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2014-06-11 10:19:41 AM
Gotta love when government makes a rules then says they didn't
 
2014-06-11 10:25:40 AM

ArkAngel: Gotta love when government makes a rules then says they didn't


What, you mean like the ATF?
 
2014-06-11 10:38:07 AM
That was gouda them
 
2014-06-11 11:07:58 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: That was gouda them


People were feta up with the regulation.
 
2014-06-11 12:15:41 PM
You are now thinking about Ray Romano sporting wood.

/You're welcome.
 
2014-06-11 12:38:57 PM

ArkAngel: Gotta love when government makes a rules then says they didn't


Well, most of their cheese rules are full of holes anyway.
 
2014-06-11 01:08:09 PM
So you're telling me that the US fermented cow nipple solids industry is still able to make its festering products on bacteria-rich ligneous wafers? And that's a victory for the US public?

Well, OK then. Just so we're clear on that.
 
2014-06-11 01:10:14 PM
Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.
 
2014-06-11 01:10:46 PM
FDA needs to STFU  and leave cheese makers alone.
Those assholes are only puppets of wealthy food manufacturers.
 
2014-06-11 01:12:18 PM
Blessed are the cheese makers!
 
2014-06-11 01:12:19 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.


So in other words, it was made with the same production technique as all of Trader Joe's products?

/yuppies love the subtle taste of dog turds
 
2014-06-11 01:12:42 PM

vudukungfu: FDA needs to STFU  and leave cheese makers alone.


Blessed are the cheese makers.
 
2014-06-11 01:13:10 PM
I figured this one wasn't going to fly.

Kind of upset I didn't get to enjoy a good artisanal cheese-fueled rage.
 
2014-06-11 01:13:25 PM
I'm willing to bet that the Tea Party Palinite Randroids who filled Facebook with "OMG GUBMIT REGOOLASHUNS BAD" posts on this topic are now practicing their world famous [cricket noises] impression.
 
2014-06-11 01:13:25 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.


People are slowly starting to realize that Trader Joe's brand food is just slightly above mediocre.
 
2014-06-11 01:14:24 PM
I guess cheese from the EU (and the rest of the world) is OK as well then.

Pretty sure the EU would have retaliated with putting an import fee on a random US foodproduct to the same amount of the lack of cheese sales, thus farking over another food industry in USA.

/cheese with fly larvas are probably still forbidden.
 
2014-06-11 01:14:27 PM

lostcat: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.

People are slowly starting to realize that Trader Joe's brand food is just slightly above mediocre.


They have good snacks.  Finger food stuff, appetizers.  And cheap wine.
 
2014-06-11 01:14:52 PM

ArkAngel: Gotta love when government makes a rules then says they didn't


Non Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys?
 
2014-06-11 01:15:21 PM
Um, that "clarification" was clearly a "we are backing down this week, but now we are going to go for even worse regulations next month, so screw you."
 
2014-06-11 01:17:31 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.


You can tell by the color that the Stilton at Trader Joe's is always old. What should be a pure white with blue mold is always sort of a brownish yellow around the rind. It's still edible, but it's worth paying double the price to get it fresh at Whole Foods or a proper cheese shop.

/"White" Stilton with cranberries or apricots or other fruit is an abomination.
 
2014-06-11 01:17:46 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.


Hey, now.  It's Trader Joe's.  It's seasonal artisan dog turds, from an obscure breed of Swiss mountain dog.
 
2014-06-11 01:20:44 PM
spawn73:

Pretty sure the EU would have retaliated with putting an import fee on a random US foodproduct to the same amount of the lack of cheese sales, thus farking over another food industry in USA.

Those muensters!!
 
2014-06-11 01:23:00 PM

ArkAngel: Gotta love when government makes a rules then says they didn't


Overzealous staphers.
 
2014-06-11 01:24:49 PM

gweilo8888: So you're telling me that the US fermented cow nipple solids industry is still able to make its festering products on bacteria-rich ligneous wafers? And that's a victory for the US public?

Well, OK then. Just so we're clear on that.


Are you lactose intolerant or did I wheel of aged cheddar kill your paw?
 
2014-06-11 01:25:51 PM

Fear the Clam: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.

You can tell by the color that the Stilton at Trader Joe's is always old. What should be a pure white with blue mold is always sort of a brownish yellow around the rind. It's still edible, but it's worth paying double the price to get it fresh at Whole Foods or a proper cheese shop.

/"White" Stilton with cranberries or apricots or other fruit is an abomination.


Cheese is one of the few things at TJ's that doesn't seem to be really all that good.  I do find their cheese prices incredibly low (compared to here in Canada, but even compared to other stores down there) so I always wonder about the quality.

