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2014-06-10 02:44:08 AM
I support powdered alcohol on the grounds that I can now say "This is pure, liquid alcohol" about stuff.  Mostly alcohol.  Okay, just alcohol.
 
2014-06-10 07:43:21 AM
ok, TFA has a point about liquid being lighter and taking up less volume, but you can only bring 3.4 ounces through the TSA line in a shampoo bottle.  Powdered alcohol definitely has an advantage in that department.
 
2014-06-10 07:52:25 AM
I like my alcohol like I like my women.
 
2014-06-10 07:55:20 AM

serial_crusher: ok, TFA has a point about liquid being lighter and taking up less volume, but you can only bring 3.4 ounces through the TSA line in a shampoo bottle.  Powdered alcohol definitely has an advantage in that department.


Because the TSA and DEA are totally fine with large quantities of white powder.
 
2014-06-10 08:08:20 AM
Never heard of this before. Is it something you mix with another beverage to make it alcoholic, or something you snort? Or both?
 
2014-06-10 08:10:11 AM

Sybarite: I like my alcohol like I like my women.


Encased in glass?
 
2014-06-10 08:13:39 AM
Hi Everyone!

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So here's a benefit of powdered alcohol, if you spill it... you can use either a sponge or a broom to clean it up. See it's a benefit because of... reasons.
 
2014-06-10 08:35:02 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Hi Everyone!

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I'm cute and bubbly but

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So here's a benefit of powdered alcohol, if you spill it... you can use either a sponge or a broom to clean it up. See it's a benefit because of... reasons.


You forgot about the luscious melons.  From her sex show she seems to enjoy sex.

I would so penis her, just for everyone's information.

About the video, the guy seems smart, but kind of a dick.
 
2014-06-10 08:36:48 AM

serial_crusher: ok, TFA has a point about liquid being lighter and taking up less volume, but you can only bring 3.4 ounces through the TSA line in a shampoo bottle.  Powdered alcohol definitely has an advantage in that department.


Yeah

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2014-06-10 08:39:04 AM
You're expressly not supposed to snort it!

Ask the idiot Vice writer who did it anyway for reasons.
 
2014-06-10 08:43:29 AM
I was prepared to reference Thunderf00t's video on the subject. Then I clicked the link and discovered that doing so would be unnecessary.

"Powdered" alcohol is a "very bad idea" because it is a stupid gimmick.
 
2014-06-10 08:52:42 AM

staplermofo: Sybarite: I like my alcohol like I like my women.

Encased in glass?


strong enough to knock you on your ass after the first hit?
 
2014-06-10 08:58:46 AM

Sybarite: I like my alcohol like I like my women.


Wet?
 
2014-06-10 09:00:04 AM

Sybarite: I like my alcohol like I like my women.


So.... you don't drink?
 
2014-06-10 09:06:18 AM
Counterpoint: it's much easier to hide a packet on your person than a bottle, even a small one.
 
2014-06-10 09:08:26 AM
I would recommend NO ON TRY THIS EVER AS IT TASTES GROSS AND IS HIGHLY FLAMMABLE. Mix N-Zobit M (very finely milled tapioca maltodextrin) with anhydrous ethanol (Everclear run through zeolite to dehydrate it). Make sure you keep it in a sealed container with dessicant as it will absorb water from the air and clump. It tastes like nasty burning crap.
 
2014-06-10 09:16:08 AM
I like alcohol like I like my babies.   Shaken not sturred.
 
2014-06-10 09:52:59 AM
Was there a problem with plain old liquid alcohol that needed to be solved? Because I really don't think you are going to improve on a good scotch by making it in powdered form.
 
2014-06-10 09:54:17 AM

Sybarite: I like my alcohol like I like my women.


Dehydrated, ground up, and snorted up your schnoz?
 
2014-06-10 10:03:46 AM

Sybarite: I like my alcohol like I like my women.


Dark, Cold, and Bitter?
 
2014-06-10 10:20:13 AM
Has anyone estimated the shipping savings of sending powder versus liquid? They have to be significant. As I understand it, you get approximately the same alcohol per serving, but powder is lighter than liquid so even if you aren't being more efficient in alcohol per serving, you're getting much lighter by sending powder and adding water on the other end.
 
2014-06-10 10:23:06 AM
In other news Boxxy is now a reporter.
 
2014-06-10 10:27:02 AM

AmazinTim: Has anyone estimated the shipping savings of sending powder versus liquid? They have to be significant. As I understand it, you get approximately the same alcohol per serving, but powder is lighter than liquid so even if you aren't being more efficient in alcohol per serving, you're getting much lighter by sending powder and adding water on the other end.


