A McMansion is a cookie-cutter, mass-produced relatively large suburban home, usually on a small lot with other homes nearby that are nearly the same except for relatively minor cosmetic differences, such as a front room, or basement vs. half basement, etc.

I live in one ;) It was the best school district with the number of rooms my girlfriend and I needed, and a price we could afford. I'd rather have a bigger yard, but priorities and limitations being what they are, we did what we could.
 
2014-06-11 05:13:12 PM  

Maud Dib: chasd00: Jeng: chasd00: ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.

it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered

It is outside of Waco, closer to Dallas/Fort Worth area than Austin.

my mistake, i saw this story somewhere else and could have sworn it was in Austin.

/didn't know there was much limestone that far North

??????

Ever heard of a little place called Missouri?


[go.owu.edu image 433x288]


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-06-11 05:13:33 PM  

Gneisskate: Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?

I am a geologist, and these people are idiots.


Exactly. Looking at the further out shots, it appears as if the cliff was already pretty well undercut. It was only a matter of time, and the traffic and extra weight on top of the cliff just hastened the process.
 
2014-06-11 05:13:55 PM  
Maud Dib:

??????

Ever heard of a little place called Missouri?


[go.owu.edu image 433x288]


Anything east of Austin and the hill country of Texas is generally gulf coastal clay.  The stuff around a Dallas is some of the worst expansive clays to build on.  It's not until you push east towards Tyler that you get more sandy soils.  Hence the piney woods...
 
2014-06-11 05:15:26 PM  
goofus:

garkola: McMansion = any house bigger than your house, especially if you're a liberal arts major who's unbelievably envious of your peers that are apparently making an order of magnitude more money than you.


gallant:

Pitabred: A McMansion is a cookie-cutter, mass-produced relatively large suburban home, usually on a small lot with other homes nearby that are nearly the same except for relatively minor cosmetic differences, such as a front room, or basement vs. half basement, etc.

 
GBB
2014-06-11 05:16:17 PM  
Update:
kdfw.images.worldnow.com

And, let it go, cause, it's going to be gone soon:

kdfw.images.worldnow.com
 
2014-06-11 05:19:10 PM  
That there is a real CLIF-hanger.

s27.postimg.org
 
2014-06-11 05:19:37 PM  

GBB: Update:
[kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

And, let it go, cause, it's going to be gone soon:

[kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]


Holy CRAP, look at the fault in the second photo! The neighbors need to start packing.
 
2014-06-11 05:19:53 PM  
"Luxury Dream House"?   It is large to be sure; but damn, it looks like a cheap shoddily built turd.    Does not even have any "design" to it.   /pfft.

I hope there is video when that turd finally falls into the toilet.

Hoped it was Canyon Lake before reading TFA.   There are similar dingle berries crusted about the sphincter of Comal County; the douche houses make it so.
 
2014-06-11 05:21:12 PM  
There are at least 8,000 square feet in a mansion. This definition has been determined by United States real estate brokers. This can vary - for instance, in New York, a mansion is expected to be smaller, but not as small as 4,000 square feet, as in TFA.

I'm with subby, it's a McMansion.
 
GBB
2014-06-11 05:22:31 PM  

ruta: GBB: Update:
[kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

And, let it go, cause, it's going to be gone soon:

[kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

Holy CRAP, look at the fault in the second photo! The neighbors need to start packing.


It's not their fault, but it is their problem.
 
GBB
2014-06-11 05:23:06 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: That there is a real CLIF-hanger.

[s27.postimg.org image 598x788]


Trident to the rescue!!
 
2014-06-11 05:25:17 PM  

garkola: McMansion = any house bigger than your house, especially if you're a liberal arts major who's unbelievably envious of your peers that are apparently making an order of magnitude more money than you.


McMansion = Any house built in the latest bubble that meets any two of the following criteria:

It's big just to be big
It's poorly built due to absurdly short construction schedules
It does not fit the lot
It was a champagne budget on a beer design

Professionally I loved them.  The bigger the house the bigger my fee.  Personally and ethically I hate them.  Right-sized houses as personified in what Sarah Susanka has built a career and a following out of is the way to go.
 
2014-06-11 05:26:31 PM  

Rigby-Reardon: So with the new view the house across the street will get does something like this increase or decrease property value?


It's probably for sale now, how 'bout you go check?
 
2014-06-11 05:26:34 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: That there is a real CLIF-hanger.

[s27.postimg.org image 598x788]


yo dawg
 
2014-06-11 05:32:05 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: That there is a real CLIF-hanger.

