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2014-06-09 06:27:02 PM  
Well, when BP ruins the source of A-B's profit, shiat gets real
 
2014-06-09 06:57:08 PM  
A-B just learned that Qatar won't legalize alcohol sales to Muslims
 
2014-06-09 08:26:32 PM  
Ha!  Next you'll tell me there was some fishy business during the 2018 bid won by Russia....

static.guim.co.uk
 
2014-06-09 09:52:34 PM  
The 2022 World Cup is turning into a really Qatar zero.

/shut up, weasel.
 
2014-06-09 09:54:32 PM  
"a really"?

Bah!
 
2014-06-09 10:30:01 PM  
These states are going to be up crap creek when the oil wealth won't buy them any food. Hope they are converting their sandy landscapes into arable land...
 
2014-06-09 11:03:06 PM  
I'm amazed it took this long for the sponsors to revolt, especially Anheuser-Busch/InBev since it doesn't do much good to be a sponsor of an event where your product is not welcome.

I was not surprised that Qatar got the bid since they have the means to grease the wheels but regarding the heat issue I can't figure out why no one has floated the idea of playing the games at night since most of the worldwide viewership audience would be watching during their daytime.

That being said, it probably won't matter since I'm pretty sure that FIFA will eventually cave to the pressure and revoke the World Cup.
 
2014-06-09 11:23:57 PM  
With sponsors revolting, look for another nation to host 2022....unless they start throwing the "Racist" and "Islamophobe" cards
 
2014-06-09 11:31:08 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: With sponsors revolting, look for another nation to host 2022....unless they start throwing the "Racist" and "Islamophobe" cards



FIFA boss Sepp Blatter calls Qatar World Cup criticism racist

Nice.
 
2014-06-09 11:31:24 PM  
How Sepp Blatter has remained in a leadership position over these years truly is one of life's mysteries.  While Qatar should be stripped of being a World Cup host, attention needs to paid to Russia's bid as well.  In addition, if the major federations are serious about stamping out corruption, they need to leave FIFA and start a new federation of football nations.
 
2014-06-09 11:31:38 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: unless they start throwing the "Racist" and "Islamophobe" cards


yeah, about that..
 
2014-06-10 12:01:26 AM  
At some point, some hot shot corporate weasel will realize that if he sweet talks the big money sponsors, a few big money teams, and a few big money media companies, you could easily put up your own "world championship" tournament and compete head to head w/ FIFA. It'll be hard to get players until you go to the agents and guarantee them voting rights in the bigger decisions, or other CBA type concessions. The National League fought against the American League. The NFL fought against the AFL. The NBA fought against the ABA. And after the mergers, all of those leagues were stronger than the sum of the parts (eventually). Oooh, and CART and IRL, too.
 
2014-06-10 12:03:29 AM  

orangehat: I'm amazed it took this long for the sponsors to revolt, especially Anheuser-Busch/InBev since it doesn't do much good to be a sponsor of an event where your product is not welcome.

I was not surprised that Qatar got the bid since they have the means to grease the wheels but regarding the heat issue I can't figure out why no one has floated the idea of playing the games at night since most of the worldwide viewership audience would be watching during their daytime.

That being said, it probably won't matter since I'm pretty sure that FIFA will eventually cave to the pressure and revoke the World Cup.


It won't drop below 100 degrees until at least 10:00 in Doha any night this week. Sure, 100 is better than 115, but unless you're planning to play the games at 3:00 in the morning, there's no way the temps will be under 90.
 
2014-06-10 12:05:32 AM  

rugman11: orangehat: I'm amazed it took this long for the sponsors to revolt, especially Anheuser-Busch/InBev since it doesn't do much good to be a sponsor of an event where your product is not welcome.

I was not surprised that Qatar got the bid since they have the means to grease the wheels but regarding the heat issue I can't figure out why no one has floated the idea of playing the games at night since most of the worldwide viewership audience would be watching during their daytime.

That being said, it probably won't matter since I'm pretty sure that FIFA will eventually cave to the pressure and revoke the World Cup.

