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2014-06-08 04:13:57 PM  
Welcome to the "Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey" discussion thread and drinking game!

Episode 13: Unafraid Of The Dark
We know less now about the universe than educated Europeans did before the discovery of the Americas. All those billions of galaxies, all those stars, planets and moons--they amount to a meager 4 per cent of what really awaits out there. This awareness is the humility that distinguishes science from other human activities. It savors the fact that even bigger mysteries, mysteries like dark energy, await us.


Tonight's rules:

Neil says:

Billion(s) - big sip
Billions and billions - finish your drink
Dark/Darkness - sip
galaxy(ies) - sip
 
2014-06-08 05:47:42 PM  
AAARGH!!! They need to make MOAR episodes!1!
 
2014-06-08 07:06:25 PM  
I've got too much grading to do to stick around, but it's been fun the threads I've been in for this. There's an image on the COSMOS twitter calling this the "season finale" so... here's to hoping!
 
2014-06-08 08:04:13 PM  
I wish they would continue on and on. A really good science show. NDT is doing well. This will certainly be on my bluray list of "must-buy."
 
2014-06-08 08:09:56 PM  
 
2014-06-08 08:16:10 PM  
Have they got to the finale where God did it all yet?
 
2014-06-08 08:22:48 PM  
This was one of the best series on TV in a while.  Here's hoping for some sort of sequel, like using Neuroscience as a launching pad to discuss biochemistry, genetics, informatics, and philosophy.
 
2014-06-08 08:27:10 PM  

Psychohazard: This was one of the best series on TV in a while.  Here's hoping for some sort of sequel, like using Neuroscience as a launching pad to discuss biochemistry, genetics, informatics, and philosophy.


...you mean like NOVA ScienceNOW, that started almost a decade ago which Tyson hosted for five seasons?
 
2014-06-08 08:29:25 PM  

that bosnian sniper: Psychohazard: This was one of the best series on TV in a while.  Here's hoping for some sort of sequel, like using Neuroscience as a launching pad to discuss biochemistry, genetics, informatics, and philosophy.

...you mean like NOVA ScienceNOW, that started almost a decade ago which Tyson hosted for five seasons?


No, not like that.
 
2014-06-08 08:47:22 PM  
It's not been that good a series. Kinda light on the production values, and he jumped around a lot. Not a good narrative flow at all. The commercials were the final nail in the coffin. A noble effort, but something like this really belongs on PBS.

Last week was frustrating. Made some nice clear points about global warming, but didn't close the sale. You do NOT make a statement like "global warming is increasing the number and severity of storms" without backing it up with some data. There is no clear data showing that yet. We're coming off some quiet hurricane and tornado seasons. People are going to throw that in your face. He needed to make a complete airtight case, and didn't . And he was SO close. He talked about the carbon balance, good, killed the volcano argument the deniers use, but did NOT address how much CO2 the biosphere throws into the air. He needed to address that, because deniers will bring it up. Frustrating.
 
2014-06-08 08:47:34 PM  
I haven't been here for the past few threads but I will definitely join in for the finale.
 
2014-06-08 08:48:16 PM  

mark12A: It's not been that good a series. Kinda light on the production values, and he jumped around a lot. Not a good narrative flow at all.


I disagree 100%. It's beautifully shot and well-edited. Tyson has a good way of explaining concepts and linking them together. You're just reaching for things to be critical about.
 
2014-06-08 08:50:08 PM  

mark12A: It's not been that good a series. Kinda light on the production values, and he jumped around a lot. Not a good narrative flow at all. The commercials were the final nail in the coffin. A noble effort, but something like this really belongs on PBS.

Last week was frustrating. Made some nice clear points about global warming, but didn't close the sale. You do NOT make a statement like "global warming is increasing the number and severity of storms" without backing it up with some data. There is no clear data showing that yet. We're coming off some quiet hurricane and tornado seasons. People are going to throw that in your face. He needed to make a complete airtight case, and didn't . And he was SO close. He talked about the carbon balance, good, killed the volcano argument the deniers use, but did NOT address how much CO2 the biosphere throws into the air. He needed to address that, because deniers will bring it up. Frustrating.


c.mql5.com
 
2014-06-08 08:50:12 PM  
final episode :( now what show we going use going to use to drink?
 
