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2014-06-10 01:25:24 PM  
Can't...summon...energy...to vote...or care...
 
2014-06-10 02:29:18 PM  

gopher321: Can't...summon...energy...to vote...or care...


Hudak it is, then.
 
2014-06-10 02:37:13 PM  
Quite frankly I can see a very low turnout for this election.  Even by the usual standards.

We're basically being asked to hold our nose and vote for the pile of crap that we think stinks the least.   I can't image how anybody can reasonably look at the three major parties and say "I think they'll do a good job running things."

/ still going to vote, always do.....
 
2014-06-10 02:40:45 PM  

funmonger: gopher321: Can't...summon...energy...to vote...or care...

Hudak it is, then.


I disagree.

If people do not care about the horrible wastes (e-health, oranj, gas plants, real estate) or the new costs (huge electrical and natural gas price increases) or the rationing of electrical power at various times during the day, or the huge loss of jobs and departure of industry to elsewhere, and the new burgeoning unemployment rates, or the fact that the province receives transfer payments (as opposed to before McGuinty when the province gave transfer payments) then I would say the current government would prevail, so Wynne it is, then.
 
2014-06-10 02:41:24 PM  
Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?
 
2014-06-10 02:45:44 PM  
we should have a World Cup every year so that these fancy lads don't wet their panties every four years, they can do it every year!

football (soccer) players/fans are more dramatic than Conservatives at a Benghazi hearing.
 
2014-06-10 02:55:52 PM  

Ring of Fire: Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?


World's game, son. Not like 'Rugby But For Scared People That Need To Wear Helmets And Padding' or Men's Rounders.
 
2014-06-10 02:58:23 PM  

Ring of Fire: Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?


No. A reporter in Toronto is assuming the whole province will act the same as that city. There are many immigrants in Toronto who are rabid fans of their former country's team. Meanwhile, in rural Ontario, very few people give a f**k.
 
2014-06-10 03:17:43 PM  

kpaxoid: funmonger: gopher321: Can't...summon...energy...to vote...or care...

Hudak it is, then.

I disagree.

If people do not care about the horrible wastes (e-health, oranj, gas plants, real estate) or the new costs (huge electrical and natural gas price increases) or the rationing of electrical power at various times during the day, or the huge loss of jobs and departure of industry to elsewhere, and the new burgeoning unemployment rates, or the fact that the province receives transfer payments (as opposed to before McGuinty when the province gave transfer payments) then I would say the current government would prevail, so Wynne it is, then.


http://behindthenumbers.ca/2011/04/14/who-benefits-from-low-voter-tu rn out/
 
2014-06-10 03:24:47 PM  

bingethinker: Ring of Fire: Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?

No. A reporter in Toronto is assuming the whole province will act the same as that city. There are many immigrants in Toronto who are rabid fans of their former country's team. Meanwhile, in rural Ontario, very few people give a f**k.


You have just experienced a small part of what us Prairie folk refer to as Western Alienation.  Welcome to the club!
 
2014-06-10 03:27:07 PM  
I wish the NDP and liberals (both provincial and national) would grow the fark up and start running candidates strategically in ridings, instead of splitting the vote and letting some asshole conservative come up the middle to win (with only a fraction of the votes that the left wing parties got).

I don't care which of the two wins as long those lying, shiatbag PC farks don't get within a hundred miles of wielding power. "Yeah let's fire a hundred thousand people in a province that already has a struggling economy with high unemployment." People who can even consider voting for those snake oil salesmen are too stupid/sociopathic to be allowed to have a say in the governing of the province.
 
2014-06-10 03:33:36 PM  
Whoever wins, we all lose. The choices are corrupt, stupid and completely clueless. I'm going to refuse my ballot.
 
2014-06-10 03:35:15 PM  

Glenford: Whoever wins, we all lose. The choices are corrupt, stupid and completely clueless. I'm going to refuse my ballot.


So you want Hudak to win.
 
2014-06-10 03:39:35 PM  

funmonger: Glenford: Whoever wins, we all lose. The choices are corrupt, stupid and completely clueless. I'm going to refuse my ballot.

So you want Hudak to win.


No, I want to let them all know that they suck. A refused ballot is counted as such versus a spoiled ballot.
 
2014-06-10 03:40:02 PM  

Plastic Trash Vortex: I wish the NDP and liberals (both provincial and national) would grow the fark up and start running candidates strategically in ridings, instead of splitting the vote and letting some asshole conservative come up the middle to win (with only a fraction of the votes that the left wing parties got).

I don't care which of the two wins as long those lying, shiatbag PC farks don't get within a hundred miles of wielding power. "Yeah let's fire a hundred thousand people in a province that already has a struggling economy with high unemployment." People who can even consider voting for those snake oil salesmen are too stupid/sociopathic to be allowed to have a say in the governing of the province.


