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2014-06-10 07:05:03 PM
Throw the book at the one with the goatee
 
2014-06-10 08:06:22 PM
yada yada responsible gun owner yada yada.
 
2014-06-10 08:07:56 PM

BumpInTheNight: yada yada responsible gun owner yada yada.


glad you agree.
 
2014-06-10 08:09:36 PM

BumpInTheNight: yada yada responsible gun owner yada yada.


This took place in the projects. I doubt the NRA will be sticking up for them.
 
2014-06-10 08:10:10 PM
More examples of how responsible all those gun owners are
 
2014-06-10 08:12:08 PM
And this will get written off as "just an accident."

Parents who leave their guns loaded and in a place where toddlers can get to them deserve to be given jail time.

"I didn't think the kid could get to it," and "I didn't know it was loaded" are not acceptable excuses.
 
2014-06-10 08:12:19 PM
The only way to stop a bad 3-year-old is a good 3-year-old with a gun....gah. Not funny.
 
2014-06-10 08:14:23 PM

HotWingAgenda: BumpInTheNight: yada yada responsible gun owner yada yada.

This took place in the projects. I doubt the NRA will be sticking up for them.


Are you suggesting that they have situational principles?
 
2014-06-10 08:14:37 PM
Hope he's well.
 
2014-06-10 08:15:16 PM
"After that I just threw down my gun, turned around, and walked away. Little bastard shot me in the ass."

-Good 3 year old.
 
2014-06-10 08:15:17 PM

stoli n coke: And this will get written off as "just an accident."

Parents who leave their guns loaded and in a place where toddlers can get to them deserve to be given jail time.

"I didn't think the kid could get to it," and "I didn't know it was loaded" are not acceptable excuses.


child negligence at the least
 
2014-06-10 08:15:18 PM
I'm sorry, why is this tagged 'old boys' and 'Minnesota Twins'? Anyone else see that under the headline, or was it really just that long of a day?
 
2014-06-10 08:19:42 PM
quick,
shoot the other one in the ass so you still can't tell them apart.
 
2014-06-10 08:20:31 PM

LazyMedia: The only way to stop a bad 3-year-old is a good 3-year-old with a gun....gah. Not funny.


becoming a bit hackneyed at this point, right up there with "We need to ban *random unharmful item* now, right libs?"

 still... somebody's gotta post it or it wouldn't be a real message board, lol
 
2014-06-10 08:21:31 PM
We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.
 
2014-06-10 08:23:55 PM

Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.


Problem is, any time you propose ANY type of regulation or penalties, half the gun owning population acts like you just raped baby Jesus with a crying eagle right in front of Elvis' and Dale's mama.
 
2014-06-10 08:24:00 PM
The other little boy was taken from the scene by an adult before police arrived. Police are still looking for the weapon used in the shooting.

The 3 year old probably gave it to his baba mama to hide
 
2014-06-10 08:24:21 PM

LazerFish: LazyMedia: The only way to stop a bad 3-year-old is a good 3-year-old with a gun....gah. Not funny.

becoming a bit hackneyed at this point, right up there with "We need to ban *random unharmful item* now, right libs?"

 still... somebody's gotta post it or it wouldn't be a real message board, lol


And white knighting irresponsible gun ownership seems to complete the circle.
 
2014-06-10 08:29:22 PM

stoli n coke: Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.

Problem is, any time you propose ANY type of regulation or penalties, half the gun owning population acts like you just raped baby Jesus with a crying eagle right in front of Elvis' and Dale's mama.


that is kinda the funny part.

No one is coming for the guns, they are giving them away.

I said it in the other thread, biometric locks seem to be the only way to go. It is not foolproof, but it is better than nothing. As I said there as well, three wrong trys and it explodes. If it is a kid (like this situation) then the parents get charged with murder. It is time to let the penalties match the responsibilities.

That being said, I am guessing this gun will never be recovered...
 
2014-06-10 08:31:16 PM

stoli n coke: Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.

Problem is, any time you propose ANY type of regulation or penalties, half the gun owning population acts like you just raped baby Jesus with a crying eagle right in front of Elvis' and Dale's mama.


