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2014-06-10 12:21:58 PM
QuickType learns the phrases you type and the language you use, and it suggests the word or phrase you might type next based on your history.

So they're "innovating" Swiftkey, which has been around since 2010. How is this any different from Samsung using rounded corners?
 
2014-06-10 12:44:02 PM
Apple's keyboard (which its users will defend to their death!) is based on the 1800's technology of the typewriter. Pecking 1 key at a time. Swype is so much better and another reason I prefer my Android.

It's also hilarious that the below article proclaims:
Secret new iOS 8 features let you do something Apple has never allowed before

http://news.yahoo.com/secret-ios-8-features-let-something-apple-neve r- 132111081.html

And it turns out the innovating new secret feature is.....drumroll please.....you can display different fonts and font colors. LOL.

Apple users, you so funny.
 
2014-06-10 12:50:58 PM
I'm sure this thread will not be full of Android fanbois viscously attacking the apple straw man.

Not at all.
 
2014-06-10 01:50:26 PM

Gig103: QuickType learns the phrases you type and the language you use, and it suggests the word or phrase you might type next based on your history.

So they're "innovating" Swiftkey, which has been around since 2010.


It also sounds like they're including context sensitive dictionaries, so that it will suggest different phrases depending on whom you're talking to, where you are, time of day, etc.

How is this any different from Samsung using rounded corners?

Well, for one, it's an application, not a design patent. But you knew that.
 
2014-06-10 01:52:47 PM

Walker: Apple's keyboard (which its users will defend to their death!)


FTA:  Another important feature for me and anyone else with an iOS device is Apple's new keyboard. Apple bills its new QuickType keyboard as its "smartest keyboard ever." Considering how awful iOS's keyboard has been for the past seven years, that really isn't saying much.

Yeah, he's really defending that to his death there...
 
2014-06-10 02:33:57 PM

Theaetetus: Walker: Apple's keyboard (which its users will defend to their death!)

FTA:  Another important feature for me and anyone else with an iOS device is Apple's new keyboard. Apple bills its new QuickType keyboard as its "smartest keyboard ever." Considering how awful iOS's keyboard has been for the past seven years, that really isn't saying much.

Yeah, he's really defending that to his death there...


I didn't mean him. I meant iPhone users I've talked to. They will argue with me and say it's faster to peck one key at a time rather than just making a quick swipe. K.
 
2014-06-10 02:47:11 PM

Walker: Theaetetus: Walker: Apple's keyboard (which its users will defend to their death!)

FTA:  Another important feature for me and anyone else with an iOS device is Apple's new keyboard. Apple bills its new QuickType keyboard as its "smartest keyboard ever." Considering how awful iOS's keyboard has been for the past seven years, that really isn't saying much.

Yeah, he's really defending that to his death there...

I didn't mean him. I meant iPhone users I've talked to. They will argue with me and say it's faster to peck one key at a time rather than just making a quick swipe. K.


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2014-06-10 03:07:56 PM
Have they improved the email client?  I hope they improve the email client.  I want one that doesn't suck.

For example.  How painfully would it be for them to allow me to customize notifications for individual senders?   HOW FRICKIN' PAINFUL?

I'm not talking about 50 or 60 senders here, I'm talking 10.  10 individual email notification methods.  TEN.

Oh sure.  It can quickly give me the lyrics for almost any song, at the point the song is playing, but I can't have it play different sounds depending on if it's the boss, coworker or friend.

Then again, maybe I've missed this feature.
 
2014-06-10 03:55:44 PM

sprgrss: I'm sure this thread will not be full of Android fanbois viscously attacking the apple straw man.

Not at all.


I use Windows Phone and I think Apple is lame.
 
2014-06-10 04:02:52 PM

Walker: Theaetetus: Walker: Apple's keyboard (which its users will defend to their death!)

FTA:  Another important feature for me and anyone else with an iOS device is Apple's new keyboard. Apple bills its new QuickType keyboard as its "smartest keyboard ever." Considering how awful iOS's keyboard has been for the past seven years, that really isn't saying much.

Yeah, he's really defending that to his death there...

I didn't mean him. I meant iPhone users I've talked to. They will argue with me and say it's faster to peck one key at a time rather than just making a quick swipe. K.


what are you talking about?  you can type words by swiping?  that doesn't seem reliable.  i guess, maybe it's a miracle.  otherwise, what kind of a comparison are you making?