Rewind on the national scale about 15 years and you could say the same thing about the right.

/the more things change, the more they stay the same.
 
2014-06-10 03:46:49 PM  

omelete: Quite frankly I can see a very low turnout for this election.  Even by the usual standards.

We're basically being asked to hold our nose and vote for the pile of crap that we think stinks the least.   I can't image how anybody can reasonably look at the three major parties and say "I think they'll do a good job running things."

/ still going to vote, always do.....


This.

I'll be voting though, if only to keep Hudak and his going-to-the-US-to-get-advice-from-the-Tea-Part ass out of office.

/fark Hudak
 
2014-06-10 04:03:26 PM  

Glenford: No, I want to let them all know that they suck. A refused ballot is counted as such versus a spoiled ballot.


It still means a win for Hudak, and nobody will know or care about your refused ballot.
 
2014-06-10 04:06:02 PM  
I'll drop this link again in case you missed it before.

Upshot: Hudak wins unless you vote, and vote against him.

Anything else, he wins. Sad but true.
 
2014-06-10 04:32:55 PM  
Something about a giant douche and a turn sandwich goes here... What do we make of our third party?  A kick in the cock and balls?  I'll be checking the "oh fark it, none of the above option", I think they call that "Green".

Decisions were easier when I lived Kormos's riding...and he was still alive.  He may have been NDP but he listened to his constituents and was one hell of a shiat disturber.
 
2014-06-10 04:50:23 PM  
I hope that vile coont Horwath is stripped of her citizenship and sent to pakistan.
 
2014-06-10 05:02:30 PM  

funmonger: I'll drop this link again in case you missed it before.

Upshot: Hudak wins unless you vote, and vote against him.

Anything else, he wins. Sad but true.


Ok, now I'm seriously pissed. I hadn't seen that before, and I also ran across this thread on reddit. It's looking more and more like this movement is being orchestrated by conservatives. fark 'em - not only am I going to vote against these ass-clowns I may even go knocking on doors.

It's a gigantic turd sandwich, but I'll have plug my nose and vote for the turd I know.
 
2014-06-10 05:05:30 PM  

Glenford: I also ran across this thread on reddit.


Came in to post this. 
Leaving satisfied.
Fark is thankfully smarter than me.
 
2014-06-10 05:32:09 PM  

funmonger: Glenford: I also ran across this thread on reddit.

Came in to post this. 
Leaving satisfied.
Fark is thankfully smarter than me.


Wow, and there's even more shenanigans going on:
http://metronews.ca/news/london/1061176/liberals-file-elections-cana da -complaint-over-letters-sent-to-london-north-centre-voters/
 
2014-06-10 05:39:03 PM  

funmonger: I'll drop this link again in case you missed it before.

Upshot: Hudak wins unless you vote, and vote against him.

Anything else, he wins. Sad but true.


I wonder when we'll evolve into the 21st century and start voting online from home?
 
2014-06-10 06:16:02 PM  

gopher321: Can't...summon...energy...to vote...or care...


You...might be a paid... shill and there is...a money...trail...very soon you...might be...subpoenaed if you are...because it is...a constitutional...grey area...if the parties can tell people not to vote.

I kid. But it does raise some questions about posts like yours, given the people phoning in to talk shows and whatnot.

We'll see how this claim gets sorted out in the next 24 hours. I am excited to see so many people not care all at the same time.

gopher321: I wonder when we'll evolve into the 21st century and start voting online from home?

With a complete lack of security? Fark that. Pencil, paper, no chance of a third party getting in the way.
 
2014-06-10 06:17:58 PM  

funmonger: kpaxoid: funmonger: gopher321: Can't...summon...energy...to vote...or care...

Hudak it is, then.

I disagree.

If people do not care about the horrible wastes (e-health, oranj, gas plants, real estate) or the new costs (huge electrical and natural gas price increases) or the rationing of electrical power at various times during the day, or the huge loss of jobs and departure of industry to elsewhere, and the new burgeoning unemployment rates, or the fact that the province receives transfer payments (as opposed to before McGuinty when the province gave transfer payments) then I would say the current government would prevail, so Wynne it is, then.

http://behindthenumbers.ca/2011/04/14/who-benefits-from-low-voter-tu rn out/


Shocker: The Conservatives (aka Republicans of the north) benefit from low turnout (just like the Republicans do).
 
2014-06-10 06:31:29 PM  
Geotpf: Shocker: The Conservatives (aka Republicans of the north) benefit from low turnout (just like the Republicans do).

Well, not in the same way. We do have a viable third option that is neither caught in massive, possibly criminal, scandals like the Liberals, and is not pitching totally discredited, impossible claims about jobs, like the Conservatives. The NDP. But for some reason, maybe the NDP's party leader just not being a good public speaker, maybe because Ontario just doesn't like the colour orange, the totally viable third party is not getting much love.

