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(Sum Guy)   Chicago Public Schools prom slogan: 'This Is Are Story'   (eagnews.org) divider line 182
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2014-06-10 11:56:20 AM  
Four out of 10 CPS freshmen do not graduate.
If they do graduate, 91 percent have to take remediation courses in college because they do not know how to do basic math and school work. Just 26 percent of CPS high school students are college-ready, according to the ACT subject matter tests.
Students in these schools whose families can't afford an alternative are trapped in classrooms that, for the most part, aren't equipping them to succeed in the future.
But while CPS students get left behind, their teachers receive generous compensation.
The average CPS teacher salary is $76,000. The last contract negotiations in 2012 gave CPS teachers 17 percent raises over three years.


Let's pay the teachers more.
 
2014-06-10 12:18:32 PM  
Perhaps teacher salaries needed to be raised to attract better teachers to the district?

If you're lowering teacher wages, you're definitely trying to make sure than any decent teacher goes elsewhere.
 
2014-06-10 12:21:42 PM  

SphericalTime: Perhaps teacher salaries needed to be raised to attract better teachers to the district?

If you're lowering teacher wages, you're definitely trying to make sure than any decent teacher goes elsewhere.


While the idea is certainly laudable, and I agree teachers are woefully underpaid, you'll have to get rid of the idiots currently teaching in these schools. Paying idiots more money doesn't make them enlightened. It just makes them highly-paid idiots. It reaffirms and perpetuates their idiocy. And good luck clearing out the current crop of idiots since they have a very politically powerful union that will prevent you from doing just that. But, if you can find a way to clear out the idiots, and get some good teachers in there, by all means find a way to do it, and pay them appropriately.
 
2014-06-10 12:22:09 PM  
And yet homeschoolers are mocked and berated and told that their kids should be in public school with morons like these.
 
2014-06-10 12:23:33 PM  
Is Are Kids Learnings?
 
2014-06-10 12:37:48 PM  
I weep for are future.
 
2014-06-10 12:46:07 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: I weep for are future.


Future? I weep for are present.
 
2014-06-10 01:02:41 PM  

Walker: Eddie Adams from Torrance: I weep for are future.

Future? I weep for are present.


Are present?

Thanks, Omaha!
 
2014-06-10 01:08:11 PM  
It's what they axed for
 
2014-06-10 01:24:53 PM  

Nabb1: SphericalTime: Perhaps teacher salaries needed to be raised to attract better teachers to the district?

If you're lowering teacher wages, you're definitely trying to make sure than any decent teacher goes elsewhere.

While the idea is certainly laudable, and I agree teachers are woefully underpaid, you'll have to get rid of the idiots currently teaching in these schools. Paying idiots more money doesn't make them enlightened. It just makes them highly-paid idiots. It reaffirms and perpetuates their idiocy. And good luck clearing out the current crop of idiots since they have a very politically powerful union that will prevent you from doing just that. But, if you can find a way to clear out the idiots, and get some good teachers in there, by all means find a way to do it, and pay them appropriately.


Teachers are half (if that) of the problem.

I'd bet that in the majority of cases, the students who are successful in that system have involved parents.
 
2014-06-10 01:35:22 PM  

Delawheredad: And yet homeschoolers are mocked and berated and told that their kids should be in public school with morons like these.


If so many homeschoolers weren't being homeschooled because Jesus is more important than facts, you might have a point.
 
2014-06-10 01:53:54 PM  

Nabb1: SphericalTime: Perhaps teacher salaries needed to be raised to attract better teachers to the district?

If you're lowering teacher wages, you're definitely trying to make sure than any decent teacher goes elsewhere.

While the idea is certainly laudable, and I agree teachers are woefully underpaid, you'll have to get rid of the idiots currently teaching in these schools. Paying idiots more money doesn't make them enlightened. It just makes them highly-paid idiots. It reaffirms and perpetuates their idiocy. And good luck clearing out the current crop of idiots since they have a very politically powerful union that will prevent you from doing just that. But, if you can find a way to clear out the idiots, and get some good teachers in there, by all means find a way to do it, and pay them appropriately.


Part of the problem of saying "get better teachers in there" is that we as a culture don't really seem to want to do that. We allow third rate diploma mills to award teaching degrees to people who probably never had any business going to college in the first place, and those people gravitate to the big districts where volume often necessitates a lowering of standards. TFA and the like with the 2 and out model of teaching is no better, because most research indicates that teachers can't really develop into sound instructional practitioners in that amount of time, especially not after only a summer program of training. Add to that the fact that nationwide there is a push to cut teacher pay (part of a more general belief that jobs that have some seeming intrinsic value should be paid less because they are inherently rewarding), and you're not going to get better people on the job.

