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2014-06-09 01:39:37 PM  
i.imgur.com

Yeah she does funny things to me too


wait what?! Sorry I misunderstood
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-06-09 01:43:19 PM  
What would happen if I were to boil Poison Ivy leaves and drink it like tea? - the classic, birth of the oil hitting the anus

Link seems to want a login/password for gamefest.com - just cancel that.
 
2014-06-09 01:52:06 PM  
Huh, I wonder why, if this oil is so potent, that one in five people (myself included) aren't allergic.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-06-09 02:37:09 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [i.imgur.com image 500x750]
Yeah she does funny things to me too ,,,wait what?! Sorry I misunderstood


Man, she can give me a rash any time!
 
2014-06-09 02:37:40 PM  
BS. Your blood does not carry the chemical to other parts of your body, you got the chemical on you and didn't wash it off. Had it many times, as soon as you know you've been in it, wash the area.


click the link and get:
Health: Dermatology; With Poison Ivy, Timing Is Everything
By GINA KOLATA
Published: July 14, 1988
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-06-09 03:00:47 PM  
Also, I'm not sure that's poison ivy in the picture.  I've never seen poison oak, but that is what I think that is.
 
2014-06-09 03:10:45 PM  
Hard to tell, but from this pic:

www.uofmhealth.org

It looks more like poison ivy than poison oak.
 
2014-06-09 03:27:40 PM  
i522.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-09 03:39:18 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-06-09 04:00:50 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: It looks more like poison ivy than poison oak.


poison ivy  also poison ivy poison ivy again

The third picture is from around my neck of the woods.  I think that the picture in the article is poison ivy, after looking at your picture and some others.  For the purpose of an informative article, the picture they chose, "poison ivy in the Fall" was probably not the best.  Perhaps I don't live in the right climate, or perhaps I have just ignored it all my life, but I do not think I have seen leaves of poison ivy changing colors.  The same goes for Virginia Creeper, which is commonly thought to be poison ivy, but with 5 leaves.
 
2014-06-09 04:21:12 PM  

whyRpeoplesostupid: BS. Your blood does not carry the chemical to other parts of your body, you got the chemical on you and didn't wash it off. Had it many times, as soon as you know you've been in it, wash the area.


click the link and get:
Health: Dermatology; With Poison Ivy, Timing Is Everything
By GINA KOLATA
Published: July 14, 1988


^^ This.  That poison ivy gets into the bloodstream and spreads to other areas of the body is an Old Wives Tale.
 
2014-06-09 04:21:56 PM  
"go see a doctor" ?? When i was a kid we got stung by poison ivy and we just dealt with it.
 
2014-06-09 04:24:53 PM  
Please, God, let this be true:  Poison ivy vaccine shows promise
 
2014-06-09 04:29:29 PM  

xkillyourfacex: "go see a doctor" ?? When i was a kid we got stung by poison ivy and we just dealt with it.


Same here. You went in the woods and didn't pay attention. Now your life is going to suck for a week. Suck it up and deal with it. Repeat every summer until you either develop some kind of resistance or you learn your lesson. Personally, I developed something of a resistance. Poison Ivy doesn't affect me nearly as bad now as when I was a kid.
 
2014-06-09 04:31:00 PM  
Myth 4. Poison ivy enters the blood stream and can be carried to other parts of the body where it can outbreak later.
False. Poison ivy rash is caused by contact with an oil (uroshiol) from the poison ivy plant. The oil attaches to the outer horny skin cells and the layer of living cells below. Washing with soap and water to remove the oil is an effective control, but such washing normally has to be done within minutes to avoid any rash at all. In addition, washing must be far more thorough than we normally wash our hands in order to be effective.
Outbreaks on other body areas means the oil was transferred to that area from another body part, by articles of clothing, tools, or pets that held the same oil. Remember, it's the contact with the uroshiol oil that causes the reaction. This oil is essentially nonvolatile and can remain on articles and clothing for as much as a year.

http://extension.psu.edu/pests/ipm/pestproblemsolver/house/home-gard en /weeds/poison-ivy-myths
 
2014-06-09 04:40:40 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Please, God, let this be true:  Poison ivy vaccine shows promise


Immune.