[s27.postimg.org image 598x788]


Where the fark can you get a pack of M&Ms for 25 cents??
 
2014-06-11 05:32:12 PM  
When that next big chunk falls and sheers that house in half, that's going to make quite a little tsunami.
 
2014-06-11 05:34:18 PM  
Another angle:

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-11 05:37:09 PM  

GBB: Update: [kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

And, let it go, cause, it's going to be gone soon:


It looks like that crack is going to take another huge chunk soon.
 
2014-06-11 05:37:27 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Regulations?  We don't need no stinkin' regulations!


Their lawyers are already filing the "why did you let us build on a cliff??" suit against the city/county.
 
2014-06-11 05:40:47 PM  

Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]


if I ever have a house near a water feature I plan to cantilever it like how Falling Waters was done


but I'll sure as hell make sure the ground ain't gonna subside or erode from under the foundation before it's laid down
 
2014-06-11 05:42:41 PM  
Shakes tiny fist
 
2014-06-11 05:43:10 PM  

Savage Belief: I keep hearing this term. What makes a McMansion different from any other mansion?


tiny lot
no yard
usually in a neighborhood with many other houses of it's kind
 
2014-06-11 05:44:10 PM  

whither_apophis: BunkyBrewman: Regulations?  We don't need no stinkin' regulations!

Their lawyers are already filing the "why did you let us build on a cliff??" suit against the city/county.


Wait until that neighbor files the "your ugly ass home caused all this mess" suit when his front yard crashes away. It looks like the home was build partially on the original overhang.
 
2014-06-11 05:44:23 PM  

Maud Dib: ??????Ever heard of a little place called Missouri?


they're talking about in Texas
 
2014-06-11 05:44:36 PM  

They said I was daft to build on a cliff, but I built it anyway.


i1.ytimg.com


It slid down, went over, and sank into the lake.

 
2014-06-11 05:44:57 PM  

ruta: Another angle:


The house puked!!!
 
2014-06-11 05:45:13 PM  
And this 'Real Murican Texican', who don't listen to no egghead, Yankee geologists from back east, will demand a gov bailout in 4...3...2...
 
2014-06-11 05:45:13 PM  

Artemus_Hackwell: "Luxury Dream House"?   It is large to be sure; but damn, it looks like a cheap shoddily built turd.    Does not even have any "design" to it.   /pfft.

I hope there is video when that turd finally falls into the toilet.

Hoped it was Canyon Lake before reading TFA.   There are similar dingle berries crusted about the sphincter of Comal County; the douche houses make it so.


I lived in one of those for a while, on the North side. One of the worst mistakes I ever made. PEC can blow me, too.
 
2014-06-11 05:46:22 PM  

GBB: Update:
[kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

And, let it go, cause, it's going to be gone soon:

[kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]


and it looks like that crack going right through the house ain't going to help the neighbors much
 
2014-06-11 05:46:26 PM  

unyon: A $700k home is "luxury"?  I'll have to tell my wife that.  Apparently, we live in a 1000sq ft McMansion.


You don't live in a $700k house.  You live in a $100k house on a $600k piece of land.
 
2014-06-11 05:48:06 PM  

unyon: A $700k home is "luxury"?  I'll have to tell my wife that.  Apparently, we live in a 1000sq ft McMansion.


You must live in a shiatty part of the Bay area with an interstate in your back yard.
 
2014-06-11 05:48:17 PM  
 
2014-06-11 05:49:31 PM  

Geotpf: You don't live in a $700k house.  You live in a $100k house on a $600k piece of land.


and in the right spot that's a few thousand square foot house on a plot measured in acres


in the wrong spot that gets you something the size of an old bungalow on a very small lot


whatever it is, it's yours
 
2014-06-11 05:49:40 PM  

whither_apophis: BunkyBrewman: Regulations?  We don't need no stinkin' regulations!

Their lawyers are already filing the "why did you let us build on a cliff??" suit against the city/county.


It's the middle of nowhere. The no regulations thing is probably accurate. The builder/developer, however... well, that might not be a good day in court for them.

I saw a different article that said the owners will be responsible for cleanup. Ouch.
 
2014-06-11 05:50:46 PM  

severedtoe: Most of Frankie's stuff is down right claustrophobic.  When you see photos of the spaces and then actually visit them, you have to wonder how the photographer took the picture.  Robie house is tiny inside.


They were small, yes. headroom especially. He always wanted his houses to read horizontally, so they were proportionally long and short.