2014-06-08 08:55:10 PM  

BeerBear: final episode :( now what show we going use going to use to drink?


You're ready for pointless, aimless drinking now, young padawan

/jedi drinker
 
2014-06-08 08:59:09 PM  
SCIENCE TIME!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:00:01 PM  
OK, I like NdGT, but if you all can just dial back the NdGT fanboi intensity, that would be good...
 
2014-06-08 09:01:23 PM  
It sucks that it's ending, but all good things do.
 
2014-06-08 09:01:31 PM  
Whoo, Great Lighthouse!
+1 naval movement and free lighthouse in the city!
 
2014-06-08 09:01:33 PM  
SCIENCE!!

/Last time, sadly.
 
2014-06-08 09:01:35 PM  
Got 3 hrs before it starts. I sure do like reading the posts though.
 
2014-06-08 09:01:42 PM  
WOOHOO GEOGRAPHY!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:01:49 PM  
Ann Druyan loves that damn library.
 
2014-06-08 09:02:02 PM  

mark12A: OK, I like NdGT, but if you all can just dial back the NdGT fanboi intensity, that would be good...


Can you point that out for me? I'm not finding any.
 
2014-06-08 09:02:56 PM  

picodenico: WOOHOO GEOGRAPHY!!!


Geography!  FARK YEA!!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:03:18 PM  
And we use that ability... to look at porn and cat pictures.
 
2014-06-08 09:03:21 PM  
Can you imagine being able to go back in time to the Alexandrian library?
 
2014-06-08 09:03:28 PM  
Bad mob, bad!
 
2014-06-08 09:03:39 PM  
Oooo, spent some money on the library set...

Who was the Mob, Neil?
 
2014-06-08 09:03:56 PM  

BagofOtters: Got 3 hrs before it starts. I sure do like reading the posts though.


less reading and more drinking
 
2014-06-08 09:04:03 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Can you imagine being able to go back in time to the Alexandrian library?


All you need is the SHIP OF IMAGINATION!
 
2014-06-08 09:04:07 PM  
Wait, I'm sorry, was that too fanboish for you?

Sorry, that library looks totally fake. I know from the pixels.
 
2014-06-08 09:04:17 PM  
Jenny McCarty and Ken Ham have sizable followings.

The Mobs already here, Neil
 
2014-06-08 09:04:27 PM  
The mob's already here, Neil. What a virulent strain of anti-intellectualism we have in this country, to say nothing of the rest of the world.
 
2014-06-08 09:04:28 PM  
Hypatia <cringe>

It's not pronounced Hy-patia.  It's Hippa-tia.
 
2014-06-08 09:04:46 PM  

mark12A: Oooo, spent some money on the library set...

Who was the Mob, Neil?


He said it was the poor in the city.
 
2014-06-08 09:04:58 PM  

sirbissel: And we use that ability... to look at porn and cat pictures.


and that's bad? :p
 
2014-06-08 09:05:04 PM  

picodenico: cameroncrazy1984: Can you imagine being able to go back in time to the Alexandrian library?

All you need is the SHIP OF IMAGINATION!


No, sorry, I'm told that the Ship isn't pretty enough. Not enough production value on that ship.
 
2014-06-08 09:05:22 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: The mob's already here, Neil. What a virulent strain of anti-intellectualism we have in this country, to say nothing of the rest of the world.


GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!
 
2014-06-08 09:05:27 PM  

mark12A: Oooo, spent some money on the library set...

Who was the Mob, Neil?


bluescreen and cgi
 
2014-06-08 09:05:47 PM  
Oh god, he's going to experiment on us!
 
2014-06-08 09:05:48 PM  

crypticsatellite: mark12A: Oooo, spent some money on the library set...

Who was the Mob, Neil?

He said it was the poor in the city.


I didn't see a footnote so it's invalid.

/okay, I'm done now, just going to enjoy the show
 
2014-06-08 09:07:05 PM  
Hm. That's an interesting perspective.
 
2014-06-08 09:07:15 PM  
I should probably go out into the real world and spend time with real people.

I'm scared.
 
2014-06-08 09:07:29 PM  
Just curious about ratings--is Cosmos considered a genuine ratings hit? Has it performed well enough that a 2nd season is likely?
 
