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vpb [TotalFark]
2014-06-10 10:54:08 AM  
Well, sometimes things are so much a part of your routine that you never even think there might be some obscure old law out there.
 
2014-06-10 11:10:02 AM  
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2014-06-10 11:14:37 AM  
I didn't think it was possible but I actually started sputtering in anger after reading that.

Seriously, that's his defense?  If I was the pope . . .

Ugh.
 
2014-06-10 11:26:15 AM  

SphericalTime: I didn't think it was possible but I actually started sputtering in anger after reading that.

Seriously, that's his defense?  If I was the pope . . .

Ugh.


If you were the pope, you'd be steeped in the culture that allowed this to go on for centuries, and you would be making the same noises Francis has - reconciliation, forgiveness, and quiet "treatment" and reassignment while everyone is too busy singing "On Eagles' Wings" to notice.
 
2014-06-10 11:32:09 AM  
This is one of those things the internet helps out with.  Just type the relevant age into Google, and the perverts on the internet will know.  In the pre-internet age, you might have to schlep down to the library.
 
2014-06-10 11:39:13 AM  
This piece of s**t actually said that. Seriously. A Bishop of the church that has for years proclaimed masturbation and birth control to be sins didn't know ass f**king children was a crime. I wish I believed there was a God who would punish human excrement walking around as if it was holy.

Or maybe just a Guy Fawkes masked vigilante to deal with this prick appropriately.

www.an-c.dk
'Mea culpa, my child...'
 
2014-06-10 12:23:12 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: SphericalTime: I didn't think it was possible but I actually started sputtering in anger after reading that.

Seriously, that's his defense?  If I was the pope . . .

Ugh.

If you were the pope, you'd be steeped in the culture that allowed this to go on for centuries, and you would be making the same noises Francis has - reconciliation, forgiveness, and quiet "treatment" and reassignment while everyone is too busy singing "On Eagles' Wings" to notice.


If I were the pope, something seriously wrong would have occurred at the conclave.  The Catholic Church doesn't usually elect gay atheist Americans to the position.  But man, if they did I would scrub that organization from top to bottom.
 
2014-06-10 01:36:42 PM  
I think someone needs to flog the bishop.
 
2014-06-10 02:28:13 PM  
This far into the thread and no links to the Costanza defense? Huh.
 
2014-06-10 02:29:56 PM  
Looks like I'll be getting a fair bit of use out of this
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2014-06-10 02:29:56 PM  
I saw this on South Park???
 
2014-06-10 02:30:20 PM  
I mean, if the guy didn't know, then he didn't know.

NOT GUILTY!
 
2014-06-10 02:30:40 PM  
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2014-06-10 02:32:03 PM  

h0tsauce: Looks like I'll be getting a fair bit of use out of this
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I remember when that happened, everybody was pissed off that she did that.  Hard to believe she was right on the money.
 
2014-06-10 02:32:47 PM  
Are you farking kidding me?!?
 
2014-06-10 02:33:04 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: I think someone needs to flog the bishop.


Isn't that what got him into this mess in the first place?
 
2014-06-10 02:33:16 PM  
Ladies and gentlemen, your moral leadership.
 
2014-06-10 02:34:14 PM  
Well, is bank robbery a crime? I don't know. Where is my pistols?
 
2014-06-10 02:34:40 PM  
You needed a law to tell you that molesting children was wrong?

I'm not sure I can fathom that level of stupidity and ignorance, so what it comes down to is that you're just a bad liar.

Turn in your moral compass, you're not using it.
 
2014-06-10 02:35:10 PM  
I think he's using the, "everyone else is doing it" defense.
 
2014-06-10 02:36:18 PM  
Please, you are all over looking his statement about knowing it's a crime now. See, all better.
 
2014-06-10 02:36:52 PM  
I can't remember, is this the type of Catholic that moves diagonally?
 
2014-06-10 02:38:06 PM  
God's law > man's law, and there's nothing in God's rule book about not sexing the kids.  Of course, there's nothing in there that condemns abortion either, but kids don't need to get abortions so it sorts itself out nicely.
 
2014-06-10 02:40:39 PM  
pretty sure Perjury is both a crime AND a mortal sin there bishop.

And that is putting the BEST spin on things

If he's not a perjurer, he's a sociopath because EVERYONE from pretty much the dawn o f time, knows that.

Fun fact:

Know someone who works at one of several "inpatient secure psychiatric facilities" the church runs nationwide for taking care their mentally ill clergy.  Of course her patients have included more than a few pedophiles, but they are always patients from across the country, who were strangely brought there when there are similar facilities much closer to home.

