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(Think Progress)   Congressman: Well, if humans are the cause of global warming, then how did dinosaurs go extinct? Checkmate   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 228
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2014-06-09 09:59:03 PM  
The dinosaurs were doing fine until one of them decided vaccinations cause autism. Then they were wiped out in a measles epidemic.
 
2014-06-09 10:02:24 PM  

SkinnyHead: SomeoneDumb: SkinnyHead: ...Just because this comes as news to her does not mean that most people don't know it,

First, no one can know something that isn't true.

Second, I think it's highly likely that most people (the majority of people) who have any idea about it believe the meteor theory.

I think most paleontologists side with the gradual climate change hypothesis as the best explanation for dinosaur extinction.


Does that make it most likely true?
 
2014-06-09 10:02:49 PM  

SkinnyHead: SomeoneDumb: SkinnyHead: ...Just because this comes as news to her does not mean that most people don't know it,

First, no one can know something that isn't true.

Second, I think it's highly likely that most people (the majority of people) who have any idea about it believe the meteor theory.

I think most paleontologists side with the gradual climate change hypothesis as the best explanation for dinosaur extinction.


For those of you who are unfamiliar with SkinnyHead, he is saying what killed the dinosaurs is the change in climate caused by the asteroid(or was it a meteor? I can never remember which is which) strike. He is, as usual, arguing from the position of being technically correct, which we all know is the best type of correct.
 
2014-06-09 10:04:02 PM  

notto: Noam Chimpsky: Global warming has slowed during the last hundred years compared to the previous hundred years ( before cars, industry, etc ).

Glacier Bay, AK..... Checkmate.

No, really, it's checkmate. Go educate yourself on how Glacier Bay came into existence. Hint: It wasn't a bay in 1800. It's empirical evidence that the climate hoaxers are full of shiat and really nothing more need be said.

So, this single data point in a single geological point in the world is a checkmate?  You really don't understand how science works, do you?  Read a book.

You are exactly the same kind of dim thinker as the congressman in the article.


I was going to post something similar but I realized it would be pointless.  May I suggest the point and laugh approach.
 
2014-06-09 10:05:04 PM  
grumpfuff:

For those of you who are unfamiliar with SkinnyHead, he is saying what killed the dinosaurs is the change in climate caused by the asteroid(or was it a meteor? I can never remember which is which) strike. He is, as usual, arguing from the position of being technically correct, which we all know is the best type of correct.

Yet he ignores scientific consensus elsewhere?  What an idiot.
 
2014-06-09 10:07:02 PM  
mrshowrules:

I was going to post something similar but I realized it would be pointless.  May I suggest the point and laugh approach.

How about point, laugh, and debunk.

http://www.nps.gov/glba/naturescience/climate-change.htm
www.nps.gov
Warming is more pronounced at higher latitudes. Over the past 50 years Alaska's annual average temperature has increased at more than twice the rate of the rest of the United States' average, and here in Southeast Alaska winters are 5 degrees warmer. Glacier Bay is expected to become warmer and drier over the next century. Widespread effects in Alaska include earlier spring snowmelt, reduced sea ice, shrinking glaciers, melting permafrost, bark beetle infestations, shoreline erosion, and more forest fires.
 
2014-06-09 10:08:49 PM  

notto: So, this single data point in a single geological point in the world is a checkmate?  You really don't understand how science works, do you?


Maybe he's just really, really bad at chess.
 
2014-06-09 10:10:53 PM  
Real reason dinosaurs went extinct:
www.blastr.com
 
2014-06-09 10:12:09 PM  

fusillade762: notto: So, this single data point in a single geological point in the world is a checkmate?  You really don't understand how science works, do you?

Maybe he's just really, really bad at chess.


static.guim.co.uk
 
2014-06-09 10:13:10 PM  

notto: SkinnyHead: SomeoneDumb: SkinnyHead: ...Just because this comes as news to her does not mean that most people don't know it,

First, no one can know something that isn't true.

Second, I think it's highly likely that most people (the majority of people) who have any idea about it believe the meteor theory.

I think most paleontologists side with the gradual climate change hypothesis as the best explanation for dinosaur extinction.

Does that make it most likely true?