Chicago is actually fairly progressive about keeping out bad teachers - you can be barred from teaching anywhere in the district ever again if your initial evaluations are low, and during the recent contract negotiations the union fought for and won a provision requiring the central office to actually establish a screening process to weed out really bad potential teachers before they ever got a place in a classroom. I actually think that evaluation bit goes a little too far, because it places too much power in the hands of one supervisor, but that's another discussion.
 
2014-06-10 02:53:19 PM  

Delawheredad: And yet homeschoolers are mocked and berated and told that their kids should be in public school with morons like these.


What our you talking about?
 
2014-06-10 03:13:35 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Delawheredad: And yet homeschoolers are mocked and berated and told that their kids should be in public school with morons like these.

What our you talking about?


i169.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-10 03:14:31 PM  
Prom KING

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-06-10 03:15:31 PM  
What was that crap about phonetics again? Oh yeah, hooked on phonics.

Friggin ruined spelling bees for local kids. Now the grammar knot sees will have plenty of fodder.
 
2014-06-10 03:16:52 PM  
My brother is a teacher in the Chicago public school system. I make fun of him when stories like this come out, but the truth is that it's a job I certainly don't have the patience or balls to do. The last time I talked to him, he was staying after school to let a kid take a make-up test. The kid had missed the original test because he was in court testifying against his uncle, who killed the kid's dad at his birthday party. Most of his students have more important things to cope with than spelling and grammar.
 
2014-06-10 03:17:06 PM  

Donnchadha: Is Are Kids Learnings?


Who axed you?
 
2014-06-10 03:17:32 PM  

GRCooper: I'd bet that in the majority of cases, the students who are successful in that system have involved parents.


That's what Colin Powell has said for YEARS!
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-10 03:17:41 PM  
If you ever want to weep for America, go to world star hip hop and read the comments in any thread. Shiat makes Farkers look like a bunch of erudite scholars.
 
2014-06-10 03:18:13 PM  
Idiots. It's "This ARE are story".
 
2014-06-10 03:18:28 PM  
nice, fark is now shilling for lobbyist groups.
 
2014-06-10 03:19:07 PM  
This be are storiez
 
2014-06-10 03:21:13 PM  
may i axed you a question
 
2014-06-10 03:21:36 PM  
Not bad for a bunch of prison inmates.
 
2014-06-10 03:21:50 PM  
I'm pretty sure that this will all work itself out if we cut funding and fire some people and take away everyone's benefits.
 
2014-06-10 03:22:33 PM  

special20: What was that crap about phonetics again? Oh yeah, hooked on ebonics. phonics.

Friggin ruined spelling bees for local kids. Now the grammar knot sees will have plenty of fodder.

 
2014-06-10 03:22:39 PM  
All their bases are belong to them.
 
2014-06-10 03:23:17 PM  
B--b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bb-b-ut...farking BOOTSTRAPS!!!!!
 
2014-06-10 03:23:52 PM  

Donnchadha: Walker: Eddie Adams from Torrance: I weep for are future.

Future? I weep for are present.

Are present?

Thanks, Omaha!


Where is  Marlin Perkins when you need him?
 
2014-06-10 03:24:00 PM  
Chicago? Should have read, "This is Ar-15 story"
 
2014-06-10 03:24:05 PM  
It was supposed to be "This is Arr! Story", it was a Pirates of the Caribbean theme but Disney wouldn't let them use the name of the movie...
 
2014-06-10 03:24:33 PM  

ChipNASA: Prom KING


Nick Kroll...man, I love that guy..
 
2014-06-10 03:25:08 PM  

ChipNASA: I_Am_Weasel: Delawheredad: And yet homeschoolers are mocked and berated and told that their kids should be in public school with morons like these.

What our you talking about?

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I still say I'd give her something to brush her teeth with.
 
2014-06-10 03:25:20 PM  
Link is anti-Common Core, pro-school voucher, highly partisan DERP. Picture, while quite possibly authentic, is unverified.
 
2014-06-10 03:25:45 PM  
It bears repeating that parental income is the Number One predictor of a child's success in school, perhaps a better predictor than all other factors combined.

Wikipedia lists Chicago Public Schools as having 87% of students coming from low income families.

If you really want to boost graduation rates in a school system with so many poor kids, widespread testing and putting the screws to the teachers won't work.

What is needed are programs to alleviate the effects poverty has on students - accessible free breakfast and lunch programs that don't stigmatize students, and free after-school extra-curricular programs all year, including the summer.

Of course, this costs money, and it's much cheaper to blame the teachers for factors they don't have control over.
 
