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2014-06-08 08:15:42 PM
STOP RIGHT NOW!  Senseless speculation and blaming the truck driver BEFORE the NTSC examines everything is reckless.  You don't know, OP because YOU weren't there.  When you've driven a few tens of thousands of miles, and you've filled out your log book after you've had your Class A, Hazmat, Trailers, Airbrakes, then and only then can you complain.
 
2014-06-08 08:38:34 PM

Trailltrader: STOP RIGHT NOW!  Senseless speculation and blaming the truck driver BEFORE the NTSC examines everything is reckless.  You don't know, OP because YOU weren't there.  When you've driven a few tens of thousands of miles, and you've filled out your log book after you've had your Class A, Hazmat, Trailers, Airbrakes, then and only then can you complain.


So if the log books are in order, the wreck didn't happen?
 
2014-06-08 08:43:48 PM
It would be a refreshing note of subtlety if he just volunteered to be the human porta-john at the Walton Family Reunion.
 
2014-06-08 08:47:42 PM

Trailltrader: STOP RIGHT NOW!  Senseless speculation and blaming the truck driver BEFORE the NTSC examines everything is reckless.  You don't know, OP because YOU weren't there.  When you've driven a few tens of thousands of miles, and you've filled out your log book after you've had your Class A, Hazmat, Trailers, Airbrakes, then and only then can you complain.


So it's okay if he fell asleep and killed somebody, because he drives a lot?

I don't know if this was an accident, or if he was reckless, but saying I can't judge someone who (if it turns out he did) falls asleep at the wheel because I'm not a trucker is ridiculous.

I agree he is innocent until proven guilty, and since there's no evidence yet that he fell asleep, we shouldn't assume he did, but the "walk a mile in his shoes" argument doesn't fly if he caused the death of someone by falling asleep at the wheel.
 
2014-06-08 08:50:44 PM
Some of these trucks have beds in them.  Who can you blame there?
 
2014-06-08 08:51:37 PM
I think you'll find sleeping in front of the wheel is, in fact, always dangerous.l
 
2014-06-08 09:00:20 PM
Tucker Carlson has elevated himself to AAA+ level douchiness. WTF? He says ten years for falling asleep is too much? Someone died! And people don't generally fall asleep outside their control unless they are severely fatigued to the point of being impaired and driving impaired is most certainly reckless, especially when you're driving a big rig.

Seriously, WTF? Why did he even feel the need to comment?
 
2014-06-08 09:31:57 PM
My brother fell asleep driving once and ran into a row of parked cars. I know I have been close and powered through by sheer willpower. I once drove alone from Massachusetts to West Texas without stopping. I have no idea what point I am trying to make.
 
2014-06-08 09:32:01 PM

Trailltrader: STOP RIGHT NOW!  Senseless speculation and blaming the truck driver BEFORE the NTSC examines everything is reckless.  You don't know, OP because YOU weren't there.  When you've driven a few tens of thousands of miles, and you've filled out your log book after you've had your Class A, Hazmat, Trailers, Airbrakes, then and only then can you complain.


Good one, you'll get bites.
 
2014-06-08 09:33:15 PM

Ambivalence: Tucker Carlson has elevated himself to AAA+ level douchiness. WTF? He says ten years for falling asleep is too much? Someone died! And people don't generally fall asleep outside their control unless they are severely fatigued to the point of being impaired and driving impaired is most certainly reckless, especially when you're driving a big rig.

Seriously, WTF? Why did he even feel the need to comment?


And the damnedest thing is, there's a reason WHY these guys drive themselves to the point of almost fatigue - razor thin delivery schedules from corporate buyers with low compensation for the work required.

That point won't get addressed.
 
2014-06-08 09:34:11 PM
Good thing he got his sleep in. Will probably want to keep his eyes open in prison.
 
2014-06-08 09:36:17 PM
What Tucker really meant was it wasn't reckless because no white people were hurt.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-06-08 09:38:10 PM
When Jon Stewart showed what an absolute ass he was on Crossfire he should have never gotten another job.  Tucker Carlson is the biggest idiot on TV today, and that's a VERY high bar.
 
