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(The Raw Story)   "False flag attacks by the US government to take your guns away are getting so numerous and so easy to spot, you have to wonder why they keep trying. Seriously, it didn't work the first 100 times. The Masonic International Bankers should stop trying"   (rawstory.com) divider line 73
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2014-06-11 09:26:38 AM  
Is Alex Jones presenting paranoid conspiracy theories still "newsworthy"?
 
2014-06-11 09:35:32 AM  

Dimensio: Is Alex Jones presenting paranoid conspiracy theories still "newsworthy"?


You clearly missed the message here.  That's part of the conspiracy to discredit him.  To continually paint him as paranoid, narcissistic nut.

You really need to think outside of the box the government-controlled MSM constructed for you.
 
2014-06-11 09:43:15 AM  

Dimensio: Is Alex Jones presenting paranoid conspiracy theories still "newsworthy"?


I still contend that the only way to really get the full conspiratorial flavor of Alex Jones is to listen to his broadcasts on a shortwave radio.

His InfoWars program is on WWCR-shortwave from 11am to 3pm Central (12 Noon to 4pm Eastern) on 12.160 MHz.
http://www.wwcr.com/program-guides/WWCR_Program_Guide.pdf

You just kind of get that sense of "Hey, the government can't track me if I'm listening to it on shortwave" feeling that you just don't get from the Internet.  Plus, you can't *SEE* him, which adds to the mystique.  You expect him to bust out in Red Dawn-esque code phrases at any minute.

I can only take him in small doses, though.  He's a freakin' loon, kind of like an anti-government Art Bell:  He'll believe anything you tell him, so long as it will sell whatever merchandise he's hawking.
 
2014-06-11 09:50:16 AM  
www.rawstory.com

I think this is the best "that wasn't just a fart" faces I've seen in a while.
 
2014-06-11 09:55:57 AM  

nmrsnr: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

I think this is the best "that wasn't just a fart" faces I've seen in a while.


I think someone wheeled in a cake just off screen.
 
2014-06-11 09:57:34 AM  

nmrsnr: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

I think this is the best "that wasn't just a fart" faces I've seen in a while.


And that's the reason why you need to listen to him on shortwave.  Who can take a clown like that seriously if you can actually *SEE* him?
 
2014-06-11 10:00:37 AM  
Anyone who claims "false flag" just can't bear the idea that someone they tacitly support could be that unhinged.

Here's a hint: they are
 
2014-06-11 10:02:18 AM  

naughtyrev: nmrsnr: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

I think this is the best "that wasn't just a fart" faces I've seen in a while.

I think someone wheeled in a cake just off screen.


In the still shot he looks like "Office Baby Boss" - the new recurring skit/character on SNL.
 
2014-06-11 10:08:26 AM  
Are we not above jailing people for fomenting rebellion anymore? We have a word for it, it is sedition. We have laws against it.

I'm not saying I would love to see Sean Hannity handcuffed on his way to a off-the-books detention center to be waterboarded. I'm not saying that.
 
2014-06-11 10:12:37 AM  
FALSE FLAG GOES WHERE?
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-11 10:22:44 AM  

bdub77: Are we not above jailing people for fomenting rebellion anymore? We have a word for it, it is sedition. We have laws against it.


We also have the First Amendment, which trumps it in almost all cases.

The standard to prove that someone is actually engaged in rebellion against the United States is pretty damned high, and even then, if history is any guide, even if you meet that standard of proof they are treated with kid gloves afterwards so as not to make things worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis#Later_years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee#After_the_war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.G.T._Beauregard#Postbellum_life
 
2014-06-11 10:25:23 AM  
It would totally work if Obama would finally get around to declaring martial law and confiscating all firearms.
I guess he's waiting until late October so he can cancel midterm elections first.
 
2014-06-11 10:25:36 AM  

dittybopper: bdub77: Are we not above jailing people for fomenting rebellion anymore? We have a word for it, it is sedition. We have laws against it.

We also have the First Amendment, which trumps it in almost all cases.

The standard to prove that someone is actually engaged in rebellion against the United States is pretty damned high, and even then, if history is any guide, even if you meet that standard of proof they are treated with kid gloves afterwards so as not to make things worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis#Later_years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee#After_the_war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.G.T._Beauregard#Postbellum_life


Plus, just pros and cons.  Can you imagine the outcry (and possibly worse) if they actually tried to reprimand him?
 