/ i have an iphone.  it was bought for me one christmas several years ago.  those androids appear too large to fit comfortably in a pocket.  my nokia phone was a lot more resilient and didn't mind going swimming in a gin and tonic (long story, and the only reason i survived was because it was mardi gras).
// but, a smartphone, once you have one, is pretty nice.  i don't really care about ios or whatever else.  personally, i don't like apple, their interfaces, or, anything really.  but, all things considered, the iphone is better than a nokia dumb phone.
/// i am really not looking forward to a new operating system.  apple uses new operating systems to destroy older phones.
 
2014-06-10 04:03:35 PM

Walker: And it turns out the innovating new secret feature is.....drumroll please.....you can display different fonts and font colors. LOL.


They didn't say it was innovative. They said it was new, which is correct.
 
2014-06-10 04:03:53 PM
The iPod, iPhone and iPad were all big deals when they came out; everyone can recognize that.  At some point though, they became big, slow, and risk averse (it's common to companies with their history). Google/Android isn't in a better position either.

If iOS or Android is going to innovate, it's going to be through Apple or Google buying up start-ups that can take risks. We can see this and it appears that Google is doing a lot more buying than Apple (or at least smarter buying, eg, Word Lens vs Beats).
 
2014-06-10 04:11:59 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Have they improved the email client?  I hope they improve the email client.  I want one that doesn't suck.

For example.  How painfully would it be for them to allow me to customize notifications for individual senders?   HOW FRICKIN' PAINFUL?

I'm not talking about 50 or 60 senders here, I'm talking 10.  10 individual email notification methods.  TEN.

Oh sure.  It can quickly give me the lyrics for almost any song, at the point the song is playing, but I can't have it play different sounds depending on if it's the boss, coworker or friend.

Then again, maybe I've missed this feature.


I'd prefer a different icon for each email. My work email shouldn't look just like my personal email. Especially when I've been drinking.....

I can't wait to switch to Android later this year. So sick of Apple. Been on iPhone since the 3, 3G, 3GS, and currently the 4S. Buying the Note 4 the day it comes out and will never look back!
 
2014-06-10 04:12:36 PM

pute kisses like a man: what are you talking about?  you can type words by swiping?  that doesn't seem reliable.  i guess, maybe it's a miracle.  otherwise, what kind of a comparison are you making?


Best couple bucks I ever spent on an app.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ-RAefCG_c
 
2014-06-10 04:35:44 PM
Is the auto-correct on IOS as sorry as it is on Android? Because I nearly hucked my phone in the trash until I figured out how to shut that crap off. Goddammit, that isn't what I fraking typed! Auto-correct my ass. Maybe auto-type-something-other-than-I-wanted.
 
2014-06-10 04:36:18 PM
Unless something is truly off - say, Apple's Maps app, for example

They will never ever live that one down...
 
2014-06-10 04:37:33 PM

sprgrss: I'm sure this thread will not be full of Android fanbois viscously attacking the apple straw man.

Not at all.


No, but we all know who is going to show up to iNsult us. I don't even have to use the apple bat symbol.
 
2014-06-10 04:44:58 PM

ampoliros: pute kisses like a man: what are you talking about?  you can type words by swiping?  that doesn't seem reliable.  i guess, maybe it's a miracle.  otherwise, what kind of a comparison are you making?

Best couple bucks I ever spent on an app.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ-RAefCG_c


oh.  that's weird.  well, maybe it's better.  who knows.  typing on a phone is not very reliable as it is, so it's nice to see someone try something new.  unfortunately, it violates my constitutional limitations:  i shall not pay money for an "app".

/ after adjusting the onion on my belt, i would also like to express my distaste with the word "app".
 
2014-06-10 04:47:38 PM
It's about time they fix the keyboard. That keyboard was the worst keyboard I've ever used on a touch device that didn't have resistive touch screens. I tried to use my girlfriend's iPhone over the weekend and the difference between a Swift Key and the old keyboard actually made me struggle for a little bit to compose a bit of text.
 
2014-06-10 04:48:05 PM

pute kisses like a man: ampoliros: pute kisses like a man: what are you talking about?  you can type words by swiping?  that doesn't seem reliable.  i guess, maybe it's a miracle.  otherwise, what kind of a comparison are you making?

Best couple bucks I ever spent on an app.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ-RAefCG_c

oh.  that's weird.  well, maybe it's better.  who knows.  typing on a phone is not very reliable as it is, so it's nice to see someone try something new.  unfortunately, it violates my constitutional limitations:  i shall not pay money for an "app".