It won't drop below 100 degrees until at least 10:00 in Doha any night this week. Sure, 100 is better than 115, but unless you're planning to play the games at 3:00 in the morning, there's no way the temps will be under 90.


That's what I was thinking would be the best idea but a better idea would be to not host the World Cup in a country where they don't have annual highs over 110, no real tradition in the game and a brutal track record of human rights not to mention a country where they have issues with serving booze at a game.
 
2014-06-10 12:16:39 AM  

orangehat: rugman11: orangehat: I'm amazed it took this long for the sponsors to revolt, especially Anheuser-Busch/InBev since it doesn't do much good to be a sponsor of an event where your product is not welcome.

I was not surprised that Qatar got the bid since they have the means to grease the wheels but regarding the heat issue I can't figure out why no one has floated the idea of playing the games at night since most of the worldwide viewership audience would be watching during their daytime.

That being said, it probably won't matter since I'm pretty sure that FIFA will eventually cave to the pressure and revoke the World Cup.

It won't drop below 100 degrees until at least 10:00 in Doha any night this week. Sure, 100 is better than 115, but unless you're planning to play the games at 3:00 in the morning, there's no way the temps will be under 90.

That's what I was thinking would be the best idea but a better idea would be to not host the World Cup in a country where they don't have annual highs over 110, no real tradition in the game and a brutal track record of human rights not to mention a country where they have issues with serving booze at a game.


But then how will the ExCo members be able to send their kids to private school?
 
2014-06-10 01:16:44 AM  

BravadoGT: Ha!  Next you'll tell me there was some fishy business during the 2018 bid won by Russia....

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I am sure those who have evidence concerning the 2018 corruption are 6 feet under in Siberia somewhere.
 
2014-06-10 06:45:06 AM  

Daedalus27: BravadoGT: Ha!  Next you'll tell me there was some fishy business during the 2018 bid won by Russia....

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

I am sure those who have evidence concerning the 2018 corruption are 6 feet under in Siberia somewhere.



But with Russia at least you can understand why they're hosting.  A large nation, with a soccer tradition, lots of infrastructure to host big events, and a large commercial market.

Was there better bids for 2018? Yes, in my opinion the England bid was better.  No way Spain or the Netherlands could've afforded to host it.

But Qatar, right from the outset, made no sense whatsoever.  The U.S., Australia, and Japan were all reasonable host considerations.  Qatar was a joke.
 
2014-06-10 07:41:29 AM  

devioustrevor: But Qatar, right from the outset, made no sense whatsoever. The U.S., Australia, and Japan were all reasonable host considerations. Qatar was a joke.


fifa wanted to choose somewhere they felt they had something in common
 
2014-06-10 08:11:02 AM  

orangehat: rugman11: orangehat: I'm amazed it took this long for the sponsors to revolt, especially Anheuser-Busch/InBev since it doesn't do much good to be a sponsor of an event where your product is not welcome.

I was not surprised that Qatar got the bid since they have the means to grease the wheels but regarding the heat issue I can't figure out why no one has floated the idea of playing the games at night since most of the worldwide viewership audience would be watching during their daytime.

That being said, it probably won't matter since I'm pretty sure that FIFA will eventually cave to the pressure and revoke the World Cup.

It won't drop below 100 degrees until at least 10:00 in Doha any night this week. Sure, 100 is better than 115, but unless you're planning to play the games at 3:00 in the morning, there's no way the temps will be under 90.

That's what I was thinking would be the best idea but a better idea would be to not host the World Cup in a country where they don't have annual highs over 110, no real tradition in the game and a brutal track record of human rights not to mention a country where they have issues with serving booze at a game.


I have more issue with the women cant show off their bodies. WTF is a world cup without scantily clad women cheering on their country!!!
 
2014-06-10 09:10:57 AM  

eagles95: orangehat: rugman11: orangehat: I'm amazed it took this long for the sponsors to revolt, especially Anheuser-Busch/InBev since it doesn't do much good to be a sponsor of an event where your product is not welcome.