But also remember, this was the turn of the century when many of his works were first designed. People didn't build 12' ceilings and double-height foyers like todays McMansions just because they could, and people didnt have as much "stuff" as we do now, so most furniture/storage/etc was built-in. He wasn't exactly anticipating 60" plasma screens to be hung in every room of the house with a Theater Room/Man Cave in the basement.

You have to keep in mind many people still didnt have indoor plumbing or indoor restrooms at this time. Its only small and simple by today's ballooned standards (chef-grade kitchens, double-sink master baths, or even master baths at all).

Ive been to probably 20 of his works, and i would gladly live in any one of them.
 
2014-06-11 05:51:07 PM  

loonatic112358: Geotpf: You don't live in a $700k house.  You live in a $100k house on a $600k piece of land.

and in the right spot that's a few thousand square foot house on a plot measured in acres


in the wrong spot that gets you something the size of an old bungalow on a very small lot


whatever it is, it's yours


Unless you don't pay your rent to the county. Then they'll sell it out from under you on the courthouse steps. But sure, it's "yours".
 
2014-06-11 05:54:59 PM  
This was the scene from the front porch a few years ago!


cinetropolis.net
 
2014-06-11 05:55:37 PM  

Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]


The rooms are disappointingly small, and everyone gets upset when you want to break down a wall here and there.
 
2014-06-11 05:57:09 PM  

markie_farkie: This was the scene from the front porch a few years ago!

[cinetropolis.net image 600x252]


That was back when you could still own "the good stuff".

/ok so you can still own a 40mm Bofors
//but back then you could still AFFORD the good stuff
 
2014-06-11 05:58:08 PM  
Looks like that neighbor will soon have a lot less yard to take care off.
 
2014-06-11 05:58:56 PM  
Lol. Free golf clubs and ipad mini when you preview their community:  http://www.whitebluffresort.com/They may need to up that offer.
 
2014-06-11 05:59:43 PM  
My money's on that entire chunk of limestone hanging out over the water breaking completely loose, taking the house and a good chunk of the neighbor's yard with it in the next 24 hours.

I just hope it's daylight when it happens, because that will be spectacular!
 
2014-06-11 06:00:10 PM  
You just have to chalk it up to experience.
 
2014-06-11 06:01:28 PM  

mesmer242: Lol. Free golf clubs and ipad mini when you preview their community:  http://www.whitebluffresort.com/


I played that course about 15 years ago or so... Friend of a friend knew someone who just bought there.. Nice place, but I'd recommend building further back from the shore next time..
 
2014-06-11 06:01:42 PM  

GBB: Update:
And, let it go, cause, it's going to be gone soon:

img.fark.net
I bet the neighbors are happy about this... sorta. I can hear it now...

"Hey Martha, come over here. Does that asshole's house look like it's moving? It is! Martha look!
Serves him right for building there. I tried to stop them, didn't I Martha?"
 
2014-06-11 06:02:33 PM  
From the close-ups of the now exposed interior, it looks like the owners had some idea this was going to happen and got out. It appears empty.
 
2014-06-11 06:04:28 PM  

ruta: From the close-ups of the now exposed interior, it looks like the owners had some idea this was going to happen and got out. It appears empty.


It was condemned in 2012 but they stayed there up until a few weeks ago, according to some blurb I saw. I'm sure they took out everything of value once the back porch started getting its new lovely view.
 
2014-06-11 06:04:33 PM  

markie_farkie: This was the scene from the front porch a few years ago!


[cinetropolis.net image 600x252]


I love the scene where they're dancing around in the kitchen, then he spill a bunch of debris in the pancake batter, then just keeps right on going.
 
2014-06-11 06:05:48 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: McMansion (actual definition): A large, cheaply built home crammed into a small (1/4 acre or less) lot next to similar homes.


Yes, I see the pictures. This looks to be exactly that.
 
2014-06-11 06:09:03 PM  
Chopper's heading back to re-fuel it appears.. Hopefully the whole mess doesn't fall in the water while they're away!
 
2014-06-11 06:13:19 PM  

mesmer242: whither_apophis: BunkyBrewman: Regulations?  We don't need no stinkin' regulations!

Their lawyers are already filing the "why did you let us build on a cliff??" suit against the city/county.

It's the middle of nowhere. The no regulations thing is probably accurate. The builder/developer, however... well, that might not be a good day in court for them.

I saw a different article that said the owners will be responsible for cleanup. Ouch.


Right in the wallet.  God might not be making any more land but apparently he's taking some away.
 
2014-06-11 06:16:46 PM  
Nice lake, been fishin' there many a time. Good crappie lake in the spring.  One less over priced Golf course house won't matter in the grand scheme of things.
 