/never had the oil hit the anus, though
 
2014-06-09 04:44:27 PM  
I believe that I am immune to poison ivy. But in case I've just been lucky for 51 years in a row, I still never touch the stuff. Just to be on the safe side.
 
2014-06-09 04:53:49 PM  
Just as an FYI for everyone discussing their immunity - most people are immune/low reactive for their first few exposures. However, over repeated exposure you're likely to develop a response. So lots of "immune" people are merely lucky enough to have a longer time before developing a reaction, but do end up getting it after X number of years of exposure.
 
2014-06-09 04:55:06 PM  
So just eat a lot of low quality beef products and whole milk and things pumped with antibiotics and steroid counter-weights already. Then assault your organs by working out and getting drunk, so the bloodpressure release of laying down somewhere drains the higher grade immune cells and their corrosive abilities. Once that is finished days or weeks later, reintroduce the rash while standing and with low blood pressure to an ass cheek, then sear it and clean with peroxide.

That's what I think I would have to do if I ever get the very noticable rash, I think I gained an early immunity in some unusual way but I still avoid PI just because. If I were immune and somehow spreading it through the dusty places I traverse, it would not end well for anyone slightly sensitive.

Since it sounds like a chemical-virus though, maybe instead of steroid flushing, they could do something like fatcell excercise, like intentionally induce obesity-quality fatcell growth to lock in and take care of relocating volatile toxins to a disposal conveyor.
 
2014-06-09 04:55:48 PM  

Tiberius Gracchus: Just as an FYI for everyone discussing their immunity - most people are immune/low reactive for their first few exposures. However, over repeated exposure you're likely to develop a response. So lots of "immune" people are merely lucky enough to have a longer time before developing a reaction, but do end up getting it after X number of years of exposure.


I was super-sensitive as a kid and got it every summer. Now I barely get spots from it. And it's not from lack of exposure. It grows in my yard despite my best efforts.
 
2014-06-09 05:00:33 PM  
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2014-06-09 05:01:23 PM  
We always put Calamine Lotion on poison ivy.  When I was a kid you'd see people walking around with pink all over them from that stuff.  Eventually there was colorless Calamine, so that was much better.
 
amo [TotalFark]
2014-06-09 05:05:30 PM  

cgraves67: Tiberius Gracchus: Just as an FYI for everyone discussing their immunity - most people are immune/low reactive for their first few exposures. However, over repeated exposure you're likely to develop a response. So lots of "immune" people are merely lucky enough to have a longer time before developing a reaction, but do end up getting it after X number of years of exposure.

I was super-sensitive as a kid and got it every summer. Now I barely get spots from it. And it's not from lack of exposure. It grows in my yard despite my best efforts.


I've always been allergic to it, repeated exposure from childhood on has done nothing to desensitize me to it. I'm pretty sure I can look at the stuff and get a rash. I've gotten smoke from burning poison ivy on my face and ended up with it in my eyes (thank god I didn't inhale). And I used to have a cat that must have loved rolling in the stuff, because she'd bring the oil in on her coat and I'd end up with a rash.
 
2014-06-09 05:09:55 PM  

cgraves67: Tiberius Gracchus: Just as an FYI for everyone discussing their immunity - most people are immune/low reactive for their first few exposures. However, over repeated exposure you're likely to develop a response. So lots of "immune" people are merely lucky enough to have a longer time before developing a reaction, but do end up getting it after X number of years of exposure.

I was super-sensitive as a kid and got it every summer. Now I barely get spots from it. And it's not from lack of exposure. It grows in my yard despite my best efforts.


It can go the other way too, though that might have less to do with exposure and more to an adult vs kid immune system (lots of allergies can change from childhood/adulthood). Just worked with too many people who were jauntily "immune" to the stuff, look in confused horror at the pustules on their arms and legs with no idea how it could have happened.
 
2014-06-09 05:17:37 PM  
Good news everyone!

If you have it really bad you can also get a rash from:
ecofrenfood.files.wordpress.com and mangozz.com
because they also have urushiol in them.
 
2014-06-09 05:19:16 PM  
I'll never know this itchy pain. Hate me, for I do not get reactions to mosquitos, poison ivy, or poison oak.
 
amo [TotalFark]
2014-06-09 05:20:50 PM  

Tiberius Gracchus: It can go the other way too, though that might have less to do with exposure and more to an adult vs kid immune system (lots of allergies can change from childhood/adulthood).


