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(BBC-US)   Pakistan's chickens continue to come home to roost as terrorists launch sustained attack on airport in Karachi   (bbc.com) divider line 76
    More: Scary, Karachi, Taliban, Pakistan, Islamic Movement of Afghanistan, Pakistani Taliban, ASF, North Waziristan, explosive belt  
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2014-06-09 10:56:02 AM  

Cybernetic: jshine: onyxruby: Turn a blind eye to people using your country as cover to commit crimes long enough because you don't like their victims and sooner or later you'll discover yourself their next target.

Sounds like the correlary of the "First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist." poem.

Extremist movements tend to become more extremist over time, and eventually start killing their erstwhile allies if those allies are deemed to be of insufficient ideological purity. There are historical examples going back at least as far as the French Revolution.


This
 
2014-06-09 11:05:34 AM  

RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?


Great Basin.

("Midwest" = Big Ten circa 2000)
 
2014-06-09 11:08:21 AM  

RevCarter: What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?


Intermountain west? The midwest only goes as far west as Nebraska.

I know it's an artifact of how our country expanded but I think it's funny how anything west of Pennsylvania is described in varying degrees of "westness".
 
2014-06-09 11:13:01 AM  

Tatterdemalian: FullMetalPanda: I heard Bergdahl actually masterminded this under orders from President Obama

I heard Obama is willing to negotiate peace deals and prisoner exchanges with people that throw acid on little girls' faces for daring to go to school, but can't even negotiate a budget with people that expect women to pay for their own birth control.

/read into that whatever you want
//there is a war on women, but the side that's defending womens' rights may not be the side you think is doing so
///one side wants equal opportunity, the other supports blatant misogyny if they can't have perfect statistically equal results


I don't understand what you are talking about. Please explain it to me using small words. My period blood and empty womb is making me all irrational and silly.

We can go there if you want to, but the article is not about women's rights. Please try and focus, okay?
 
2014-06-09 11:21:17 AM  

RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?


www.sculpture.org
 
2014-06-09 11:29:02 AM  

RevCarter: Cybernetic: fireclown: [media.giphy.com image 230x166]

Great reference, subby.

/Screw Ward Churchill.

I thought it was a Jeremiah Wright reference.

Malcolm X.


What an angry black man talking about chickens coming home to roost might sound like.
 
2014-06-09 11:31:19 AM  

AbiNormal: "a message to the Pakistan government that we are still alive to react over the killings of innocent people in bomb attacks on their villages".

So they kill innocent people because innocent people were killed? Is this some new form of logic? Or perhaps mental illness?


I vote mental illness especially considering that I have been told the people who attacked the airport are NOT still alive.
 
2014-06-09 11:34:56 AM  

spiderpaz: RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?

If you lump in Utah and Idaho, you could call them the Rockies

/People in those states consider themselves part of the West
//They're wrong


That makes sense. I'm an East Coaster, so for me, everything west of PA, east of Cali, and north of Texas is the midwest.
 
2014-06-09 11:43:18 AM  

onyxruby: fireclown: Cybernetic: fireclown: [media.giphy.com image 230x166]

Great reference, subby.

/Screw Ward Churchill.

I thought it was a Jeremiah Wright reference.

It might be.  Wright quoted a lot of loonies, or he might have used the term independently.  But I was referring to this bit:

On the Justice of Roosting Chickens: Reflections on the Consequences of U.S. Imperial Arrogance and Criminality (goes to Wikipedia).

It's hard to take anyone who posts a link to that article as anything other than a nutcase.


And it's hard to take anyone who objects to linking to an article to answer a question about where an allusion or quote comes from as anything other than too reflexively hostile to reason with.  Nobody said they AGREED with Churchill.

It's possible to understand why a group of people is angry (and even to sympathize) without supporting their cause or agreeing with their ideology, much less approving their methods.
 
2014-06-09 11:51:19 AM  

Nightjars: RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?

[www.sculpture.org image 399x244]


That map always bugged me.  IL, IN, OH, KY (perhaps even TN) should be considered mid-east.  I will always call them that at least.
 