2014-06-11 06:21:44 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: McMansion (actual definition): A large, cheaply built home crammed into a small (1/4 acre or less) lot next to similar homes.

McMansion (as used here): Any home that smitty is likely paid to clean or deliver pizza to.

/Get out of your mom's basement, smitty


McMansion: Tasteless, quickly-built monument to an inferiority complex in which P. Merdeux resides.
 
2014-06-11 06:27:48 PM  

gunther_bumpass: Petit_Merdeux: McMansion (actual definition): A large, cheaply built home crammed into a small (1/4 acre or less) lot next to similar homes.

McMansion (as used here): Any home that smitty is likely paid to clean or deliver pizza to.

/Get out of your mom's basement, smitty

McMansion: Tasteless, quickly-built monument to an inferiority complex in which P. Merdeux resides.


How does one reside inside an inferiority complex? That doesn't seem possible.
 
2014-06-11 06:30:52 PM  
Our subdivision was built out in the mid-90s just before the McMansion Expansion really took off in Texas.  No two houses look the same, and every lot is 2/3 of an acre.  Right across the road is a newer (2000-2005) subdivision, and damned if I can tell one house from the next, even in broad daylight.  Anyway, here's the humble abode!

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-11 06:31:41 PM  

whither_apophis: Day_Old_Dutchie: That there is a real CLIF-hanger.

[s27.postimg.org image 598x788]

Where the fark can you get a pack of M&Ms for 25 cents??


Probably at someone's office. We don't have candy here but we have a 25-cent Coke machine.
 
2014-06-11 06:32:40 PM  

mesmer242: Lol. Free golf clubs and ipad mini when you preview their community:  http://www.whitebluffresort.com/They may need to up that offer.


I toured that property back in 1993 just to get the free golf clubs!  Crappy Tour Model III's.
 
2014-06-11 06:33:10 PM  

markie_farkie: LIVE VIDEO FEED HERE!!!!


Sadly, it's currently unavailable. :*(
 
2014-06-11 06:34:22 PM  

Vector R: Sadly, it's currently unavailable. :*(


Yeah I think the chopper went off to re-fuel or something.. The last 2 minutes of feed were of the underbelly and microwave relay, and the ground whizzing by before they killed it.
 
2014-06-11 07:07:14 PM  

Isitoveryet: Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?

this is Texas, regulations are a sign of the end of times.


Housing placement is decided on the county level and even then in the subdivision.  The State has regulations about building code, etc, not where some schlub wants to put his $800k mansion.
 
2014-06-11 07:09:05 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]

The rooms are disappointingly small, and everyone gets upset when you want to break down a wall here and there.


Owners of his homes would complain because he would come back to visit them later, and put their furniture back where he designed it to be. "That doesn't go there. It goes right... here!"
 
2014-06-11 07:10:27 PM  

pjbreeze: When that next big chunk falls and sheers that house in half, that's going to make quite a little tsunami.


Whitney is pretty far below normal lake levels.  So it'll be a ripple.
 
2014-06-11 07:25:51 PM  

unyon: A $700k home is "luxury"?  I'll have to tell my wife that.  Apparently, we live in a 1000sq ft McMansion.


Welcome to Fark. McMansion means any house an idiot commenter can't afford. There are $125K McMansions out there according to a number of posters here.
 
2014-06-11 07:27:24 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: That there is a real CLIF-hanger.

[s27.postimg.org image 598x788]


kick it
 
2014-06-11 07:28:42 PM  
img.fark.net
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-11 07:33:36 PM  

whither_apophis: M&Ms


That's probably .25 Canadian
 
2014-06-11 07:37:22 PM  
When will they learn that gravity wont be denied . It has been that way for a long time
 
2014-06-11 07:39:31 PM  

Chach: $125K


That'll buy you a 5000 sq ft actual handcrafted 1900s mansion.........


In Detroit.
 
2014-06-11 07:41:10 PM  

Chach: unyon: A $700k home is "luxury"?  I'll have to tell my wife that.  Apparently, we live in a 1000sq ft McMansion.

Welcome to Fark. McMansion means any house an idiot commenter can't afford. There are $125K McMansions out there according to a number of posters here.



Welcome to Fark - the last stop on the internet for people desperate to impress strangers with their real or imagined wealth.
 
2014-06-11 07:51:04 PM  
FTA: A home that used to be worth more than $700,000 is dangling from a bluff high above Lake Whitney in Texas.

FTFM
 
2014-06-11 07:57:09 PM  

Gneisskate: Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?