No, it means that the congressman was stating a point of view that has strong scientific support.  Think Progress, as usual, don't know what they're talking about.
 
2014-06-09 10:13:52 PM  

mrshowrules: Noam Chimpsky: Global warming has slowed during the last hundred years compared to the previous hundred years ( before cars, industry, etc ).

Glacier Bay, AK..... Checkmate.

No, really, it's checkmate. Go educate yourself on how Glacier Bay came into existence. Hint: It wasn't a bay in 1800. It's empirical evidence that the climate hoaxers are full of shiat and really nothing more need be said.

So we should study it out?


I studied it out and all I found was the National Park Service describing the effects climate change is having there ...
 
2014-06-09 10:15:13 PM  

notto: Noam Chimpsky: Global warming has slowed during the last hundred years compared to the previous hundred years ( before cars, industry, etc ).

Glacier Bay, AK..... Checkmate.

No, really, it's checkmate. Go educate yourself on how Glacier Bay came into existence. Hint: It wasn't a bay in 1800. It's empirical evidence that the climate hoaxers are full of shiat and really nothing more need be said.

So, this single data point in a single geological point in the world is a checkmate?  You really don't understand how science works, do you?  Read a book.

You are exactly the same kind of dim thinker as the congressman in the article.


But but but... Books teach communism!
 
2014-06-09 10:15:29 PM  

notto: mrshowrules:

I was going to post something similar but I realized it would be pointless.  May I suggest the point and laugh approach.

How about point, laugh, and debunk.

http://www.nps.gov/glba/naturescience/climate-change.htm
[www.nps.gov image 844x384]
Warming is more pronounced at higher latitudes. Over the past 50 years Alaska's annual average temperature has increased at more than twice the rate of the rest of the United States' average, and here in Southeast Alaska winters are 5 degrees warmer. Glacier Bay is expected to become warmer and drier over the next century. Widespread effects in Alaska include earlier spring snowmelt, reduced sea ice, shrinking glaciers, melting permafrost, bark beetle infestations, shoreline erosion, and more forest fires.


doh! Too slow.
 
2014-06-09 10:19:12 PM  

mrshowrules: spongeboob: Mantour: [i.imgur.com image 800x647]

Um aren't dinosaurs related to birds, birds have a cloaca so wouldn't have dinosaurs have had a cloaca?


How can it be sodomy to place a penis in a cloaca?


/

How can it not be sodomy?


So you are saying sodomy can lead to sexual reproduction, how else are there baby birds and snakes?
 
2014-06-09 10:19:40 PM  
Welp, that's it for me folks... The level of derp has finally exceeded my theoretical limit. If you need me I'll be busy inventing and building a rocket capable of taking me to Mars and letting me live there or possibly some other world in a far off solar system that hopefully has intelligent life that's beyond derping just to try and out derp everyone else... If a miricle happens and the "other half" suddenly come to their senses before I leave please let me know so I can die of a heart attack due to the shock and die happy knowing sanity has returned.
 
2014-06-09 10:20:10 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Global warming has slowed during the last hundred years compared to the previous hundred years ( before cars, industry, etc ).

Glacier Bay, AK..... Checkmate.

No, really, it's checkmate. Go educate yourself on how Glacier Bay came into existence. Hint: It wasn't a bay in 1800. It's empirical evidence that the climate hoaxers are full of shiat and really nothing more need be said.


That and the industrial revolution started in 1760.
 
2014-06-09 10:20:27 PM  
I thought Miller's picture looked familiar.  It's being used to illustrate the word "idiot" in the latest edition of Webster's Dictionary.
 
2014-06-09 10:21:02 PM  
SkinnyHead:

No, it means that the congressman was stating a point of view that has strong scientific support.  Think Progress, as usual, don't know what they're talking about.

Impact from an extra-terrestrial body is not earths natural climate.    The congressman was not referring to an extra-terrestrial body impact by anybodys reading and specifically mentions 'global warming' and suggests that it caused the demise of the dinosaurs.  He is an idiot.
 
2014-06-09 10:21:28 PM  

notto: mrshowrules:

I was going to post something similar but I realized it would be pointless.  May I suggest the point and laugh approach.