The reason why is sickening:  The "mandatory report" laws that require a therapist to break confidentiality and report any instance of child sex abuse a patient tells them about to police, are STATE laws, and so technically apply ONLY to confessed instances of abuse IN THAT STATE.  By shipping the Pedos halfway across the country they lower the chances of a therapist being legally able to call the cops based on what they hear
 
2014-06-10 02:42:10 PM  
Archbihop . caught sayoff church that has stoped rape investigation "See, told ya so" is He charged or not.
 
2014-06-10 02:43:05 PM  
I read that book. It says not to lie, not to steal, not to covet, not to kill folks, and not to be the ghey. It doesn't say "Thou shalt not get your freak on with a minor (miners are still OK)" anywhere in it. So it's all good, y'all!
 
2014-06-10 02:45:12 PM  
You guys are looking at his statement in the worst possible light. What if he's a moron? I bet you would feel silly then.
 
2014-06-10 02:46:23 PM  
What is he, the archbishop of Singapore?
 
2014-06-10 02:47:33 PM  

xsarien: [img.fark.net image 631x302]


See, that line is fine; but I was thinking more "It's not a lie, if you believe it!"
 
2014-06-10 02:49:05 PM  

stuhayes2010: h0tsauce: Looks like I'll be getting a fair bit of use out of this
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I remember when that happened, everybody was pissed off that she did that.  Hard to believe she was right on the money.


Hindsight is always 20/20. Too bad with our foresight, as a species, we're practically blind.
 
2014-06-10 02:49:07 PM  

Magorn: pretty sure Perjury is both a crime AND a mortal sin there bishop.

And that is putting the BEST spin on things

If he's not a perjurer, he's a sociopath because EVERYONE from pretty much the dawn o f time, knows that.

Fun fact:

Know someone who works at one of several "inpatient secure psychiatric facilities" the church runs nationwide for taking care their mentally ill clergy.  Of course her patients have included more than a few pedophiles, but they are always patients from across the country, who were strangely brought there when there are similar facilities much closer to home.

The reason why is sickening:  The "mandatory report" laws that require a therapist to break confidentiality and report any instance of child sex abuse a patient tells them about to police, are STATE laws, and so technically apply ONLY to confessed instances of abuse IN THAT STATE.  By shipping the Pedos halfway across the country they lower the chances of a therapist being legally able to call the cops based on what they hear


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2014-06-10 02:49:14 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

Life Pro Tip: having to tell people all the time that you're moral is like having to tell people that a "joke" you told was funny. If you have to tell people, it's almost certainly not the case.
 
2014-06-10 02:49:29 PM  
Every stinking pig that can lay hands on this asshole and doesn't is a dirty farking cop and deserves to be locked up forever.
If you are a cop, and you have a pedo or pedo enabler running free, it is your job to farking lock his ass up until he is tried and once convicted, transport him to where ever the fark he is going to rot and lock his ass up.
Fark the church and fark the cops for not doing their jobs.
 
2014-06-10 02:50:13 PM  
Ha, nice try, subby.  Nobody is dumb enough to-

*reads article*

Well, goddammit....
 
2014-06-10 02:50:14 PM  
So ignorance of the law is an excuse.
 
2014-06-10 02:51:16 PM  

h0tsauce: Looks like I'll be getting a fair bit of use out of this
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Please do
Until it is meaningless.
But for now, it is meaningful.
 
2014-06-10 02:52:15 PM  

SphericalTime: Benevolent Misanthrope: SphericalTime: I didn't think it was possible but I actually started sputtering in anger after reading that.

Seriously, that's his defense?  If I was the pope . . .

Ugh.

If you were the pope, you'd be steeped in the culture that allowed this to go on for centuries, and you would be making the same noises Francis has - reconciliation, forgiveness, and quiet "treatment" and reassignment while everyone is too busy singing "On Eagles' Wings" to notice.

If I were the pope, something seriously wrong would have occurred at the conclave.  The Catholic Church doesn't usually elect gay atheist Americans to the position.  But man, if they did I would scrub that organization from top to bottom.


Don't worry. I'm pretty sure being elected Pope would cure you of your gay through the proximity to God's Holy Spirit.
 
2014-06-10 02:53:21 PM  
Sometimes the best defense is to just shut the frak up.
 
2014-06-10 02:54:45 PM  
In Catholicism, sex without the intent to procreate is a sin.  As such, there can be NO WAY that sex with a male would NOT be a sin.