2014-06-08 09:07:45 PM  
MOAR GEOGRAPHY!!!  MOAR!!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:08:45 PM  

Corn_Fed: Just curious about ratings--is Cosmos considered a genuine ratings hit? Has it performed well enough that a 2nd season is likely?


It's done quite well in the ratings, but if there is a second season, Tyson won't be in it. He said the one season was enough given the time away from family and such it entailed.
 
2014-06-08 09:08:45 PM  

Corn_Fed: Just curious about ratings--is Cosmos considered a genuine ratings hit? Has it performed well enough that a 2nd season is likely?


It's not a question of performance, it's more that NdT has said that he doesn't want to do a second season.
 
2014-06-08 09:09:05 PM  

Corn_Fed: Just curious about ratings--is Cosmos considered a genuine ratings hit? Has it performed well enough that a 2nd season is likely?


Sadly, no.  Neil doesn't want to host a second season.

I am HOPING though, that someone else does.

Bill Nye, or another woman was suggested last week.
 
2014-06-08 09:09:37 PM  

Corn_Fed: Just curious about ratings--is Cosmos considered a genuine ratings hit? Has it performed well enough that a 2nd season is likely?


there are no plans for one, at least not one hosted by NdGT
 
2014-06-08 09:10:16 PM  

Corn_Fed: Just curious about ratings--is Cosmos considered a genuine ratings hit? Has it performed well enough that a 2nd season is likely?


I've heard many places say it's a one time only reboot. Incredibly expensive, and insanely time consuming for NDT.
 
2014-06-08 09:11:03 PM  
It's always cool when you look for something and find something else instead.
 
2014-06-08 09:11:11 PM  
Hopefully they do another season.  Maybe Michio Kaku could do it.
 
2014-06-08 09:11:43 PM  
shame there won't be a 2nd season, really enjoy the show. The dvd will have several hours of extras for me to enjoy
 
2014-06-08 09:12:36 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: It's always cool when you look for something and find something else instead.


I'm paraphrasing here:

The most interesting words in science aren't "AH-HA," but "That's strange."
 
2014-06-08 09:12:43 PM  
Can somebody post the "love me some white add" GIF of NdGT?
 
2014-06-08 09:13:14 PM  

geom_00: Corn_Fed: Just curious about ratings--is Cosmos considered a genuine ratings hit? Has it performed well enough that a 2nd season is likely?

Sadly, no.  Neil doesn't want to host a second season.

I am HOPING though, that someone else does.

Bill Nye, or another woman was suggested last week.


Amy Mainzer
david.heineke.name

I find Alex Filipenko amusing as well...
 
2014-06-08 09:13:36 PM  

geom_00: cameroncrazy1984: It's always cool when you look for something and find something else instead.

I'm paraphrasing here:

The most interesting words in science aren't "AH-HA," but "That's strange."


I like that.
 
2014-06-08 09:14:57 PM  
A Champagne Supernova?
 
2014-06-08 09:15:04 PM  

BeerBear: shame there won't be a 2nd season, really enjoy the show. The dvd will have several hours of extras for me to enjoy


A while back, there was someone in the series production in these threads. perhaps that person can confirm this.
 
2014-06-08 09:15:12 PM  

Vacation Bible School: Amy Mainzer
david.heineke.name


I'd vote for her!
 
2014-06-08 09:15:46 PM  
I didn't see a footnote so it's invalid.

From Wiki....
In 642 AD, Alexandria was captured by the Muslim army of
Abd al-Latif al-Baghdadi (medieval writer)Abd'l Latif of Baghdad (1162-1231) states that the library of Alexandria was destroyed by Amr, by the order of the Caliph Omar...


This was the final destruction, other Armies started on it...
 
2014-06-08 09:16:10 PM  
Stars are some of the most interesting things in the universe to me.
 
2014-06-08 09:16:35 PM  
"We don't have to pretend we have all the answers."

Let the fundie butthurt commence.
 
2014-06-08 09:16:38 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: It's always cool when you look for something and find something else instead.


I'm not dumb but I can't understand why she walks like a woman but talks like a man ...

/ell oh ell ay
//I know, I need help
 
2014-06-08 09:16:45 PM  

mark12A: I didn't see a footnote so it's invalid.