I am a geologist, and these people are idiots.


Seconded, on both counts.

/How's your liver holding up?
 
2014-06-11 08:12:23 PM  

Dinodork: Gneisskate: Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?

I am a geologist, and these people are idiots.

Seconded, on both counts.

/How's your liver holding up?


Heh.  Liver is fine, it's everything else that's giving out on me.  My study area is on the Buffalo River, so it looks a whole lot like these pictures.  Also, the jointing there should have been stunningly obvious to anyone, even these people.

/drink beer, it helps you think like the rocks
 
2014-06-11 08:14:56 PM  
Charliechaplingoldrush.jpg
 
2014-06-11 08:23:17 PM  

Gneisskate: Dinodork: Gneisskate: Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?

I am a geologist, and these people are idiots.

Seconded, on both counts.

/How's your liver holding up?

Heh.  Liver is fine, it's everything else that's giving out on me.  My study area is on the Buffalo River, so it looks a whole lot like these pictures.  Also, the jointing there should have been stunningly obvious to anyone, even these people.

/drink beer, it helps you think like the rocks


Saw a chunk of chalk come off a creek cut in the Niobrara a few years back. Much smaller but it still made a hell of a noise. They need a cameraman on a rowboat down below to film it when it finally rips loose.
 
2014-06-11 08:24:16 PM  
Somebody is going to end up with a much better lake view.
 
2014-06-11 08:49:53 PM  

BluVeinThrobber: whither_apophis: M&Ms

That's probably .25 Canadian


If it was in Canada it'd be full of Wunderbars!

/you Canadian farkers know what i'm talkin about
 
2014-06-11 08:50:41 PM  
Frank Lloyd Wright is style over substance. Houses built to look at and not live in. Uncomfortable for anyone over 5 feet 4 inches tall. No matter they were designed a long time ago, plenty of old houses had decent sized rooms and something more than 7 foot tall ceilings.
 
2014-06-11 09:02:57 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 628x650]


Alaska's Slutty Little Sister.

let's keep it true.
 
2014-06-11 09:03:48 PM  
I am reminded of an aunt, who proclaimed some years ago, proudly, that she lived in the second-oldest house in her town.

"It was built in 1868"

"and did you.."

"Gutted it. Opened it up, added an extension in the back, fully modernized it on the inside."

 WHY THE fark DID YOU BUY AN OLD HOUSE?

Tasteless, man.. tasteless.
 
2014-06-11 09:04:15 PM  
Iown at 3500sq ft house now. I never thought of it in "McMansion" terms. Just a big box. Does have separate upstairs/ downstairs AC units/ furnaces. Does have 6" thick walls, very good at keeping the heat/ cold at bay. When I first bought it, took me a while to get used to the size of it, seeing the downstairs as huge, then realizing there's another floor to it. Got it on the tail end of all the foreclosures going on, paid my 20% down. Only got a 15 year note, have 10 years left. Nice quiet neighborhood. A fair sight bigger that my last house in Texas, was 950 sq ft. Payments twice as much, house almost four times bigger. 3 car garage, room for another 6 cars in the driveway. The wife and I only have 2 cars, and a motorcycle.
 
2014-06-11 09:12:56 PM  
Not to worry. Anyone who can afford that kind of house, has found a way to get the tax payers to pay for it.
 
2014-06-11 09:20:32 PM  

sendtodave: Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]

I don't think I've seen that house with people before.

It's smaller than I thought it was.


You should see the toilets.

/a squatting position was apparently considered very healthful at the time of construction
 
2014-06-11 09:32:32 PM  

loonatic112358: Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]

if I ever have a house near a water feature I plan to cantilever it like how Falling Waters was done


but I'll sure as hell make sure the ground ain't gonna subside or erode from under the foundation before it's laid down


Last time I was at Fallingwater, they had an ugly mess of steel braces semi-permanently installed under the sagging cantilevers. I don't know if they've fixed it but it was going to take some serious work.

Not saying you can't do it, and I love FLW, but that house could be built way better today than it was then. Probably could have been built better then too.
 
2014-06-11 09:32:49 PM  

Dinodork: Gneisskate: Dinodork: Gneisskate: Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?

I am a geologist, and these people are idiots.

Seconded, on both counts.

/How's your liver holding up?

Heh.  Liver is fine, it's everything else that's giving out on me.  My study area is on the Buffalo River, so it looks a whole lot like these pictures.  Also, the jointing there should have been stunningly obvious to anyone, even these people.

