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(CBS Dallas/Ft. Worth)   'Former' Gay Man Who Inspired GOP's Reparative Therapy Plank Speaks   (dfw.cbslocal.com ) divider line
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2014-06-10 11:13:11 AM  
TFA: "That friend of Cathie's is Jeremy, a 36-year-old North Texan, who for fear of retaliation did not want his last name released."


Yes, because retaliation from LGBT groups and activists in farking Dalhart can be devastating.
 
2014-06-10 11:14:13 AM  
"Dr. Joseph Nicolosi in California, who was one of the founders of the controversial National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH). "

NARTH!

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2014-06-10 11:24:07 AM  
Hey look, it's another one guy who claims that reparative therapy helped him go from gay to bisexual, who just so coincidentally happens to work for a ministry that promotes it.

Even if reparative therapy worked, the rate of success is so infinitesimal that it doesn't come close to making up for the horrific mental damage that it does to the majority of people who go through it and "fail."

All of the reparative therapy practices know that too, because they don't release anything remotely resembling success rates and all of the people that are willing to publicly espouse it seem to have a financial or professional interest in making sure that people continue to believe that it works.  Seriously, see if you can find an ex-gay guy that isn't a paid spokesman, on the paid staff of a ministry or clinic, or hasn't written a book that he's peddling to "help others."
 
2014-06-10 11:30:26 AM  

SphericalTime: Hey look, it's another one guy who claims that reparative therapy helped him go from gay to bisexual, who just so coincidentally happens to work for a ministry that promotes it.


For a TX Republican, that's all you need to write reparative therapy into your party platform.

Well that and Jesus a couple obscure verses from the OT
 
2014-06-10 11:39:39 AM  
newnownext.mtvnimages.com

Toodles to the gay you and welcome the new fabulous hetero-you.
 
2014-06-10 12:27:58 PM  
Reparative Therapy Plank?

Is that fancy speak for "beating with a clue-by-four"?
 
2014-06-10 12:39:06 PM  
He sounds all kinds of farked up.  But can you blame him?  He lives in Texas, and such "reparative therapy" has got to be particularly tough there.  For it to be successful in Texas, the subject would have to be turned into a steer.
 
2014-06-10 01:11:59 PM  
Jeremy is a Roman Catholic and has started a religious ministry out of his house to help other gay men who may want to make the conversion. "It's called Ezekiel 23:20 and is based on the idea of fulfillment."
 
2014-06-10 01:18:17 PM  
Ray Hill, an LGBT activist out of Houston who's worked with gay men who've gone through this type of conversion therapy, also thinks that the idea of being "cured" of homosexuality is bogus. "I've only met one person who claimed to have successfully been cured, but the last time I saw him was at an adult video store coming out of the arcade - so go figure."

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2014-06-10 01:38:38 PM  
"My attraction to my own gender has decreased a lot," Jeremy said. "And it has been about 4 years since I've had any interaction with any kind of gay relationship. And the desire for that is about half of what it used to be."

This just in: sex drive decreases as you age.

He's still gay, just less horny. And that's their poster child.
 
2014-06-10 01:49:01 PM  

Theaetetus: Jeremy is a Roman Catholic and has started a religious ministry out of his house to help other gay men who may want to make the conversion. "It's called Ezekiel 23:20 and is based on the idea of fulfillment."


Isn't that bread? Wait...
christianevidences.org

I won't eat that stuff because maybe they also include Ezekiel 4:12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
 
2014-06-10 01:51:13 PM  

nmrsnr: "My attraction to my own gender has decreased a lot," Jeremy said. "And it has been about 4 years since I've had any interaction with any kind of gay relationship. And the desire for that is about half of what it used to be."

This just in: sex drive decreases as you age.

He's still gay, just less horny. And that's their poster child.


I have not experienced "any interaction with any kind of gay relationship" in more than six years.

I required no therapy at all; I simply maintained my completely anti-social, isolationist behavior.
 
2014-06-10 02:22:40 PM  
He isn't gay. He is a dweeby sad sack who couldn't get pussy.
 
2014-06-10 02:28:49 PM  
FTFA "My attraction to my own gender has decreased a lot," Jeremy said. "And it has been about 4 years since I've had any interaction with any kind of gay relationship. And the desire for that is about half of what it used to be."

So - still gay.  How did that "therapy" work for you?
 
2014-06-10 02:29:22 PM  
That therapy must be surreal. If you're a straight guy, imagine some counselor trying to get you on board with the idea of a dick in your mouth. "Trace George Clooney's chiseled body for me. Imagine his firm hands on your buttocks."
 
2014-06-10 02:31:38 PM  
Wait, is a former gay person along the same lines as a born again virgin?
 