How about point, laugh, and debunk.

http://www.nps.gov/glba/naturescience/climate-change.htm
[www.nps.gov image 844x384]
Warming is more pronounced at higher latitudes. Over the past 50 years Alaska's annual average temperature has increased at more than twice the rate of the rest of the United States' average, and here in Southeast Alaska winters are 5 degrees warmer. Glacier Bay is expected to become warmer and drier over the next century. Widespread effects in Alaska include earlier spring snowmelt, reduced sea ice, shrinking glaciers, melting permafrost, bark beetle infestations, shoreline erosion, and more forest fires.


There is no "debunking".  The truth is not the goal.  The goal is to keep the political debate away from what can be done about it.  As long as you can even pretend that global warming is not real or not manmade, the longer you can prevent doing something about it.  Too that extent, they won around two decades ago until today.
 
2014-06-09 10:22:11 PM  

yakmans_dad: spongeboob: And for us to say that it is a settled argument right now I think, again, is a foolish argument to make, because there are scientists on both sides of the issue that say that's it's not settled.

1) You might learn to fly as you leap off a building. It's possible. So, you're going to jump off a building, right? You obviously don't abandon prudence based upon fragments of a possibility in 99.99999999% of your life. Why do you do so regarding AGW?

2) The words "settled argument" are misleading. Science proceeds by evidence. Not argument.  For what issues do you think the evidence is lacking? What evidence do you pose against it? After all scientific skepticism isn't the philosophical skepticism of David Hume or Bishop Berkeley. Science depends upon evidence not the terrier like persistence of a lawyer shaking the last nickel from a sucker.


You do know that I was quoting from the article and that my own remarks were actually pointing out that most of the scientists who claim that Global Warming is not happening are not climatologists?
 
2014-06-09 10:22:26 PM  

spongeboob: mrshowrules: spongeboob: Mantour: [i.imgur.com image 800x647]

Um aren't dinosaurs related to birds, birds have a cloaca so wouldn't have dinosaurs have had a cloaca?


How can it be sodomy to place a penis in a cloaca?


/

How can it not be sodomy?

So you are saying sodomy can lead to sexual reproduction, how else are there baby birds and snakes?


If Jesus is in your heart and you don't enjoy it, you can reproduce by butt sex.
 
2014-06-09 10:22:46 PM  

notto: grumpfuff:

For those of you who are unfamiliar with SkinnyHead, he is saying what killed the dinosaurs is the change in climate caused by the asteroid(or was it a meteor? I can never remember which is which) strike. He is, as usual, arguing from the position of being technically correct, which we all know is the best type of correct.

Yet he ignores scientific consensus elsewhere?  What an idiot.


SH's opinion on scientific consensus is dependent on what he can troll the hardest with. This thread happens to be one where he is concern trolling about being technically correct.
 
2014-06-09 10:23:51 PM  

notto: Noam Chimpsky: Global warming has slowed during the last hundred years compared to the previous hundred years ( before cars, industry, etc ).

Glacier Bay, AK..... Checkmate.

No, really, it's checkmate. Go educate yourself on how Glacier Bay came into existence. Hint: It wasn't a bay in 1800. It's empirical evidence that the climate hoaxers are full of shiat and really nothing more need be said.

So, this single data point in a single geological point in the world is a checkmate?  You really don't understand how science works, do you?  Read a book.

You are exactly the same kind of dim thinker as the congressman in the article.


It's the one "data point" that actually happened, as opposed to theoretical shiat and the imagination of doomsayers and self-serving hoaxers. I'm saying that it is empirical evidence that warming has slowed during the last century ( the carbon footprint century ) as opposed to the previous century based on the documented timeline of Glacier Bay. But feel free to make your case as to how the Glacier Bay timeline doesn't prove that warming has slowed during the last hundred years.
 
2014-06-09 10:26:57 PM  

mrshowrules: spongeboob: mrshowrules: spongeboob: Mantour: [i.imgur.com image 800x647]

Um aren't dinosaurs related to birds, birds have a cloaca so wouldn't have dinosaurs have had a cloaca?


How can it be sodomy to place a penis in a cloaca?


/

How can it not be sodomy?

