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(WFTV Orlando)   News: Father leaves his seven-year-old son home alone in a house with no electricity which catches on fire. WTFark: While the kid was able to get out of the burning home his father was "visiting friends at IHOP"   ( wftv.com) divider line
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2014-06-09 08:52:20 AM  
I would think that a 7 year old kid could be left alone for short stretches of time.  I know that I was capable of taking care of basic needs by 7, but I did have an older brother around so I acted older than i was andhe had my back if I really messed things up.
 
2014-06-09 09:20:59 AM  
Let's be fair, the Colorado Omlette is awesome.
 
2014-06-09 10:10:15 AM  
The Florida Department of Children and Families has been called to investigate. Officials said the 7-year-old is staying with his father's girlfriend.

Florida tag go with him?
 
2014-06-09 11:28:35 AM  
Oh.  Great idea.  Leave him with a woman who has decided that the father might be a good choice.
 
2014-06-09 01:39:33 PM  
IHOPe the kid's okay.
 
2014-06-09 01:40:06 PM  
Electricity catches on fire? That explains so much.
 
2014-06-09 01:42:01 PM  

News: Father leaves his seven-year-old son home alone in a house with no electricity which catches on fire


Sounds pretty safe: you want the kind of electricity that does not catch fire.
 
2014-06-09 01:42:34 PM  
How did the fire start? Without electricity, I'll bet father of the year set it.
 
2014-06-09 01:47:46 PM  

Egoy3k: I would think that a 7 year old kid could be left alone for short stretches of time.  I know that I was capable of taking care of basic needs by 7, but I did have an older brother around so I acted older than i was andhe had my back if I really messed things up.


I tend to agree with you since I was able to take care of myself at that age, but leaving a kid that age alone at 1am is not such a good idea.
 
2014-06-09 01:50:34 PM  
I'd need to know more, but at 1 AM the kid should have been asleep and should be okay while a parent pops out for a quick breakfast.

It's only child neglect because something went wrong.

Rules of candle safety:

1:  Don't light candles
2.  If you do, don't leave them near anything that can catch on fire -
     a: a sink with nothing flammable near it is a good place
     b: If you have pets other than fish, that's not good enough
3.  Never leave them alone
 
2014-06-09 01:51:53 PM  
Visiting the drug dealer at IHOP.
 
2014-06-09 01:52:09 PM  
They sound poor.   Better punish them!
 
2014-06-09 01:55:05 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Oh.  Great idea.  Leave him with a woman who has decided that the father might be a good choice.


Yeah, this caught my eye too.
 
2014-06-09 01:55:14 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Oh.  Great idea.  Leave him with a woman who has decided that the father might be a good choice.


This.  Feel bad for this kid if this is the best available option for him.  His outlook does not seem bright, just like his house pre-fire.
 
2014-06-09 01:55:47 PM  

JackieRabbit: Egoy3k: I would think that a 7 year old kid could be left alone for short stretches of time.  I know that I was capable of taking care of basic needs by 7, but I did have an older brother around so I acted older than i was andhe had my back if I really messed things up.

I tend to agree with you since I was able to take care of myself at that age, but leaving a kid that age alone at 1am is not such a good idea.


the average 7 year old should not be left alone for longer than it takes the parent to walk to the mailbox

i wasn't left home alone till i was 9, and i was VERY responsible. hell, i could cook a full meal by that age.

we didn't start leaving my stepdaughter home alone till she was about 9 or 10, and that was typically as a latch-key after school type thing. now she's 13 and we'll leave her with our 4 year old son long enough for us to go to the nearest store (approx 4 miles away), or by herself for all day.

never would i leave a child alone at night, at least till they're 15 or so...and not at 1 am even then
 
2014-06-09 01:55:51 PM  

Turbo Cojones: They sound poor.   Better punish them!


Let's not be too hasty, are they black or white?
 
2014-06-09 01:57:14 PM  
That is a travesty! Leaving your kid at home so you can go to IHOP. Completely unacceptable. You couldn't find a Waffle House?
 
2014-06-09 01:59:49 PM  
oh, and the electricity is ALWAYS ON at my place! there are 3 bills i absolutely pay no matter what i have to do to pay them...house payment, electricity, & water
 
2014-06-09 02:03:13 PM  
So was the neglect because the kid lived in a house with no electricity or for the candle dad left burning? While I don't think leaving a 7 year old home alone in the middle of the night is the greatest of parenting moves of all time, I certainly don't think that alone automatically rises to the level of child neglect.
 