/ after adjusting the onion on my belt, i would also like to express my distaste with the word "app".


The swipe keyboard I've been using on my Android is actually much, much more accurate than the pecking keyboard. The main problem I have with the pecking keyboard is all of the characters near the spacebar; I commonlybtypebthingsblikebthis, and it's really annoying to go back and fix that. The swiping keyboard doesn't have that issue, and is much better than I expected at accurately figuring out the word.
 
2014-06-10 04:51:48 PM

pute kisses like a man: unfortunately, it violates my constitutional limitations:  i shall not pay money for an "app".


You really should have picked the phone ecosystem where you can get everything for free, rather than apple.
 
2014-06-10 04:55:12 PM

pute kisses like a man: ampoliros: pute kisses like a man: what are you talking about?  you can type words by swiping?  that doesn't seem reliable.  i guess, maybe it's a miracle.  otherwise, what kind of a comparison are you making?

Best couple bucks I ever spent on an app.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ-RAefCG_c

oh.  that's weird.  well, maybe it's better.  who knows.  typing on a phone is not very reliable as it is, so it's nice to see someone try something new.  unfortunately, it violates my constitutional limitations:  i shall not pay money for an "app".

/ after adjusting the onion on my belt, i would also like to express my distaste with the word "app".


There are several free ones for Android, and the Google keyboard actually has this functionality built right in. I always swipe, it is so much faster and even more accurate for me than typing. I did some searching for iPhone equivalents of ones I have used in the past but cannot find any for free as they are/were on Android. In this case, you might be happy if you broke your no-pay rule and shelled out $1.99 on a swipe keyboard. As ampoliros mentioned, it's worth every cent. Hell, if you buy one and don't like it, let me know and I'll PayPal you the $1.99.
 
2014-06-10 04:55:14 PM

pute kisses like a man: i shall not pay money for an "app".


I used to think that and then I realized that I'd routinely pay $2 for all kinds of stupid things that didn't last and were completely unnecessary. The cost of an app that I'd use almost every day was about the same as two items from a vending machine.

That said, I don't buy apps willy-nilly but I have no problem paying for apps that I know I'll use.
 
2014-06-10 05:02:18 PM
Has anything been introduced that might truly excite power users, though?

Jesus, do "power users" realize that eventually we're going to hit a wall here? You can only do so much with your farking phones, people.
 
2014-06-10 05:05:38 PM
Windows 8 ftw, my son loves his Windows phone, i still use a dumb phone, with a long cord
 
2014-06-10 05:08:20 PM

pute kisses like a man: i shall not pay money for an "app".


Why? It's a piece of software, work done by someone. Do you show up at work every day for free?
 
2014-06-10 05:18:16 PM
It's 2014. Who still types on a phone like a caveman?

Get Voice Text for iPhone (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-text/id527968532?mt=8) and Google/Bing apps for searching by voice and 99% of your typing goes away.
 
2014-06-10 05:18:41 PM

Mikey1969: pute kisses like a man: i shall not pay money for an "app".

Why? It's a piece of software, work done by someone. Do you show up at work every day for free?


Bad analogy, the internet is filled with software done for free (and even more that is easily procured for free).   Its probably been a couple decades since I paid for a piece of software that isn't a game.
 
2014-06-10 05:20:12 PM

pute kisses like a man: what are you talking about? you can type words by swiping? that doesn't seem reliable. i guess, maybe it's a miracle. otherwise, what kind of a comparison are you making?


Are you serious? You've never even heard of anything like that?
 
2014-06-10 05:22:24 PM
I switched to the iPhone from Android about a year ago, I'm generally happy. I really miss Swype though.
 
2014-06-10 05:24:31 PM

bbqsandwich: It's 2014. Who still types on a phone like a caveman?

Get Voice Text for iPhone (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-text/id527968532?mt=8) and Google/Bing apps for searching by voice and 99% of your typing goes away.


Isn't voice search standard on all platforms without need for another app? Sometimes it's more comfortable in public to swipe than it is to talk out loud to your phone. I do use voice for my Android fairly often, and recognition is so accurate it's spooky.
 
2014-06-10 05:24:50 PM

lilplatinum: Mikey1969: pute kisses like a man: i shall not pay money for an "app".

Why? It's a piece of software, work done by someone. Do you show up at work every day for free?

Bad analogy, the internet is filled with software done for free (and even more that is easily procured for free).   Its probably been a couple decades since I paid for a piece of software that isn't a game.