From Wiki....
In 642 AD, Alexandria was captured by the Muslim army of
Abd al-Latif al-Baghdadi (medieval writer)Abd'l Latif of Baghdad (1162-1231) states that the library of Alexandria was destroyed by Amr, by the order of the Caliph Omar...

This was the final destruction, other Armies started on it...


Thanks, that was sarcasm.
 
2014-06-08 09:17:26 PM  
He forgot Pluto!

/It's still a planet to me
 
2014-06-08 09:18:56 PM  
Did he just do 'I'm a little teapot?'
 
2014-06-08 09:18:57 PM  

geom_00: The most interesting words in science aren't "AH-HA," but "That's strange."


Isaac Asimov "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
 
2014-06-08 09:19:13 PM  
I think he just did the:

Ney sayers gonna ney say!
 
2014-06-08 09:19:17 PM  

mark12A: It's not been that good a series. Kinda light on the production values, and he jumped around a lot. Not a good narrative flow at all. The commercials were the final nail in the coffin. A noble effort, but something like this really belongs on PBS.

Last week was frustrating. Made some nice clear points about global warming, but didn't close the sale. You do NOT make a statement like "global warming is increasing the number and severity of storms" without backing it up with some data. There is no clear data showing that yet. We're coming off some quiet hurricane and tornado seasons. People are going to throw that in your face. He needed to make a complete airtight case, and didn't . And he was SO close. He talked about the carbon balance, good, killed the volcano argument the deniers use, but did NOT address how much CO2 the biosphere throws into the air. He needed to address that, because deniers will bring it up. Frustrating.


a.fod4.com
 
2014-06-08 09:19:54 PM  

WhyteRaven74: geom_00: The most interesting words in science aren't "AH-HA," but "That's strange."

Isaac Asimov "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"


Thank you!
 
2014-06-08 09:20:09 PM  
I almost always want to go outside and look up at the stars after one of these types of episodes.
 
2014-06-08 09:20:23 PM  
Then there's the physicist who when told they discovered a new particle responded with "Who ordered that?".
 
2014-06-08 09:20:51 PM  

picodenico: Did he just do 'I'm a little teapot?'


sure looks like it
 
2014-06-08 09:21:21 PM  

geom_00: Thank you!


welcome :)
 
2014-06-08 09:21:40 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I almost always want to go outside and look up at the stars after one of these types of episodes.


I have when the damn clouds are away
 
2014-06-08 09:22:17 PM  

AngryTeacher: BeerBear: shame there won't be a 2nd season, really enjoy the show. The dvd will have several hours of extras for me to enjoy

A while back, there was someone in the series production in these threads. perhaps that person can confirm this.


would be nice if they add another season
 
2014-06-08 09:22:32 PM  
Augh the last episode of science erotica!!! I don't apologize for my fanboism of NdGT, intelligent men turn me on and he has a sexy voice and bedroom eyes.

/definitely getting the boxed set
 
2014-06-08 09:22:34 PM  
Sorry Neil, I consider Dark Matter to be Theology. "It's there, trust us. Can't see it, can't show you any, but it's there" Sorta like heaven, I guess.

OH MY GOD IT'S RON REAGAN!!! AND HE'S NOT AFRAID OF BURNING IN HELL!!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:22:58 PM  
Well my TV decided to not work up to the first commercial break. I miss anything important in the first segment?

/Curry Udon
//Umeshu
///Cosmos finale
////Life is good
 
2014-06-08 09:23:24 PM  

BeerBear: AngryTeacher: BeerBear: shame there won't be a 2nd season, really enjoy the show. The dvd will have several hours of extras for me to enjoy

A while back, there was someone in the series production in these threads. perhaps that person can confirm this.

would be nice if they add another season


A purely selfish reason here....  My ten and seven year olds are obsessed with the show. Please keep it going.
 
2014-06-08 09:23:27 PM  

mark12A: Sorry Neil, I consider Dark Matter to be Theology. "It's there, trust us. Can't see it, can't show you any, but it's there"


Huh. I was unaware that sight was the only sense that humans have. And eyes the only tool.
 
2014-06-08 09:23:36 PM  
Carl had planned to do a second series after "Cosmos." It was to be called, "Ethos."
 
2014-06-08 09:23:44 PM  
I always knew Ronald Reagan was a satanist!
 