/ Their gouda was rubbery and flavourless.
 
2014-06-11 01:30:51 PM
"Cheese-Ruiner" is staying on the Big Spiffy List.

/mainly because nothing ever comes off of it
 
2014-06-11 01:32:49 PM
Sane prediction: we'll eventually end up with a warning label placed on cheese aged on wood, allowing for consumers to make an informed and educated choice in their purchases.

Likely prediction: the FDA, at the behest of Kraft, et al, will put these rules forward again, in a much more stealthy manner, leading the public to ignore it because they thought "we already heard this news story".
 
2014-06-11 01:33:35 PM
The next step could have been banning oak barrel aging for our favorite libations.  This my friends is but a small victory in the war against tyranny.
 
2014-06-11 01:35:13 PM

gweilo8888: So you're telling me that the US fermented cow nipple solids industry is still able to make its festering products on bacteria-rich ligneous wafers? And that's a victory for the US public?

Well, OK then. Just so we're clear on that.


Did you know meat is actually dead animals?!
 
2014-06-11 01:37:18 PM

ArkAngel: Gotta love when government makes a rules then says they didn't


They didn't say they didn't make a rule; they said they didn't make a new rule. Which is true:

"The FDA does not have a new policy banning the use of wooden shelves in cheese-making..." (emphasis added).

There was no new policy banning the use of wooden shelves, merely a clarification or whatever of an extant one.
 
2014-06-11 01:38:26 PM
If it doesn't come in a spray can it's not cheese.
 
2014-06-11 01:41:17 PM
I have a friend in cheeses.
 
2014-06-11 01:41:17 PM

Shazam999: Fear the Clam: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.

You can tell by the color that the Stilton at Trader Joe's is always old. What should be a pure white with blue mold is always sort of a brownish yellow around the rind. It's still edible, but it's worth paying double the price to get it fresh at Whole Foods or a proper cheese shop.

/"White" Stilton with cranberries or apricots or other fruit is an abomination.

Cheese is one of the few things at TJ's that doesn't seem to be really all that good.  I do find their cheese prices incredibly low (compared to here in Canada, but even compared to other stores down there) so I always wonder about the quality.

/ Their gouda was rubbery and flavourless.


IMHO Germans have never been that good at cheese.

Anything they have at Aldi North (what you know as Trader Joe's) and LIDL here in Denmark has always been bland.
 
2014-06-11 01:42:31 PM
fark the FDA, they whine about cheese aged on wood shelves but have no problem unleashing crap like Chantix and Humira on the population.

fark them, hard.
 
2014-06-11 01:43:07 PM
If the FDA keeps backpedaling like this, more of us will think their opinions don't mean jack.
 
2014-06-11 01:44:18 PM
Good.  That ruling was making a muenster out of me.
 
2014-06-11 01:45:24 PM

cyberspacedout: If the FDA keeps backpedaling like this, more of us will think their opinions don't mean jack.


Monterey Jack or Cheddar Jack?
 
2014-06-11 01:49:44 PM

JayCab: Sane prediction: we'll eventually end up with a warning label placed on cheese aged on wood, allowing for consumers to make an informed and educated choice in their purchases.

Likely prediction: the FDA, at the behest of Kraft, et al, will put these rules forward again, in a much more stealthy manner, leading the public to ignore it because they thought "we already heard this news story".


Quite possibly. Some form of licensing system requiring manufacturers to get a permit to age cheese on wood boards would be my guess. Make the permit conditions onerous enough small producers struggle to comply (in the name of 'public safety' of course) and voila, you've heavily stacked the system in favor of Big Cheese and earned that cushy board position that'll be waiting for you.
 
2014-06-11 01:58:20 PM
Wait, we're eating delicious, moldy. bacteria-laden milk and these fuccos are worried about the wood?
 
2014-06-11 01:58:56 PM

spawn73: Shazam999: Fear the Clam: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.

You can tell by the color that the Stilton at Trader Joe's is always old. What should be a pure white with blue mold is always sort of a brownish yellow around the rind. It's still edible, but it's worth paying double the price to get it fresh at Whole Foods or a proper cheese shop.

/"White" Stilton with cranberries or apricots or other fruit is an abomination.

Cheese is one of the few things at TJ's that doesn't seem to be really all that good.  I do find their cheese prices incredibly low (compared to here in Canada, but even compared to other stores down there) so I always wonder about the quality.

/ Their gouda was rubbery and flavourless.

IMHO Germans have never been that good at cheese.


I did Nazi that coming.
 
2014-06-11 02:00:34 PM
Fromagerie Fritz Kaiser Noyan, Quebec.