2014-06-10 02:31:55 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: That therapy must be surreal. If you're a straight guy, imagine some counselor trying to get you on board with the idea of a dick in your mouth. "Trace George Clooney's chiseled body for me. Imagine his firm hands on your buttocks."


Thank you for the excellent post-run visualization. No, really. Thank you.
 
2014-06-10 02:31:56 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Imagine his firm hands on your buttocks."


Oh, behave!
 
2014-06-10 02:32:46 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: [newnownext.mtvnimages.com image 400x543]

Toodles to the gay you and welcome the new fabulous hetero-you.


Every time I see a picture of Marcus Bachmann I am amazed that he isn't just surrounded by cock.

/so deep in the closet he's subletting a condo from Mr. Tumnus
 
2014-06-10 02:34:20 PM  
Is it just aversion therapy? How do they go about this deranged practice?
 
2014-06-10 02:35:53 PM  
WTF is "gay affirming therapy"? Is that what everyone else calls either 'coming out' or 'existing'?
 
2014-06-10 02:36:07 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Is it just aversion therapy? How do they go about this deranged practice?


They sit in a circle.
 
2014-06-10 02:40:12 PM  

Theaetetus: Jeremy is a Roman Catholic and has started a religious ministry out of his house to help other gay men who may want to make the conversion. "It's called Ezekiel 23:20 and is based on the idea of fulfillment."


Ezekiel 23:20, for anyone who might be interested:

"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."
 
2014-06-10 02:40:29 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Is it just aversion therapy? How do they go about this deranged practice?



It's pretty much the opposite of aversion. They make you snuggle with other dudes and think un-sexy thoughts.
 
2014-06-10 02:40:44 PM  

Cletus C.: UrukHaiGuyz: Is it just aversion therapy? How do they go about this deranged practice?

They sit in a circle.


Huh, I was imagining Clockwork Orange, but with gay porn instead of Beethoven.

/...is a sentence I never expected to type
 
2014-06-10 02:43:24 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Toodles to the gay you and welcome the new fabulous hetero-you.


Sounds like you need some comedy repression theraphy.
 
2014-06-10 02:45:28 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: [newnownext.mtvnimages.com image 400x543]

Toodles to the gay you and welcome the new fabulous hetero-you.


Wow, Scott Thompson really packed on a few pounds!
 
2014-06-10 02:45:38 PM  
You kick a dog enough time he'll stop shiatting on the carpet too.

Of course, what that really does is just convince your hound that the problem isn't shiatting on the carpet, it's being caught shiatting on the carpet.  Which is when the back of you couch starts smelling like an outhouse.

He says finding a fulfilling relationship in the "gay" world was a major issue for him

Really?  You don't say?  Trouble finding a gay significant other in North Texas?  Who'd thunk that?
 
2014-06-10 02:46:00 PM  
Ah yes, curing the gays.

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4265  -   "Curing" Gays
Do therapies intended to help gays become straight actually work?
Protip: No, no they do not.

tl; dr Audio  Podcast about 10 mins long -  http://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4265.mp3

Seriously, if you dont know about NARTH or Gay Cures, you owe it to yourself to give this a read or listen.
 
2014-06-10 02:46:25 PM  
That friend of Cathie's is Jeremy, a 36-year-old North Texan, who for fear of retaliation did not want his last name released.

Jeremy is a Roman Catholic and has started a religious ministry out of his house to help other gay men who may want to make the conversion. "It's called Joel 2:25 and is based on the idea of restoration."


Yeah, if you wanted to stay anonymous, you probably shouldn't have given that last bit of info, moron.

http://www.joel225.com/index.html
 
2014-06-10 02:48:24 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Cletus C.: UrukHaiGuyz: Is it just aversion therapy? How do they go about this deranged practice?

They sit in a circle.

Huh, I was imagining Clockwork Orange, but with gay porn instead of Beethoven.

/...is a sentence I never expected to type


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2014-06-10 02:48:31 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: That therapy must be surreal. If you're a straight guy, imagine some counselor trying to get you on board with the idea of a dick in your mouth. "Trace George Clooney's chiseled body for me. Imagine his firm hands on your buttocks."


img.fark.net
 
2014-06-10 02:49:36 PM  
However the change is not permanent, after a certain period of time the person will return to their natural instincts and then they will feel very, very guilty. They will feel that they have failed, if it was a spiritual counseling they will feel that god doesn't love them or they will have suicidal thoughts."

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"We've got another.  Room 22"
 
2014-06-10 02:49:38 PM  

SphericalTime: Hey look, it's another one guy who claims that reparative therapy helped him go from gay to bisexual, who just so coincidentally happens to work for a ministry that promotes it.

Even if reparative therapy worked, the rate of success is so infinitesimal that it doesn't come close to making up for the horrific mental damage that it does to the majority of people who go through it and "fail."

