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(Denver Post)   Denver Post opinion editor weighs in on Maureen Dowd's marijuana misadventures. Short version: She's an idiot   (denverpost.com) divider line 131
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2014-06-11 04:22:11 PM

GoodDoctorB: mama2tnt: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The media is having such a hard time finding problems with legal MJ it's hysterical.  There's a fortune riding on keeping it illegal and all those folks are freaking right the fark out.

QFT.

$42 Billion spent annually fighting for marijuana prohibition, and your argument is.... "shut up."

Academic.


Huh?
/should've smoked before coming on here just to be as thick as you, I guess.
 
2014-06-11 04:25:15 PM

GoodDoctorB: mama2tnt: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The media is having such a hard time finding problems with legal MJ it's hysterical.  There's a fortune riding on keeping it illegal and all those folks are freaking right the fark out.

QFT.

$42 Billion spent annually fighting for marijuana prohibition, and your argument is.... "shut up."

Academic.


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=QFT
 
2014-06-11 04:48:30 PM

mama2tnt: GoodDoctorB: mama2tnt: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The media is having such a hard time finding problems with legal MJ it's hysterical.  There's a fortune riding on keeping it illegal and all those folks are freaking right the fark out.

QFT.

$42 Billion spent annually fighting for marijuana prohibition, and your argument is.... "shut up."

Academic.

Huh?
/should've smoked before coming on here just to be as thick as you, I guess.


Goddammitsomuch.  When did QFT stop meaning "quit farking talking"?  Is that a regional thing around here?

Ugh, doesn't matter.  My fault, sorry.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-11 04:52:03 PM
Uptight people like to make sure they don't enjoy things. I have a bit of this tendency myself that I have to watch out for.

She subconsciously chose to make herself miserable to validate her own preconceptions. She had advice she didn't follow, and she chose edibles over taking a puff (still the best way, IMHO), and so she ruined it for herself.
 
2014-06-11 05:03:02 PM
I used to just skip frames real bad, so it was kind of hard to position a glass under the faucet in order to fill it up for a drink of water.

today's weed really messes you up. it's too powerful. as kids we used to quest for kb. now i have to search high and low for shwag.

no one has shwag anymore.
 
2014-06-11 05:05:47 PM
Why would you make a candy bar that was more than 1 serving any damn way. At least divide it into doses before you package it. FFS you don't eat the whole damn pan of brownies or cookies but candy bars? Fark yes you would normally eat the whole damn thing and they should expect that.
 
2014-06-11 05:18:26 PM
Edibles are weird.  They build up a person's tolerance ridiculously fast.  They say 10mg is one dose, but even that is a bit much for a total noob.  But for someone who regularly does edibles, 10mg has almost no effect.  There's good reason for huge differences in the strength of edibles.  That's also the point of the labeling.  You'd have to be a complete idiot to ingest 10 doses of anything psychoactive unless you *really* know what you're doing.
 
2014-06-11 05:24:13 PM

mongbiohazard: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: LazyMedia: bingethinker: rev. dave: bingethinker: Hallucinations? Is she sure that wasn't the pot reacting with some medication she's on?

Yes, it can happen if the weed is way too strong.  In early 2001 I went to Amsterdam and had some of their good stuff, it was mostly auditory hallucinations and wavy visuals.  And I had a tolerance back them too.  I imagine the stuff in Colorado now is of equivalent strength and quality or better.

They call that being Amsterdamaged.

My brother was a big pothead when he was a teenager, and he described hallucinations after getting really high on hash. Apparently, he had a conversation with a little man who was sitting in the ceiling.

The first time I ever got high, I knew I was stoned when my friend went 2 dimensional.  Just completely flat, like he was painted on a background.  That was cool.

Hah! I never heard anyone else describe that, but something similar happened to me once upon a time.

I was about 17, and moving away, so a friend of mine and me sat down determined to smoke our way through a quarter together in one sitting. We did it, and then I grabbed my skateboard to head home. I looked up the street and everything looked 2D - like the cars were cardboard cutouts. It was a little alarming at first, and it made skateboarding home a little challenging, but it was pretty cool once I got over the shock. Never had that happen to me since.


I think that's not unusual. Stoners I know say that driving when really high is an issue, not with coordination the way alcohol is (and the dilated time-sense you get from being high supposedly speeds up your reactions), but with depth perception. Plus being convinced that every cop in the universe is looking at you.
 
2014-06-11 05:25:13 PM

rev. dave: bingethinker: Hallucinations? Is she sure that wasn't the pot reacting with some medication she's on?

Yes, it can happen if the weed is way too strong.  In early 2001 I went to Amsterdam and had some of their good stuff, it was mostly auditory hallucinations and wavy visuals.  And I had a tolerance back them too.  I imagine the stuff in Colorado now is of equivalent strength and quality or better.