So you are saying sodomy can lead to sexual reproduction, how else are there baby birds and snakes?

If Jesus is in your heart and you don't enjoy it, you can reproduce by butt sex.


well I hope those girls practicing Saddlebacking don't enjoy it then.
 
2014-06-09 10:28:47 PM  
Noam Chimpsky:But feel free to make your case as to how the Glacier Bay timeline doesn't prove that warming has slowed during the last hundred years.

You need to make our case first.  You haven't How does this one point prove that warming has slowed during the last hundred years?

Please be specific and use things like actual temperature measurements and stuff.  Go on, get to the proof!  You are just making a claim without actually demonstrating it.

How does this single data point discount all other actual data points from the entire world.  Come on, go and demonstrate how that is?  Your argument is clearly laughable at even it's most basic premise.
 
2014-06-09 10:29:05 PM  

notto: mrshowrules:

I was going to post something similar but I realized it would be pointless.  May I suggest the point and laugh approach.

How about point, laugh, and debunk.

http://www.nps.gov/glba/naturescience/climate-change.htm
img.fark.net
Warming is more pronounced at higher latitudes. Over the past 50 years Alaska's annual average temperature has increased at more than twice the rate of the rest of the United States' average, and here in Southeast Alaska winters are 5 degrees warmer. Glacier Bay is expected to become warmer and drier over the next century. Widespread effects in Alaska include earlier spring snowmelt, reduced sea ice, shrinking glaciers, melting permafrost, bark beetle infestations, shoreline erosion, and more forest fires.


Look at how chilly and uninviting the world looked back in those primitive 'THEN' times.  Now, examine how pleasantly warm and much more inviting the world is 'NOW'.  We've moved from a frigid, immobile environment of poor technology and repression in to a relaxed, modern time of freedom, prosperity and casual sex with strangers.

Kudos, humanity, on conquering Nature!

/unless you thing those graphics perhaps over-dramatize the prevailing conditions in each case
//naw!
 
2014-06-09 10:29:25 PM  

spongeboob: mrshowrules: spongeboob: mrshowrules: spongeboob: Mantour: [i.imgur.com image 800x647]

Um aren't dinosaurs related to birds, birds have a cloaca so wouldn't have dinosaurs have had a cloaca?


How can it be sodomy to place a penis in a cloaca?


/

How can it not be sodomy?

So you are saying sodomy can lead to sexual reproduction, how else are there baby birds and snakes?

If Jesus is in your heart and you don't enjoy it, you can reproduce by butt sex.

well I hope those girls practicing Saddlebacking don't enjoy it then.


I wonder how one would go about meeting those girls for you know, Bible study and so on.
 
2014-06-09 10:31:47 PM  
TheOther:

/unless you thing those graphics perhaps over-dramatize the prevailing conditions in each case
//naw!


If you consider constructing a graph that can easily be used to identify data differences in a specific set of data as 'dramatization' then you may not understand the actual purpose of putting data in graphs.
 
2014-06-09 10:35:00 PM  

spongeboob: SkinnyHead: spongeboob: SkinnyHead: A liberal at Think Progress doesn't understand how science works. News at 11

Do you really believe the crap you post or you some kind of troll performance art?

The liberal who wrote this article said: "While the implication that natural changes in the earth's climate caused dinosaur extinction is a new one to most people...."  How does she know that it's new to most people?  Just because this comes as news to her does not mean that most people don't know it.  That's what I'm getting at.

Wait you think that science believes that dinosaurs were killed off by natural changes in the Earth's climate and not by an asteroid strike that started a new ice age?


Actually, there is evidence that some if not most dinosaurs were on the decline when the asteroid hit 65 Million years ago. It is not certain what happened to them at this point.
 
2014-06-09 10:37:19 PM  
Zeppelininthesky:

Actually, there is evidence that some if not most dinosaurs were on the decline when the asteroid hit 65 Million years ago.

Really?  Do you have a link or reference for that?
 
2014-06-09 10:40:51 PM  

notto: SkinnyHead:

No, it means that the congressman was stating a point of view that has strong scientific support.  Think Progress, as usual, don't know what they're talking about.