Of course, he may be correct in his thinking that it was not a CRIME to burgle and flatten the freshly forming turds from the love canal of developing choir boys.  After all, no one else in the church was getting busted for it. . .
 
2014-06-10 02:55:17 PM  

SphericalTime: Benevolent Misanthrope: SphericalTime: I didn't think it was possible but I actually started sputtering in anger after reading that.

Seriously, that's his defense?  If I was the pope . . .

Ugh.

If you were the pope, you'd be steeped in the culture that allowed this to go on for centuries, and you would be making the same noises Francis has - reconciliation, forgiveness, and quiet "treatment" and reassignment while everyone is too busy singing "On Eagles' Wings" to notice.

If I were the pope, something seriously wrong would have occurred at the conclave.  The Catholic Church doesn't usually elect gay atheist Americans to the position.  But man, if they did I would scrub that organization from top to bottom.


It should be scrubbed top to bottom anyway. It's like a Mafia with a celestial godfather.
 
2014-06-10 02:57:00 PM  

Snarfangel: You guys are looking at his statement in the worst possible light. What if he's a moron? I bet you would feel silly then.


If he is such a moron, how could he possibly rise to power in such a large religious organization??

Oh....wait.....
 
2014-06-10 02:57:29 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I read that book. It says not to lie, not to steal, not to covet, not to kill folks, and not to be the ghey. It doesn't say "Thou shalt not get your freak on with a minor (miners are still OK)" anywhere in it. So it's all good, y'all!


Yep. And this is why I as a gay man who was raped by my parish priest for years when I was an altar boy ... sometimes I just don't have the words.

I seriously think I'm being punked by the universe. You can't make this shiat up.
 
2014-06-10 02:58:00 PM  

ShatteredMinds: stuhayes2010: h0tsauce: Looks like I'll be getting a fair bit of use out of this
[betterthanvoodoo.files.wordpress.com image 348x264]

I remember when that happened, everybody was pissed off that she did that. Hard to believe she was right on the money.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Too bad with our foresight, as a species, we're practically blind.


Most people who weren't Catholic, and actually cared, didn't have a problem with her doing that.
 
2014-06-10 02:58:14 PM  
Just remember, this guy is not the one who was diddling kids.  He's even worse.  He was among those that shuffled the diddlers around to keep them from being prosecuted.
At least the diddlers have the mental illness to cite a reason for their behavior.
This asshole only has his position of power and his organization.
He does say that he told some parents to talk to the police.  He never did, though.


FTA: But over and over, throughout the deposition, Carlson claimed to not remember answers to questions posed by Anderson - for a total of 193 times.

Nice RWR imitation, there.
 
2014-06-10 02:58:26 PM  

SphericalTime: If I were the pope, something seriously wrong would have occurred at the conclave.  The Catholic Church doesn't usually elect gay atheist Americans to the position.  But man, if they did I would scrub that organization from top to bottom.


So... you are asking for them to be bathed and brought to you?
(They'd better scrub the bottoms extra hard then. They're gonna get dirty.)
 
2014-06-10 02:58:44 PM  

K3rmy: In Catholicism, sex without the intent to procreate is a sin.


Where in the Bible does it say that?  Serious question.
 
2014-06-10 03:00:42 PM  

AeAe: K3rmy: In Catholicism, sex without the intent to procreate is a sin.

Where in the Bible does it say that?  Serious question.


With even minor "interpretation" the Bible can tell you anything you want it to. Go check out crazy Christians on YouTube. They can demonstrate this to you quite well.
 
2014-06-10 03:03:15 PM  
 

I_Am_Weasel: You needed a law to tell you that molesting children was wrong?


They need the bible to tell them murder is wrong. I have had catholics ask me how I can have a moral code without believing in god.
 
2014-06-10 03:03:56 PM  

Jackpot777: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x678]

Life Pro Tip: having to tell people all the time that you're moral is like having to tell people that a "joke" you told was funny. If you have to tell people, it's almost certainly not the case.


given the rumors about Arthur,  perhaps not the very best choice of quote for this thread.
 
2014-06-10 03:05:29 PM  
Prosecutor:  Do you mean to say, Archbishop Carlson, that you in your extensive professional expertise felt it was not only NOT WRONG but APPROPRIATE to venture down the proverbial Hershey Highway - and to boot, one that was still UNDER CONSTRUCTION?

Archbishop Carlson: Um, that is correct sir.
 
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