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(BBC-US)   Pakistan's chickens continue to come home to roost as terrorists launch sustained attack on airport in Karachi   (bbc.com) divider line 17
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2014-06-09 08:43:33 AM
4 votes:
Turn a blind eye to people using your country as cover to commit crimes long enough because you don't like their victims and sooner or later you'll discover yourself their next target. By the time that happens they have honed their skills and you've got a problem on your hands. The amazing thing is that people who condoned some terrorism are surprised that those same people commit terrorism against someone not on their personal okay to terrorize list.
2014-06-09 10:46:57 AM
2 votes:

onyxruby: Turn a blind eye to people using your country as cover to commit crimes long enough because you don't like their victims and sooner or later you'll discover yourself their next target. By the time that happens they have honed their skills and you've got a problem on your hands. The amazing thing is that people who condoned some terrorism are surprised that those same people commit terrorism against someone not on their personal okay to terrorize list.


That's not really what's going on.  Pakistan isn't turning a blind eye to terrorism, rather the terrorism is coming from an internal faction.  That faction wants these attacks because they want to take over the country.  They are deeply enough rooted that it would be hard to remove them.
2014-06-09 10:41:24 AM
2 votes:

FullMetalPanda: AbiNormal: "a message to the Pakistan government that we are still alive to react over the killings of innocent people in bomb attacks on their villages".

So they kill innocent people because innocent people were killed? Is this some new form of logic? Or perhaps mental illness?

I think you have to look at an old Arabic proverb....

Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my cousins against the world
Arabic translation: أنا وأخوي على ابن عمي وأنا وابن عمي على الغريب


I couldn't find more succinct way of defining backward, simple-minded tribal mentality based on in-groups if I tried
2014-06-09 10:02:12 AM
2 votes:

RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.


Not quite: the Amish have a pretty strong pacifism streak.  I usually compare it with the worst West By God Virginia stereotypes.  Guns, beards, inbreeding and harsh religion.
2014-06-09 09:16:06 AM
2 votes:

goatan: FR DI Khan is that area ruled by a dyslexic Cpt. Kirk


That would explain more than a few things.  That corner of the world is a hot mess.  I forget who was referring to the FATA as "Binladinstan", but it was pretty clever.
2014-06-09 09:09:29 AM
2 votes:

tbaughm: Don't Troll Me Bro!: drxym: You have to wonder why Pakistan can't stamp some form of authority on these nutbars. Not a week goes by without some act of savagery being committed in that country.

You say that as if acts of savagery

don't happen here all the time.

When it happens overseas, it's an act of terrorism. When it happens on US soil, it's someone exercising his or her Second Amendment right.


The US and A is hard to compare with Pakistan.  The US controls its entire area, even West Virginia.  A sizable chunck of Pakistan is pretty effing lawless, and not really controlled by the Pakistani government.  It's the NW section of the country known as the Federally Administrated Tribal Area (FATA),

www.fatareforms.org

/grist
2014-06-09 12:00:06 PM
1 votes:

spiderpaz: FullMetalPanda: I think you have to look at an old Arabic proverb....

Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my cousins against the world
Arabic translation: أنا وأخوي على ابن عمي وأنا وابن عمي على الغريب

I couldn't find more succinct way of defining backward, simple-minded tribal mentality based on in-groups if I tried


It's almost the perfect credo if your ultimate goal were a world of never-ending strife and misery.  "Every man for himself" or "Look out for number one", by contrast, would be much less likely to lead to that kind of dystopia because at least then rational self interest might lead one into accepting some sort of imposed code.

Of course, "Kill the unbeliever" is a pretty good recipe for disaster as well, as are its sister mottoes, "Convert by the sword" and "Torture them until they admit their sin."
2014-06-09 11:51:19 AM
1 votes:

Nightjars: RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?

[www.sculpture.org image 399x244]


That map always bugged me.  IL, IN, OH, KY (perhaps even TN) should be considered mid-east.  I will always call them that at least.
2014-06-09 11:21:17 AM
1 votes:

RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?


www.sculpture.org
2014-06-09 10:43:39 AM
1 votes:

jshine: onyxruby: Turn a blind eye to people using your country as cover to commit crimes long enough because you don't like their victims and sooner or later you'll discover yourself their next target.

Sounds like the correlary of the "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist." poem.


Extremist movements tend to become more extremist over time, and eventually start killing their erstwhile allies if those allies are deemed to be of insufficient ideological purity. There are historical examples going back at least as far as the French Revolution.
2014-06-09 10:37:08 AM
1 votes:

AbiNormal: "a message to the Pakistan government that we are still alive to react over the killings of innocent people in bomb attacks on their villages".

So they kill innocent people because innocent people were killed? Is this some new form of logic? Or perhaps mental illness?


I think you have to look at an old Arabic proverb....

Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my cousins against the world
Arabic translation: أنا وأخوي على ابن عمي وأنا وابن عمي على الغريب
2014-06-09 09:53:54 AM
1 votes:

RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.


The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.
2014-06-09 09:53:06 AM
1 votes:

fireclown: tbaughm: Don't Troll Me Bro!: drxym: You have to wonder why Pakistan can't stamp some form of authority on these nutbars. Not a week goes by without some act of savagery being committed in that country.

You say that as if acts of savagery

don't happen here all the time.

When it happens overseas, it's an act of terrorism. When it happens on US soil, it's someone exercising his or her Second Amendment right.

The US and A is hard to compare with Pakistan.  The US controls its entire area, even West Virginia.  A sizable chunck of Pakistan is pretty effing lawless, and not really controlled by the Pakistani government.  It's the NW section of the country known as the Federally Administrated Tribal Area (FATA),

[www.fatareforms.org image 550x600]

/grist


There is no way at all that allowing a region, known for its fanatical devotion to archaic and, by any western-enlightened standards, barbaric and cruel religious and social requirements, to have great and nearly-separate authority over its populace will not come back and bite the host country, either through external responses from countries who are sick of being attacked by such backwards murderous farks or by internal attacks from those same backwards murderous farks against anything in the host country that doesn't fit their backwards, archaic standards.

Nope, no way at all.

None.

/couldn't possibly
2014-06-09 09:26:42 AM
1 votes:

fireclown: tbaughm: Don't Troll Me Bro!: drxym: You have to wonder why Pakistan can't stamp some form of authority on these nutbars. Not a week goes by without some act of savagery being committed in that country.

You say that as if acts of savagery

don't happen here all the time.

When it happens overseas, it's an act of terrorism. When it happens on US soil, it's someone exercising his or her Second Amendment right.

The US and A is hard to compare with Pakistan.  The US controls its entire area, even West Virginia.  A sizable chunck of Pakistan is pretty effing lawless, and not really controlled by the Pakistani government.  It's the NW section of the country known as the Federally Administrated Tribal Area (FATA),

[www.fatareforms.org image 550x600]

/grist


The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.
2014-06-09 08:33:27 AM
1 votes:

SansNeural: Photo caption:  "Members of the bomb-disposal squad diffuse explosives outside Karachi's airport "

Come on, Beeb.  You're supposed to be better than that.


Maybe he's predicting the outcome of attempts to defuse the explosive devices.
2014-06-09 08:19:04 AM
1 votes:
It seems the Taliban have been emboldened by Obama's willingness to negotiate with terrorists.
2014-06-09 08:11:10 AM
1 votes:
media.giphy.com

Great reference, subby.

/Screw Ward Churchill.
 
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