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(Dallas News)   The most likely candidate to replace Eric Cantor as House Majority Leader is way more conservative, and way more sympathetic to the Tea Party. Believe it or not, things in Congress are about to get even worse   (trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com) divider line 295
    More: Followup, Jeb Hensarling, Eric Cantor, Speaker John Boehner, Ralph Hall, House Republican Conference, Republican Study Committee, House Financial Services Committee, Speaker of the House  
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2014-06-10 11:24:38 PM  
It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.
 
2014-06-10 11:25:13 PM  
Although I should also say that the one thing which clearly could get worse is a real debt default forced by the Tea Party. So yeah, that would be worse.
 
2014-06-10 11:34:30 PM  
Corpse isn't even cold, the actual November election hasn't even happened, but we might as well speculate now. Cuz, you know, for funzies ...
 
2014-06-10 11:35:19 PM  
I am not at all surprised.

And you just know they're going to toss Boehner as speaker so, yah.

If the republicans get the senate you could count in MINUTES the ammount of time before the house starts impeachment proceedings.

And that would fark the entire farking country.  Because fark you, that's why.
 
2014-06-10 11:35:40 PM  

HawgWild: Corpse isn't even cold, the actual November election hasn't even happened, but we might as well speculate now. Cuz, you know, for funzies ...


Elections for House Majority Leader could happen tomorrow if Cantor steps aside from the post, since he can't operate as a lame fark for the next 7 months. The leadership position requires leverage, and now he has none.

Better to know what you're talking about before you get all high and mighty.
 
2014-06-10 11:36:26 PM  

Ambivalence: And you just know they're going to toss Boehner as speaker so, yah.


No they won't. They genuinely seem to like John Boehner, since he does his best to make everyone on his team happy despite accomplishing nothing at all. He's the Romeo Crennel of Congress.
 
2014-06-10 11:37:01 PM  

Ambivalence: If the republicans get the senate you could count in MINUTES the ammount of time before the house starts impeachment proceedings.


How does taking the Senate make impeachment more likely? You need 2/3 of the Senate to convict, taking a majority doesn't do anything.
 
2014-06-10 11:37:46 PM  

DamnYankees: Elections for House Majority Leader could happen tomorrow if Cantor steps aside from the post, since he can't operate as a lame fark for the next 7 months. The leadership position requires leverage, and now he has none.

Better to know what you're talking about before you get all high and mighty.


That would be interesting. Cantor, politically neutered...hmmm...

Would Cantor have to step aside or could the caucus force him out? If they force Cantor out would they or could they force Boehner out too?
 
2014-06-10 11:39:54 PM  

DamnYankees: Ambivalence: If the republicans get the senate you could count in MINUTES the ammount of time before the house starts impeachment proceedings.

How does taking the Senate make impeachment more likely? You need 2/3 of the Senate to convict, taking a majority doesn't do anything.


It's a fool who looks for logic in the chambers of a republican's mind.  Any idiot could tell them they had no upside to shutting down the government but they did it anyway and THEN tried to blame it on the president like he had any say in it.

Regardless of whether they would be successful, I can absolutely see them trying. Hell, just seeing what BS "crimes" they are going to pin on Obama would be entertaining enough.
 
2014-06-10 11:40:22 PM  

Ambivalence: Would Cantor have to step aside or could the caucus force him out? If they force Cantor out would they or could they force Boehner out too?


I don't know if you can force Cantor out - its probably hard. And again, the GOP Congress likes Boehner. They aren't booting him.
 
2014-06-10 11:40:59 PM  

Ambivalence: Any idiot could tell them they had no upside to shutting down the government but they did it anyway and THEN tried to blame it on the president like he had any say in it.


There was sadly no downside to it either. They aren't going to suffer from it at all in the actual elections.
 
2014-06-10 11:44:01 PM  

DamnYankees: It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.


Not enough laws for you? Perhaps they could work on adding even more insane complexity to the tax code and pleasantly surprise you.
 
2014-06-10 11:44:41 PM  

DamnYankees: HawgWild: Corpse isn't even cold, the actual November election hasn't even happened, but we might as well speculate now. Cuz, you know, for funzies ...

Elections for House Majority Leader could happen tomorrow if Cantor steps aside from the post, since he can't operate as a lame fark for the next 7 months. The leadership position requires leverage, and now he has none.

Better to know what you're talking about before you get all high and mighty.