2014-06-09 02:08:43 PM  

bungle_jr: JackieRabbit: Egoy3k: I would think that a 7 year old kid could be left alone for short stretches of time.  I know that I was capable of taking care of basic needs by 7, but I did have an older brother around so I acted older than i was andhe had my back if I really messed things up.

I tend to agree with you since I was able to take care of myself at that age, but leaving a kid that age alone at 1am is not such a good idea.

the average 7 year old should not be left alone for longer than it takes the parent to walk to the mailbox

i wasn't left home alone till i was 9, and i was VERY responsible. hell, i could cook a full meal by that age.

we didn't start leaving my stepdaughter home alone till she was about 9 or 10, and that was typically as a latch-key after school type thing. now she's 13 and we'll leave her with our 4 year old son long enough for us to go to the nearest store (approx 4 miles away), or by herself for all day.

never would i leave a child alone at night, at least till they're 15 or so...and not at 1 am even then


Times were different when I was that age. Most mothers didn't work then and we were accountable to every adult around us. So a mother would think nothing of calling a neighbor to say she needed to go grocery shopping and asking her to keep an eye out for the kids. There were no day care centers back then and this was the only workable solution -- that of haul your kids with you everywhere.

Not leave a child alone at night until 15? Really? I was pretty much on my own (with strict rules) by then and had been camping in the woods without adult supervision since 10 years of age. Life in the country is different I guess. Kids have to grow up faster and learn to take care of themselves.
 
2014-06-09 02:09:14 PM  

Doubleodoug: So was the neglect because the kid lived in a house with no electricity or for the candle dad left burning? While I don't think leaving a 7 year old home alone in the middle of the night is the greatest of parenting moves of all time, I certainly don't think that alone automatically rises to the level of child neglect.


the candles combined with the lack of electricity (that one alone raises a red flag most of the time)
 
2014-06-09 02:26:55 PM  

Doubleodoug: So was the neglect because the kid lived in a house with no electricity or for the candle dad left burning? While I don't think leaving a 7 year old home alone in the middle of the night is the greatest of parenting moves of all time, I certainly don't think that alone automatically rises to the level of child neglect.


This is closer to what I wanted to say. I personally wouldn't do it but my circumstances are a little bit better than a single father who clearly hasn't got the money for electricity let alone a partner or child care options.

JackieRabbit: I tend to agree with you since I was able to take care of myself at that age, but leaving a kid that age alone at 1am is not such a good idea.


Yeah the time of day really doesn't help his case here.
 
2014-06-09 02:31:57 PM  
Look what ya did, ya little jerk.
 
2014-06-09 02:42:19 PM  

bungle_jr: oh, and the electricity is ALWAYS ON at my place! there are 3 bills i absolutely pay no matter what i have to do to pay them...house payment, electricity, & water


Even if that means "Visiting Friends" at the IHOP on Peters Ct?
 
2014-06-09 02:43:17 PM  
you can tell subs is of the age where a parent carted his ass from organized/supervised activity to organized/supervised activity.
 
2014-06-09 02:58:50 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: News: Father leaves his seven-year-old son home alone in a house with no electricity which catches on fire


Sounds pretty safe: you want the kind of electricity that does not catch fire.


Some older houses are built so that fire is attracted to the electricity and the rest of the house is spared.
 
2014-06-09 02:58:53 PM  
Good on Dad.  Now his son knows self-reliance, something we have a severe deficiency of in this country.
 
2014-06-09 03:13:36 PM  

Doubleodoug: So was the neglect because the kid lived in a house with no electricity or for the candle dad left burning? While I don't think leaving a 7 year old home alone in the middle of the night is the greatest of parenting moves of all time, I certainly don't think that alone automatically rises to the level of child neglect.


By today's standards a kid living in a house with no electricity is neglect.  Not for the entitled spoiled brat vs the 'when I was a kid we didn't have indoor plumbing' reasons.  But for all the reasons you shouldn't eat at a restaurant that doesn't have power reasons.  No electricity = No hot water, no way to clean, no way to refrigerate.  Plus the requirement for more dangerous methods of lighting and heat (where applicable).