2014-06-08 09:39:15 PM
Its amazing, fox news is attached to something and instantly the hate train starts even though he said nothing like the subby states in the headline. In fact he said he's NOT defending anyone.... Only comparing it to DUI or using drugs getting punished harshly, sure its reckless but sometimes a mistake is just that, a mistake.

I hate most news shows for spinning shiat to their benefit but this leap is just moronic.
 
2014-06-08 09:41:16 PM

eejack: What Tucker really meant was it wasn't reckless because no white people were hurt Walmart was involved.



It is strange that he comments on this accident. Does he comment on other accidents that involve semi's? Or does he only comment on accidents involving Walmart semi's because if it is found out the guy did fall asleep, then Walmart will come under scrutiny for the way it handles its drivers.
 
2014-06-08 09:42:28 PM

Trailltrader: STOP RIGHT NOW!  Senseless speculation and blaming the truck driver BEFORE the NTSC examines everything is reckless.  You don't know, OP because YOU weren't there.  When you've driven a few tens of thousands of miles, and you've filled out your log book after you've had your Class A, Hazmat, Trailers, Airbrakes, then and only then can you complain.


Drunk driving is technically an accident, so let's not charge someone who's piss-drunk and strikes a pedestrian! And a gun going off accidentally is also an accident, even if the person handling the weapon accidentally kills someone--so there goes any charge of negligent homicide, too!

Tucker Carlson was an asshat when I woke up this morning, he's an asshat now, and he will forever be a (gap-toothed) asshat.

/Thank god he no longer wears bow ties
//Yes, I wear bow ties
///But I'm not an asshat
 
2014-06-08 09:43:04 PM

steamingpile: Its amazing, fox news is attached to something and instantly the hate train starts even though he said nothing like the subby states in the headline. In fact he said he's NOT defending anyone.... Only comparing it to DUI or using drugs getting punished harshly, sure its reckless but sometimes a mistake is just that, a mistake.

I hate most news shows for spinning shiat to their benefit but this leap is just moronic.


Fox news isn't news. It's just the TV equivalent of when angry old men would gather together to shiat on everything and cry on each other's shoulder. Eventually there will be a Fox News For Women which will invent gossip for nutty grandmas.
 
2014-06-08 09:43:13 PM
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2014-06-08 09:43:55 PM

Ambivalence: Tucker Carlson has elevated himself to AAA+ level douchiness. WTF? He says ten years for falling asleep is too much? Someone died! And people don't generally fall asleep outside their control unless they are severely fatigued to the point of being impaired and driving impaired is most certainly reckless, especially when you're driving a big rig.

Seriously, WTF? Why did he even feel the need to comment?


Because if a driver gets 10 years for falling asleep at the wheel, people are going to start asking questions of Wal-Mart and other companies about what kind of policies they have in place with regards to making sure drivers are getting enough sleep. Drivers are going to start telling stories about how they got pressured to drive X number of miles in Y number of hours, stories of other drivers falling asleep and running into cars not containing famous black comedians will start surfacing, and all of the sudden Wal-Mart's cost to move freight from point A to B are costing them about a dollar more a mile.
 
2014-06-08 09:44:12 PM

steamingpile: Its amazing, fox news is attached to something and instantly the hate train starts even though he said nothing like the subby states in the headline. In fact he said he's NOT defending anyone.... Only comparing it to DUI or using drugs getting punished harshly, sure its reckless but sometimes a mistake is just that, a mistake.

I hate most news shows for spinning shiat to their benefit but this leap is just moronic.


He's not defending him but he's pretty slow in that the guy he was interviewing had to spell it out to him in plain English on why the charges were so severe.

"I'm not trying to take anything away from the tragedy of this," Carlson replied. "But 10 years in jail for falling asleep? It strikes me as very different from taking drugs, drinking. Has that ever happened? Has anybody ever actually gone to jail for falling asleep?"
"For falling asleep and causing a death?" Schwartz asked. "Absolutely."

"But, I mean sometimes people - and I'm not defending anyone here," Carlson continued. "I'm really struck by the idea that someone who falls asleep - which is something that everybody does every day, not necessarily considered an act of recklessness - does it unintentionally, nods off is a criminal."