Oh, I don't know, the whole "penalties" thing is really pretty popular with the "no gun control" crowd. I've heard plenty of harsh suggestions the last couple of days regarding what to do with the mother in the recent case I cited. I'm guessing she would probably line up for the worst society offers about now, what with the guilt and all.

Disclaimer: I'm a gun owner myself, I mean c'mon, I live in Missouri, I think it's a requirement here.
 
2014-06-10 08:34:11 PM
This is the Liberal's fault!

For not taking guns away fast enough.  Every day causes more deaths.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-06-10 08:35:47 PM

BumpInTheNight: yada yada responsible gun owner yada yada.


No. That's glib and stupid.
Place the "parents" in jail. For a very long time.
And sterilize them. They are awful people and worse "parents".
 
2014-06-10 08:39:00 PM

gja: BumpInTheNight: yada yada responsible gun owner yada yada.

No. That's glib and stupid.
Place the "parents" in jail. For a very long time.
And sterilize them. They are awful people and worse "parents".


Aaaand thank you! My point proved within two posts.
 
2014-06-10 08:39:21 PM

Dadburns: stoli n coke: Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.

Problem is, any time you propose ANY type of regulation or penalties, half the gun owning population acts like you just raped baby Jesus with a crying eagle right in front of Elvis' and Dale's mama.

Oh, I don't know, the whole "penalties" thing is really pretty popular with the "no gun control" crowd. I've heard plenty of harsh suggestions the last couple of days regarding what to do with the mother in the recent case I cited. I'm guessing she would probably line up for the worst society offers about now, what with the guilt and all.

Disclaimer: I'm a gun owner myself, I mean c'mon, I live in Missouri, I think it's a requirement here.


I live in Texas. We set the bar for "accidental shootings." People like to talk tough about penalties, but whenever it happens to someone they know, it can't be brushed off fast enough.
 
2014-06-10 08:42:54 PM

stoli n coke: Dadburns: stoli n coke: Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.

Problem is, any time you propose ANY type of regulation or penalties, half the gun owning population acts like you just raped baby Jesus with a crying eagle right in front of Elvis' and Dale's mama.

Oh, I don't know, the whole "penalties" thing is really pretty popular with the "no gun control" crowd. I've heard plenty of harsh suggestions the last couple of days regarding what to do with the mother in the recent case I cited. I'm guessing she would probably line up for the worst society offers about now, what with the guilt and all.

Disclaimer: I'm a gun owner myself, I mean c'mon, I live in Missouri, I think it's a requirement here.

I live in Texas. We set the bar for "accidental shootings." People like to talk tough about penalties, but whenever it happens to someone they know, it can't be brushed off fast enough.


Oh, Texas.... so you're a state-required gun owner too? lol
 
2014-06-10 08:43:02 PM
But he was a good boy. Took his mama to church every Sunday.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-06-10 08:43:27 PM

Dadburns: gja: BumpInTheNight: yada yada responsible gun owner yada yada.

No. That's glib and stupid.
Place the "parents" in jail. For a very long time.
And sterilize them. They are awful people and worse "parents".

Aaaand thank you! My point proved within two posts.


What point? You haven't posted.
Unless your point is that there is no way these miscreants should be considered anything but failures at be responsible in ANY way, shape or form.
 
2014-06-10 08:46:28 PM

gja: Dadburns: gja: BumpInTheNight: yada yada responsible gun owner yada yada.

No. That's glib and stupid.
Place the "parents" in jail. For a very long time.
And sterilize them. They are awful people and worse "parents".

Aaaand thank you! My point proved within two posts.

What point? You haven't posted.
Unless your point is that there is no way these miscreants should be considered anything but failures at be responsible in ANY way, shape or form.


Ehem... the "point" was two posts above yours re: "penalties"
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-06-10 08:47:55 PM

Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.


You filter them out with background screening and tough laws. And make it clear that you WILL get your ass in jail for screwing up.
Like here in NY. The laws here will wreck your life for crap like this. And rightfully so.
 
2014-06-10 08:48:11 PM
Good, Bad. I'm the 3 year old with the gun.

/got nothing
//wore out all my gun rage in the other thread.
 
2014-06-10 08:48:33 PM

Piizzadude: It is time to let the penalties match the responsibilities.