So it is a little bit more complicated. Part of the issue is that the Green Party is also, kind of, viable. They have some seats in various levels of government, and at the federal level their leader comes off to most Canadians as the most credible in parliamentary debates. It's like everyone reads her email fwd: fwd: fwd:, then uses that information to vote for other parties.

So there is an theory that Ontarians are "parking their vote" with the Green Party, because that's an accepted Thing here (to show support for the Greens as a kind of virtuous underdog without actually acting on it on election day). That gives the Greens unrealistically high numbers, until election day when they will vote for the actual party they think is strategic. And the NDP gets left in the lurch, because the only really strategic votes are Liberal or Conservative, for forming the government. The best an NDP seat will do is stop somebody else, but it won't win the election.
 
2014-06-10 07:19:47 PM  
Canadian politics are adorable
 
2014-06-10 07:28:01 PM  

funmonger: I'll drop this link again in case you missed it before.

Upshot: Hudak wins unless you vote, and vote against him.

Anything else, he wins. Sad but true.


I so agree.
 
2014-06-10 07:50:27 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: Geotpf: Shocker: The Conservatives (aka Republicans of the north) benefit from low turnout (just like the Republicans do).

Well, not in the same way. We do have a viable third option that is neither caught in massive, possibly criminal, scandals like the Liberals, and is not pitching totally discredited, impossible claims about jobs, like the Conservatives. The NDP. But for some reason, maybe the NDP's party leader just not being a good public speaker, maybe because Ontario just doesn't like the colour orange, the totally viable third party is not getting much love.

So it is a little bit more complicated. Part of the issue is that the Green Party is also, kind of, viable. They have some seats in various levels of government, and at the federal level their leader comes off to most Canadians as the most credible in parliamentary debates. It's like everyone reads her email fwd: fwd: fwd:, then uses that information to vote for other parties.

So there is an theory that Ontarians are "parking their vote" with the Green Party, because that's an accepted Thing here (to show support for the Greens as a kind of virtuous underdog without actually acting on it on election day). That gives the Greens unrealistically high numbers, until election day when they will vote for the actual party they think is strategic. And the NDP gets left in the lurch, because the only really strategic votes are Liberal or Conservative, for forming the government. The best an NDP seat will do is stop somebody else, but it won't win the election.


This is why we desperately need to get rid of Weeners the post.
 
2014-06-10 07:51:09 PM  
Ha!
 
2014-06-10 10:30:07 PM  

Ring of Fire: Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?


nope.  Not on a thursday.
 
2014-06-10 10:32:08 PM  

Plastic Trash Vortex: I wish the NDP and liberals (both provincial and national) would grow the fark up and start running candidates strategically in ridings, instead of splitting the vote and letting some asshole conservative come up the middle to win (with only a fraction of the votes that the left wing parties got).

I don't care which of the two wins as long those lying, shiatbag PC farks don't get within a hundred miles of wielding power. "Yeah let's fire a hundred thousand people in a province that already has a struggling economy with high unemployment." People who can even consider voting for those snake oil salesmen are too stupid/sociopathic to be allowed to have a say in the governing of the province.


og yeah..  vote the NDP in.. you too can be Manitoba
 
2014-06-10 11:47:36 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: bingethinker: Ring of Fire: Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?

No. A reporter in Toronto is assuming the whole province will act the same as that city. There are many immigrants in Toronto who are rabid fans of their former country's team. Meanwhile, in rural Ontario, very few people give a f**k.

You have just experienced a small part of what us Prairie folk refer to as Western Alienation.  Welcome to the club!


It's not so much western alienation as Toronto Thinks It's the Centre of the Universe.
 
2014-06-10 11:55:45 PM  

bingethinker: Representative of the unwashed masses: bingethinker: Ring of Fire: Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?

No. A reporter in Toronto is assuming the whole province will act the same as that city. There are many immigrants in Toronto who are rabid fans of their former country's team. Meanwhile, in rural Ontario, very few people give a f**k.

You have just experienced a small part of what us Prairie folk refer to as Western Alienation.  Welcome to the club!

It's not so much western alienation as Toronto Thinks It's the Centre of the Universe.


same thing different term.
 
2014-06-11 12:21:49 AM  
Watching soccer is like watching grass grow, with soccer players in the way.

/I think that might be Colbert
 
2014-06-11 01:22:43 AM  

theotherlondon: funmonger: I'll drop this link again in case you missed it before.

Upshot: Hudak wins unless you vote, and vote against him.

Anything else, he wins. Sad but true.

I so agree.