I was not surprised that Qatar got the bid since they have the means to grease the wheels but regarding the heat issue I can't figure out why no one has floated the idea of playing the games at night since most of the worldwide viewership audience would be watching during their daytime.

That being said, it probably won't matter since I'm pretty sure that FIFA will eventually cave to the pressure and revoke the World Cup.

It won't drop below 100 degrees until at least 10:00 in Doha any night this week. Sure, 100 is better than 115, but unless you're planning to play the games at 3:00 in the morning, there's no way the temps will be under 90.

That's what I was thinking would be the best idea but a better idea would be to not host the World Cup in a country where they don't have annual highs over 110, no real tradition in the game and a brutal track record of human rights not to mention a country where they have issues with serving booze at a game.

I have more issue with the women cant show off their bodies. WTF is a world cup without scantily clad women cheering on their country!!!


Didn't they decide to hold the WC in 2022 in Nov-Dec to avoid the heat?

Quite frankly, I wouldn't be shocked to see them move it out of Qatar.  I know it's a long shot but there are still 8 years and moving it to somewhere in Europe would not be hard to do.  They already have the stadiums and infrastructure to handle it.
 
2014-06-10 09:40:23 AM  

bluenote13: eagles95: orangehat: rugman11: orangehat: I'm amazed it took this long for the sponsors to revolt, especially Anheuser-Busch/InBev since it doesn't do much good to be a sponsor of an event where your product is not welcome.

I was not surprised that Qatar got the bid since they have the means to grease the wheels but regarding the heat issue I can't figure out why no one has floated the idea of playing the games at night since most of the worldwide viewership audience would be watching during their daytime.

That being said, it probably won't matter since I'm pretty sure that FIFA will eventually cave to the pressure and revoke the World Cup.

It won't drop below 100 degrees until at least 10:00 in Doha any night this week. Sure, 100 is better than 115, but unless you're planning to play the games at 3:00 in the morning, there's no way the temps will be under 90.

That's what I was thinking would be the best idea but a better idea would be to not host the World Cup in a country where they don't have annual highs over 110, no real tradition in the game and a brutal track record of human rights not to mention a country where they have issues with serving booze at a game.

I have more issue with the women cant show off their bodies. WTF is a world cup without scantily clad women cheering on their country!!!

Didn't they decide to hold the WC in 2022 in Nov-Dec to avoid the heat?

Quite frankly, I wouldn't be shocked to see them move it out of Qatar.  I know it's a long shot but there are still 8 years and moving it to somewhere in Europe would not be hard to do.  They already have the stadiums and infrastructure to handle it.


The bid was based on it being a winter WC, or they were going to air condition the stadium .. both laughably impractical. So far none of the worlds soccer leagues impacted by this have agreed to disrupt their schedules to accommodate it. Very much an open debate point at present.

I suspect if Qatar keeps the Cup then yes, the leagues will all have to move - but that puts hundreds of millions of TV revenue at risk, plus the tradition of 100 years of soccer, or more, on the schedule they have now.

Imagine in an American context, if all of college football, high school football and the NFL all were told they had to play in the spring and summer one year because a corrupt government won the right to host the Super Bowl or the Final Four, and said corrupt government has neither the ability nor the climate suitable to do so. That's kind of what this is turning into.
 
2014-06-10 09:49:12 AM  
Well, they are both European companies, so who cares......and technically, AB isn't a company unto itself anymore..its just a brand name.
 
2014-06-10 10:31:59 AM  
What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?
 
2014-06-10 10:34:23 AM  

BravadoGT: Ha!  Next you'll tell me there was some fishy business during the 2018 bid won by Russia....

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Yeah, I notice the huge amount of negative press on Qatar's obvious corruption, but almost none on Russia's just as obvious corruption. It's clear that FIFA is about as corrupt as it gets, and that it's only getting worse as they get more & more cash from exploiting their brand through any means necessary.
 
2014-06-10 10:36:16 AM  

oh_please: What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?


