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(Fox News)   Former Colorado police officer convicted of killing trophy elk in case that ignited emotions. No word on how the elk got in the case   (foxnews.com) divider line 51
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DAR [TotalFark]
2014-06-10 05:46:17 PM  
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The proud hunter with his kill ...... asshole......
 
2014-06-10 05:48:17 PM  
"The killing sparked intense protests in the college town of Boulder, where the shooting sparked prayer vigils and at least one tribute song. "

It should have sparked a BBQ instead.
 
2014-06-10 05:53:01 PM  
Boulder is weird.  You can kill a person and no one will ever catch you (see Jonbennet Ramsay) but you kill an elk and you can kiss your future goodbye.
 
2014-06-10 05:55:27 PM  
unlawful use of an electronic communication device to unlawfully take wildlife

That's an oddly specific law.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2014-06-10 06:44:36 PM  

reported: unlawful use of an electronic communication device to unlawfully take wildlife

That's an oddly specific law.


No hand held radios allowed to hunt game (I'd guess)........
 
2014-06-10 06:46:14 PM  

DAR: The proud hunter with his kill ...... asshole......


Asshole isn't nearly strong enough to describe this guy.
 
2014-06-10 06:47:10 PM  
They arrested him in case that ignited emotions?  Shouldn't they have waited to see if it actually ignited emotions or not?
 
2014-06-10 06:58:38 PM  

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2014-06-10 08:44:14 PM  

syrynxx: They arrested him in case that ignited emotions?  Shouldn't they have waited to see if it actually ignited emotions or not?


I didn't think emotions were flammable, but has been a long time since high school chemistry
 
2014-06-10 08:46:44 PM  

UberDave: "The killing sparked intense protests in the college town of Boulder, where the shooting sparked prayer vigils and at least one tribute song. "

It should have sparked a BBQ instead.


Seems kinda south parkish
 
2014-06-10 08:49:45 PM  
That's 2/3 of a trophy elk, missing a lot of horn to be considered a "trophy" animal
 
2014-06-10 08:50:27 PM  
Drew, can you suspend the filter for this thread? Because fark this guy
 
2014-06-10 08:51:04 PM  
"I saw on this nature show how the male elk douses himself with urine to smell sweeter to the opposite sex. What a coincidence!" - Jack Handey
 
2014-06-10 08:58:50 PM  
Not harsh enough punishment but it's a good start.
 
2014-06-10 09:00:26 PM  
Carter argued that the elk had become dangerously domesticated and aggressive.


How many reports of it be aggressive have been filed?


Witnesses who testified on behalf of the elk said the sight of the hulking animal was a highlight on countless hikes and jogs.


This leads me to believe the answer is "None".
 
2014-06-10 09:04:39 PM  
Guy is an asshole, but prayer vigils? For an Elk? It's friggin meat. Lets start having prayer vigils for the millions of slaughtered cows. Weirdos.

Yet another cop that thinks he can get away with anything cuz he's a cop. Sadly, he probably would have had better luck getting away with shooting a person. Fish and game, pretty much in any state, doesn't mess around with poaching, no matter who you are. He's lucky he didn't shoot something federally protected or regulated.
 
2014-06-10 09:06:50 PM  
The case here was about more than an elk, it's about a cop unplugging his patrol car GPS, hunting within city limits, shooting toward houses, and not reporting his shooting to his dispatch.  He was a dirty cop, and if he didn't go down on this he'd go down for some more Training Day-like shiat.
 
2014-06-10 09:09:35 PM  
It's a cop and an ex-cop being charged. Any of us would do more time than they will for a jaywalking ticket.
 
2014-06-10 09:10:38 PM  

Ihaveanevilparrot: Yet another cop that thinks he can get away with anything cuz he's a cop.


He hasn't been sentenced yet.  His accomplice got sixty days home detention and kept his job.  Do you really think Carter will get worse?
 
2014-06-10 09:12:52 PM  
As a game warden, I can attest that we don't take too kindly to officers poaching.
 
2014-06-10 09:19:02 PM  
It's coming right for us!... and you're good to go.

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2014-06-10 09:20:50 PM  
Jeebus H Christ, there's more people upset about a cop killing an elk in this thread than you would see in a thread about a cop killing a person. The elk is even personalized. Poor elk, minding his own business eating beneath a crabapple tree. Give me a break. I would bet this same cop who shot the elk has complaints against him from citizens alleging abuse yet nothing happened. It would be interesting to find out what's in his personnel file.
 
2014-06-10 09:28:45 PM  

fnordfocus: Ihaveanevilparrot: Yet another cop that thinks he can get away with anything cuz he's a cop.

He hasn't been sentenced yet.  His accomplice got sixty days home detention and kept his job.  Do you really think Carter will get worse?