You base your thought on an IF, and then have the gall to call me high and mighty?

Might want to think about that again, my friend ...
 
2014-06-10 11:44:43 PM  

Ambivalence: DamnYankees: Ambivalence: If the republicans get the senate you could count in MINUTES the ammount of time before the house starts impeachment proceedings.

How does taking the Senate make impeachment more likely? You need 2/3 of the Senate to convict, taking a majority doesn't do anything.

It's a fool who looks for logic in the chambers of a republican's mind.  Any idiot could tell them they had no upside to shutting down the government but they did it anyway and THEN tried to blame it on the president like he had any say in it.

Regardless of whether they would be successful, I can absolutely see them trying. Hell, just seeing what BS "crimes" they are going to pin on Obama would be entertaining enough.


Honestly, I'll be surprised if the list of "crimes" is spelled properly let alone make any kind of sense.

Though seeing "Wipes ass with Constution" entered into the public record record will make me chuckle and weep at the same time. Cheep? Weckle? Whatever.
 
2014-06-10 11:50:08 PM  

DamnYankees: Ambivalence: And you just know they're going to toss Boehner as speaker so, yah.

No they won't. They genuinely seem to like John Boehner, since he does his best to make everyone on his team happy despite accomplishing nothing at all. He's the Romeo Crennel of Congress.


Ha ha!  okay that's funny.  Who is this "they" you speak of?  Because it's not the republican caucus, or at least not enough of the republican caucus to keep him if he seems weak.
 
2014-06-10 11:51:42 PM  

Triumph: DamnYankees: It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.

Not enough laws for you? Perhaps they could work on adding even more insane complexity to the tax code and pleasantly surprise you.


At this point I've given up trying to distinguish sincere conservatism from a parody. I have fully submitted to Poe's law.
 
2014-06-10 11:51:45 PM  

DamnYankees: Although I should also say that the one thing which clearly could get worse is a real debt default forced by the Tea Party. So yeah, that would be worse.


I work for the government, but my position is funded by a source other than annual appropriations. So the last time the government shutdown my colleagues and I were forced to go to work while our managers received a free vacation, since they got the back pay once sh*t got settled.

It is all bullsh*t. My department is currently being reorganized like sh*t. I am already getting screwed, but if I get completely screwed then we'll be into quitting and memoir writing time.
 
2014-06-10 11:52:00 PM  
So... will Cantor trot?

/or not?
 
2014-06-10 11:56:13 PM  

Sid_6.7: DamnYankees: Although I should also say that the one thing which clearly could get worse is a real debt default forced by the Tea Party. So yeah, that would be worse.

I work for the government, but my position is funded by a source other than annual appropriations. So the last time the government shutdown my colleagues and I were forced to go to work while our managers received a free vacation, since they got the back pay once sh*t got settled.

It is all bullsh*t. My department is currently being reorganized like sh*t. I am already getting screwed, but if I get completely screwed then we'll be into quitting and memoir writing time.


It is really odd, the relationship between the GOP and the civil service. Everyone I've met who works for the government in a non-military capacity completely loathes Republicans, since Republicans basically demonize the hell out of them, say they are worthless moochers, and don't give two shiats about them. But then when the GOP wins the Presidency they have no choice but to work for them. It's odd.
 
2014-06-11 12:02:25 AM  

DamnYankees: It is really odd, the relationship between the GOP and the civil service. Everyone I've met who works for the government in a non-military capacity completely loathes Republicans, since Republicans basically demonize the hell out of them, say they are worthless moochers, and don't give two shiats about them. But then when the GOP wins the Presidency they have no choice but to work for them. It's odd.


Look at it this way, when the GOP wins the presidency, he has no choice but to LET them work for him.  That's the whole point of having a civil service that is immune to the fickle wims of the political pendulum.  They are professionals who work regardless of who gets elected.  It's more stable that way.
 
2014-06-11 12:11:56 AM  
Just heard Chuck Todd reporting that Boehner was planning to step down after these midterms. If he is still planning on doing that, the race for the next Speaker is just totally wide open.

Scary.
 
2014-06-11 12:19:36 AM  

DamnYankees: Just heard Chuck Todd reporting that Boehner was planning to step down after these midterms. If he is still planning on doing that, the race for the next Speaker is just totally wide open.

Scary.


I highly doubt he WAS planning.  He probably is now planning.
 