It's a perfectly fine analogy. If someone puts out a piece of software, they can expect to get paid, regardless of how much free software is out there. It's up to the person distributing the software if they want to distribute it for free or not, just as it is your decision if you want to do your job for free. Regardless of what you do, the world is full of people who do it for free.

You should, too.
 
2014-06-10 05:36:08 PM

SkittlesAreYum: pute kisses like a man: what are you talking about? you can type words by swiping? that doesn't seem reliable. i guess, maybe it's a miracle. otherwise, what kind of a comparison are you making?

Are you serious? You've never even heard of anything like that?


no, until this thread, i have not heard of anything like that.

see:

pute kisses like a man: / after adjusting the onion on my belt

 
2014-06-10 05:44:58 PM

Mikey1969: lilplatinum: Mikey1969: pute kisses like a man: i shall not pay money for an "app".

Why? It's a piece of software, work done by someone. Do you show up at work every day for free?

Bad analogy, the internet is filled with software done for free (and even more that is easily procured for free).   Its probably been a couple decades since I paid for a piece of software that isn't a game.

It's a perfectly fine analogy. If someone puts out a piece of software, they can expect to get paid, regardless of how much free software is out there. It's up to the person distributing the software if they want to distribute it for free or not, just as it is your decision if you want to do your job for free. Regardless of what you do, the world is full of people who do it for free.

You should, too.


sometimes I work for free (I don't bill for every hour of my labor) because I consider that as part of the service I provide.

regarding apps: I use apps for services that I receive in connection to a service or product that I pay for (bank apps, insurance apps, doc management apps, remote control apps).  So, in this sense, I consider those apps "free" in the same sense certain parts of my billable time is "free".  it's a bonus.  lagniappe.  whatever.

but, i don't like to pay for apps.  because, that means either a service I legitimately pay for is trying to fark me to use its service (slingbox, fark you) or the only service it provides is to increase the functionality of a  device that should not need help.  it costs an arm and a leg to purchase, and an even more outrageous amount monthly, and it sucks so much I have to pay a third party to make it work?  it just rubs me the wrong way.  I'd rather write angrily worded letters to the manufacturer.

/ i've become quite good at the angrily worded letter.  not productive.  but I've enjoyed some unique phrasing and entertained myself.
 
2014-06-10 05:54:27 PM

Dragonflew: bbqsandwich: It's 2014. Who still types on a phone like a caveman?

Get Voice Text for iPhone (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-text/id527968532?mt=8) and Google/Bing apps for searching by voice and 99% of your typing goes away.

Isn't voice search standard on all platforms without need for another app? Sometimes it's more comfortable in public to swipe than it is to talk out loud to your phone. I do use voice for my Android fairly often, and recognition is so accurate it's spooky.


Yeah, iPhone 4S and above has Siri, which does tons of stuff by voice. My aging iphone 4 company phone requires apps but they get the job done and have some nice features.
 
2014-06-10 05:54:59 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Have they improved the email client?  I hope they improve the email client.  I want one that doesn't suck.

For example.  How painfully would it be for them to allow me to customize notifications for individual senders?   HOW FRICKIN' PAINFUL?

I'm not talking about 50 or 60 senders here, I'm talking 10.  10 individual email notification methods.  TEN.

Oh sure.  It can quickly give me the lyrics for almost any song, at the point the song is playing, but I can't have it play different sounds depending on if it's the boss, coworker or friend.

Then again, maybe I've missed this feature.


I think if you make them VIPs you can set individual notifications.
 
2014-06-10 05:56:29 PM

pute kisses like a man: but, i don't like to pay for apps.  because, that means either a service I legitimately pay for is trying to fark me to use its service (slingbox, fark you) or the only service it provides is to increase the functionality of a  device that should not need help.  it costs an arm and a leg to purchase, and an even more outrageous amount monthly, and it sucks so much I have to pay a third party to make it work?  it just rubs me the wrong way.  I'd rather write angrily worded letters to the manufacturer.


Then you should really stick with a rotary phone.

And I have no idea who wold think that the company making the phone's OS could possibly conceive every single solitary use for a phone and design things in a way that would make every single user cream in their pants. If the phone manufacturer issues Keyboard 'A', but Keyboard 'B' has more features that I want, it doesn't mean that they made a shiatty product, it means that they can't anticipate the needs of........

Wait, you're an iPhone user, aren't you?

Never mind, I see it now. If Apple didn't squeeze it out of their ass, it must not be relevant to you.
 