I'm surprised the power company cut power to a house with a child in it.  I'd bet the father didn't communicate with them about his situation, and/or they moved in after power was out (DNRTFA).

When we had a storm that wiped out power in our area after 2 hours, I packed my kid up and went to my parents house.  It took a day and a half to get power back on, and there were boil water orders, and we didn't have a gas stove.  While I admit it was more out of laziness I skipped town, it was probably a good idea.
 
2014-06-09 03:30:41 PM  
1. I grew up doing many things at an age younger than I should have been due to necessity or lack of parental oversight. Most of those things I will not let my daughter do on her own at a similar age because I am aware of how dumb it was to leave me alone. I will let her do them, I will just be there with a fire extinguisher and band aids.

2. My dad, who was single at the time, worked nights during my sophomore and junior HS years. Luckily, I only went to the hospital once, and they only gave me fluids and kept me for observation. Had lots of fun though.
 
2014-06-09 03:31:40 PM  

Turbo Cojones: They sound poor.   Better punish them!


That seems to be the major rub here.  Affluent families evidently can be trusted to leave a kid to amuse himself for an hour or so.
 
2014-06-09 03:49:51 PM  

Piizzadude: Doubleodoug: So was the neglect because the kid lived in a house with no electricity or for the candle dad left burning? While I don't think leaving a 7 year old home alone in the middle of the night is the greatest of parenting moves of all time, I certainly don't think that alone automatically rises to the level of child neglect.

the candles combined with the lack of electricity (that one alone raises a red flag most of the time)


Look, the father was just trying to live his life. Like a candle in the wind.
That torched his house.
 
2014-06-09 03:58:57 PM  
http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm

Florida doesn't have any laws about leaving kids home alone, but recommends a minimum age of 18.
 
2014-06-09 06:20:30 PM  

sendtodave: http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm

Florida doesn't have any laws about leaving kids home alone, but recommends a minimum age of 18.


FL DCF recommends following the SafeKids campaign guidelines which is 12 for a short period of time, and kids older than 15 as babysitters.
 
2014-06-09 06:28:29 PM  
Rooty Tooty Fresh and Fruity ?
 
2014-06-09 06:52:17 PM  

lokis_mentor: sendtodave: http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm

Florida doesn't have any laws about leaving kids home alone, but recommends a minimum age of 18.

FL DCF recommends following the SafeKids campaign guidelines which is 12 for a short period of time, and kids older than 15 as babysitters.


Recommendations are not laws.  MI has a recommended age for leaving a kid home alone, but I know of an incident where a 4 yro was left watching a 2 yro alone, and the parent was not charged because the parent stated they felt the 4 yro had it covered.  I don't agree with all his decisions, but I do hope he gets a good lawyer.  And to think, if he blew the candle out, we wouldn't even know of him and his joey.
 
2014-06-09 07:11:27 PM  

lack of warmth: lokis_mentor: sendtodave: http://www.latchkey-kids.com/latchkey-kids-age-limits.htm

Florida doesn't have any laws about leaving kids home alone, but recommends a minimum age of 18.

FL DCF recommends following the SafeKids campaign guidelines which is 12 for a short period of time, and kids older than 15 as babysitters.

Recommendations are not laws.  MI has a recommended age for leaving a kid home alone, but I know of an incident where a 4 yro was left watching a 2 yro alone, and the parent was not charged because the parent stated they felt the 4 yro had it covered.  I don't agree with all his decisions, but I do hope he gets a good lawyer.  And to think, if he blew the candle out, we wouldn't even know of him and his joey.


Hence why I made the word the hotlink in my post.  Hope it works for your neighbor and he learns a lesson.  I was also posting in reference to the recommended age of 18 in the post I was quoting.
 
2014-06-09 08:34:39 PM  

Egoy3k: I would think that a 7 year old kid could be left alone for short stretches of time.  I know that I was capable of taking care of basic needs by 7, but I did have an older brother around so I acted older than i was andhe had my back if I really messed things up.


Yeah.  I didn't get along with babysitters very well, I was left alone by age 7.  They always made sure the neighbors were home and I knew I could go to them if I needed help.

At that same age I was trusted to safely cross *ANY* street and to take the bus to see grandma--alone, not met on either end and involving one major street crossing on each end of the trip.  (Getting the bus to actually stop could be problematic, though!)

On the other hand, no electricity sounds like a big red flag to me.
 
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