All of the reparative therapy practices know that too, because they don't release anything remotely resembling success rates and all of the people that are willing to publicly espouse it seem to have a financial or professional interest in making sure that people continue to believe that it works.  Seriously, see if you can find an ex-gay guy that isn't a paid spokesman, on the paid staff of a ministry or clinic, or hasn't written a book that he's peddling to "help others."


Um, from TFA, I'm pretty sure he runs it, not just "works for it". This is free advertising.
 
2014-06-10 02:51:06 PM  
So now he's only mostly gay.There's a big difference between mostly gay and all gay.
 
2014-06-10 02:51:11 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Huh, I was imagining Clockwork Orange, but with gay porn instead of Beethoven


upload.wikimedia.org

/just not complete without the image
 
2014-06-10 02:55:01 PM  

shastacola: So now he's only mostly gay.There's a big difference between mostly gay and all gay.


Mostly gay is slightly hetero. With all gay, well, with all gay there's usually only one thing you can do.
 
2014-06-10 02:57:47 PM  

Arachnophobe: shastacola: So now he's only mostly gay.There's a big difference between mostly gay and all gay.

Mostly gay is slightly hetero. With all gay, well, with all gay there's usually only one thing you can do.


He said "to blave", which means "too buff". So your friend was probably cheating at strip poker, and got caught...
 
2014-06-10 02:58:09 PM  
"I did for about 12 years actually, starting in high school and up until about 4 years ago," he says. "I lived a pretty active gay life, even though for me, it was something that never felt right."

They had a name for that in college. It's called "experimentation."
 
2014-06-10 03:00:59 PM  

gingerjet: FTFA "My attraction to my own gender has decreased a lot," Jeremy said. "And it has been about 4 years since I've had any interaction with any kind of gay relationship. And the desire for that is about half of what it used to be."

So - still gay.  How did that "therapy" work for you?


His decrease in being gay-active can be explained by aging alone. I don't see anywhere that he craves pussy.
 
2014-06-10 03:01:42 PM  

SphericalTime: Hey look, it's another one guy who claims that reparative therapy helped him go from gay to bisexual,


My reading of his claim is that he went from gay to less gay. He's not saying anything about how much he loves pussy.
 
2014-06-10 03:01:52 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: That therapy must be surreal. If you're a straight guy, imagine some counselor trying to get you on board with the idea of a dick in your mouth. "Trace George Clooney's chiseled body for me. Imagine his firm hands on your buttocks."


"Point on the George Clooney doll where the fabulous man touched you."
 
2014-06-10 03:01:55 PM  

Arachnophobe: shastacola: So now he's only mostly gay.There's a big difference between mostly gay and all gay.

Mostly gay is slightly hetero. With all gay, well, with all gay there's usually only one thing you can do.


Marry a turtle?
 
2014-06-10 03:04:32 PM  

Hickory-smoked: SphericalTime: Hey look, it's another one guy who claims that reparative therapy helped him go from gay to bisexual,

My reading of his claim is that he went from gay to less gay. He's not saying anything about how much he loves pussy.


So, wearing less designer clothing?
 
2014-06-10 03:10:23 PM  

Arachnophobe: shastacola: So now he's only mostly gay.There's a big difference between mostly gay and all gay.

Mostly gay is slightly hetero. With all gay, well, with all gay there's usually only one thing you can do.


Really? Seems to me you can give or receive.
 
2014-06-10 03:17:42 PM  

Hickory-smoked: SphericalTime: Hey look, it's another one guy who claims that reparative therapy helped him go from gay to bisexual,

My reading of his claim is that he went from gay to less gay. He's not saying anything about how much he loves pussy.


Why wouldn't he? It's got a face like a preacher and smells like a bear.
 
2014-06-10 03:20:15 PM  
"I tried gay affirming therapy and I realized that wasn't going to work at all."

"I started out with the premise that being gay was wrong, and then when I tried therapy to affirm being wrong it just didn't feel right!"
 
2014-06-10 03:25:14 PM  
Jeremy says he even sees himself married with a family and kids in the near future. "I would like that, yeah, I hope that happens someday. I think that's definitely a possibility for me."


Yup, that's gonna end well.....
 
2014-06-10 03:27:47 PM  
Penn & Teller's Bullshiat! had an episode on this.  They interviewed this "former" gay man who married & had kids and every single moment he was on screen felt 100% fake.  They had a shot of him walking in the park and even that was completely unnatural.  And that was the best "success" they could provide.
 
2014-06-10 03:28:11 PM  

Arachnophobe: Every time I see a picture of Marcus Bachmann I am amazed that he isn't just surrounded by cock.


Photoshop contest anyone?
 
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