You're asking why does a major international conglomco not lead? Corporations don't lead. They hold endless risk management, strategy planning, and incident response mitigation meetings, all will be followed up with gigs of powerpoint and brand strategy contingency plans. Then once a strategy was agreed upon, appropriate messaging and timing had to be considered.

Or perhaps all that took place in Belgium for the past 2 years, now St. Louis finally has the clearance to speak its mind on the subject. Or St. Louis is just now finally realizing what a sh*t-show this is turning into.

Any number of factors in play. But "they went along with" misstates what I am sure was thousands of conversations on this prior to the announcement.
 
2014-06-10 10:37:29 AM  

oh_please: What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?


Hmm...after a little more research, they extended their agreement after the Qatar decision was announced. Again, I don't get it.
 
2014-06-10 10:37:41 AM  

oh_please: What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?


Nope. They waited until it was politically beneficial to them - if enough folks hadn't raised a stink, InBev would still be backing FIFA's play. As did everybody else in that list of "concerned" corporations. Only until it became obvious to them that FIFA's corruption may hurt their brands, through the outrage and anger of millions around the world, did they go, "...hey, waitaminute, you mean we may lose millions sponsoring Qatar, especially if it's actually too friggin' hot to play there?!"

You're seeing this, also, because of the World Cup fuss going on right now for Brazil. The clear corruption & social inequity has garnered world-wide attention, as Brazil blows billions to make FIFA happy even as so friggin' many in that country starve in squalor.

Sometimes, it pays to make noise about injustice, if only to threaten the wallets of those who profit from it.
 
2014-06-10 11:15:13 AM  

BravadoGT: Ha!  Next you'll tell me there was some fishy business during the 2018 bid won by Russia....


Considering Sochi, I'm going to assume that enough heads will be slapped to have that tournament moderately runnable.
 
2014-06-10 11:34:04 AM  
The Russian bid was almost certainly bought and paid for as much as the Qatar bid.  The only reason Russia isn't getting the press is the fact that Russia is capable of hosting the event on the normal schedule and can be seen as having the infrastructure fairly close to being ready.  Qatar has to build everything from scratch and it's bid was contingent on things like weather control and ACs and hosting the event on a mound of foreign worker bodies.  Even these fanciful plans aren't enough and they now want to drop in favor of moving the event to winter.  Bids certainly can be corrupt as long as they are smoothly run.  However when you are corrupt and causing massive disruptions to the various member organizations of FIFA, it raises more attention and draws more criticism.
 
2014-06-10 11:47:57 AM  

oh_please: oh_please: What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?

Hmm...after a little more research, they extended their agreement after the Qatar decision was announced. Again, I don't get it.


I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.  If you saw the John Oliver piece this week, Brazil had a law forbidding beer sales in the stadiums during games.  FIFA and AB were able to get that changed for the WC.  Maybe they are hoping for the same thing in 2022.
 
2014-06-10 11:50:37 AM  

bluenote13: oh_please: oh_please: What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?

Hmm...after a little more research, they extended their agreement after the Qatar decision was announced. Again, I don't get it.

I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.  If you saw the John Oliver piece this week, Brazil had a law forbidding beer sales in the stadiums during games.  FIFA and AB were able to get that changed for the WC.  Maybe they are hoping for the same thing in 2022.


There is a small difference between Brazil and Qatar regarding alcohol though.
 
2014-06-10 12:03:21 PM  

bluenote13: I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.


I'm not seeing that, ain't happening. Qatar is no way, no how going to serve alcohol. So why did InBev agree to this?
 
2014-06-10 12:40:30 PM  

oh_please: bluenote13: I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.

I'm not seeing that, ain't happening. Qatar is no way, no how going to serve alcohol. So why did InBev agree to this?


I think they had to agree to allow alcohol sales.  During games, in a special area, 20 miles from the venue, between the hours of 1pm and 2pm, with a limit of one 8oz cup of bud light at $100 a cup.
 
2014-06-10 12:59:50 PM  

oh_please: bluenote13: I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.