2014-06-11 12:32:16 AM  

DamnYankees: Just heard Chuck Todd reporting that Boehner was planning to step down after these midterms. If he is still planning on doing that, the race for the next Speaker is just totally wide open.

Scary.



On one hand, I don 't think he wants to leave the crazies running the asylum.

On the other hand, he's probably begging for the sweet release of political death.
 
2014-06-11 12:34:19 AM  
If the Tea Party captures the House Leadership, expect the Federal Government to pretty much shut down.

Bunch of dumbasses. Nobody understands how much the Federal Government does for them. From border protection and Defense Department to water and power and interstate commerce. F*ck Corporations and their attempt to force 'State's Rights'. That is Corporate code for 'easy to buy', I hope you know.
 
2014-06-11 12:41:21 AM  

Nadie_AZ: If the Tea Party captures the House Leadership, expect the Federal Government to pretty much shut down.

Bunch of dumbasses. Nobody understands how much the Federal Government does for them. From border protection and Defense Department to water and power and interstate commerce. F*ck Corporations and their attempt to force 'State's Rights'. That is Corporate code for 'easy to buy', I hope you know.


Wait until the first SS checks don't get sent

/I'm sure the shouts of joy will be heard across the land
//or three missed meals
///whichever comes first
 
2014-06-11 12:56:03 AM  

Ambivalence: If the republicans get the senate you could count in MINUTES the ammount of time before the house starts impeachment proceedings.


Let assume they have the votes in the House (which they don't) - they gain nothing by this action.  Especially since we would be entering Obama's last two years as President.
 
2014-06-11 12:57:41 AM  
OMG I just saw the news. THIS IS TOOO AWESOME. HAHAHAHAH CANTOR IS OUT!
 
2014-06-11 12:57:50 AM  

gingerjet: Ambivalence: If the republicans get the senate you could count in MINUTES the ammount of time before the house starts impeachment proceedings.

Let assume they have the votes in the House (which they don't) - they gain nothing by this action.  Especially since we would be entering Obama's last two years as President.


And your point is...?
 
2014-06-11 12:58:03 AM  
so does this mean cantor has to gargle a bag of dicks or does this mean he's able to shirk that responsibility

i slept through civics
 
2014-06-11 12:58:09 AM  

DamnYankees: It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.


GOOD
 
2014-06-11 12:58:20 AM  

Nadie_AZ: If the Tea Party captures the House Leadership, expect the Federal Government to pretty much shut down.

Bunch of dumbasses. Nobody understands how much the Federal Government does for them. From border protection and Defense Department to water and power and interstate commerce. F*ck Corporations and their attempt to force 'State's Rights'. That is Corporate code for 'easy to buy', I hope you know.


F*ck Reagan for saying garbage like "Government isn't the solution to our problems, government is the problem." and "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.'", basically encouraging an entire generation of anti-government imbeciles to get into government and screw it up.

This is Reagan's true legacy.
 
2014-06-11 12:59:24 AM  
House is wearing clown shoes and tooting horns along the way.  Will midterms reflect that?  Will it disrupt even Senate elections?
 
2014-06-11 12:59:42 AM  
www.giftwrappingair.com
 
2014-06-11 01:00:03 AM  

Nadie_AZ: If the Tea Party captures the House Leadership, expect the Federal Government to pretty much shut down.

Bunch of dumbasses. Nobody understands how much the Federal Government does for them. From border protection and Defense Department to water and power and interstate commerce. F*ck Corporations and their attempt to force 'State's Rights'. That is Corporate code for 'easy to buy', I hope you know.


It's a double-edged sword. Corporations also love sweet gov't lucre. A government shut down throws the world economy into a spin and then no more fun of any kind.
 
2014-06-11 01:00:18 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: DamnYankees: It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.

GOOD


Out of curiosity, why is this 'GOOD'?
 
2014-06-11 01:01:21 AM  

Soup4Bonnie: House is wearing clown shoes and tooting horns along the way.  Will midterms reflect that?  Will it disrupt even Senate elections?


they've worked out a deal with the roboticists and gotten ahold of a H.O.N.K. mech
 
2014-06-11 01:02:12 AM  

gingerjet: Ambivalence: If the republicans get the senate you could count in MINUTES the ammount of time before the house starts impeachment proceedings.

Let assume they have the votes in the House (which they don't) - they gain nothing by this action.  Especially since we would be entering Obama's last two years as President.