2014-06-11 10:41:39 AM  
Who the hell is Alex Jones?
 
2014-06-11 10:46:49 AM  
Someone should do a body count of all the left wing false flag operations and all the right wing false flag operations and see who comes out on top
 
2014-06-11 10:48:42 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: It would totally work if Obama would finally get around to declaring martial law and confiscating all firearms.


He ain't gonna declare martial law.

But he did just speak approvingly of confiscating all semi-automatic weapons:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/obama-praises-australias-gun-control-bri ng s-country-into-us-gun-debate-20140611-zs3q5.html

Couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting, similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, that's it, we're not doing, we're not seeing that again, and basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws, and they haven't had a mass shooting since

The gun control law in Australia that he speaks approvingly of banned *ALL* semi-automatic rifles (including .22 rimfire guns), and all semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia#The_Port_Arth ur _massacre_and_its_consequences

Australia confiscated well over 600,000 guns from gun owners (though they did pay the owners compensation).
 
2014-06-11 10:49:22 AM  

dittybopper: Rev. Skarekroe: It would totally work if Obama would finally get around to declaring martial law and confiscating all firearms.

He ain't gonna declare martial law.

But he did just speak approvingly of confiscating all semi-automatic weapons:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/obama-praises-australias-gun-control-bri ng s-country-into-us-gun-debate-20140611-zs3q5.html

Couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting, similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, that's it, we're not doing, we're not seeing that again, and basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws, and they haven't had a mass shooting since

The gun control law in Australia that he speaks approvingly of banned *ALL* semi-automatic rifles (including .22 rimfire guns), and all semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia#The_Port_Arth ur _massacre_and_its_consequences

Australia confiscated well over 600,000 guns from gun owners (though they did pay the owners compensation).


Oh, and by the way, Australia *DID* have a mass shooting after that.
 
2014-06-11 10:50:06 AM  

bdub77: Are we not above jailing people for fomenting rebellion anymore? We have a word for it, it is sedition. We have laws against it.

I'm not saying I would love to see Sean Hannity handcuffed on his way to a off-the-books detention center to be waterboarded. I'm not saying that.


I'll say it.
 
2014-06-11 10:53:27 AM  

dittybopper: Rev. Skarekroe: It would totally work if Obama would finally get around to declaring martial law and confiscating all firearms.

He ain't gonna declare martial law.

But he did just speak approvingly of confiscating all semi-automatic weapons:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/obama-praises-australias-gun-control-bri ng s-country-into-us-gun-debate-20140611-zs3q5.html

Couple of decades ago, Australia had a mass shooting, similar to Columbine or Newtown. And Australia just said, well, that's it, we're not doing, we're not seeing that again, and basically imposed very severe, tough gun laws, and they haven't had a mass shooting since

The gun control law in Australia that he speaks approvingly of banned *ALL* semi-automatic rifles (including .22 rimfire guns), and all semi-automatic and pump-action shotguns:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia#The_Port_Arth ur _massacre_and_its_consequences

Australia confiscated well over 600,000 guns from gun owners (though they did pay the owners compensation).


Funny how the rest of the civilized world does better at controlling its nut jobs and right wingers better than we do.

As for your guns, I could give a sh*t. If you care about your guns, tell your friends who own guns to stop trying to overthrow the government. I like the government. I like civilization. If you asswit right wing effs keep pushing the issue and force Americans to decide, most of us will choose to support the government, and will cheer when you tea party nut cases get what you deserve.

So spare me the 2nd amendment noise. I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone with zero right to own a gun unless you are a hunter, a rural land owner, a policeman, or a trained marksman. Nobody else. Period. I am far more endangered by right wing asswits who are armed than I am by anyone in the government.
 
2014-06-11 10:58:26 AM  

Generation_D: Funny how the rest of the civilized world does better at controlling its nut jobs and right wingers better than we do.


Are we talking about the last couple of decades, or the full 100 years prior?  Because I can think of some right-wing nut jobs that did a number on the "civilized world" within living memory.
 
2014-06-11 11:01:57 AM  

Generation_D: I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone


Watch out for the critters in Australia, mate.  Everything's poisonous down there from jellyfish to toads.
 