Impact from an extra-terrestrial body is not earths natural climate.    The congressman was not referring to an extra-terrestrial body impact by anybodys reading and specifically mentions 'global warming' and suggests that it caused the demise of the dinosaurs.  He is an idiot.


There are two schools of thought on this.  There are gradualists & catastrophists.  Gradualists believe that gradual climate change over a long period of time caused dinosaur extinction.  Most paleontologists side with gradualism.  You seem to be a proponent of catastrophism, i.e., blaming comets, asteroids, meteors, floods and the like.  Catastrophism  is popular amongst astronomers and creation scientists.   I'm not taking sides in the matter, I'm just saying that the Congressman's view has strong scientific support and that Think Progress looks foolish.
 
2014-06-09 10:40:57 PM  
"If them Sandy Hook kids were killed by guns, then how do you explain all the children who died before gunpowder was invented?"
 
2014-06-09 10:43:02 PM  

SkinnyHead:  Most paleontologists side with gradualism.


No, they don't.  Name a recent, well published, working paleontologists who sides with gradualism.
 
2014-06-09 10:43:13 PM  

notto: Noam Chimpsky:But feel free to make your case as to how the Glacier Bay timeline doesn't prove that warming has slowed during the last hundred years.

You need to make our case first.  You haven't How does this one point prove that warming has slowed during the last hundred years?

Please be specific and use things like actual temperature measurements and stuff.  Go on, get to the proof!  You are just making a claim without actually demonstrating it.

How does this single data point discount all other actual data points from the entire world.  Come on, go and demonstrate how that is?  Your argument is clearly laughable at even it's most basic premise.


Noam Chimpsky is a "birther". He is, therefore, mentally ill. Do not expect rational thought from him.
 
2014-06-09 10:44:40 PM  

notto: Zeppelininthesky:

Actually, there is evidence that some if not most dinosaurs were on the decline when the asteroid hit 65 Million years ago.

Really?  Do you have a link or reference for that?


Okay, maybe not "most", but the larger herbivore dinosaurs and some others were.  http://www.amnh.org/our-research/science-news/2012/were-dinosaurs-und e rgoing-long-term-decline-before-mass-extinction
 
2014-06-09 10:45:56 PM  

mrshowrules: spongeboob: mrshowrules: spongeboob: mrshowrules: spongeboob: Mantour: [i.imgur.com image 800x647]

Um aren't dinosaurs related to birds, birds have a cloaca so wouldn't have dinosaurs have had a cloaca?


How can it be sodomy to place a penis in a cloaca?


/

How can it not be sodomy?

So you are saying sodomy can lead to sexual reproduction, how else are there baby birds and snakes?

If Jesus is in your heart and you don't enjoy it, you can reproduce by butt sex.

well I hope those girls practicing Saddlebacking don't enjoy it then.

I wonder how one would go about meeting those girls for you know, Bible study and so on.


Here or here
 
2014-06-09 10:48:22 PM  

SkinnyHead: notto: SkinnyHead:

No, it means that the congressman was stating a point of view that has strong scientific support.  Think Progress, as usual, don't know what they're talking about.

Impact from an extra-terrestrial body is not earths natural climate.    The congressman was not referring to an extra-terrestrial body impact by anybodys reading and specifically mentions 'global warming' and suggests that it caused the demise of the dinosaurs.  He is an idiot.

There are two schools of thought on this.  There are gradualists & catastrophists.  Gradualists believe that gradual climate change over a long period of time caused dinosaur extinction.  Most paleontologists side with gradualism.  You seem to be a proponent of catastrophism, i.e., blaming comets, asteroids, meteors, floods and the like.  Catastrophism  is popular amongst astronomers and creation scientists.   I'm not taking sides in the matter, I'm just saying that the Congressman's view has strong scientific support and that Think Progress looks foolish.


Creationism is not science.
 
2014-06-09 10:48:30 PM  
Zeppelininthesky:

Okay, maybe not "most", but the larger herbivore dinosaurs and some others were.