/drink beer, it helps you think like the rocks

Saw a chunk of chalk come off a creek cut in the Niobrara a few years back. Much smaller but it still made a hell of a noise. They need a cameraman on a rowboat down below to film it when it finally rips loose.


Is that the kind of thing that will sit there for months or years before it finally comes off, or does that look like an "any moment now" kind of fault?
 
2014-06-11 09:37:13 PM  

Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.


---
great house... except for that $11.5 million dollar repair bill (and that was in 2002 dollars)

http://old.post-gazette.com/lifestyle/20011208lowry1208fnp3.asp

/ Wright was too vain to let others help him design mundane features like structural engineering components and functional septic/sewer systems
 
2014-06-11 09:40:37 PM  

Rent Party: Dinodork: Gneisskate: Dinodork: Gneisskate: Dog Welder: Wow. What a colossally stupid place to build a house. I'm no geologist but it appears that entire cliff is limestone. What did they think would happen?

I am a geologist, and these people are idiots.

Seconded, on both counts.

/How's your liver holding up?

Heh.  Liver is fine, it's everything else that's giving out on me.  My study area is on the Buffalo River, so it looks a whole lot like these pictures.  Also, the jointing there should have been stunningly obvious to anyone, even these people.

/drink beer, it helps you think like the rocks

Saw a chunk of chalk come off a creek cut in the Niobrara a few years back. Much smaller but it still made a hell of a noise. They need a cameraman on a rowboat down below to film it when it finally rips loose.

Is that the kind of thing that will sit there for months or years before it finally comes off, or does that look like an "any moment now" kind of fault?


It's impossible for me to tell just from the photos, but the answer could really be 'either'.  In geologic terms, the answer would be 'soon' and 'never build on top of this sort of thing'.
 
2014-06-11 09:59:09 PM  

Jixa: I cannot even measure how much I don't give a shiat about some multi-billionaire losing one of their vacation houses when I can barely afford the increasing property taxes on my cardboard box of a house with a highway in the back yard.


Try not living in a shiat box, you'll be happier.
 
2014-06-11 10:04:47 PM  

James!: I've been cliff diving in Lake Whitney.  That mansion needs to nut up and jump.  It's fun.


Standing on the edge and looking isn't going to help. Go or get out of the way, there's a whole neighborhood waiting.
 
2014-06-11 10:08:53 PM  
www.fototime.com

What's the big deal?
 
2014-06-11 10:43:28 PM  
$700K will buy a couple of one-bedroom condos around here. (DC)

When I lived just outside NYC it would kill me to go to TX and see houses that I could have bought with 2 years' rent.

So I'm getting a kick, etc.
 
2014-06-11 10:46:01 PM  

markie_farkie: Our subdivision was built out in the mid-90s just before the McMansion Expansion really took off in Texas.  No two houses look the same, and every lot is 2/3 of an acre.  Right across the road is a newer (2000-2005) subdivision, and damned if I can tell one house from the next, even in broad daylight.  Anyway, here's the humble abode!

[img.fark.net image 765x1024]


You posted that on Fark?

Copper pipes to be stolen in 5... 4... 3...

/hopefully kidding
 
2014-06-11 11:01:42 PM  
"However, we can save 700 lira and two months by not taking soil tests!"

/obscure?
 
2014-06-11 11:21:06 PM  
I'll give ya $300 for the lot, you seem like a smart guy, did you by chance inherit that money you spent on this place?
 
2014-06-11 11:22:23 PM  

LemSkroob: severedtoe: Most of Frankie's stuff is down right claustrophobic.  When you see photos of the spaces and then actually visit them, you have to wonder how the photographer took the picture.  Robie house is tiny inside.

They were small, yes. headroom especially. He always wanted his houses to read horizontally, so they were proportionally long and short.

But also remember, this was the turn of the century when many of his works were first designed. People didn't build 12' ceilings and double-height foyers like todays McMansions just because they could, and people didnt have as much "stuff" as we do now, so most furniture/storage/etc was built-in. He wasn't exactly anticipating 60" plasma screens to be hung in every room of the house with a Theater Room/Man Cave in the basement.

You have to keep in mind many people still didnt have indoor plumbing or indoor restrooms at this time. Its only small and simple by today's ballooned standards (chef-grade kitchens, double-sink master baths, or even master baths at all).

Ive been to probably 20 of his works, and i would gladly live in any one of them.


The Price Tower is a trip - the bar and restaurant there occupy multiple floors since there just flat out isn't enough space to actually house people for the restaurant.
 
2014-06-11 11:38:49 PM  
So, who is going to have to pay to clean that mess up? Or, since Texas, will they just let that pile stay?
 