Happened to my girlfriend... she used to clear a bong way back when she was young, and decided to do it again at a friend's house. She didn't respect how strong the new stuff was, she was not terribly happy for an hour or two after that, world was spinning, she couldn't carry on a conversation, etc.

Respect this modern stuff... it's not your mama's Mexican ditch weed.
 
2014-06-11 05:25:17 PM

adamatari: Uptight people like to make sure they don't enjoy things. I have a bit of this tendency myself that I have to watch out for.

She subconsciously chose to make herself miserable to validate her own preconceptions. She had advice she didn't follow, and she chose edibles over taking a puff (still the best way, IMHO), and so she ruined it for herself.


One puff of a marijuana joint, or "reefer", and you get lung cancer. Science. Fact.
 
2014-06-11 05:35:54 PM

DubtodaIll: ReverendJynxed: DubtodaIll: DubtodaIll: What I don't get is how hallucinations are ever tied to marijuana or THC.  It does not make you hallucinate.  It can put your imagination into overdrive, but you do not hallucinate like you do on real hallucinogens like lsd or mushrooms.

ftfm

Perhaps the visual aura some people experience are referred to as a hallucination because they don't know the difference? Some people get spots, some wavy lines, etc. like when people stand up too fast. When you don't know what it is and it isn't normal you may be forgiven for thinking it is a hallucination.

I've had weed that made my vision super-clear, running 48FPS, and bestowing a "3d" effect in my normal 3d land. Kind of fits for a hallucination since none of these things actually happened. No one sped up the film, no one shoved me into a 2d realm to add 3d, no one did lasik in the forest.

A hallucination doesn't have to be purple unicorns or walls trying to eat you.

It can certainly heighten your senses and that can certainly be confusing to a novice.  From what I gathered in the article she committed the worst first-timer mistake in eating more after her first bites because she didn't feel anything fast enough.  I'm sure it was a substantial shock to her system.  However, hallucinations are more than just wavy lines or augmented senses, it's seeing things that actually aren't there.  Also, it is not something you can shake off after standing up too quickly.  When you go on a trip, you're on the ride for the duration and you cannot turn it off (not that you would really want to).  While I've never experienced a hallucination where I perceived new physical objects such as gremlins or spiders or whatever else, my experiences with hallucination is that your perception becomes animated and you can almost perceive the energy, for lack of a better word, of each object to which you devote your attention.  You can see new things within other objects or think that they are not what they ...


The wavy lines and augmented senses aren't really there, ergo, they are hallucinations. They can be smells, sounds, odd sights, but they don't have to be full-cloth "things" of any sort. There are many different levels and incarnations, but experiencing anything that's not actually there is by definition hallucination.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Hallucinations
 
2014-06-11 05:45:20 PM

Pitabred: DubtodaIll: ReverendJynxed: DubtodaIll: DubtodaIll: What I don't get is how hallucinations are ever tied to marijuana or THC.  It does not make you hallucinate.  It can put your imagination into overdrive, but you do not hallucinate like you do on real hallucinogens like lsd or mushrooms.


Pot and hash are both classed as hallucinogens, just as mild ones. They're also considered stimulants AND depressants. THC is weird.
 
2014-06-11 05:51:00 PM
That's the way everyone does drugs, right?  If I get a pill I just continue to take them until I feel something.
 
2014-06-11 05:55:05 PM

LeroyBourne: [upload.wikimedia.org image 333x500]
I read a book about a girl who od's on weed, and she goes to hell, so you know shiat is dangerous.


Awesome book!
 
2014-06-11 06:03:06 PM
I agree with the Denver Post.

She didn't listen despite two separate 45 minute conversations about edibles, and the worst thing she suffered was being uncomfortable for a few hours. She could have written an informative piece, but as she chose not to listen to the information she asked for and was given, what she ended up writing was 2014's version of Reefer Madness.

And it was just as stupid as the original.
 
2014-06-11 06:08:22 PM
DOWD: "I'm not familiar with pot edibles and I have no patience for common sense or instruction. I should eat a lot."
(REEL MISSING)
DOWD: "I'm a victim of edibles!"
 
2014-06-11 06:26:17 PM
GoodDoctorB: coming to the well on the 21st, neighbor?

QFT = "Quoted for Truth," if I have it right. (But I'm old, so consider the source, sweetie....)
 
2014-06-11 06:49:08 PM
When I buy a bottle of whiskey, I feel I must drink the whole thing because there's nothing on the label to tell me otherwise.
 
2014-06-11 07:01:20 PM

free_xenu: When I buy a bottle of whiskey, I feel I must drink the whole thing because there's nothing on the label to tell me otherwise.


When you buy a candy bar, do you read the label about the serving size? Hell no, you farking pothead, you snarf the whole thing. They're putting uncomfortable amounts of THC in CHOCOLATE BARS, for FFS. That's like, entrapment or something.
 