This.

Whoever left that gun where a 3 year old could get to it needs to be held responsible for that.
 
2014-06-10 08:51:23 PM
Obviously we need more guns.

That has become crystal clear to me over the course of the past 10 days.

The answer is undoubtedly more guns, not fewer.
 
2014-06-10 08:53:34 PM
False Flag!!!!!!
Harry Reid!!!!!!
BENGHAAAAAAAZZZZZZZIIIIIII!
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-06-10 08:58:58 PM

asquian: Good, Bad. I'm the 3 year old with the gun.

/got nothing
//wore out all my gun rage in the other thread.


asquian: Good, Bad. I'm the 3 year old with the gun.

/got nothing
//wore out all my gun rage in the other thread.


Agrees:
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-06-10 09:00:50 PM
Dad probably sits in the living room waving his gun around every night, making the kids aware of it and then the kids want to be like daddy and wave the gun around...very sad.
 
2014-06-10 09:05:05 PM

gja: Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.

You filter them out with background screening and tough laws. And make it clear that you WILL get your ass in jail for screwing up.
Like here in NY. The laws here will wreck your life for crap like this. And rightfully so.


Well, I am impressed to see that you are for gun control: "background screening"  How about waiting periods too? Mandatory trigger locks? Oh, and I checked New York continues to have plenty of gun crime even with the harsh penalties.. and thanks for "making my point" regarding the popularity of penalties, I would call "sterilization" pretty out there. lol
 
2014-06-10 09:05:21 PM

steadyb: Dad probably sits in the living room waving his gun around every night, making the kids aware of it and then the kids want to be like daddy and wave the gun around...very sad.


No, he probably put it in a nightstand and forgot all about it until he heard the bang and screams.  Not that it's any better.

Or he knew damn well it was there and smugly thought that his kids would never go in his room or touch it.

Either way all their lives are changed forever.
 
2014-06-10 09:06:07 PM
media.ifunny.com
 
2014-06-10 09:18:30 PM
Treat unsecured firearms, unregistered firearms and stolen firearms as their weight in pot and sentence accordingly.
 
2014-06-10 09:22:08 PM

Dadburns: gja: Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.

You filter them out with background screening and tough laws. And make it clear that you WILL get your ass in jail for screwing up.
Like here in NY. The laws here will wreck your life for crap like this. And rightfully so.

Well, I am impressed to see that you are for gun control: "background screening"  How about waiting periods too? Mandatory trigger locks? Oh, and I checked New York continues to have plenty of gun crime even with the harsh penalties.. and thanks for "making my point" regarding the popularity of penalties, I would call "sterilization" pretty out there. lol


Background screenings - Yes

Waiting periods - Pointless most people buying guns already have one or more and it won't effect negligence like this.

Trigger Locks - Meh, you can make someone buy one but you can't make them use it and the penalty will be minor.  That and not using one will only be known after a tragedy that should carry a penalty that makes the trigger lock penalty a pittance.  Like a seat belt violation after a fatal drunk driving accident.  So I don't see that as being effective.

What we need is very serious penalties for negligence like this.
 
2014-06-10 09:23:39 PM

Colour_out_of_Space: Treat unsecured firearms, unregistered firearms and stolen firearms as their weight in pot and sentence accordingly.


Now that's inventive! I'd put that one above an earlier suggestion involving "sterilization". You know, you might have something there; our courts are really experienced in drug offense sentencing and that has worked out well.
 
2014-06-10 09:26:31 PM

Dadburns: Colour_out_of_Space: Treat unsecured firearms, unregistered firearms and stolen firearms as their weight in pot and sentence accordingly.

Now that's inventive! I'd put that one above an earlier suggestion involving "sterilization". You know, you might have something there; our courts are really experienced in drug offense sentencing and that has worked out well.


The only problem with the suggestion is that few states maintain any firearm registry, meaning that most legally possessed firearms are unregistered.
 
2014-06-10 09:30:26 PM

Callous: Dadburns: gja: Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.

You filter them out with background screening and tough laws. And make it clear that you WILL get your ass in jail for screwing up.
Like here in NY. The laws here will wreck your life for crap like this. And rightfully so.