"Tucker, if you're driving a 16-wheel truck, a truck for Walmart, and you're on the roads for the state of New Jersey, and you're drowsy and you fall asleep, it's certainly an act of recklessness," the attorney insisted. "Not an intentional murder, but it's an act of recklessness. And that's where this reckless homicide comes in."

Long story short, Tucker is a real dumbass.
 
2014-06-08 09:44:49 PM
Maybe it wasn't accidental. Perhaps this truck driver just wanted to rid the world of another "comedian" who isn't actually funny. If so, this was probably just a practice run for Dane Cook, that "ventriloquist" guy with the racist puppet and Jim Davis.
 
2014-06-08 09:44:51 PM
No one puts down Bill Nye for wearing a bow tie. But when you're a douchecanoe, all of a sudden bow ties are a bad thing. It's like you can't catch a break if you're a twatwaffle.
 
2014-06-08 09:45:42 PM

Mrtraveler01: steamingpile: Its amazing, fox news is attached to something and instantly the hate train starts even though he said nothing like the subby states in the headline. In fact he said he's NOT defending anyone.... Only comparing it to DUI or using drugs getting punished harshly, sure its reckless but sometimes a mistake is just that, a mistake.

I hate most news shows for spinning shiat to their benefit but this leap is just moronic.

He's not defending him but he's pretty slow in that the guy he was interviewing had to spell it out to him in plain English on why the charges were so severe.

"I'm not trying to take anything away from the tragedy of this," Carlson replied. "But 10 years in jail for falling asleep? It strikes me as very different from taking drugs, drinking. Has that ever happened? Has anybody ever actually gone to jail for falling asleep?"
"For falling asleep and causing a death?" Schwartz asked. "Absolutely."

"But, I mean sometimes people - and I'm not defending anyone here," Carlson continued. "I'm really struck by the idea that someone who falls asleep - which is something that everybody does every day, not necessarily considered an act of recklessness - does it unintentionally, nods off is a criminal."
"Tucker, if you're driving a 16-wheel truck, a truck for Walmart, and you're on the roads for the state of New Jersey, and you're drowsy and you fall asleep, it's certainly an act of recklessness," the attorney insisted. "Not an intentional murder, but it's an act of recklessness. And that's where this reckless homicide comes in."

Long story short, Tucker is a real dumbass.



Maybe he was sleepy.
 
2014-06-08 09:46:00 PM

spunkymunky: Maybe it wasn't accidental. Perhaps this truck driver just wanted to rid the world of another "comedian" who isn't actually funny. If so, this was probably just a practice run for Dane Cook, that "ventriloquist" guy with the racist puppet and Jim Davis.


Wow, someone really hates Monday's.
 
2014-06-08 09:46:51 PM
"I'm really struck by the idea that someone who falls asleep - which is something that everybody does every day, not necessarily considered an act of recklessness "

People fall asleep every day. Can't explain that.

Tucker needs to switch back to the bowtie, I think that Windsor knot is cutting off the circulation to his brain.
 
2014-06-08 09:47:50 PM

d23: When Jon Stewart showed what an absolute ass he was on Crossfire he should have never gotten another job.  Tucker Carlson is the biggest idiot on TV today, and that's a VERY high bar.


Have you SEEN Fox New's line-up? And I'm not even talking the primetime clowns--the morning show, the pre-morning show show, hell even the afternoon morons (with the exception of Shepard Smith, since he at least seems competent). It's as though the requirements to be on that channel go something like this:

Men: Must be willing to shill for whatever talking point is polling popularly among conservatives. Hair not necessary. Good hair advised against.

Women: Must have good legs.

No mention of intelligence or the ability to reason, though. That's LIEBRUL GUBMINT INTERFEERANCE!
 
2014-06-08 09:48:39 PM

nytmare: No one puts down Bill Nye for wearing a bow tie. But when you're a douchecanoe, all of a sudden bow ties are a bad thing. It's like you can't catch a break if you're a twatwaffle.


Now we know George Will's Fark handle.
 
2014-06-08 09:48:54 PM

nytmare: No one puts down Bill Nye for wearing a bow tie. But when you're a douchecanoe, all of a sudden bow ties are a bad thing. It's like you can't catch a break if you're a twatwaffle.