You didn't watch the long boring nearly-15 minute long video in which he keeps repeating himself over and over and could have been condensed to about 2 minutes, did you?
 
2014-06-10 10:34:34 AM

nekom: serial_crusher: ok, TFA has a point about liquid being lighter and taking up less volume, but you can only bring 3.4 ounces through the TSA line in a shampoo bottle.  Powdered alcohol definitely has an advantage in that department.

Because the TSA and DEA are totally fine with large quantities of white powder.


Ha!  I entered this thread to say both of the above things.

Good work covering for me, guys.
 
2014-06-10 10:45:38 AM

Sybarite: I like my alcohol like I like my women.


12 years old and mixed up with coke?
 
2014-06-10 10:47:45 AM

AmazinTim: Has anyone estimated the shipping savings of sending powder versus liquid? They have to be significant. As I understand it, you get approximately the same alcohol per serving, but powder is lighter than liquid so even if you aren't being more efficient in alcohol per serving, you're getting much lighter by sending powder and adding water on the other end.


Just send Everclear 190 (as pure alcohol as you can get with standard distillation) in a plastic bottle and it's even lighter.
 
2014-06-10 11:17:13 AM

EvilEgg: AmazinTim: Has anyone estimated the shipping savings of sending powder versus liquid? They have to be significant. As I understand it, you get approximately the same alcohol per serving, but powder is lighter than liquid so even if you aren't being more efficient in alcohol per serving, you're getting much lighter by sending powder and adding water on the other end.

Just send Everclear 190 (as pure alcohol as you can get with standard distillation) in a plastic bottle and it's even lighter.


Yeah...the pure amount of physics breaking ignorance around this topic is really starting to annoy me.  If you start with a gallon of liquid and "absorb" it into a powder, what you end up with is going to weigh an amount equal to the gallon of alcohol you started with plus however much powder you used.  If you want to reduce the weight of an alcohol shipment, you have to distill it.  We figured this out hundreds of years ago; that is why we have brandy.
 
2014-06-10 11:23:52 AM

AmazinTim: Has anyone estimated the shipping savings of sending powder versus liquid? They have to be significant. As I understand it, you get approximately the same alcohol per serving, but powder is lighter than liquid so even if you aren't being more efficient in alcohol per serving, you're getting much lighter by sending powder and adding water on the other end.


I'm guessing the riddle, "what weighs more: a hundred pounds of bricks or a hundred pounds of feathers" always stumped you as a kid.
 
2014-06-10 11:26:20 AM

StrangeQ: EvilEgg: AmazinTim: Has anyone estimated the shipping savings of sending powder versus liquid? They have to be significant. As I understand it, you get approximately the same alcohol per serving, but powder is lighter than liquid so even if you aren't being more efficient in alcohol per serving, you're getting much lighter by sending powder and adding water on the other end.

Just send Everclear 190 (as pure alcohol as you can get with standard distillation) in a plastic bottle and it's even lighter.

Yeah...the pure amount of physics breaking ignorance around this topic is really starting to annoy me.  If you start with a gallon of liquid and "absorb" it into a powder, what you end up with is going to weigh an amount equal to the gallon of alcohol you started with plus however much powder you used.  If you want to reduce the weight of an alcohol shipment, you have to distill it.  We figured this out hundreds of years ago; that is why we have brandy.


You could ship the yeast and sugar.   That would reduce the weight.
 
2014-06-10 11:35:44 AM

nekom: Because the TSA and DEA are totally fine with large quantities of white powder.


Whenever my momgoes on a trip, she like to bring laundry detergent so she can wash her clothes herself and not have to use hotel laundry. She invariably packs it in a zip lock bag and the family has to remind her that carrying a massive bag of white powder may result in travel delays should the authorities see it.

That or my mom keeps pounds of cocaine in a box marked "Tide".

/cocaine story, bro!
 
2014-06-10 12:45:49 PM

HeartBurnKid: Counterpoint: it's much easier to hide a packet on your person than a bottle, even a small one.


But liquids can also be contained in bags.
 
2014-06-10 12:53:14 PM

spawn73: HeartBurnKid: Counterpoint: it's much easier to hide a packet on your person than a bottle, even a small one.

But liquids can also be contained in bags.


I read this in Sir Bedevere's voice.
 
2014-06-10 12:56:15 PM

HeartBurnKid: Counterpoint: it's much easier to hide a packet on your person than a bottle, even a small one.


