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(Boing Boing)   Game designers step up to challenge of building compelling games using just 32X32 pixel fields. You can now argue about lag and how much better these would play on a gaming PC rather than a console   (boingboing.net) divider line 26
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6010 clicks; posted to Main » on 10 Jun 2014 at 10:52 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-06-10 11:06:51 AM  
6 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: [img.diytrade.com image 500x499]
Nuff said. Your argument is invalid.


The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.
2014-06-10 02:54:03 PM  
2 votes:
Here is a more up to date PC vs. Console experience.  I have a PC and a Playstation; here is what I experience nowadays:

Play game on PC:
1. Click install on Steam
2. Come back in 4+ hours
3. Launch game
4. Have vague sense that you could make the game look better than the "detected" settings
5. Spend next 30 minutes looking at game tweak sights on how tweak the settings and what high res mods to install
6. Play game in 4 megapixel glory, smug in the knowledge the game is double the resolution of any console and looks far better thanks the fact that you can turn on AA, etc.
7. You never have to find a disc again and all updates happen in the background automatically

Play game on console:
1. Put in disc
2. Let game install for the next 30 minutes
3. Let game download and install the multi-gigabyte day 0 patch for the next 2 hours
4. Play game
5. Be annoyed at the lack of AA causing the game to be flickery mess, the inability to disable motion blur, etc.
6. Pray the game will be released on the PC do you don't have to put up with this
7. At least you can play from the couch
8. Next time you fire up the game wait for another 30 minutes while it downloads and installs the latest patch

In the end I do almost all of my gaming on the PC.
kab
2014-06-10 12:28:21 PM  
2 votes:

Nix Nightbird: The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.


For some game types, it is absolutely the best control scheme currently going.   For FPS and MMO games, the KB/M setup is going to be king for a very long time.

In fact, for any game where the positioning of your avatar or camera view is not limited to 2d, it's superior, as the speed of your camera or player rotation isn't fixed.   The same holds true for any game that doesn't have tab targeting.  The accuracy just pales in comparison to what a mouse offers.

Other game types?  Not so much.  A driving game with a mouse is generally a terrible experience.  Most 2d / platform games feel far better with a gamepad.

/use what works best
//built my current rig in December, it should last me quite a while.
2014-06-10 11:56:47 AM  
2 votes:
Console fanboys: hurrr dee durr durr
PC fanboys: wee dee bee dee durr

Normal people: We enjoy both, and that is awesome.
2014-06-10 10:58:29 AM  
2 votes:
not a whole lot of difference.  Both consoles are pretty much PCs right now.
2014-06-10 02:23:58 PM  
1 votes:

mjbok: LazarusLong42: I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

How come consoles don't have the option to control with a mouse/keyboard.  I would think this would bring in more converts, plus they could have more officially licensed peripherals.


Because thumbstick players get their asses handed to them in FPS games.
2014-06-10 02:03:12 PM  
1 votes:

Copperbelly watersnake: Mike_LowELL: The same week that E3 is unveiling the future of farking videogames and they're focused on this?

The future of video games is probably another couple years away as companies learn to make use of the new hardware. Right now, it seems to be mostly shinier versions of existing franchises.


Make use of the new hardware? You mean the three year old tech inside the Xbone and PS4 that is already failing to run at 1080p?
2014-06-10 01:30:31 PM  
1 votes:
Copperbelly watersnake: People finish Skyrim?

My thoughts exactly. I play it on xbox (so no mods other than official dlc, boooo!), and I've been playing literally for years. Hell, I still play Oblivion! Not all the time, mind you, but sometimes I just need to get my mead swilling, dragon killing, enemy shouting, ax swinging, epic fantasy fix.

And unlike competitors, in Skyrim I can usually be swinging my ax into someone's face within 30 seconds of the game loading. I can't wait until the next Elder Scrolls!
2014-06-10 12:13:44 PM  
1 votes:

Nix Nightbird: Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.


hacknmod.com
not sure if serious
2014-06-10 11:52:28 AM  
1 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: MythDragon: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console


/just sayin

PC Skyrim: Stick disc in. Configure. Install. Connect to server. Verify key code. If server is up, you may now play.
Console Skyrim: Stick disc in, start playing.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.
Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying

PC Skyrim, acknowledge the universe is waiting to take your game to the far reaches of imagination and back through the use of mods. Console Skyrim, it is a box.


Console game:Install once and play
PC Game:May or may not have to install multiple times just to get to the title screen. Also DRM.
2014-06-10 11:52:25 AM  
1 votes:

LazarusLong42: I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.



i.neoseeker.com

Was a real fun version.
2014-06-10 11:50:00 AM  
1 votes:

MythDragon: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console


/just sayin

PC Skyrim: Stick disc in. Configure. Install. Connect to server. Verify key code. If server is up, you may now play.
Console Skyrim: Stick disc in, start playing.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.
Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying


People finish Skyrim?