Actually it looks stupid on him too.
 
2014-06-08 09:48:59 PM
Tucker Carlson's certainly entitled to his opinion.

But - should there be a cost for falling asleep behind the wheel of a tractor trailer, then plowing into a line of stopped cars? I would certainly hope so. And I hope the cost is significant enough to act as a deterrent. And I hope WalMart incurs a significant financial penalty for this as well, so they institute some sort of policy to mitigate drowsy driving.
 
2014-06-08 09:48:59 PM

steamingpile: Its amazing, fox news is attached to something and instantly the hate train starts even though he said nothing like the subby states in the headline. In fact he said he's NOT defending anyone.... Only comparing it to DUI or using drugs getting punished harshly, sure its reckless but sometimes a mistake is just that, a mistake.

I hate most news shows for spinning shiat to their benefit but this leap is just moronic.


THIS!

what a joke of a headline and fark eats it up. OMG Faux News!!!! Instagreen!
 
2014-06-08 09:49:01 PM
Well, this a good way to get attention.
 
2014-06-08 09:49:01 PM
Look carlson is certainly a douche guy, but him asking whether falling asleep is necessarily reckless is hardly contemptible.
 
2014-06-08 09:50:27 PM
Tucker Carlson is lucky that you can't go to prison just for being an idiot and making moronic statements on TV.  Otherwise he'd be facing a life sentence.
 
2014-06-08 09:50:54 PM

d23: When Jon Stewart showed what an absolute ass he was on Crossfire he should have never gotten another job.  Tucker Carlson is the biggest idiot on TV today, and that's a VERY high bar.


You're talking about a network that has this guy on to talk about foreign policy:

marinephotos.togetherweserved.com
 
2014-06-08 09:50:54 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Ambivalence: Tucker Carlson has elevated himself to AAA+ level douchiness. WTF? He says ten years for falling asleep is too much? Someone died! And people don't generally fall asleep outside their control unless they are severely fatigued to the point of being impaired and driving impaired is most certainly reckless, especially when you're driving a big rig.

Seriously, WTF? Why did he even feel the need to comment?

And the damnedest thing is, there's a reason WHY these guys drive themselves to the point of almost fatigue - razor thin delivery schedules from corporate buyers with low compensation for the work required.

That point won't get addressed.


THAT is a conversation worth having. THAT would have been a comment worth making. Saying it's not really reckless or a crime is not.
 
2014-06-08 09:51:56 PM
Considering Tracy Morgan wasn't all that funny, the driver shouldn't be charged at all.
 
2014-06-08 09:52:49 PM

Mrtraveler01: steamingpile: Its amazing, fox news is attached to something and instantly the hate train starts even though he said nothing like the subby states in the headline. In fact he said he's NOT defending anyone.... Only comparing it to DUI or using drugs getting punished harshly, sure its reckless but sometimes a mistake is just that, a mistake.

I hate most news shows for spinning shiat to their benefit but this leap is just moronic.

He's not defending him but he's pretty slow in that the guy he was interviewing had to spell it out to him in plain English on why the charges were so severe.

"I'm not trying to take anything away from the tragedy of this," Carlson replied. "But 10 years in jail for falling asleep? It strikes me as very different from taking drugs, drinking. Has that ever happened? Has anybody ever actually gone to jail for falling asleep?"
"For falling asleep and causing a death?" Schwartz asked. "Absolutely."

"But, I mean sometimes people - and I'm not defending anyone here," Carlson continued. "I'm really struck by the idea that someone who falls asleep - which is something that everybody does every day, not necessarily considered an act of recklessness - does it unintentionally, nods off is a criminal."
"Tucker, if you're driving a 16-wheel truck, a truck for Walmart, and you're on the roads for the state of New Jersey, and you're drowsy and you fall asleep, it's certainly an act of recklessness," the attorney insisted. "Not an intentional murder, but it's an act of recklessness. And that's where this reckless homicide comes in."

Long story short, Tucker is a real dumbass.


Tucker Carlson was defending the truck driver. Most claims otherwise miss the mark.

It is amazing to me how every time someone says something like "I'm not defending anyone," they end up offering a defense of someone. It's just like someone saying "I'm not a racist, but..." and then following it up with something racist.
 