If he does it'll be a minority.  He's pissing off a lot of people and even his own hired guns are telling him that "Hudak Math" is bullshiat.  Mind you it would be hilarious to see Timmy go hat in hand to the NDP for votes on his budgets.
 
2014-06-11 08:54:38 AM  
Bennie Crabtree:
Well, not in the same way. We do have a viable third option that is neither caught in massive, possibly criminal, scandals like the Liberals, and is not pitching totally discredited, impossible claims about jobs, like the Conservatives. The NDP. But for some reason, maybe the NDP's party leader just not being a good public speaker, maybe because Ontario just doesn't like the colour orange, the totally viable third party is not getting much love.

I think the main issue with the NDP is they're still reeling from 1990-1995.  Many Ontarians of a certain age and above are still pissed at the Rae government and they've never really been able to recover from it.  Many people I've talked to who were around for it are "Been there, not doing that again."  So, for them, the choice is Liberal or Tory.  People have long memories.

I'm still going NDP because they're the pile of crap that smells the least this time around and my local candidate is a decent and smart guy but I'm not enthused by any of the three parties, their leaders, or their platforms.
 
2014-06-11 10:41:30 AM  

webhamster: People have long memories


More like selective memories.  People crap all over Rae but conveniently forget about the Social Contract.  The same people who crap on Rae and are voting Hudak conveniently forget how unbelievably shiatty things got under Harris, in the name of "common sense".

I honestly hope that this election ends up in a Liberal majority.  I don't want to reward them for their behaviour, but I want it to be seen as an outright rejection of the abject farking insanity that is Tim Hudak's stupid farkface debunked-a-million-times job plan, and I want Andrea Horwath to get the message that she was a farking idiot for calling an election over a budget that was about the closest thing to an NDP budget that will get passed this decade.
 
2014-06-11 10:50:58 AM  

GavinTheAlmighty: webhamster: People have long memories

More like selective memories.  People crap all over Rae but conveniently forget about the Social Contract.  The same people who crap on Rae and are voting Hudak conveniently forget how unbelievably shiatty things got under Harris, in the name of "common sense".

I honestly hope that this election ends up in a Liberal majority.  I don't want to reward them for their behaviour, but I want it to be seen as an outright rejection of the abject farking insanity that is Tim Hudak's stupid farkface debunked-a-million-times job plan, and I want Andrea Horwath to get the message that she was a farking idiot for calling an election over a budget that was about the closest thing to an NDP budget that will get passed this decade.


I was talking to my dad about about that very thing yesterday.  She was playing politics with that BS when she should have called Wynns bluff and backed that bill 100%  It's like these morons in the NDP have no clue how "Orange Crush" came about in the first place.
 
2014-06-11 01:16:06 PM  

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: Ha!


That was awesome.

webhamster: Many people I've talked to who were around for it are "Been there, not doing that again."  So, for them, the choice is Liberal or Tory.  People have long memories.

I'm still going NDP because they're the pile of crap that smells the least this time around and my local candidate is a decent and smart guy but I'm not enthused by any of the three parties, their leaders, or their platforms.


Oh man, as if we haven't done the Tory or Grit thing over and over.

I think that Ontario voters who cast a ballot for their conscience instead of strategically this time are being quite brave. There are a lot of jobs on the line!
 
2014-06-11 03:12:16 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: bingethinker: Representative of the unwashed masses: bingethinker: Ring of Fire: Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?

No. A reporter in Toronto is assuming the whole province will act the same as that city. There are many immigrants in Toronto who are rabid fans of their former country's team. Meanwhile, in rural Ontario, very few people give a f**k.

You have just experienced a small part of what us Prairie folk refer to as Western Alienation.  Welcome to the club!

It's not so much western alienation as Toronto Thinks It's the Centre of the Universe.

same thing different term.


I guess what I'm pointing out here is that it's not just the west that's alienated. It's central Canada too, and the rest of the country. Typical of a westerner to assume that Toronto represents all of Ontario.
 
2014-06-11 04:25:30 PM  

bingethinker: Representative of the unwashed masses: bingethinker: Representative of the unwashed masses: bingethinker: Ring of Fire: Are that really that many people in Canada that care about a Brazil Croatia soccer game? I mean do the shut down the cities for something like that?

No. A reporter in Toronto is assuming the whole province will act the same as that city. There are many immigrants in Toronto who are rabid fans of their former country's team. Meanwhile, in rural Ontario, very few people give a f**k.

You have just experienced a small part of what us Prairie folk refer to as Western Alienation.  Welcome to the club!

It's not so much western alienation as Toronto Thinks It's the Centre of the Universe.

same thing different term.

I guess what I'm pointing out here is that it's not just the west that's alienated. It's central Canada too, and the rest of the country. Typical of a westerner to assume that Toronto represents all of Ontario.


Well you all do look alike and drink Blue  so it's understandable I think
 
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