2014-06-11 11:41:36 PM  

nanim: Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.

---
great house... except for that $11.5 million dollar repair bill (and that was in 2002 dollars)

http://old.post-gazette.com/lifestyle/20011208lowry1208fnp3.asp

/ Wright was too vain to let others help him design mundane features like structural engineering components and functional septic/sewer systems


ENGINEER > architect
 
2014-06-11 11:43:26 PM  
farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2014-06-11 11:52:28 PM  

sxacho: loonatic112358: Snarfangel: I love Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x962]

if I ever have a house near a water feature I plan to cantilever it like how Falling Waters was done


but I'll sure as hell make sure the ground ain't gonna subside or erode from under the foundation before it's laid down

Last time I was at Fallingwater, they had an ugly mess of steel braces semi-permanently installed under the sagging cantilevers. I don't know if they've fixed it but it was going to take some serious work.

Not saying you can't do it, and I love FLW, but that house could be built way better today than it was then. Probably could have been built better then too.


The house was specifically built to collapse/return to nature in something like 75 years.

And that's exactly what it's trying to do. I know they were planning on post tensioning the cantilevers, but I don't know if it happened yet.
 
2014-06-12 12:05:54 AM  

dr_blasto: [farm1.staticflickr.com image 850x566]


Paging Mr. Kaplan.

/they pour a whole bottle of bourbon into you too??
 
2014-06-12 12:19:18 AM  

Cpl.D: Copper pipes to be stolen in 5... 4... 3...

/hopefully kidding


JOKE'S ON THE THIEVES, we installed plutonium-lined pipes right after moving in!!

Good thing we only drink beer and wine!
 
2014-06-12 12:42:10 AM  

markie_farkie: Cpl.D: Copper pipes to be stolen in 5... 4... 3...

/hopefully kidding

JOKE'S ON THE THIEVES, we installed plutonium-lined pipes right after moving in!!

Good thing we only drink beer and wine!


markie_farkie: Cpl.D: Copper pipes to be stolen in 5... 4... 3...

/hopefully kidding

JOKE'S ON THE THIEVES, we installed plutonium-lined pipes right after moving in!!

Good thing we only drink beer and wine!


What? you think they take that pipe home and install it?  The thieves get a shiat load more than they thought they would, because you filled them with a non ferrous metal (magnet test) that is heavy as fark.  Jokes on the hammer mill/smelter employees that all die around same time biatching about everything tasting like aluminum foil.

Don't be a dick, use lead.
 
2014-06-12 12:42:22 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: That there is a real CLIF-hanger.


I imagined George Costanza yelling 'Jump!'
 
2014-06-12 06:09:58 AM  
They weren't expecting Jesus to keep it on that cliff face?
 
2014-06-12 07:36:00 AM  
Are they sure that it wasn't vandalism?

cdn.smosh.com
 
2014-06-12 07:53:01 AM  

Ex-Texan: Iown at 3500sq ft house now. I never thought of it in "McMansion" terms. Just a big box. Does have separate upstairs/ downstairs AC units/ furnaces. Does have 6" thick walls, very good at keeping the heat/ cold at bay. When I first bought it, took me a while to get used to the size of it, seeing the downstairs as huge, then realizing there's another floor to it. Got it on the tail end of all the foreclosures going on, paid my 20% down. Only got a 15 year note, have 10 years left. Nice quiet neighborhood. A fair sight bigger that my last house in Texas, was 950 sq ft. Payments twice as much, house almost four times bigger. 3 car garage, room for another 6 cars in the driveway. The wife and I only have 2 cars, and a motorcycle.


I have about 3500sqft, but it's old as fark. No aircon. Central heat sucked so bad at actually delivering heat I actually ripped it out (the 'ducts' were 'lets just point the air at this gap between studs and assume that'll work!'). Need to reroof it. Might unpitch the roof some and get MOAR SQUARE FEET.

I also have what the property assessor refers to as an 8 car garage (IT HAS TWO DOORS! I COULD MAYBE WEDGE 3 IN THERE IF I TRIED!) and a a whopping 45-car driveway.
 
2014-06-12 08:12:50 AM  

unyon: A $700k home is "luxury"?  I'll have to tell my wife that.  Apparently, we live in a 1000sq ft McMansion.


where do you live?
in the dfw area, $700k is a rather expensive home
our 3 bed/2 bath 2 car garage brick house, approx 1200 sq ft north of ft worth was $131,900 brand new 2 years ago
in an expensive housing market, the same house would be 3 times as much
 
2014-06-12 08:33:46 AM  

ruta: From the close-ups of the now exposed interior, it looks like the owners had some idea this was going to happen and got out. It appears empty.


it was condemned a year or more ago, and the owners cleared everything out. there are no working utilities, no furniture, etc
 
2014-06-12 09:25:23 AM  

chasd00: ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.

it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered


Lake Whitney is about 2 - 2.5 hours away from Austin. But thanks for trying.
 