2014-06-10 06:00:40 PM

lilplatinum: Mikey1969: pute kisses like a man: i shall not pay money for an "app".

Why? It's a piece of software, work done by someone. Do you show up at work every day for free?

Bad analogy, the internet is filled with software done for free (and even more that is easily procured for free).   Its probably been a couple decades since I paid for a piece of software that isn't a game.


At least we discovered your alt...
 
2014-06-10 06:03:00 PM

Mikey1969: It's a perfectly fine analogy. If someone puts out a piece of software, they can expect to get paid, regardless of how much free software is out there. It's up to the person distributing the software if they want to distribute it for free or not, just as it is your decision if you want to do your job for free. Regardless of what you do, the world is full of people who do it for free.

You should, too.


I should what, too?
 
2014-06-10 06:05:47 PM

Mikey1969: At least we discovered your alt...


Never had one, and am unsure who you are insinuating it would be?
 
2014-06-10 06:40:28 PM
most of those features have already been available on android.

no i wont do your work for you, you can search.

course sheep will pay for the latest POS apple churns out with their documented slave labor.
 
2014-06-10 06:50:08 PM
Use whatever you like I guess, but I don't see why people pay more money for a phone that has been doing nothing but playing catchup with three year old features for the last 5 years.
 
2014-06-10 08:45:23 PM
Some things Apple does are annoying, but you're still 32x more likely to get herpes from a non-Apple phone. People who use those other smart phones, I tell them don't touch anything on my desk.
 
2014-06-10 08:58:56 PM
Let's see if this works for me:

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2014-06-10 09:23:53 PM

pute kisses like a man: but, i don't like to pay for apps.  because, that means either a service I legitimately pay for is trying to fark me to use its service (slingbox, fark you) or the only service it provides is to increase the functionality of a  device that should not need help.  it costs an arm and a leg to purchase, and an even more outrageous amount monthly, and it sucks so much I have to pay a third party to make it work?  it just rubs me the wrong way.  I'd rather write angrily worded letters to the manufacturer.


I think you may have missed a big point about the iPhone. The built in features are not the main draw. It's an app platform. It exists so that other developers can give it a function and do amazing things that Apple would never think of. It's not that the apps exist to make up for a lackluster device, the apps are the device. You're really missing out on 80% of what the phone can do.
 
2014-06-10 09:28:13 PM

xtech: most of those features have already been available on android.

no i wont do your work for you, you can search.

course sheep will pay for the latest POS apple churns out with their documented slave labor.


Though work conditions still suck on an absolute scale, I promise you, you will not find a phone manufacturer with better Chinese labor conditions than Apple.
 
2014-06-10 09:52:06 PM

Tobin_Lam: I_Am_Weasel: Have they improved the email client?  I hope they improve the email client.  I want one that doesn't suck.

For example.  How painfully would it be for them to allow me to customize notifications for individual senders?   HOW FRICKIN' PAINFUL?

I'm not talking about 50 or 60 senders here, I'm talking 10.  10 individual email notification methods.  TEN.

Oh sure.  It can quickly give me the lyrics for almost any song, at the point the song is playing, but I can't have it play different sounds depending on if it's the boss, coworker or friend.

Then again, maybe I've missed this feature.

I think if you make them VIPs you can set individual notifications.


Not that I'm aware of.  You can set notifications for VIP, but just VIP as a whole, not as individuals.
 
2014-06-10 10:22:05 PM

Walker: Theaetetus: Walker: Apple's keyboard (which its users will defend to their death!)

FTA:  Another important feature for me and anyone else with an iOS device is Apple's new keyboard. Apple bills its new QuickType keyboard as its "smartest keyboard ever." Considering how awful iOS's keyboard has been for the past seven years, that really isn't saying much.

Yeah, he's really defending that to his death there...

I didn't mean him. I meant iPhone users I've talked to. They will argue with me and say it's faster to peck one key at a time rather than just making a quick swipe. K.


You're making that up. At best, people don't care about the keyboard.
 
2014-06-10 10:25:32 PM

bbqsandwich: It's 2014. Who still types on a phone like a caveman?

Get Voice Text for iPhone (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-text/id527968532?mt=8) and Google/Bing apps for searching by voice and 99% of your typing goes away.


Voice to text is a built-in feature for the iPhone 5S... it may not work on older iPhones.
 
2014-06-11 12:09:14 AM
Do the notifications still play in my ear at full volume WHILE I'M ON A CALL?!?!?!

Yes?

Fark you Apple.
 
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