Get any number of flexible containers designed to be hidden on your person for the almost express purpose of bringing alcohol into establishments. Because even with the powder, still need to mix in another container with water, and the amount of alcohol is minimal. Any venue with overpriced alcohol where bringing powdered alcohol in may be thought of as a savings will have overpriced bottles of water. Let us assume you refill the bottle at a water fountain. You still need, due to the alcohol by volume, to use almost four packets of powdered alcohol for the same amount of alcohol as many spirits. You are buying a bottle of water and four packets then having to consume four bottles of water, refill each time, and mix for an equivalent buzz.

Easier to hide? Sure, easier to hide one packet than one small bottle. But this effort for one packet of alcohol... may as well leave the alcohol. Besides, the producers note the packets are fairly large, 4"x6"; concealing is rather hard.
 
2014-06-10 12:59:50 PM

AmazinTim: Has anyone estimated the shipping savings of sending powder versus liquid? They have to be significant. As I understand it, you get approximately the same alcohol per serving, but powder is lighter than liquid so even if you aren't being more efficient in alcohol per serving, you're getting much lighter by sending powder and adding water on the other end.


You have to add the weight of the dehydrated water too.
 
2014-06-10 01:03:52 PM
Why is it a bad idea?? Well for most Farkers we might turn into..

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2014-06-10 01:40:45 PM
I used to think that "dry beer" (remember that?) was something akin to beer-flavored
Kool-Aid....it wasn't a great idea then, either.
 
2014-06-10 02:09:49 PM

AmazinTim: Has anyone estimated the shipping savings of sending powder versus liquid? They have to be significant. As I understand it, you get approximately the same alcohol per serving, but powder is lighter than liquid so even if you aren't being more efficient in alcohol per serving, you're getting much lighter by sending powder and adding water on the other end.


Alcohol is a liquid. There's nothing to "powder". It's not like Kool-Aid.
 
2014-06-10 04:30:47 PM

poot_rootbeer: You're expressly not supposed to snort it!

Ask the idiot Vice writer who did it anyway for reasons.


I snorted vodka back in college once. That was plenty. I can imagine the powder form would be even worse. Not because it gets you more drunk, but because it gets stronger as it dissolves and doesn't simply make the inside of your skull feel like it's suddenly on fire and drain out due to gravity.
 
2014-06-10 04:37:14 PM
If you need to powder your alcohol and sneak it around, you really have a problem.
 
2014-06-10 04:42:23 PM
Also, you would need to snort a wine glass full of powdered alcohol to feel the effects of a glass of wine.
 
2014-06-10 06:43:11 PM
Dude needs to drop the bass on his VO, and learn to breathe properly when he speaks.
 
2014-06-10 07:04:29 PM

Iplaybass: Dude needs to drop the bass on his VO, and learn to breathe properly when he speaks.


You have to allow Thunderf00t a few problems in his presentation, not the least of which is his coming across as an ass, due to his broad yet deep knowledge and means of argumentation.
 
2014-06-10 07:17:00 PM
Ship some over to that Shoenice guy to snort...
 
2014-06-10 08:08:53 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Hi Everyone!

[i0.wp.com image 639x351]
I'm cute and bubbly but

[images.medicaldaily.com image 639x351]
Kinda Stoo'pid. So it's easy to rip my ideas to shreds.


So here's a benefit of powdered alcohol, if you spill it... you can use either a sponge or a broom to clean it up. See it's a benefit because of... reasons.


What do you have against Laci Green?
 
2014-06-10 09:36:01 PM

Alien Robot: What do you have against Laci Green?


Everything.
 
2014-06-11 01:25:16 AM

serial_crusher: ok, TFA has a point about liquid being lighter and taking up less volume, but you can only bring 3.4 ounces through the TSA line in a shampoo bottle.  Powdered alcohol definitely has an advantage in that department.


You may bring up to 10 mini-shot bottles on a flight in the usa.

/you're welcome
 
2014-06-11 07:33:14 AM

Vangor: not the least of which is his coming across as an ass,


I didn't get him as coming over as an ass..

due to his broad yet deep knowledge

oh yeah, I forgot that holding knowledge over ignorance is considered 'being an ass' in some continents

and means of argumentation.

Ok, he was a touch demonstrative in the video, but to be fair, the average audience on youtube needs that for facts to sink in, otherwise it's just a 'troll' or FAKE
 
2014-06-11 02:26:59 PM
FTA: "You would have to snort a wine glass full of it to get as intoxicated as you would on one glass of wine definitely not fun."

Well then...
Nope.
 
2014-06-11 03:13:02 PM
The only use I see for this is for people like me: I often find myself traveling to conventions at hotels, and powdered alcohol has less chance of breaking open and spilling in my backpack.  It's a fringe benefit at best, and a niche crowd to be sure.
 
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