2014-06-11 11:02:18 AM  

Generation_D: So spare me the 2nd amendment noise. I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone with zero right to own a gun unless you are a hunter, a rural land owner, a policeman, or a trained marksman. Nobody else. Period. I am far more endangered by right wing asswits who are armed than I am by anyone in the government.


So you're one of those anti-government loons?  Duly noted.
 
2014-06-11 11:04:52 AM  

dittybopper: Generation_D: So spare me the 2nd amendment noise. I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone with zero right to own a gun unless you are a hunter, a rural land owner, a policeman, or a trained marksman. Nobody else. Period. I am far more endangered by right wing asswits who are armed than I am by anyone in the government.

So you're one of those anti-government loons?  Duly noted.


Gotcha politics with an out of context quote.

Listening to alex jones all these years has taught you well it would seem.

KILL OBAMA

That last one is for the NSA's parser, but feel free to use it if you like.
 
2014-06-11 11:10:48 AM  

Generation_D: Gotcha politics with an out of context quote.


Yes.  So, tell me, how do you feel now that it's been done to you?  Do you feel like someone took a cheap shot at you?

Welcome to the world of the gun rights advocate.  You can say the most level-headed and defensible thing, and back it up with numbers, and it will be parsed as satan's own proclamation.
 
2014-06-11 11:14:07 AM  

dittybopper: Generation_D: Gotcha politics with an out of context quote.

Yes.  So, tell me, how do you feel now that it's been done to you?  Do you feel like someone took a cheap shot at you?

Welcome to the world of the gun rights advocate.  You can say the most level-headed and defensible thing, and back it up with numbers, and it will be parsed as satan's own proclamation.


The problem is, there's rhetorical shots, such as the fun things we're engaging in here, and there's literal actual shots, like the kind the right wingers go out and do to people because of their idiot beliefs.

I really don't mind guns, many of my coworkers are sane gun owners who have great gun and trigger discipline. Many of them also feel the NRA goes too far and would like to see background checks and closing the gun-show loopholes.

But many non gun owners such as myself have kind of had it past up to here with the whole circus - every time another preventable tragedy happens, we get more and more unwilling to get into the "parsing the gun laws" trap that gun owners usually try. What ammunition is legal. Is it a clip or a magazine. Is it a semi auto or an auto. Don't care. We let some asshat buy one without a background check, now he's gone and murdered people because of his politics. That is on you guys that put up the obstructions to better gun laws, not on those of us who would be fine with banning all guns entirely.
 
2014-06-11 11:45:40 AM  
Alex Jones is less than four years older than I am.

I appear to be as old as I actually am.

Alex Jones, in 2009, appeared to be ten years older than I appear to be today.
 
2014-06-11 11:53:13 AM  

Dimensio: Alex Jones is less than four years older than I am.

I appear to be as old as I actually am.

Alex Jones, in 2009, appeared to be ten years older than I appear to be today.


I'll speculate that cocaine is a helluva drug
 
2014-06-11 11:58:20 AM  

Generation_D: So spare me the 2nd amendment noise. I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone with zero right to own a gun unless you are a hunter, a rural land owner, a policeman, or a trained marksman. Nobody else. Period.


When politicians express this sentiment, gun rights extremist groups gain more support, which enables them to more effectively stop any and all new firearm regulation proposals, including proposals that are actually reasonable.
 
2014-06-11 12:02:22 PM  

Dimensio: Generation_D: So spare me the 2nd amendment noise. I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone with zero right to own a gun unless you are a hunter, a rural land owner, a policeman, or a trained marksman. Nobody else. Period.

When politicians express this sentiment, gun rights extremist groups gain more support, which enables them to more effectively stop any and all new firearm regulation proposals, including proposals that are actually reasonable.


This, and when nuts without guns hear this stuff, they feel like it must now be time to get a gun before it is too late, and being nuts, nutty things happen.
 
2014-06-11 12:13:22 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

rarerborealis.com
 
2014-06-11 12:15:28 PM  

Diogenes: Dimensio: Is Alex Jones presenting paranoid conspiracy theories still "newsworthy"?

You clearly missed the message here.  That's part of the conspiracy to discredit him.  To continually paint him as paranoid, narcissistic nut.

You really need to think outside of the box the government-controlled MSM constructed for you.