From your link
The researchers found that hadrosaurs and ceratopsids, two groups of large-bodied, bulk-feeding herbivores-animals that did not feed selectively-may have experienced a decline in biodiversity in the 12 million years before the dinosaurs ultimately went extinct. In contrast, small herbivores (ankylosaurs and pachycephalosaurs), carnivorous dinosaurs (tyrannosaurs and coelurosaurs), and enormous herbivores without advanced chewing abilities (sauropods) remained relatively stable or even slightly increased in biodiversity.
 
2014-06-09 10:50:03 PM  

SkinnyHead: There are two schools of thought on this.  There are gradualists & catastrophists.  Gradualists believe that gradual climate change over a long period of time caused dinosaur extinction.  Most paleontologists side with gradualism


You've said this several times without evidence, which leads me to believe you're full of sh*t.
 
2014-06-09 10:51:16 PM  

Pocket Ninja: I know you're being snarky, subby, but the sad truth is that when snark begins to obscure an important truth, it ceases to be funny and begins to be sad. You see, the truth is that global warming  did kill the dinosaurs, but it was a different kind of global warming than what is killing us. You see,  ourglobal warming is caused by burning fossil fuels, which are called fossil fuels because -- and if you didn't know this before, it may stun you, but I really want to help you understand this cycle --  the fuel actually comes from dinosaur fossils. That's right. The dinosaurs died millions of years ago, and their bones turned into carbon, and some of that carbon turned into diamonds and the rest turned into oil.

But dinosaurs were cold-blooded, you might say.  Why would burning their fossils make it hot?

That's a good question, and the answer is because of geological pressure. See, the dinosaurs' fossils went underground after they died. Sometimes they were buried in landslides and things, and sometimes they drowned and the lake dried up and filled with dirt. Irregardless, once their bones got buried, all that dirt on top of them compressed them and made them warmer (this was also caused by the fossils being closer to the magma, which I'll explain in the next paragraph). This is why it gets hot when you burn them.

Now, obviously, the dinosaurs didn't cause their global warming by burning fossil fuels. It would be stupid to even suggest that, because back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, there weren't any fossils yet. They hadn't died off! No, what happened to the dinosaurs had more to do with  geology than anything else. You see, what you have to understand is that the earth was younger back then, only a few thousand years old. And, like all young things (children, puppies, etc.), it wasn't completely stable. Its crust hadn't hardened all the way. Did you know the earth has a crust? It does -- it has a very thin surface of rocks and dirt and grass that we walk on, but underneath that is a boiling mass of magma, which is like rocks except on fire. So back in the days of the dinosaurs, the earth's crust was very brittle, sort of like a pie that's been baking for a while, where the crust looks crispy, but is really very thin and prone to cracking.

So, imagine it...you've got a young, brittle, fragile earth with a very thin crust, and lots of dinosaurs that keep getting bigger and bigger. Huge, in fact -- I mean, they went from little amphibians  that weren't much bigger than chickens to brontosauruses and t-rexes. So what do you think happened when all those huge beasts started stomping around on the earth's brittle crust?

That's right --  geological events. You've heard of them -- earthquakes, landslides, volcanic eruptions. And whenever one of these would happen, the dinosaurs would get scared, which ironically would make them run even faster, which in turn caused even  moregeological disruptions -- what scientists call a "feedback loop." So basically the dinosaurs stomped and stampeded around enough that the whole world started erupting, which put lots of smoke and lava into the air, which caused it to get very hot. In other words, global warming. ]

As an example of proof supporting this, here's an artist's rendition of the earliest stages of that massive disaster:  http://www.zmescience.com/science/geology/volcanic-eruption-triassic- e xtinction-22032013/#!WMNdK .

So here we are, then, with the irony of the repetitive nature of history staring us in the face. The dinosaurs caused their own extinction by getting too big, and then failing to recognize that it was their own panicked reaction to the effects that was pushing them into oblivion. And now there's us, all these years later, and we're bringing about our own extinction by becoming too big (as a society) and failing to act in time.  And we're doing it all by burning the very species that went extinct originally. That's irony, subby. That's deep, dirty irony. You don't need snark to make it any more poignant than it is.


I want to frame this and hang it on the wall. Truly a thing of beauty.
 
2014-06-09 10:51:51 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: SkinnyHead: There are two schools of thought on this.  There are gradualists & catastrophists.  Gradualists believe that gradual climate change over a long period of time caused dinosaur extinction.  Most paleontologists side with gradualism

You've said this several times without evidence, which leads me to believe you're full of sh*t.


