RoyBatty: Not to knock John Oliver, who I really enjoy, I can't understand his leaving the Daily Show for this knockoff.
insertsnarkyusername: I've never understood why people feel guilty for pirating.
shower_in_my_socks: You don't get to choose which laws you do and don't obey based on moral objectives to how various businesses operate.
insertsnarkyusername: shower_in_my_socks: insertsnarkyusername: I've never understood why people feel guilty for pirating.Same reason people feel guilty for shoplifting.Those aren't even remotely the same thing. If I shoplift say a 6 pack of beer that's one thing it's lost inventory that the store is out money on. If I could sit at home and magically make a copy of that 6 pack appear in front of me nothing is lost and nobody has been harmed.
nmrsnr: some_beer_drinker: nmrsnr: More than Game of Thrones, this is tempting me to get an HBO subscription.do you not understand how the internet works?I gave up pirating a long time ago. Too much effort, too many viruses, and I don't have to try and not feel guilty through crappy justifications.
browntimmy: RoyBatty: Not to knock John Oliver, who I really enjoy, I can't understand his leaving the Daily Show for this knockoff.There have been some key differences so far though. Like Oliver will do a full 10-15 minutes on one subject, a lot more focus on international news, and he gets to criticize big corporations since the show isn't paid for with ad dollars.
some_beer_drinker: nmrsnr: More than Game of Thrones, this is tempting me to get an HBO subscription.do you not understand how the internet works?
SlothB77: [PLUG] tag misspelled.how much is Mr Oliver paying you guys?
RoyBatty: Not to knock John Oliver, who I really enjoy, I can't understand his leaving the Daily Show for this knockoff.While the bits I've seen are good, I think the Daily Show is much better and offered him greater exposure if not the seat behind the desk. And I suspect his total viewership is way down.
Jim_Callahan: ChadM89: I pay almost $200/mo for my cable service (all channels including premiums, multiple rooms, all HD DVRs, plus internet and phone). I'm not pirating anything, to any degree.No, you're paying the distributor only with your subscription fee.The channels, the people that are providing the actual content, make most of their revenue from ads, in many cases all of their revenue, the cable company pays them little to nothing.If you use the DVR, distributor-provided or not, you're straight-up taking their content without paying for it. Even after they went to all that work to localize the ads to be more potentially actually useful to you.You pirate bastard.
insertsnarkyusername: So it's allright if you are inconvenienced in some way shape or form?
Jaden Smith First of His Name: weddingsinger: Pirating is a selfish act. It denies compensation to those who create something. True to any selfish act, if too many people also participate, the burden gets unfairly put upon those who do pay, who now have to pay a larger share, until the entire system collapses.But if those people were never going to buy or watch legally in the first place it's not a lost sale. If I go to a museum and see a Van Gogh I like, and print it out later on a 3D printer, it's not like the market for Van Gogh purchasers has gone down because I was never going to buy one in the first place. I've watched a few cam-rip movies in the past few weeks because they were things I was never going to see in the theater in the first place, and I may just go see one of them in the theater because the movie was much better than I thought it would be. In that sense piracy may add a sale that didn't exist beforehand.
nmrsnr: insertsnarkyusername: They didn't steal from you, they found your work not worth the money you were charging or they weren't sure and wanted to check it out. Plus you are talking about a group of people who probably just download all of their entertainment from that site. You didn't lose sales, you gained viewers.Just out of curiosity, do you routinely sneak into movie theaters? Do you a problem with those that do?
lostcat: I don't know how long his show is, but it's refreshing to see these 13-minute exposes, while TDS seems to have to crunch everything into shorter segments, which makes them seem rushed and incomplete.
Khellendros: insertsnarkyusername: I've never understood why people feel guilty for pirating.Because if you're being entertained by the show, you should probably be compensating the creators and talent somehow? I'm not saying you should be required to have cable and support that structure, but you should at least be throwing a bit into the pot per episode, or watching commercials. Something.Because if everyone goes your way, there are no more shows.
insertsnarkyusername: You didn't lose sales, you gained viewers.
insertsnarkyusername: It's a business that doesn't give a shiat about it's consumers. Why is it my responsibility to care about them?
nmrsnr: insertsnarkyusername: I've never understood why people feel guilty for pirating.Because the people who made the content didn't do it out of the goodness of their heart, they did it to make money, if I want to enjoy their service, I should pay something. If you don't, that either means you are disincentivizing the creation of more content that you like, or you are inflating the cost for other people to pay for your share.I never understood why people don't feel any guilt over pirating.
nmrsnr: More than Game of Thrones, this is tempting me to get an HBO subscription.
beer4breakfast: kidgenius: If Colbert leaving had been announced first, you figure Oliver would've been offered Colbert's spot. Then, if the HBO offer came, would he have taken it?I think Oliver is great, but I don't think he could(or would want to) take over Colbert's conservative pundit schtick.
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