You're missing the bigger picture, it's Jones' own appearance as a nut that is meant to make anything he says seem unbelievable.  He calls this a false flag? Well, he's a nut, so therefore it must have really happened, but that's just what they want you to believe!
 
2014-06-11 12:16:15 PM  

Generation_D: bdub77: Are we not above jailing people for fomenting rebellion anymore? We have a word for it, it is sedition. We have laws against it.

I'm not saying I would love to see Sean Hannity handcuffed on his way to a off-the-books detention center to be waterboarded. I'm not saying that.

I'll say it.


Seconded.

Call the vote
 
2014-06-11 12:19:02 PM  

dittybopper: Welcome to the world of the gun rights advocate.  You can say the most level-headed and defensible thing, and back it up with numbers, and it will be parsed as satan's own proclamation.


This swings both ways. I know your stance on gun rights and I get it, even if I personally don't believe that, for example, handing a young child a gun is ever the proper thing for reasons of brain chemistry. But make even the most level-headed argument in favor of gun regulation and back it up with numbers and gun rights advocates jump down your throat about the goddamn 2nd amendment as if our forefathers knew what the future of firearms would yield. They were still worried about dudes in red coats coming into their houses.

Until we fix the mental health system and start reporting our neighbors for saying crazy seditious sh*t on facebook before going off and murdering people, we need regulations or this stuff is going to continue to happen on a regular basis.

And of course we can look at the sane comments you can find from 'gun advocates' on places like Breitbart:

Someone needs to sponsor a "journalist range day" where they take a large group of journalists to a sizable outdoor range, spend a couple of hours teaching them about various weapons and of course weapon safety. Before they can fire a round, they need to pass a 50 question quiz. Any journalist that does not pass will be used for target practice.

It doesn't help that these types of ultra right wing sites are probably making the mental health issue worse. Propoganda and brainwashing is very real.
 
2014-06-11 12:19:20 PM  

Generation_D: Listening to alex jones all these years has taught you well it would seem.

KILL OBAMA

That last one is for the NSA's parser, but feel free to use it if you like.


You want to be careful with shiat like that dude. It's not conspiracy-think to point out that crap like that will get you a visit from the SS
 
2014-06-11 12:25:14 PM  

Generation_D: So spare me the 2nd amendment noise. I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone with zero right to own a gun unless you are a hunter, a rural land owner, a policeman, or a trained marksman. Nobody else. Period. I am far more endangered by right wing asswits who are armed than I am by anyone in the government.


There are so many things the constitution should do differently.  It was a good prototype, the first designed government, but it had flaws in the design.  I recently read the Finnish constitution is much closer to how it should be done.
 
2014-06-11 12:26:06 PM  

ikanreed: Generation_D: So spare me the 2nd amendment noise. I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone with zero right to own a gun unless you are a hunter, a rural land owner, a policeman, or a trained marksman. Nobody else. Period. I am far more endangered by right wing asswits who are armed than I am by anyone in the government.

There are so many things the constitution should do differently.  It was a good prototype, the first designed government, but it had flaws in the design.  I recently read the Finnish constitution which is much closer to how it should be done.


FTFM.  I didn't just mindlessly regurgitate some opinion I read.
 
2014-06-11 12:27:22 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: You want to be careful with shiat like that dude. It's not conspiracy-think to point out that crap like that will get you a visit from the SS


You should have snipped that part out to avoid getting a visit yourself.  That dumbass deserves to have the SS pay him a visit.  If they do and I'm sure they will he can also expect an IRS audit, a complete background check by the FBI and a lifetime of being on the SS watchlist when POTUS comes to town.

Generation_D, that was the wrong way to get an FBI file.  All the cool kids do it by misbehaving, not for typing something stupid like that.
 
2014-06-11 12:27:48 PM  

ikanreed: Generation_D: So spare me the 2nd amendment noise. I'd rather see the Constitution torn up and redone with zero right to own a gun unless you are a hunter, a rural land owner, a policeman, or a trained marksman. Nobody else. Period. I am far more endangered by right wing asswits who are armed than I am by anyone in the government.

There are so many things the constitution should do differently.  It was a good prototype, the first designed government, but it had flaws in the design.  I recently read the Finnish constitution is much closer to how it should be done.


You're saying it was a good start, but we should Finnish the job?
 
