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(Independent)   Scientists launch search for 'sea monster' that devoured nine-foot-long great white shark. As they are looking off the coast of Australia, the list of suspects is already in the hundreds   (independent.co.uk) divider line 52
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2014-06-11 07:52:39 AM  
The data showed a sudden descent before the temperature increase. Isn't it possible the thing just died and the piece with the beacon was eaten by a smaller scavenger?
 
2014-06-11 08:29:00 AM  
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2014-06-11 08:33:39 AM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: The data showed a sudden descent before the temperature increase. Isn't it possible the thing just died and the piece with the beacon was eaten by a smaller scavenger?


Highly unlikely if it was unhealthy to begin with.  But maybe she had been eating a high cholesterol diet and smoking a lot.
 
2014-06-11 08:58:58 AM  

That Guy What Stole the Bacon: The data showed a sudden descent before the temperature increase. Isn't it possible the thing just died and the piece with the beacon was eaten by a smaller scavenger?


That doesn't explain a sudden descent. Don't sea creatures have good buoyancy? It may sink, but slowly.

Anyway, I hate articles that at the end you learn they're just an advert for a TV show. They usually turn out to be flawed.
 
2014-06-11 09:01:36 AM  
They're going to need a bigger shark.
 
2014-06-11 09:03:14 AM  

SpdrJay: They're going to need a bigger shark.


Bigger Jaws?
 
2014-06-11 09:03:25 AM  

vpb: That Guy What Stole the Bacon: The data showed a sudden descent before the temperature increase. Isn't it possible the thing just died and the piece with the beacon was eaten by a smaller scavenger?

Highly unlikely if it was unhealthy to begin with.  But maybe she had been eating a high cholesterol diet and smoking a lot.


Well, fine. Leviathan it is, then!

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2014-06-11 09:06:39 AM  
1. Bigger shark
2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)
 
2014-06-11 09:11:30 AM  
It was only 9 feet long, a giant or colossal squid could have also been the culprits.
 
2014-06-11 09:28:03 AM  
Christ... what is this, a fourpete now?

Are we going to green a story about this stupid farking shark EVERY DAY this week?
 
2014-06-11 09:30:26 AM  

Demogorgon: It was only 9 feet long, a giant or colossal squid could have also been the culprits.


squid was my first thought.
 
2014-06-11 09:31:47 AM  

Leopold Stotch: 1. Bigger shark
2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)


Giant Squid. Often kill both whales and sharks.
 
2014-06-11 09:33:57 AM  
Maybe it was MH370
 
2014-06-11 09:35:26 AM  

Quantumbunny: Leopold Stotch: 1. Bigger shark
2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)

Giant Squid. Often kill both whales and sharks.


Do the squids have the right body temperature for this though?  I would expect it to be an endothermic animal, and I don't know if the squid fits the bill.
 
2014-06-11 09:36:03 AM  

Leopold Stotch: 1. Bigger shark
2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)


Would an orca or sperm whale take it to so deep after killing it? I suppose it could be a strategy to avoid other predators trying to steal the kill. A giant squid would seem to be a good possibility.

I hate the fake sense of suspense they create for these shows. If they had actually found anything interesting, it would have made the news already.
 
2014-06-11 09:38:09 AM  

neongoats: Christ... what is this, a fourpete now?

Are we going to green a story about this stupid farking shark EVERY DAY this week?


Do I have to repeat my Hitler reference, too?
 
2014-06-11 09:40:40 AM  
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2014-06-11 09:40:49 AM  
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Something ate the tracking device. Duh.
 
2014-06-11 09:40:59 AM  
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lots of videos showing how the orca takes out the white shark

basically, the whale attacks behind the head and flips the shark over.  when sharks are flipped over, they get confused and basically shut down.  shark ends up suffocating, whale rips dead shark to pieces.

/ interestingly, when the white shark's liver is ripped out, there is a scent that functions as a warning, and there won't be any more white sharks in that area for a long time.
 
2014-06-11 09:41:31 AM  
I think it is bigfoot. He has gone aquatic and that is why the rednecks can't find him.
 