2014-06-11 07:25:10 PM

LazyMedia: Pitabred: DubtodaIll: ReverendJynxed: DubtodaIll: DubtodaIll: What I don't get is how hallucinations are ever tied to marijuana or THC.  It does not make you hallucinate.  It can put your imagination into overdrive, but you do not hallucinate like you do on real hallucinogens like lsd or mushrooms.

Pot and hash are both classed as hallucinogens, just as mild ones. They're also considered stimulants AND depressants. THC is weird.


Nicotine can also either make you feel slightly high, or really relaxed. Depends on the dose and speed of uptake.
 
2014-06-11 07:29:55 PM
I got real high after not imbibing for a while once, and turned on the tv.  The D Day beach scene from Saving Private Ryan was just starting.  I got so into it, it freaked me out and I was real jittery for a few hours after that.  I was unable to play golf, I was so rattled.

This is a true story.
 
2014-06-11 09:06:41 PM

Luven: Why would you make a candy bar that was more than 1 serving any damn way. At least divide it into doses before you package it. FFS you don't eat the whole damn pan of brownies or cookies but candy bars? Fark yes you would normally eat the whole damn thing and they should expect that.


Taxes, my man.
 
2014-06-11 09:25:43 PM

Raoul Eaton: redmid17: The first time I had weed brownies, I ate far more than I was supposed to. I had either stomach cramps or nausea for a while. That obviously didn't feel good, and I was pretty high. Next time, I ate far less and had a pretty decent state of mind. My preference would be to just smoke the weed and eat the brownie when I get the munchies.

Never EVER eat a brownie when the brownies are the only snack food in the house.


Do you mean "a brownie" like a 13 x 9 pan?  Was that wrong?  Should I have not done that?
 
2014-06-11 10:46:39 PM

LazyMedia: adamatari: Uptight people like to make sure they don't enjoy things. I have a bit of this tendency myself that I have to watch out for.

She subconsciously chose to make herself miserable to validate her own preconceptions. She had advice she didn't follow, and she chose edibles over taking a puff (still the best way, IMHO), and so she ruined it for herself.

One puff of a marijuana joint, or "reefer", and you get lung cancer. Science. Fact.


No, man, you got it all backwards! It'll cure your lung cancer AND your herpes. Now THAT'S science!
 
2014-06-11 11:41:05 PM

rbuzby: I got real high after not imbibing for a while once, and turned on the tv.  The D Day beach scene from Saving Private Ryan was just starting.  I got so into it, it freaked me out and I was real jittery for a few hours after that.  I was unable to play golf, I was so rattled.

This is a true story.


The scene from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid where the posse is chasing them out of town is downright chilling if you're high enough.
 
2014-06-11 11:43:09 PM

Tom_Slick: Alright, Maureen, just listen. Everything is going to be fine. You're very high right now. You will probably be that way for about five more hours. Try taking some vitamin B complex, vitamin C complex.. if you have a beer, go ahead and drink it.. Just remember you're a living organism on this planet, and you're very safe. You've just taken a heavy drug. Relax, stay inside and listen to some music, Okay? Do you have any Allman BrothersPink Floyd?


/let's do this show right
 
2014-06-12 12:08:33 AM

mama2tnt: GoodDoctorB: coming to the well on the 21st, neighbor?

QFT = "Quoted for Truth," if I have it right. (But I'm old, so consider the source, sweetie....)


I see now.  "Quit farking talking" is still on Urban Dictionary, but waaaaaay down the list.  Learn something new everyday, I guess.
 
2014-06-12 12:29:41 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: rbuzby: I got real high after not imbibing for a while once, and turned on the tv.  The D Day beach scene from Saving Private Ryan was just starting.  I got so into it, it freaked me out and I was real jittery for a few hours after that.  I was unable to play golf, I was so rattled.

This is a true story.

The scene from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid where the posse is chasing them out of town is downright chilling if you're high enough.



Who are those guys?
 
2014-06-12 02:41:37 AM
If you have no Allman Brothers you might try the Eagles.  Or, screw it and go for Hendrix.
 
2014-06-12 01:09:17 PM

brap: Reminds me of the first time I had a wine spritzer.

Woke up five days later naked and somehow entangled in a ballroom chandelier.


That was YOU?
So maybe you can clear this up for me cause I've been wondering...
Who brought the goat?
 
2014-06-13 01:05:02 AM

rbuzby: I got real high after not imbibing for a while once, and turned on the tv.  The D Day beach scene from Saving Private Ryan was just starting.  I got so into it, it freaked me out and I was real jittery for a few hours after that.  I was unable to play golf, I was so rattled.

This is a true story.


That sort of happened to me with the movie Equilibrium, except it was the scene where they shoot all the dogs.
 
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