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(Descrier)   Britain proposes fining drivers caught speeding £10,000 in attempt to make sure drivers caught speeding never, ever stop for the police   (descrier.co.uk) divider line 10
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2014-06-10 01:38:47 PM  
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Oh noes, they're putting up the maximum fine a court can impose for speeding!!

Basically, in the UK, if a speeding ticket makes it as far as court then it's only for one of the following reasons.

1) you pled not-guilty to the speeding ticket and therefore it goes to court (you'd have to have a damn good reason to do this usually)
2) you gave the policeman who pulled you over a massive amount of lip and he decided not to deal with it at the roadside.
3) You were going so far over the limit you've made a mockery of the law.

If you get caught by a speed camera you get sent a £75 fine in the post (unless #3 applies), which drops to £50 if you pay within 21 days
If you get pulled over they generally give you the choice of dealing with it at the roadside (again, £75 dropping to £50 for early payment) unless #2 or #3 applies (it's a post in fine, you don't give to the policemen)

Considering I got pulled over doing 120-something on the motorway (70mph limit) and got given a side of the road fine, it takes a LOT to get to court.
2014-06-10 12:51:42 PM  
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TheYeti: Tyrosine: dready zim: spawn73: A maximum of 10.000Pounds sounds low.

Why have a maximum, instead of garnishing a % of peoples wage?

should have the fine based on your wealth, not earnings.

This, but with a minimal threshold.

Sure, wealthy people pay more to provide an equal disincentive.

So, they should also be assigned less jail time for an equal offense because their time is worth more money and so they will require fewer days as a disincentive to commit a given crime.

Unless the argument is that rich people are bad or something, but I doubt it, since that would be a stupid generalization.


The argument is that the fines are a deterrent, and they are set such that the average person feels the impact but can still carry on. For example, if someone is making $30,000/yr, a $500 fine is significant, but not crippling, and serves as a reminder for the future. To someone making $3,000,000/yr the same fine is insignificant and they may see it simply as a trivial cost of engaging in a particular behavior. Increase the fine to $50,000 and it will have the same impact as the smaller fine did on the guy making less.


/ I believe some Finland has done this for some time.
2014-06-10 12:05:32 PM  
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shouldhavebeenathrow: gfid: Offender convicted of criminal damage or racially aggravated disorder would also face similar fines, with the penalties increased for each level of offence.

huh?

That means racially motivated threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour... Rather awkward phrasing though I agree.


It sounds more like someone who has a mental disorder that was aggravated by their skin color.

Fun fact:  In a recent survey 30% of Brits admitted to being at least a little racist.
2014-06-10 12:04:29 PM  
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I was driving from Florida to Kansas.  I sped the entire way, except for Georgia.  Not because of the fine amount, but because they actually enforce it.

For one part of the trip, I saw a sign which read $1,000 for littering.  I don't litter anyway, but I was careful not to even let a straw wrapper flutter out the window.
2014-06-10 11:56:21 AM  
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dready zim: spawn73: A maximum of 10.000Pounds sounds low.

Why have a maximum, instead of garnishing a % of peoples wage?

should have the fine based on your wealth, not earnings.


So, a person with no assets should pay how much?   1% of zero?
2014-06-10 11:50:39 AM  
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gfid: Offender convicted of criminal damage or racially aggravated disorder would also face similar fines, with the penalties increased for each level of offence.

huh?


"Offending immigrants?"
2014-06-10 11:48:11 AM  
1 votes:

dready zim: And this is in a country where it is ILLEGAL to propose laws or fines for the purpose of generating revenue...

The fines have to be to promote safety etc.

£100, £1000, £10,000 makes no difference whether someone speeds.


Horseshiat.

The level of punishment and perceieved odds of getting caught are absolutely factored into the decisions many (some people are retarded) people make.

I speed a lot. I wouldn't go a mile over if the fine were 10k.

/this is still a stupid idea unless it would only be applied to people going 30mph over on non-highways or something like that
2014-06-10 11:44:33 AM  
1 votes:
Offender convicted of criminal damage or racially aggravated disorder would also face similar fines, with the penalties increased for each level of offence.

huh?
2014-06-10 11:44:30 AM  
1 votes:
And this is in a country where it is ILLEGAL to propose laws or fines for the purpose of generating revenue...

The fines have to be to promote safety etc.

£100, £1000, £10,000 makes no difference whether someone speeds.
2014-06-10 11:42:02 AM  
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Crewmannumber6: Britain is covered with CCTV, they can do this without even going outside.


Good thing, cuz people will kill over that amount of money.
 
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