2014-06-11 12:29:11 PM  

dittybopper: The standard to prove that someone is actually engaged in rebellion against the United States is pretty damned high, and even then, if history is any guide, even if you meet that standard of proof they are treated with kid gloves afterwards so as not to make things worse.


This is a complete misreading of U.S. history on issues of 1st Amendment vs. sedition. The pattern has been and remains "horrifically violate constitutional principles, then 10 or 20 years after the fact, get all enlightened and look back sneeringly on what rotten people we were back then."
 
2014-06-11 12:31:01 PM  
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2014-06-11 12:34:59 PM  

ArkAngel: Someone should do a body count of all the left wing false flag operations and all the right wing false flag operations and see who comes out on top


That's a lot of false flaggotry.
 
2014-06-11 12:35:05 PM  

dittybopper: Oh, and by the way, Australia *DID* have a mass shooting after that.


A mass shooting? One?
 
2014-06-11 12:39:17 PM  
I fear gun nuts (maybe just nuts in general, but the ones with guns are scarier) and the sovereign citizen movement far more than I fear the government. They don't operate with any kind of legal guidance, they are willing to take matters into their own hands against law enforcement, they love to play ITG, and they seem far more willing to threaten people who disagree with them with violence and death. I can't remember the last time I got a call from the local FOP when I said I wouldn't donate they said "We know where you live, son."

Worse, if we were to report these people and they weren't locked up, they might come to your house in the middle of the night and murder you before they begin whatever killing spree they've cooked up. Even worse, how do you separate the crazies from the ones who will actually murder you?

As for my government? Sh*t, those guys can't even draft a single piece of good legislation. Sure the military is out there but there is a chain of authorization and most of those guys operate under a code. I'm always worried about my government, but right now? The trigger-happy stooges who operate under constant paranoia are much scarier to me.

Having said that, I don't live in constant fear. I disassociate myself from those types of people. But I know they exist, and I have friends who are on the fringe of going in that direction.
 
2014-06-11 12:41:13 PM  

dittybopper: Dimensio: Is Alex Jones presenting paranoid conspiracy theories still "newsworthy"?

I still contend that the only way to really get the full conspiratorial flavor of Alex Jones is to listen to his broadcasts on a shortwave radio.

His InfoWars program is on WWCR-shortwave from 11am to 3pm Central (12 Noon to 4pm Eastern) on 12.160 MHz.
http://www.wwcr.com/program-guides/WWCR_Program_Guide.pdf

You just kind of get that sense of "Hey, the government can't track me if I'm listening to it on shortwave" feeling that you just don't get from the Internet.  Plus, you can't *SEE* him, which adds to the mystique.  You expect him to bust out in Red Dawn-esque code phrases at any minute.

I can only take him in small doses, though.  He's a freakin' loon, kind of like an anti-government Art Bell:  He'll believe anything you tell him, so long as it will sell whatever merchandise he's hawking.


Art Bell is kinda like that.   Listen to him in your house and he's absurd.  Listen to him via some barely coming in AM radio Station as You are driving through the night on some lonely interstate in the Mid- or Southwest?   It becomes a whole different animal.

And listening to a scratchy radio broadcast of him  at 3 am in the high NV desert during Burning Manon  the night a giant piece of space debris lit up the Sky over the playa for nearly 30 seconds?   Well that was just cool
 
2014-06-11 12:50:22 PM  
Alex Jones is so much of a conspiracy nut, after a dump he wipes his ass with tinfoil.
 
2014-06-11 01:21:38 PM  
Masonic International Bankers?

M.I.B.?

static3.businessinsider.com

/study it out
 
2014-06-11 01:23:57 PM  

nmrsnr: [www.rawstory.com image 615x345]

I think this is the best "that wasn't just a fart" faces I've seen in a while.


I sharted laughing at this post.

/you bastard!
 
2014-06-11 01:36:16 PM  

OregonVet: Who the hell is Alex Jones?


The bad guy from the original Robocop, right?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-11 01:51:26 PM  

theknuckler_33: Masonic International Bankers?

M.I.B.?

[static3.businessinsider.com image 500x333]

/study it out


Glad I wasn't the only one who thought of that right away.

/once you've seen it you can't unsee it
 
2014-06-11 01:51:54 PM  
bdub77

...they are willing to take matters into their own hands against law enforcement, they love to play ITG...

These two seem somewhat mutually exclusive.
 
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