He was convicted on nine charges, at least one of which is a felony.  Pretty sure there's some kind of guideline that prevents police from hiring convicted felons.

Wait, four felonies.
 
2014-06-10 09:30:27 PM  
Carter argued that the elk had become dangerously domesticated and aggressive.

Aren't those two states sorta mutually exclusive?
 
2014-06-10 09:31:44 PM  
Now, why the hell is sending a cop to prison a "complex issue?"
 
2014-06-10 09:35:12 PM  

fusillade762: Carter argued that the elk had become dangerously domesticated and aggressive.

Aren't those two states sorta mutually exclusive?


Nope.  "Can I please have some food?" vs "FEED ME NOW, ASSHOLE!"
 
2014-06-10 09:35:23 PM  

astro716: The case here was about more than an elk, it's about a cop unplugging his patrol car GPS, hunting within city limits, shooting toward houses, and not reporting his shooting to his dispatch.  He was a dirty cop, and if he didn't go down on this he'd go down for some more Training Day-like shiat.


It might be wise to take a look at other cases he was involved with; allegations of his abuse may be true.

question_dj: Now, why the hell is sending a cop to prison a "complex issue?"


He's crooked and gotten away with it for awhile. He's got enemies in there and has a foreseeable 'situation' if he is released among them?
 
2014-06-10 09:35:51 PM  

fusillade762: Carter argued that the elk had become dangerously domesticated and aggressive.

Aren't those two states sorta mutually exclusive?


Isn't this what happens when people get married?
 
2014-06-10 09:37:52 PM  

astro716: The case here was about more than an elk, it's about a cop unplugging his patrol car GPS, hunting within city limits, shooting toward houses, and not reporting his shooting to his dispatch.  He was a dirty cop, and if he didn't go down on this he'd go down for some more Training Day-like shiat.


Yeah, the killing the elk was a damn shame, but I thought the focus of the outrage was that this ahole was doing his big-game routine in a freaking *neighborhood*.  With houses, and sidewalks, and people etc.  And then the ludicrous efforts to cover it all up.  WTF was this idiot thinking?

This bunch of fools sounded worthy of Chicago.
 
2014-06-10 09:38:31 PM  

UberDave: "The killing sparked intense protests in the college town of Boulder, where the shooting sparked prayer vigils and at least one tribute song. "

It should have sparked a BBQ instead.


That sentence was, far and away, my favorite part of the article.
 
rka
2014-06-10 09:39:18 PM  

Ihaveanevilparrot: Guy is an asshole, but prayer vigils? For an Elk? It's friggin meat. Lets start having prayer vigils for the millions of slaughtered cows. Weirdos.

Yet another cop that thinks he can get away with anything cuz he's a cop. Sadly, he probably would have had better luck getting away with shooting a person. Fish and game, pretty much in any state, doesn't mess around with poaching, no matter who you are. He's lucky he didn't shoot something federally protected or regulated.


Vigils for an elk are not even the weirdest thing in Boulder. Not by a long shot.
 
2014-06-10 09:39:23 PM  
I hate hunting, but c'mon...a prayer vigil for an elk? Jesus.
 
2014-06-10 09:39:54 PM  

Ambivalence: Boulder is weird.  You can kill a person and no one will ever catch you (see Jonbennet Ramsay) but you kill an elk and you can kiss your future goodbye.


Not really that weird at all just considering these 2 cases.

They farked up the Jon Benet Ramsey case.  Somebody killed her.  I don't know who, but they apparently committed the perfect crime because they've never been caught.

Then years later one of their incompetent officers saw an easy opportunity to kill an elk and he took the shot.

Boulder is a bit weird for other reasons besides their cops, but keep it in perspective.

20 years ago the cops got away with this shiat.  This cop got arrogant and IIRC posted pictures of him with his "kill" on social media.

At least he was convicted on 9 charges.  That's pretty impressive.  I'm not sure how it's not just a couple of charges.

And 6 years?   Wow, I feel safer now.  I'd say give him a year with strict probation.  This shiat is a waste of money.

Make him do community service which entails sucking the teats of a mama elk and spitting the milk into a bucket and see how many times he gets kicked in the head - for research purposes of course.  That could count towards community service.
 
2014-06-10 09:42:42 PM  
Trophy hunters get some kind of mind numbing fever that renders them unable to use common sense.

In my state I have seen guys shoot a deer with a trophy rack within feet of a child's swingset.

Bend any rule, break the law, just to get a picture of a trophy for bragging.   Or mount.

Sad actually.
 
2014-06-10 09:43:53 PM  
But was there an elephant in pajamas?
 
2014-06-10 10:04:30 PM  
Sounds like a corrupt cop. They were probably just waiting for some good dirt on him and it's a good thing hunting laws are so strict because thus one's going to sting.
 
2014-06-10 10:07:09 PM  

fusillade762: Aren't those two states sorta mutually exclusive?