Well, I am impressed to see that you are for gun control: "background screening"  How about waiting periods too? Mandatory trigger locks? Oh, and I checked New York continues to have plenty of gun crime even with the harsh penalties.. and thanks for "making my point" regarding the popularity of penalties, I would call "sterilization" pretty out there. lol

Background screenings - Yes

Waiting periods - Pointless most people buying guns already have one or more and it won't effect negligence like this.

Trigger Locks - Meh, you can make someone buy one but you can't make them use it and the penalty will be minor.  That and not using one will only be known after a tragedy that should carry a penalty that makes the trigger lock penalty a pittance.  Like a seat belt violation after a fatal drunk driving accident.  So I don't see that as being effective.

What we need is very serious penalties for negligence like this.


OK... another gun control proponent (lite) with an extra helping of penalties... are you signing on for sterilization or gun_weight/convert/drug_charges?
I think we're getting somewhere on this as more people step up for gun control.
 
2014-06-10 09:41:43 PM
Nobody really gives a shiat  the people  live in the projects they are poor and not very bootstrappy.
They are a liability to society
Forgotten by tomorrow except for when the Police  get the OT check and go buy another dirtbike or jetski
Then they chuckle

Also, nuke the parents, I"m sorry, woman and her boyfriend from space, it"s the only way to be sure.
 
2014-06-10 09:45:39 PM
The 3-year-old learned about our polite society.
 
2014-06-10 09:48:25 PM

Dimensio: Dadburns: Colour_out_of_Space: Treat unsecured firearms, unregistered firearms and stolen firearms as their weight in pot and sentence accordingly.

Now that's inventive! I'd put that one above an earlier suggestion involving "sterilization". You know, you might have something there; our courts are really experienced in drug offense sentencing and that has worked out well.

The only problem with the suggestion is that few states maintain any firearm registry, meaning that most legally possessed firearms are unregistered.


Oooh I like your thinking! Retroactive gun registration! Yeah, get 'em all on a list! Couple that with background checks per gja and Callous suggestions and I think we may be heading in the right direction... though I'm still not sure about the whole "harshly punish stupid/negligent/criminal people out of existence after their kids die" we may have more of them than they have kids.
 
2014-06-10 09:53:42 PM
Sorry all, I kind of shiat on this thread... I'm just really tired of reading this kind of story.

I will go away now.
 
2014-06-10 09:56:17 PM
Picture of the two in happier times...


s10.postimg.org
 
2014-06-10 09:57:04 PM

Dadburns: Callous: Dadburns: gja: Dadburns: We had a similar incident here in my home town just last week. A three year old girl died.... sad, sad, sad. I note a "responsible gun owner" comment already posted... and I'm all for the responsible gun owners... but how do we cull the irresponsible ones out before the tragedies rather than after?

Yeah, I know, "slippery slope" "freedom" etc etc and little ones keep dying.

You filter them out with background screening and tough laws. And make it clear that you WILL get your ass in jail for screwing up.
Like here in NY. The laws here will wreck your life for crap like this. And rightfully so.

Well, I am impressed to see that you are for gun control: "background screening"  How about waiting periods too? Mandatory trigger locks? Oh, and I checked New York continues to have plenty of gun crime even with the harsh penalties.. and thanks for "making my point" regarding the popularity of penalties, I would call "sterilization" pretty out there. lol

Background screenings - Yes

Waiting periods - Pointless most people buying guns already have one or more and it won't effect negligence like this.

Trigger Locks - Meh, you can make someone buy one but you can't make them use it and the penalty will be minor.  That and not using one will only be known after a tragedy that should carry a penalty that makes the trigger lock penalty a pittance.  Like a seat belt violation after a fatal drunk driving accident.  So I don't see that as being effective.

What we need is very serious penalties for negligence like this.

OK... another gun control proponent (lite) with an extra helping of penalties... are you signing on for sterilization or gun_weight/convert/drug_charges?
I think we're getting somewhere on this as more people step up for gun control.


I'm not for gun control as much as I'm for holding people responsible for their actions with stiff penalties.  Let 'em own whatever they want.  Nail them to the wall when they hurt or endanger someone else.
 
2014-06-10 10:30:06 PM
Check that kid's Facebook likes!
 
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