But, even if they were successful and assuming they don't intend on impeaching Biden, we would go into 2016 with an Incumbant Biden who could, conceivably, be elected to two more terms totalling 10 years as president which would (theorhetically) make him the longest serving president since FDR.

I would take Biden over Clinton.
 
2014-06-11 01:04:05 AM  

HawgWild: Corpse isn't even cold, the actual November election hasn't even happened, but we might as well speculate now. Cuz, you know, for funzies ...


This is the farking politics tab, not Miss Emily Post's Tearoom for Well Bred Young Ladies.

The fark do you think we talk about here?
 
2014-06-11 01:04:36 AM  

Testiclaw: B.L.Z. Bub: DamnYankees: It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.

GOOD

Out of curiosity, why is this 'GOOD'?


i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-11 01:04:52 AM  
Subby let's see if the GOP holds their majority before worrying about their new Majority leader.
 
2014-06-11 01:07:07 AM  

DamnYankees: It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.


Hillary Clinton is just unlikeable enough that the GOP will probably be in full control in 30 months. So... hooray, that stuff will get done, I guess?
 
2014-06-11 01:08:14 AM  

The Larch: DamnYankees: It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.

Hillary Clinton is just unlikeable enough that the GOP will probably be in full control in 30 months. So... hooray, that stuff will get done, I guess?


I think you underestimate how unlikeable the GOP is in the states that matter.
 
2014-06-11 01:08:56 AM  
He's not elected yet.
 
2014-06-11 01:10:55 AM  

sprawl15: Testiclaw: B.L.Z. Bub: DamnYankees: It's unclear how anything could get worse. Zero important legislation will happen until either the GOP takes the White House or the Dems take the House. There could be literally no major legislation for another 10 years.

GOOD

Out of curiosity, why is this 'GOOD'?

[i.imgur.com image 850x400]


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-06-11 01:11:22 AM  

Ambivalence: gingerjet: Ambivalence: If the republicans get the senate you could count in MINUTES the ammount of time before the house starts impeachment proceedings.

Let assume they have the votes in the House (which they don't) - they gain nothing by this action.  Especially since we would be entering Obama's last two years as President.

But, even if they were successful and assuming they don't intend on impeaching Biden, we would go into 2016 with an Incumbant Biden who could, conceivably, be elected to two more terms totalling 10 years as president which would (theorhetically) make him the longest serving president since FDR.

I would take Biden over Clinton.


You think the GOP would be looking that far ahead?

I don't think they would have as much of a problem with President Biden as they do with President Obama. This speculation has been brought to you by the letter N and by the elephant in the living room.
 
2014-06-11 01:17:13 AM  

sprawl15: i.imgur.com


I wonder how much Barry Goldwater wanted to kick Reagan's ass when he said that.
 
2014-06-11 01:17:32 AM  

King Something: You think the GOP would be looking that far ahead?

I don't think they would have as much of a problem with President Biden as they do with President Obama. This speculation has been brought to you by the letter N and by the elephant in the living room.


Yah, they had no problem with Clinton either.  Oh wait, he was impeached (unsuccessfully) too wasn't he?

Yes there is some angst about Obama's color, but they would attack anyone with a D next to their name.
 
2014-06-11 01:20:48 AM  
I don't think things are going to change all that much.  Cantor's loss is certainly a surprise, but I don't see it as some kind of grand paradigm shift.
 
2014-06-11 01:22:14 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Subby let's see if the GOP holds their majority before worrying about their new Majority leader.


I've been an increasingly (D)-leaning voter and contributor for a few years, still the only person on the block with an Obama bumper sticker, and as much as I'd like to see that happen, I think the odds are for the House staying solidly (R) and the senate being a toss-up, with my best guess being the (D)'s lose two or three seats.

On the other hand, if the senate did go (R), what fraction of a femtosecond would elapse before Fox/Limbaugh would be screaming for filibuster reform? There would be *some* lulz.
 
m00
2014-06-11 01:22:23 AM  
Cantor didn't loose because he wasn't "conservative enough." He lost because he was a business-as-usual establishment politician, former practicing lawyer, and real-estate developer. Right now Americans in general aren't particularly happy with any of those things.

The man who beat him is an economics professor at a local liberal arts college. It's true Dave Brat has conservative positions -- this is a Republican primary after all. But regardless of your political leanings, you don't get a PhD in economics by being dumb. I'd much rather have an economist (even one who subscribes to economic theories I disagree with) than a lawyer/real-estate developer representing me.
 
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