I've also known people who had a massive exposure to become immune. A friend of mine in grade school was convinced by his older brother to eat some of it, ended up in the hospital, and as a result, could roll in the stuff and not get the rash.

That being said, the plural of anecdote is not data. ;)
 
2014-06-09 05:24:33 PM  

amo: Tiberius Gracchus: It can go the other way too, though that might have less to do with exposure and more to an adult vs kid immune system (lots of allergies can change from childhood/adulthood).

I've also known people who had a massive exposure to become immune. A friend of mine in grade school was convinced by his older brother to eat some of it, ended up in the hospital, and as a result, could roll in the stuff and not get the rash.

That being said, the plural of anecdote is not data. ;)


Le Sigh. Lazy Citations.
 
amo [TotalFark]
2014-06-09 05:32:30 PM  

Tiberius Gracchus: amo: That being said, the plural of anecdote is not data. ;)

Le Sigh. Lazy Citations.


I was referring my my anecdote, not yours. It's perfectly plausible that human immune systems change as they age. ;)
 
2014-06-09 05:42:55 PM  
You're gonna need an ocean of calamine lotion
You'll be scratchin' like a hound
The minute you start to mess around
 
2014-06-09 06:26:27 PM  
"So when you see a poison ivy rash, get a shot, and stop your immune system from collaborating with the enemy."

Because why be itchy for a couple days when you could also have meningitis for free?
 
2014-06-09 06:28:10 PM  

cgraves67: xkillyourfacex: "go see a doctor" ?? When i was a kid we got stung by poison ivy and we just dealt with it.

Same here. You went in the woods and didn't pay attention. Now your life is going to suck for a week. Suck it up and deal with it. Repeat every summer until you either develop some kind of resistance or you learn your lesson. Personally, I developed something of a resistance. Poison Ivy doesn't affect me nearly as bad now as when I was a kid.


I am the opposite. When I was a kid, I never got more than perhaps a single, small itchy bump. I could and would touch it, run through it, lay down on it, all in the name of freaking people out. And yes, I'm absolutely certain I know what poison ivy is -- trust me, I'm a plant person and always have been.

As an adult, my resistance has faded. Perhaps due to the lack of regular exposure. It seems to take a bit more work than just casually brushing up against a leaf, but when I do get it, it usually affects a small area, typically on my arms or ankles/feet.

I have family members who are highly sensitive to it, and regularly get break outs, presumably from second hand exposure (i.e. kids, clothes, pets). I can tell it's miserable for them. For me, it's somewhat annoying to, at times, a little cathartic since I get that wonderful feeling from a satisfying scratch.
 
2014-06-09 06:55:27 PM  
i heard that if you eat a lot of cashews you become immune to Poison Oak, which we have here in beautiful Calif, no Poison Ivy
 
2014-06-09 07:12:02 PM  

amo: Tiberius Gracchus: It can go the other way too, though that might have less to do with exposure and more to an adult vs kid immune system (lots of allergies can change from childhood/adulthood).

I've also known people who had a massive exposure to become immune. A friend of mine in grade school was convinced by his older brother to eat some of it, ended up in the hospital, and as a result, could roll in the stuff and not get the rash.

That being said, the plural of anecdote is not data. ;)


Like how I became immune to rabies!
 
2014-06-09 07:17:08 PM  
I have had poison ivy (or their more sinister relatives poison oak or sumac, possibly) bad a few times.  When I was in elementary school, God knows what the fark I had been doing, because my eyes swelled shut and I was a wreck.  A few doses of cortisone, and wee, the poison ivy went away.  I caught it bad again in high school, but not as bad as one of my mates, who had the eyes-swollen-shut nonsense going on.  Now, I just don't go outside :)
 
2014-06-09 07:26:47 PM  
southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2014-06-09 07:27:58 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: because they also have urushiol in them.


Well. that explains why my sister used to get rashes after peeling mangos.
 