2014-06-08 09:54:32 PM
Raising speed limits and shortening the mandatory rest periods for truckers means more people are gonna die this year in worse accidents. We could stop it, but corporations might have to raise prices an extra half a cent, so fark that, get the power washers and shovels out.
 
2014-06-08 09:54:34 PM

Trailltrader: STOP RIGHT NOW!  Senseless speculation and blaming the truck driver BEFORE the NTSC examines everything is reckless.  You don't know, OP because YOU weren't there.  When you've driven a few tens of thousands of miles, and you've filled out your log book after you've had your Class A, Hazmat, Trailers, Airbrakes, then and only then can you complain.


So these truckers live by a code that we mere mortals can't understand?
 
2014-06-08 09:54:39 PM

stirfrybry: steamingpile: Its amazing, fox news is attached to something and instantly the hate train starts even though he said nothing like the subby states in the headline. In fact he said he's NOT defending anyone.... Only comparing it to DUI or using drugs getting punished harshly, sure its reckless but sometimes a mistake is just that, a mistake.

I hate most news shows for spinning shiat to their benefit but this leap is just moronic.

THIS!

what a joke of a headline and fark eats it up. OMG Faux News!!!! Instagreen!


While I agree that the headline is misleading (oblig. welcome to dark.com), you can't possibly sent that what Tucker said was completely retarded.
 
2014-06-08 09:55:52 PM
If you have a wreck why is it called reckless?
 
2014-06-08 09:56:30 PM
Fark.com*....
 
2014-06-08 09:56:33 PM
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This guy looks okay in a bow tie. Don't worry, he doesn't eat cats.
 
2014-06-08 09:56:38 PM
I...agree...with...Tucker. *vomits*

Accidents happen. There's even a word for it. It's called an accident. If he wasn't drinking, or doing drugs. I mean. There's a million people on the highway in tiny metal boxes going an average of 65 mph, you're going to have accidents. And hell. Everyone on the highway hates my guts because I have the audacity to go the speed limit.

If this guys had a safe record I agree that he should not have to serve time. Jesus. The people who purposefully bankrupted our nation didn't get shiat.

Even a broken (analog) clock is right twice a day. 34,000 other people die a year from auto accidents. I haven't heard squat about them and most of them don't go to jail unless they've actually taken a substance.
 
2014-06-08 09:56:57 PM

Mrtraveler01: d23: When Jon Stewart showed what an absolute ass he was on Crossfire he should have never gotten another job.  Tucker Carlson is the biggest idiot on TV today, and that's a VERY high bar.

You're talking about a network that has this guy on to talk about foreign policy:

[marinephotos.togetherweserved.com image 517x450]


They also think the Wasilla Snowbilly Grifter is capable of talking about politics in general. And a guy who was kicked out of the American Psychiatric Association is totally their go-to guy for mental health information. Oh, and they have Geraldo Rivera.
 
2014-06-08 09:57:00 PM
Bow tie enthusiast T-


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2014-06-08 09:57:17 PM

Ambivalence: Seriously, WTF? Why did he even feel the need to comment?


Because he's an asshole.
 
2014-06-08 09:57:26 PM

boinkingbill: Considering Tracy Morgan wasn't all that funny, the driver shouldn't be charged at all.


I don't find you funny. Can I kill you?
 
2014-06-08 09:57:48 PM

Sail The Wide Accountancy: I...agree...with...Tucker. *vomits*

Accidents happen. There's even a word for it. It's called an accident. If he wasn't drinking, or doing drugs. I mean. There's a million people on the highway in tiny metal boxes going an average of 65 mph, you're going to have accidents. And hell. Everyone on the highway hates my guts because I have the audacity to go the speed limit.

If this guys had a safe record I agree that he should not have to serve time. Jesus. The people who purposefully bankrupted our nation didn't get shiat.

Even a broken (analog) clock is right twice a day. 34,000 other people die a year from auto accidents. I haven't heard squat about them and most of them don't go to jail unless they've actually taken a substance.


You know a guy died right?
 
2014-06-08 09:58:03 PM
I honestly can't tell if he's a farking idiot or just trolling us.
 
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