I'm not seeing that, ain't happening. Qatar is no way, no how going to serve alcohol. So why did InBev agree to this?


They already do, to foreigners w/ valid permits in special areas during special hours. Qatari citizens aren't allowed to drink, though.
 
2014-06-10 01:13:50 PM  

Trocadero: oh_please: bluenote13: I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.

I'm not seeing that, ain't happening. Qatar is no way, no how going to serve alcohol. So why did InBev agree to this?

They already do, to foreigners w/ valid permits in special areas during special hours. Qatari citizens aren't allowed to drink, though.


I was gonna say, I've had booze in Qatar - not that tough to get.
 
2014-06-10 02:00:50 PM  

Daedalus27: bluenote13: oh_please: oh_please: What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?

Hmm...after a little more research, they extended their agreement after the Qatar decision was announced. Again, I don't get it.

I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.  If you saw the John Oliver piece this week, Brazil had a law forbidding beer sales in the stadiums during games.  FIFA and AB were able to get that changed for the WC.  Maybe they are hoping for the same thing in 2022.

There is a small difference between Brazil and Qatar regarding alcohol though.


I am not saying they will get it changed.  But, like others, I don't get why InBev would even be okay Qatar being on the short list knowing how restrictive the laws are.  Brazil's issue was only selling beer in the stadium, I think, so that was not hard to get changed.
 
2014-06-10 02:20:57 PM  

bluenote13: Daedalus27: bluenote13: oh_please: oh_please: What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?

Hmm...after a little more research, they extended their agreement after the Qatar decision was announced. Again, I don't get it.

I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.  If you saw the John Oliver piece this week, Brazil had a law forbidding beer sales in the stadiums during games.  FIFA and AB were able to get that changed for the WC.  Maybe they are hoping for the same thing in 2022.

There is a small difference between Brazil and Qatar regarding alcohol though.

I am not saying they will get it changed.  But, like others, I don't get why InBev would even be okay Qatar being on the short list knowing how restrictive the laws are.  Brazil's issue was only selling beer in the stadium, I think, so that was not hard to get changed.


InBev isn't going to bite the hand that feeds them unless they know the hand won't hit back.

The Qatar World Cup has become enough of an embarrassment (in the press mind you, it always was to soccer fans) that they're just getting on the right side of history.
 
2014-06-10 03:04:56 PM  

Lunchlady: bluenote13: Daedalus27: bluenote13: oh_please: oh_please: What I really don't understand in all of this is why InBev (Bud) went along with this bs until now...as one of the major WC sponsors, they had to know that Qatar would be the worst choice. Maybe they were blindsided?

Hmm...after a little more research, they extended their agreement after the Qatar decision was announced. Again, I don't get it.

I wonder if they are hoping to get that changed in Qatar, like they did in Brazil.  If you saw the John Oliver piece this week, Brazil had a law forbidding beer sales in the stadiums during games.  FIFA and AB were able to get that changed for the WC.  Maybe they are hoping for the same thing in 2022.

There is a small difference between Brazil and Qatar regarding alcohol though.

I am not saying they will get it changed.  But, like others, I don't get why InBev would even be okay Qatar being on the short list knowing how restrictive the laws are.  Brazil's issue was only selling beer in the stadium, I think, so that was not hard to get changed.

InBev isn't going to bite the hand that feeds them unless they know the hand won't hit back.

The Qatar World Cup has become enough of an embarrassment (in the press mind you, it always was to soccer fans) that they're just getting on the right side of history.


Oh yeah.  It made no sense from the day the announced it, especially up against the US and Japan (I think they were on the short list).
 
2014-06-10 07:56:50 PM  
What was it that Japan promised in the bid they had? Something to do with holograms or something? Stupid Qatar.

I'm missing out on brazil. Russia could be doable? But if I miss Russia and Qatar keeps the World Cup my dream of making it to a World Cup is off till 2026? Frak that. I guess I could do the copa America in the usa and a euro final to make up for it.
 
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