2014-06-09 11:56:31 AM  
The VIP zone is for loading and unloading only
 
2014-06-09 12:00:06 PM  

spiderpaz: FullMetalPanda: I think you have to look at an old Arabic proverb....

Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me and my cousins against the world
Arabic translation: أنا وأخوي على ابن عمي وأنا وابن عمي على الغريب

I couldn't find more succinct way of defining backward, simple-minded tribal mentality based on in-groups if I tried


It's almost the perfect credo if your ultimate goal were a world of never-ending strife and misery.  "Every man for himself" or "Look out for number one", by contrast, would be much less likely to lead to that kind of dystopia because at least then rational self interest might lead one into accepting some sort of imposed code.

Of course, "Kill the unbeliever" is a pretty good recipe for disaster as well, as are its sister mottoes, "Convert by the sword" and "Torture them until they admit their sin."
 
2014-06-09 12:03:25 PM  

This text is now purple: RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.
The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.
What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?
Great Basin.
("Midwest" = Big Ten circa 2000)


Yes, the Great Basin. The one on the the Continental Divide. You know, the place where the high mountains are.

www.worldatlas.com
 
2014-06-09 12:03:49 PM  
Whar Newsflash Whar?
 
2014-06-09 12:11:16 PM  

Norad: This entire planet (Earth) is really in the mood for a good World War.


Actually, there's still a superpower around, so... probably not going to escalate beyond a one or two country war.  If anything, we'd flatten that kind of thing  harder without Russia around, we've still got overall force on par with the rest of the world combined, and force projection capability well  beyond the rest of the world combined.

No, there's never going to be world peace, but until there are ten or fifteen globally significant factions again, regional conflicts are largely going to stay that way.

You should probably know this, given that it was the main lesson of the Cold War and you brought it up yourself.
 
2014-06-09 12:22:35 PM  

ciberido: onyxruby: fireclown: Cybernetic: fireclown: [media.giphy.com image 230x166]

Great reference, subby.

/Screw Ward Churchill.

I thought it was a Jeremiah Wright reference.

It might be.  Wright quoted a lot of loonies, or he might have used the term independently.  But I was referring to this bit:

On the Justice of Roosting Chickens: Reflections on the Consequences of U.S. Imperial Arrogance and Criminality (goes to Wikipedia).

It's hard to take anyone who posts a link to that article as anything other than a nutcase.

And it's hard to take anyone who objects to linking to an article to answer a question about where an allusion or quote comes from as anything other than too reflexively hostile to reason with.  Nobody said they AGREED with Churchill.

It's possible to understand why a group of people is angry (and even to sympathize) without supporting their cause or agreeing with their ideology, much less approving their methods.


You would be right if the article had not been a wiki.

/ I agree with Churchill, Winston Churchill.
//"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile-hoping it will eat him last."
 
2014-06-09 12:25:49 PM  
petsbunch.com
 
2014-06-09 12:30:27 PM  

Nightjars: RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?

[www.sculpture.org image 399x244]


That reminds me of how Nepal is divided into 5 Development Regions: East, Central, Western, Mid-Western, and Far-Western.  And unlike the USA, it wasn't as if they started in the eastern part and gradually moved west.
 
2014-06-09 12:32:59 PM  

scotchlandia: ciberido: onyxruby: fireclown: Cybernetic: fireclown: [media.giphy.com image 230x166]

Great reference, subby.

/Screw Ward Churchill.

I thought it was a Jeremiah Wright reference.

It might be.  Wright quoted a lot of loonies, or he might have used the term independently.  But I was referring to this bit:

On the Justice of Roosting Chickens: Reflections on the Consequences of U.S. Imperial Arrogance and Criminality (goes to Wikipedia).

It's hard to take anyone who posts a link to that article as anything other than a nutcase.

And it's hard to take anyone who objects to linking to an article to answer a question about where an allusion or quote comes from as anything other than too reflexively hostile to reason with.  Nobody said they AGREED with Churchill.