2014-06-11 09:41:57 AM  

Leopold Stotch: 3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)


And warm blooded. Eating the beacon (excreted later) would certainly have raised the ambient temperature.
Grabbed the shark and sounded. Maybe it mistook it for a small whale and was trying to drown it using the sperm whale's superior breath-holding.
 
2014-06-11 09:42:30 AM  
Sorry, I got a little peckish.
 
2014-06-11 09:52:02 AM  
Sounds to me like a sperm whale; they can dive hella deep. Compression on the shark at that depth would make it easier to consume? I'm no zoologist.....
 
2014-06-11 10:04:23 AM  
I got about tree-fiddy.
 
2014-06-11 10:09:36 AM  

Leopold Stotch: 2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)


Nope, whales have to surface.  The last article on this said the tag was at depth for several days before coming to the surface.
 
2014-06-11 10:15:33 AM  
The body temperature of a sperm whale is 33 degrees Celsius. That's higher than the 25C recorded by the device, so it probably wasn't eaten by a sperm whale.
 
2014-06-11 10:24:09 AM  
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2014-06-11 10:27:51 AM  

Leopold Stotch: Quantumbunny: Leopold Stotch: 1. Bigger shark
2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)

Giant Squid. Often kill both whales and sharks.

Do the squids have the right body temperature for this though?  I would expect it to be an endothermic animal, and I don't know if the squid fits the bill.



I wouldn't think so. Some sharks and fish like Tuna actually do produce heat through their use of high powered muscles, but I don't think squid operate the same way.

Perhaps we have found out what caused the big bloop?
 
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2014-06-11 10:29:45 AM  
Do they KNOW the shark is dead? Maybe something just took a bite around the thingy and the rest of the shark swam away.

I'm going for: 10' shark.
 
2014-06-11 10:39:00 AM  

Leopold Stotch: 1. Bigger shark
2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)


Can't be 2 or 3. The data said it was deep for a few days before going back up. Whales have to come up every 20 minutes or something like that
 
2014-06-11 10:42:35 AM  
The recorded temperature seems a bit high for the stomach of another great white (something like twice the average, IIRC). It's too low for a whale, and whales can't submerge that long.

Malfunctioning tracker, maybe? I'm relatively certain there's all kinds of shiat in the ocean that we have little to no idea about it, but the reason we tend to have little idea about it is because, as a general thing, it doesn't jaunt up to eat random stuff terribly often.
 
2014-06-11 10:47:41 AM  
I'm betting on Fluffy, Destroyer of Worlds.
 
2014-06-11 10:53:46 AM  
I wouldn't count out the possibility of a giant squid. Muscle and digestion create some heat, and a giant squid Is large enough to retain some of that heat. Nobody has had the chance to study a live so we don't know what the normal body temperature for a giant squid is.
 
2014-06-11 10:59:04 AM  
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2014-06-11 10:59:50 AM  
Well that was a disappointing read, I learned nothing from it.... I'm betting the tv show is equally bereft of any factual conclusions.
 
2014-06-11 11:04:47 AM  

neongoats: Christ... what is this, a fourpete now?

Are we going to green a story about this stupid farking shark EVERY DAY this week?


Maybe it's some kind of week of sharks, or something.
 
2014-06-11 11:05:45 AM  
FTA: "Data from the device showed the healthy female shark suddenly plunged at high speed to a depth of 1,900-foot, (580 metres) beneath the surface. ...The tag recorded a dramatic temperature shift from 7°C to 25°C, suggesting the tag was inside the stomach of another animal as it ate the shark."

I'm going with defective tag.  Simplest explanation and all.
 
2014-06-11 11:07:20 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: I wouldn't count out the possibility of a giant squid. Muscle and digestion create some heat, and a giant squid Is large enough to retain some of that heat. Nobody has had the chance to study a live so we don't know what the normal body temperature for a giant squid is.


This was on Nat Geo ( I think ) last night, there is no way it could be a squid.
basically due to the limitations to the size of the squids beak which has to fit between the donut shaped brain the mouth could never be big enough to swallow the beacon.
an Orca's internal temp is too high.
the temp of 26-26 does correspond very nicely to that recorded from a great white. they even may have met the culprit during a cage dive, even on telly it looked like a big mean mutha f****a!
interesting programme though.
 