/Trying to get through the civil war as a Stormcloak, but dear gods Ulfric and his jarls are such complete arses.
2014-06-10 11:38:25 AM  
1 votes:

MythDragon: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console


/just sayin

PC Skyrim: Stick disc in. Configure. Install. Connect to server. Verify key code. If server is up, you may now play.
Console Skyrim: Stick disc in, start playing.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.
Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying


What's a "disc"?  My Skyrim was a digital download from steam.  And while you're right that I can't resell it, I get most games at deep discounts during holiday sales and the digital bits are still shiny and new, vs a used dvd for a console that may or may be dinged up.  Also, PC graphics >>>>>>>>>>>>> console.  Also, mods.

Also:

i42.tinypic.com
2014-06-10 11:24:43 AM  
1 votes:

MythDragon: Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console


/just sayin

PC Skyrim: Stick disc in. Configure. Install. Connect to server. Verify key code. If server is up, you may now play.
Console Skyrim: Stick disc in, start playing.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.
Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying


PC Skyrim, acknowledge the universe is waiting to take your game to the far reaches of imagination and back through the use of mods. Console Skyrim, it is a box.
2014-06-10 11:23:16 AM  
1 votes:

MythDragon: PC Skyrim: Finish game.


that's cute.  you think people don't play Skyrim for hundreds and hundreds of hours, that they complete the main 40 hour quest and stop.
2014-06-10 11:20:22 AM  
1 votes:

Nix Nightbird: InterruptingQuirk: [img.diytrade.com image 500x499]
Nuff said. Your argument is invalid.

The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.


I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to play Civ, nethack, WOW, StarCraft, SimCity, (I could go on) on a console, with no mouse to select things nor keyboard to give multiple different commands.

Any if those games with 10 buttons and a D-Pad would be an exercise in frustration.

/doesn't play FPS games
//slashes come in pairs, not threes.
2014-06-10 11:19:51 AM  
1 votes:

Rev.K: Skyrim PC > Skyrim console


/just sayin


PC Skyrim: Stick disc in. Configure. Install. Connect to server. Verify key code. If server is up, you may now play.
Console Skyrim: Stick disc in, start playing.

PC Skyrim: Finish game. Stick in a box in the attic.
Console Skyrim: Finish game. Sell or trade game in for something new.

/just saying
2014-06-10 11:14:03 AM  
1 votes:

Nix Nightbird: The mouse is a crappy way to control a game


You mean the smooth, controlled, sweeping motion that can be modified by the width of a pixel with the intuition of writing is subpar to the herky jerky, only made slightly smooth through the usage of aim-assist algorithms, all the while reminding one of the same old dick waggling joystick nonsense of 40 years ago? Hmm.
2014-06-10 11:10:26 AM  
1 votes:

Nix Nightbird: The mouse is a crappy way to control a game, and I say this as someone who has been gaming on everything-- PC included-- since PCs were invented. I say this as someone who built my own gaming rig.

Using a mouse to play a game means you're hunched over a desk with your face a few inches from a monitor. Using a game controller for PC games means you're able to recline on your couch and enjoy the big TV... yes, you can use your PC on the big TV with a mouse, but it's a real pain in the ass to use a mouse on a sofa without having to hunch over a table. Try using mouse & keyboard while reclining, with your feet up.

The only people who obsess about mouse & keyboard anymore are obsessive twitch FPS gamers who think circle-strafing is vitally important and who think winning a round of COD is some kind of grand honor... And frankly, most FPS games suck these days.


If you can't figure out how to comfortably get a mouse in your hand while relaxing on a couch then I fully agree:  You should stick to consoles.
2014-06-10 11:08:25 AM  
1 votes:

Dimensio: Is not that the entire Atari Lynx library?


Hey now... The Lynx was the only console that had that version of Gauntlet where you could play as a Nerd.
2014-06-10 10:57:58 AM  
1 votes:
32x32 pixels? That's not so bad. I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than 32x32 pixels.
2014-06-10 10:57:51 AM  
1 votes:

Jaden Smith First of His Name: Eventually we're going to get so retro that there will only be one big pixel.


And two paddles on the side?
2014-06-10 10:56:09 AM  
1 votes:
Eventually we're going to get so retro that there will only be one big pixel.
2014-06-10 10:03:31 AM  
1 votes:
img.diytrade.com
Nuff said. Your argument is invalid.
2014-06-10 09:54:23 AM  
1 votes:
I'd be more impressed if they also did it in 4 colours like we did back in the day.
2014-06-10 09:53:00 AM  
1 votes:
Skyrim PC > Skyrim console


/just sayin
 
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