SH is full of shiat?

Quick, help me find my fainting couch.
 
2014-06-09 10:52:49 PM  
img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-06-09 10:56:41 PM  
Is there a collection, somewhere, of the greatest, stupidest quotations by conservatives? Things on par with this?

/by Liberals, too, if that makes you feel good
 
2014-06-09 10:57:32 PM  

notto: Zeppelininthesky:

Okay, maybe not "most", but the larger herbivore dinosaurs and some others were.

From your link
The researchers found that hadrosaurs and ceratopsids, two groups of large-bodied, bulk-feeding herbivores-animals that did not feed selectively-may have experienced a decline in biodiversity in the 12 million years before the dinosaurs ultimately went extinct. In contrast, small herbivores (ankylosaurs and pachycephalosaurs), carnivorous dinosaurs (tyrannosaurs and coelurosaurs), and enormous herbivores without advanced chewing abilities (sauropods) remained relatively stable or even slightly increased in biodiversity.


Sorry, that was the wrong link, but I guess it is interesting. Next time I will read my links before posting them to Fark. This is the one I was talking about.  http://www.nhm.ac.uk/about-us/news/2009/april/dinosaurs-declined-befo r e-mass-extinction31031.html
 
2014-06-09 11:00:05 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Is there a collection, somewhere, of the greatest, stupidest quotations by conservatives? Things on par with this?

/by Liberals, too, if that makes you feel good


A Fark Politics thread?
 
2014-06-09 11:00:47 PM  

notto: SkinnyHead:  Most paleontologists side with gradualism.

No, they don't.  Name a recent, well published, working paleontologists who sides with gradualism.


I don't know them by name, I just know about the controversy between gradualism and catastrophism, and that paleontologists tend to favor gradualism.  Geologists are evenly split.  Plus, I read it on the internet.
 
2014-06-09 11:00:51 PM  

notto: Noam Chimpsky:But feel free to make your case as to how the Glacier Bay timeline doesn't prove that warming has slowed during the last hundred years.

You need to make our case first.  You haven't How does this one point prove that warming has slowed during the last hundred years?


It's the most well documented instance of climate change ever, documented by people in real time, specifically the naturalist John Muir. No tea leaves or proxies needed. It's the most dramatic instance of climate change that humans have witnessed.  The transformation from glacier to bay has a documented timeline that is now over 200 years long.
 
2014-06-09 11:02:16 PM  

SkinnyHead: notto: SkinnyHead:  Most paleontologists side with gradualism.

No, they don't.  Name a recent, well published, working paleontologists who sides with gradualism.

I don't know them by name, I just know about the controversy between gradualism and catastrophism, and that paleontologists tend to favor gradualism.  Geologists are evenly split.  Plus, I read it on the internet.


You don't always admit that you're trolling. I'll give you that one because you did pretty well there.
 
2014-06-09 11:02:31 PM  

notto: Zeppelininthesky:

Okay, maybe not "most", but the larger herbivore dinosaurs and some others were.

From your link
The researchers found that hadrosaurs and ceratopsids, two groups of large-bodied, bulk-feeding herbivores-animals that did not feed selectively-may have experienced a decline in biodiversity in the 12 million years before the dinosaurs ultimately went extinct. In contrast, small herbivores (ankylosaurs and pachycephalosaurs), carnivorous dinosaurs (tyrannosaurs and coelurosaurs), and enormous herbivores without advanced chewing abilities (sauropods) remained relatively stable or even slightly increased in biodiversity.


I know there are a lot of different ideas about this, but we still don't know *why* some declined.
 
2014-06-09 11:06:01 PM  

SkinnyHead: notto: SkinnyHead:  Most paleontologists side with gradualism.

No, they don't.  Name a recent, well published, working paleontologists who sides with gradualism.

I don't know them by name, I just know about the controversy between gradualism and catastrophism, and that paleontologists tend to favor gradualism.  Geologists are evenly split.  Plus, I read it on the internet.


I know a few paleontologists in real life and none of them actually side with gradualism.
 
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