2014-06-11 11:08:07 AM  
Esteban was eaten!

I'm going to find it and I'm going to destroy it. I don't know how yet. Possibly with dynamite.
 
2014-06-11 11:09:08 AM  
Pilot suicide.
 
2014-06-11 11:17:21 AM  

FarkingReading: Esteban was eaten!

I'm going to find it and I'm going to destroy it. I don't know how yet. Possibly with dynamite.


What scientific purpose could that possibly serve?
 
2014-06-11 11:26:08 AM  

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lots of videos showing how the orca takes out the white shark

basically, the whale attacks behind the head and flips the shark over.  when sharks are flipped over, they get confused and basically shut down.  shark ends up suffocating, whale rips dead shark to pieces.

/ interestingly, when the white shark's liver is ripped out, there is a scent that functions as a warning, and there won't be any more white sharks in that area for a long time.


And the great whites are fleeing the area of these attacks in droves. Like 2000+ miles, because a thousand miles is too f*cking close. That's New York to Mizzoura. That's too close for the great whites.

Don't get me wrong, the dive pattern fits with another shark, and it would be a good idea to keep tabs on a shark big enough to make a 9 footer a snack, but this "mystery monster" is only a "mystery monster" in the eyes of the media. Scientists, until they see it up close, are going to call it a "mystery" because they don't know, for certain, what ate the tracker, and then either coughed it up, or shat it out. But most folks figure it was another shark. And a good sized one.
 
2014-06-11 11:28:01 AM  

OceanVortex: FarkingReading: Esteban was eaten!

I'm going to find it and I'm going to destroy it. I don't know how yet. Possibly with dynamite.

What scientific purpose could that possibly serve?


Revenge.
 
2014-06-11 11:33:18 AM  

Priapetic: OceanVortex: FarkingReading: Esteban was eaten!

I'm going to find it and I'm going to destroy it. I don't know how yet. Possibly with dynamite.

What scientific purpose could that possibly serve?

Revenge.


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2014-06-11 12:08:44 PM  
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2014-06-11 12:27:26 PM  
So an 18 foot shark ate a 9 foot shark.
 
2014-06-11 12:33:58 PM  

Leopold Stotch: 1. Bigger shark
2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)


Sperm Whale is my guess, partly due to the depth (1600 ft) the shark dropped to, and the warm digestive system.

I don't know enough about Orcas to know if they dive to 1600 ft on a regular basis.   But we do know they kill White Sharks on a regular basis.  At least, one pod near Los Angeles does.
 
2014-06-11 12:42:34 PM  

weiserfireman: Leopold Stotch: 1. Bigger shark
2. Orca (have been observed killing and eating them)
3. Sperm Whale (certainly big enough, and a predator)

Sperm Whale is my guess, partly due to the depth (1600 ft) the shark dropped to, and the warm digestive system.

I don't know enough about Orcas to know if they dive to 1600 ft on a regular basis.   But we do know they kill White Sharks on a regular basis.  At least, one pod near Los Angeles does.


It can't be a sperm whale since it stayed submerged for several days. Whales need to come to the surface to breathe every 20 minutes to an hour.
 
2014-06-11 12:54:39 PM  

scumshine: Sounds to me like a sperm whale; they can dive hella deep. Compression on the shark at that depth would make it easier to consume? I'm no zoologist.....


Apart from a swim bladder I don't think fish have any gas filled spaces. Fluids are effectively incompressible and the shark's flesh is mostly water so probably not all that much compressing to be done even at great depth.

It's like that scene in The Abyss where they fill what's his name's lungs with oxygenated fluid before pushing him into the rift. At depth, lungs can get crushed down to the size of baseballs and have no capacity for gas exchange but if you fill them with fluid they cannot be collapsed. Your GI tract would certainly be smooshed shut (you'd probably rip a massive fart as it happened and shiat/vomit at the same time, but you don't need a gas filled bowel to live).
 
2014-06-11 01:17:59 PM  

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And a good sized one.


or more than one.  that's my theory.

we're going to end up finding out, the shark got hit by a prop somewhere, the little piece of his back where the device was located got ripped out, and then some tiny thing ate it up and submerged.
 
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