Domesticated in this case just means it's used to being in town and around people.
 
2014-06-10 10:11:27 PM  

astro716: The case here was about more than an elk, it's about a cop unplugging his patrol car GPS, hunting within city limits, shooting toward houses, and not reporting his shooting to his dispatch.  He was a dirty cop, and if he didn't go down on this he'd go down for some more Training Day-like shiat.


This. Plus, the elk was well known and regarded as a sort of a mascot for the neighborhood.  Nimrod was 1 -  probably aware it wasn't a dangerous animal 2 - shiatting on a neihgborhood who regarded Bullwinkle's cousin as a feature, not a bug.
 
2014-06-10 10:12:42 PM  

fnordfocus: Ihaveanevilparrot: Yet another cop that thinks he can get away with anything cuz he's a cop.

He hasn't been sentenced yet.  His accomplice got sixty days home detention and kept his job.  Do you really think Carter will get worse?


He's a felon now, so he loses his POST certificate. So he cannot keep his job.
 
2014-06-10 10:15:04 PM  

skinink: Jeebus H Christ, there's more people upset about a cop killing an elk in this thread than you would see in a thread about a cop killing a person. The elk is even personalized. Poor elk, minding his own business eating beneath a crabapple tree. Give me a break. I would bet this same cop who shot the elk has complaints against him from citizens alleging abuse yet nothing happened. It would be interesting to find out what's in his personnel file.


It's more that he decided to hunt in the suburbs on the clock and then lie about it (and get a buddy to help cover it up) than the Elk itself.
 
2014-06-10 10:26:51 PM  
I believe that cops need to be held to a standard higher than that of the citizen, since they hold power of life and death over citizens.  In this case, I'm close enough to have followed case.  As usual, it was not the crime, but the cover-up that did these two cops - both were officers, neither will EVER serve in the police capacity again.  And I say Good Riddance, and Good Day, Sir!
 
2014-06-10 10:53:50 PM  
The night before that he shot an elephant in his pajamas..

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2014-06-10 10:59:39 PM  
We just lost another good cop because an elk lied.
 
2014-06-10 11:34:00 PM  
He's a bullying official liar who would rough-up or arrest or kill you grandma then suborn his buddies to perjure themselves by covering for him - knowing the courts officially presume the truth of officers' testimony over that of their citizen employers.

Submergence in pig dung for 60 days.
 
2014-06-11 12:21:14 AM  
That "domesticated" elk reminds me of a story a coworker told of going on his first buffalo hunt. They supposedly had a guarantee of a kill, and when they got out on the ranch, the buffalo just ambled up to the hunters, expecting to be fed or petted. My friend said it gave him bad dreams for weeks, having to back up from the animal, so he could raise his rifle and dispatch it. Here in Albuquerque, we have lots of hunters going for elk. Only a 6 hour drive or so to Denver. Right up I-25.
 
2014-06-11 12:22:02 AM  
That "domesticated" elk reminds me of a story a coworker told of going on his first buffalo hunt. They supposedly had a guarantee of a kill, and when they got out on the ranch, the buffalo just ambled up to the hunters, expecting to be fed or petted. My friend said it gave him bad dreams for weeks, having to back up from the animal, so he could raise his rifle and dispatch it. Here in Albuquerque, we have lots of hunters going for elk. Only a 6 hour drive or so to Denver. Right up I-25.
Lost his "POST"? Power on Self Test?
 
2014-06-11 12:29:34 AM  
Only reason he got arrested and charged was because of bad press and feds involvement.

That is FAR from a trophy elk by any standard.

Dangerously domesticated= not afraid of people which it should be.

Aggressive = Not afraid of you now feed me or GTFO.

The asshat is a poacher and he should get the maximum in every possible way.
 
2014-06-11 03:17:49 AM  

syrynxx: They arrested him in case that ignited emotions?  Shouldn't they have waited to see if it actually ignited emotions or not?


It involved arson?
 
2014-06-11 05:37:01 AM  

Ex-Texan: That "domesticated" elk reminds me of a story a coworker told of going on his first buffalo hunt. They supposedly had a guarantee of a kill, and when they got out on the ranch, the buffalo just ambled up to the hunters, expecting to be fed or petted. My friend said it gave him bad dreams for weeks, having to back up from the animal, so he could raise his rifle and dispatch it. Here in Albuquerque, we have lots of hunters going for elk. Only a 6 hour drive or so to Denver. Right up I-25.


I read similar stories of "hunters" shooting tigers locked in trailers. I don't get it. A 5 year old could do it. Why would that be worth bragging about?
 
2014-06-11 07:26:28 AM  

Ambivalence: Boulder is weird.  You can kill a person and no one will ever catch you (see Jonbennet Ramsay) but you kill an elk and you can kiss your future goodbye.


I always thought her brother did it.
 
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