2014-06-09 08:58:54 PM  
 
2014-06-09 09:02:14 PM  
 
2014-06-09 09:06:50 PM  
 
2014-06-09 09:09:46 PM  
Not sure what's going on here, but I know it's NSFW
(billed as Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy)

Bonus NSFW TMNT
(hey, they're green.)
 
2014-06-09 09:13:42 PM  
And just because I'm not the type of farker who knows when to say when...

I know it's Marvel instead of DC, but you know you've wondered what it would be like if Hulk and She Hulk did the nasty.
Not safe (for work, your childhood, copyrights, pretty much not safe for anything)
 
2014-06-09 09:14:16 PM  

mcmnky: [25.media.tumblr.com image 600x553]

Possibly pushing NSFW-ness

Definitely NSFW


I love how Harley's like "Really? Right here? But there are people watching!"
 
2014-06-09 09:23:04 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Please, God, let this be true:  Poison ivy vaccine shows promise


Wait...what?  So what shots did I get in the early 80s?

As a kid I had bad reactions to poison ivy.  Like head to toe everything covered in rash.

For three years I got weekly shots.  Starting late winter, every Saturday, first year it was 12 shots; second year 8 shots; third year 4 shots, if I remember correctly.

After the first year my issues with poison ivy drastically decreased.  Of course this was also about the time I was getting older and nerdier, and computers and video games would getting more popular, so I was spending less time traipsing through the infected woods.

So if the vaccine for poison ivy is coming out now, what shots was I getting 30 years ago?

I think I need to have a conversation with my parents. o_O
 
2014-06-09 09:26:23 PM  

BrundleFlyForAWhiteGuy: mcmnky: [25.media.tumblr.com image 600x553]

Possibly pushing NSFW-ness

Definitely NSFW

I love how Harley's like "Really? Right here? But there are people watching!"


bloodrose.bubble.ro
 
2014-06-09 11:08:07 PM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: Good news everyone!

If you have it really bad you can also get a rash from:
[ecofrenfood.files.wordpress.com image 518x388] and [mangozz.com image 554x415]
because they also have urushiol in them.


This.  I'm fortunate in that apparently poison ivy/oak/sumac is one of the few things that grow in the Ohio Valley that DON'T send my allergies into screaming fits.  (And yes, essentially urushiol causes a horrid hivey, itchy, weepy allergic reaction in about 75% of the population.)

My mother-in-law, on the other hand...is SEVERELY (as in "has literally ended up in the ER at times over it") sensitive to poison oak, and also tends to be sufficiently cross-allergic to the urushiol in cashews that it acts as a de facto food allergy--and not those wimpy "I have the cow-poops" "food sensitivities", as in "Get the Benadryl, and if it's bad enough, get her ass to the ER now" OMFG allergy.

/no, I get the itchy, occasionally hivey and blistery reaction from the farking sun if I'm out in it far too long
//actually have had to get prescription antihistamines for this in past.  And broken out the same Calagel that you use for the poison oak
///now I just use the really strong sunscreen they sell for kids and the Melanistically Challenged, and wish I could get the prescription-strength sunblock that Folks Of Johnny And Edgar Winter Levels Of Being Melanistically Challenged can get
 
2014-06-09 11:25:24 PM  

mcmnky: Bonus NSFW TMNT
(hey, they're green.)


now I'm apparently going to spend the entire movie looking for the source of that.  Is there a movie to go with it, or just that photo?
 
2014-06-09 11:26:06 PM  

serial_crusher: mcmnky: Bonus NSFW TMNT
(hey, they're green.)

now I'm apparently going to spend the entire movie night looking for the source of that.  Is there a movie to go with it, or just that photo?


fark.  ftfm
 
2014-06-10 01:39:10 AM  

serial_crusher: serial_crusher: mcmnky: Bonus NSFW TMNT
(hey, they're green.)

now I'm apparently going to spend the entire movie night looking for the source of that.  Is there a movie to go with it, or just that photo?

fark.  ftfm


Fark. I had more tmnt pics and a witty reply ready when my browser ate the post.

Anyway, here be nsfw link
http://nerdynakedgirls.tumblr.com/post/57551371033
 
2014-06-10 03:04:55 AM  

mcmnky: Not enough ivy for work


Ahh... I'd recognize that carpet anywhere. It gets hot in Atlanta, not much need for clothing.
 
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