Aged Raclette..........

ca c'est bon!
 
2014-06-11 02:00:47 PM

gweilo8888: So you're telling me that the US fermented cow nipple solids industry is still able to make its festering products on bacteria-rich ligneous wafers? And that's a victory for the US public?

Well, OK then. Just so we're clear on that.


It doesn't have to be a cow.
 
2014-06-11 02:00:52 PM

The Numbers: JayCab: Sane prediction: we'll eventually end up with a warning label placed on cheese aged on wood, allowing for consumers to make an informed and educated choice in their purchases.

Likely prediction: the FDA, at the behest of Kraft, et al, will put these rules forward again, in a much more stealthy manner, leading the public to ignore it because they thought "we already heard this news story".

Quite possibly. Some form of licensing system requiring manufacturers to get a permit to age cheese on wood boards would be my guess. Make the permit conditions onerous enough small producers struggle to comply (in the name of 'public safety' of course) and voila, you've heavily stacked the system in favor of Big Cheese and earned that cushy board position that'll be waiting for you.


fark that.  it's going to be passed by congress.  congress will discuss a bill, titled Patriotic United States Safe Youth Freedom American Consumer and Trade Act, designed to save children and consumers from the dangers of banks, by removing any requirements for the filing of foreclosure proceedings, and on the 11th hour of debate, paragraph 1476(r)(1)(A)(III)(93)(e) will be added, providing: none shall cheese age on wood.
 
2014-06-11 02:01:07 PM
Good. Cheese lovers were waiting around for our cheese, and we were all starting to get a little pecorino.
 
2014-06-11 02:07:31 PM
Fear the Clam:

/"White" Stilton with cranberries or apricots or other fruit is an abomination.

But a delicious abomination. mmmmm blueberry Stilton.
 
2014-06-11 02:09:40 PM

Shazam999: spawn73: Shazam999: Fear the Clam: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Having just eaten some English Royal Stilton from Trader Joes, I'm convinced it was aged not on wood but on a pile of dog turds.

You can tell by the color that the Stilton at Trader Joe's is always old. What should be a pure white with blue mold is always sort of a brownish yellow around the rind. It's still edible, but it's worth paying double the price to get it fresh at Whole Foods or a proper cheese shop.

/"White" Stilton with cranberries or apricots or other fruit is an abomination.

Cheese is one of the few things at TJ's that doesn't seem to be really all that good.  I do find their cheese prices incredibly low (compared to here in Canada, but even compared to other stores down there) so I always wonder about the quality.

/ Their gouda was rubbery and flavourless.

IMHO Germans have never been that good at cheese.

I did Nazi that coming.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_cheeses

vs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_cheeses


You know, just an example. (not a totally random example, just saying, if I'm looking for cheese, I'd not go to a German supermarket. Because, they don't quite get it. They try to emulate, but its just wrong.)
 
2014-06-11 02:13:45 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: MaudlinMutantMollusk: That was gouda them

People were feta up with the regulation.


I read both of those in Chico Marx's voice.
 
2014-06-11 02:15:34 PM

ArcadianRefugee: ArkAngel: Gotta love when government makes a rules then says they didn't

They didn't say they didn't make a rule; they said they didn't make a new rule. Which is true:

"The FDA does not have a new policy banning the use of wooden shelves in cheese-making..." (emphasis added).

There was no new policy banning the use of wooden shelves, merely a clarification or whatever of an extant one.


Similar thing happened in Oregon regarding the transporting of home brew.

A brewery that wanted to host a home brew contest contacted the OLCC for a clarification regarding transportation of home brew.  Turns out all these years transporting home brew from where it was brewed had been illegal.

It seems it is better to ask forgiveness rather than ask for permission.
 
2014-06-11 02:16:11 PM

meat0918: ArcadianRefugee: ArkAngel: Gotta love when government makes a rules then says they didn't

They didn't say they didn't make a rule; they said they didn't make a new rule. Which is true:

"The FDA does not have a new policy banning the use of wooden shelves in cheese-making..." (emphasis added).

There was no new policy banning the use of wooden shelves, merely a clarification or whatever of an extant one.

Similar thing happened in Oregon regarding the transporting of home brew.

A brewery that wanted to host a home brew contest contacted the OLCC for a clarification regarding transportation of home brew.  Turns out all these years transporting home brew from where it was brewed had been illegal.

It seems it is better to ask forgiveness rather than ask for permission.


The also did fix it.
 
2014-06-11 02:23:29 PM

Nadie_AZ: Blessed are the cheese makers!


Obviously it's not meant to be taken literally, it refers to any manufacturer of dairy products.

/shut up Big Nose
 
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