2014-06-10 03:26:12 PM  

Orgasmatron138: If you ever want to weep for America, go to world star hip hop and read the comments in any thread. Shiat makes Farkers look like a bunch of erudite scholars.


World Star is comedy gold. It's always fun watching those people brawling outside a liquor store for my personal amusement.

All the fun of watching a street fight without the risk of stray bullets.
 
2014-06-10 03:26:31 PM  
How did this get past the printer and actually get printed?
 
2014-06-10 03:27:10 PM  

Crudbucket: My brother is a teacher in the Chicago public school system. I make fun of him when stories like this come out, but the truth is that it's a job I certainly don't have the patience or balls to do. The last time I talked to him, he was staying after school to let a kid take a make-up test. The kid had missed the original test because he was in court testifying against his uncle, who killed the kid's dad at his birthday party. Most of his students have more important things to cope with than spelling and grammar.


My wife taught in an alternative high school in Michigan for a while, and she told many similar stories.  Kids were failing because they were missing class for court appointments, or to drive parents with cancer to the doctor, or because they couldn't get a babysitter for their own kids, or because a parent had just gone to jail and they needed to take care of younger siblings.  There's a certain point where it almost doesn't matter what resources the school has or what the quality of the teachers is.  If everything else about their lives is broken, the kids won't succeed.
 
2014-06-10 03:27:24 PM  

Donnchadha: Walker: Eddie Adams from Torrance: I weep for are future.

Future? I weep for are present.

Are present?

Thanks, Omaha!


Sure, blame everything on Peyton Manning.
 
2014-06-10 03:29:08 PM  

DoctorWhat: My wife taught in an alternative high school in Michigan for a while, and she told many similar stories.  Kids were failing because they were missing class for court appointments, or to drive parents with cancer to the doctor, or because they couldn't get a babysitter for their own kids, or because a parent had just gone to jail and they needed to take care of younger siblings.  There's a certain point where it almost doesn't matter what resources the school has or what the quality of the teachers is.  If everything else about their lives is broken, the kids won't succeed.


And whose fault is that?

I'll tell you whose.  The poors.
 
2014-06-10 03:30:08 PM  
It's a shame. Just blame it on spell check.
 
2014-06-10 03:30:39 PM  
Illinois Policy Institute

Illinois Policy Institute is an independent government watchdog fighting for hardworking taxpayers.



Uh huh.
 
2014-06-10 03:30:41 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-10 03:31:08 PM  
We need to make English our offical language!
 
2014-06-10 03:31:11 PM  
Must've been written by my wife

BUDUMPBUMP TSH!
 
2014-06-10 03:31:13 PM  

Crudbucket: My brother is a teacher in the Chicago public school system. I make fun of him when stories like this come out, but the truth is that it's a job I certainly don't have the patience or balls to do. The last time I talked to him, he was staying after school to let a kid take a make-up test. The kid had missed the original test because he was in court testifying against his uncle, who killed the kid's dad at his birthday party. Most of his students have more important things to cope with than spelling and grammar.


That's a horrible life for a kid.
 
2014-06-10 03:32:14 PM  

cowgirl toffee: It's a shame. Just blame it on spell check.


Go easy on Clippy, he has the assburgers you know...
 
2014-06-10 03:32:33 PM  

Crudbucket: My brother is a teacher in the Chicago public school system. I make fun of him when stories like this come out, but the truth is that it's a job I certainly don't have the patience or balls to do. The last time I talked to him, he was staying after school to let a kid take a make-up test. The kid had missed the original test because he was in court testifying against his uncle, who killed the kid's dad at his birthday party. Most of his students have more important things to cope with than spelling and grammar.


It may seem that way now, but later, that inability to speak and spell correctly will determine just how shiatty the rest of their lives will be.
 
2014-06-10 03:32:47 PM  

DoctorWhat: Crudbucket: My brother is a teacher in the Chicago public school system. I make fun of him when stories like this come out, but the truth is that it's a job I certainly don't have the patience or balls to do. The last time I talked to him, he was staying after school to let a kid take a make-up test. The kid had missed the original test because he was in court testifying against his uncle, who killed the kid's dad at his birthday party. Most of his students have more important things to cope with than spelling and grammar.

My wife taught in an alternative high school in Michigan for a while, and she told many similar stories.  Kids were failing because they were missing class for court appointments, or to drive parents with cancer to the doctor, or because they couldn't get a babysitter for their own kids, or because a parent had just gone to jail and they needed to take care of younger siblings.  There's a certain point where it almost doesn't matter what resources the school has or what the quality of the teachers is.  If everything else about their lives is broken, the kids won't succeed.


As if you're saying "parents matter".
Or rich kids inherit higher intelligence.
/Both are true.
 
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