It's possible to understand why a group of people is angry (and even to sympathize) without supporting their cause or agreeing with their ideology, much less approving their methods.

You would be right if the article had not been a wiki.


What does the article being from Wikipedia have to do with anything?
 
2014-06-09 12:33:36 PM  

ciberido: Nightjars: RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?

[www.sculpture.org image 399x244]

That reminds me of how Nepal is divided into 5 Development Regions: East, Central, Western, Mid-Western, and Far-Western.  And unlike the USA, it wasn't as if they started in the eastern part and gradually moved west.


As somebody who lives in Washington State, I agree entirely with your assessment on how skewed the perspective seems to be.. :)
 
2014-06-09 12:59:31 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

/got nothin'
 
2014-06-09 01:07:11 PM  

Gr8Zen: SansNeural: Photo caption:  "Members of the bomb-disposal squad diffuse explosives outside Karachi's airport "

Come on, Beeb.  You're supposed to be better than that.

Maybe he's predicting the outcome of attempts to defuse the explosive devices.


Intended to make a similar wordplay, glad to see that you took care of it so quickly.
 
2014-06-09 01:45:02 PM  

ciberido: scotchlandia: ciberido: onyxruby: fireclown: Cybernetic: fireclown: [media.giphy.com image 230x166]

Great reference, subby.

/Screw Ward Churchill.

I thought it was a Jeremiah Wright reference.

It might be.  Wright quoted a lot of loonies, or he might have used the term independently.  But I was referring to this bit:

On the Justice of Roosting Chickens: Reflections on the Consequences of U.S. Imperial Arrogance and Criminality (goes to Wikipedia).

It's hard to take anyone who posts a link to that article as anything other than a nutcase.

And it's hard to take anyone who objects to linking to an article to answer a question about where an allusion or quote comes from as anything other than too reflexively hostile to reason with.  Nobody said they AGREED with Churchill.

It's possible to understand why a group of people is angry (and even to sympathize) without supporting their cause or agreeing with their ideology, much less approving their methods.

You would be right if the article had not been a wiki.

What does the article being from Wikipedia have to do with anything?


If it helps anything, I really, really dislike Ward Churchill.  I was only linking to Wikipedia to demonstrate that he had in fact used the term, probably before Rev Wright.  I'd forgotten that Malcom X had used the phrase (to great effect) way back in the day.
 
2014-06-09 02:01:43 PM  

formerfloozy: Tatterdemalian: FullMetalPanda: I heard Bergdahl actually masterminded this under orders from President Obama

I heard Obama is willing to negotiate peace deals and prisoner exchanges with people that throw acid on little girls' faces for daring to go to school, but can't even negotiate a budget with people that expect women to pay for their own birth control.

/read into that whatever you want
//there is a war on women, but the side that's defending womens' rights may not be the side you think is doing so
///one side wants equal opportunity, the other supports blatant misogyny if they can't have perfect statistically equal results

I don't understand what you are talking about. Please explain it to me using small words. My period blood and empty womb is making me all irrational and silly.

We can go there if you want to, but the article is not about women's rights. Please try and focus, okay?


I think he means "I can haz condom subsidy? No? I haz a sad now."
 
2014-06-09 03:20:45 PM  

ciberido: What does the article being from Wikipedia have to do with anything?


Genetic fallacy.
 
Oak
2014-06-09 03:30:57 PM  

ReverendJasen: Nightjars: RevCarter: This text is now purple: RevCarter: The best way to explain the FATA is this: Imagine if the entire mountainous region of the Midwest was a giant Indian reservation inhabited by heavily armed Amish John Birchers.

The dominant feature of the midwest is its absence of mountains.

What term should I use for Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana?

[www.sculpture.org image 399x244]

That map always bugged me.  IL, IN, OH, KY (perhaps even TN) should be considered mid-east.  I will always call them that at least.


I don't like it either.  I think MN, WI, IL, IN, MI, and OH should be described as the "Great Lakes states," as distinguished from the Midwest, which'd be ND, SD, IA, NE, KS, and MO.

/IL native
 
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