2014-06-12 09:36:15 AM  

ColTomParker: chasd00: ruta: A glance at Google shows several more of these places can expect the same fate before too long.

Maybe if they'd named the subdivision White Coastal Erosion Landform Resort, folks might have thought a bit harder about building homes so close to it.

it's in Austin, i don't think it would have mattered

Lake Whitney is about 2 - 2.5 hours away from Austin. But thanks for trying.


Refresh? How does it work?
 
2014-06-12 09:41:18 AM  
static.giantbomb.comwww.hardcoregaming101.net

Is there a mage slicing off chunks so everything else can stay floating?

/obscure?
 
2014-06-12 09:42:41 AM  
I also remember some old NES game, where you could pound on stakes in the ground to create cracks, and if the cracks met, that chunk of island would fall into the sea.
 
2014-06-12 09:56:51 AM  

GBB: Update:
[kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]

And, let it go, cause, it's going to be gone soon:

[kdfw.images.worldnow.com image 640x360]


someone should ps wile e coyote onto the 2nd photo
 
2014-06-12 10:13:02 AM  

sxacho: Not saying you can't do it, and I love FLW, but that house could be built way better today than it was then. Probably could have been built better then too.


FLW had a bad habit of thinking he was structural engineer


While I have passed a statics class, if I ever do anything like that I'll take advice from someone who has a PE stamp in the state
 
2014-06-12 10:44:43 AM  

reubendaley: [www.fototime.com image 850x478]

What's the big deal?


I about shiat when I noticed the girl/woman on the swing at the extreme right of the picture. I see no real lateral bracing going on, and it would be relatively easy to just topple that entire structure sideways. That's the kind of house you can have if you live where there's no building codes!
 
2014-06-12 11:06:58 AM  

Fissile: And this 'Real Murican Texican', who don't listen to no egghead, Yankee geologists from back east, will demand a gov bailout in 4...3...2...


I do love this newly popular idiot identifier. Lets you know who the slack-jawed, drooling idiots are in a hurry.
 
2014-06-12 11:18:18 AM  
Dinodork:Saw a chunk of chalk come off a creek cut in the Niobrara a few years back. Much smaller but it still made a hell of a noise. They need a cameraman on a rowboat down below to film it when it finally rips loose.

And a camera following what happens to the rowboat when it has to deal with all the water movement that will happen when the lake suddenly gets smaller due to being filled by rock the size of several houses.
 
2014-06-12 12:08:09 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: [img.fark.net image 640x360]
[img.fark.net image 240x210]


interactive.wxxi.org
 
2014-06-12 01:57:41 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: reubendaley: [www.fototime.com image 850x478]

What's the big deal?

I about shiat when I noticed the girl/woman on the swing at the extreme right of the picture. I see no real lateral bracing going on, and it would be relatively easy to just topple that entire structure sideways. That's the kind of house you can have if you live where there's no building codes!


Movie set and (condemned) home of the character Aimee Thanatogenos in the movie The Loved One. Great cast, great story line, great satire, worth a watch if you can find it.
 
2014-06-12 02:03:01 PM  

reubendaley: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: reubendaley: [www.fototime.com image 850x478]

What's the big deal?

I about shiat when I noticed the girl/woman on the swing at the extreme right of the picture. I see no real lateral bracing going on, and it would be relatively easy to just topple that entire structure sideways. That's the kind of house you can have if you live where there's no building codes!

Movie set and (condemned) home of the character Aimee Thanatogenos in the movie The Loved One. Great cast, great story line, great satire, worth a watch if you can find it.


Ahhh... Thanks for the info. I'll look into finding that movie. :)
 
2014-06-12 03:05:52 PM  

Savage Belief: I keep hearing this term. What makes a McMansion different from any other mansion?


Style out of place with the rest of the houses in the neighborhood
Overly large for the lot
Fake roman columns or other gaudy crap
Cheaply made
Quickly constructed
Way overpriced
Bad architecture carries over to the interior, where maximizing the amount of space overrides solid design principles
Granite countertops and stainless steel appliances

That sort of crap.
 
2014-06-12 11:36:55 PM  
Kill it with fire.
Really.
 
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