2014-06-08 09:23:46 PM  

BeerBear: I have when the damn clouds are away


Given how cheap electronics are these days I'm surprised no one has made small radio telescopes for the home. Oh sure you won't see the stars with one, but you can see all sorts of other interesting stuff.
 
2014-06-08 09:24:02 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I almost always want to go outside and look up at the stars after one of these types of episodes.


I feel the same way and felt the same with Sagan's Cosmos too. I hope Carl gets a shout out tonight.
 
2014-06-08 09:24:24 PM  

mark12A: Sorry Neil, I consider Dark Matter to be Theology. "It's there, trust us. Can't see it, can't show you any, but it's there" Sorta like heaven, I guess.

OH MY GOD IT'S RON REAGAN!!! AND HE'S NOT AFRAID OF BURNING IN HELL!!!!


There is SOME evidence for it. It's our current best theory for the gravitational effect. That's one more piece of evidence than for anything theological.
 
2014-06-08 09:24:26 PM  

farkingismybusiness: I always knew Ronald Reagan was a satanist!


that ad was great.
 
2014-06-08 09:24:38 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Can you imagine being able to go back in time to the Alexandrian library?


OMG that is my favorite fantasy of all time. Seriously, no snark.
 
2014-06-08 09:25:51 PM  

WhyteRaven74: BeerBear: I have when the damn clouds are away

Given how cheap electronics are these days I'm surprised no one has made small radio telescopes for the home. Oh sure you won't see the stars with one, but you can see all sorts of other interesting stuff.


Um....I for one would throw money at a kickstarter for that.
 
2014-06-08 09:26:01 PM  

mark12A: Sorry Neil, I consider Dark Matter to be Theology. "It's there, trust us. Can't see it, can't show you any, but it's there" Sorta like heaven, I guess.


Do you feel the same way about gravity? Cause we've never seen gravity. Ever. All we have are the effects of it. But gravity itself alone? Despite a lot of time and money so far no one has observed it by itself.
 
2014-06-08 09:26:04 PM  

WhyteRaven74: BeerBear: I have when the damn clouds are away

Given how cheap electronics are these days I'm surprised no one has made small radio telescopes for the home. Oh sure you won't see the stars with one, but you can see all sorts of other interesting stuff.


That would be fun to have.
 
2014-06-08 09:26:14 PM  

shastacola: I feel the same way and felt the same with Sagan's Cosmos too. I hope Carl gets a shout out tonight.


He's had one in just about every episode. I'm would think there will be another tonight.
 
2014-06-08 09:26:29 PM  
Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:27:22 PM  

WhyteRaven74: mark12A: Sorry Neil, I consider Dark Matter to be Theology. "It's there, trust us. Can't see it, can't show you any, but it's there" Sorta like heaven, I guess.

Do you feel the same way about gravity? Cause we've never seen gravity. Ever. All we have are the effects of it. But gravity itself alone? Despite a lot of time and money so far no one has observed it by itself.


Obviously gravity is religion.
 
2014-06-08 09:27:26 PM  
Heh, a 'that's funny' moment.
 
2014-06-08 09:28:32 PM  
I don't know what I said or did for the one month of TF, but THANK YOU Chicken_little (if you're in here)
 
2014-06-08 09:28:35 PM  

nucular bum: Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!


Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.
 
2014-06-08 09:28:58 PM  

geom_00: Um....I for one would throw money at a kickstarter for that.


So would I.

cameroncrazy1984: That would be fun to have.


Yep it would.
 
2014-06-08 09:29:11 PM  

spottymax: nucular bum: Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!

Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.


Had to be local; I didn't see it.
 
2014-06-08 09:29:46 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: spottymax: nucular bum: Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!

Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.

Had to be local; I didn't see it.


I saw it in the Boston area.
 
2014-06-08 09:29:53 PM  

geom_00: I don't know what I said or did for the one month of TF, but THANK YOU Chicken_little (if you're in here)


Ditto!
 
2014-06-08 09:29:59 PM  

spottymax: nucular bum: Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!

Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.


I didn't see it either.
 
2014-06-08 09:30:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: spottymax: nucular bum: Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!

Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.

Had to be local; I didn't see it.


me either
 
2014-06-08 09:30:39 PM  

crypticsatellite: I saw it in the Boston area.


I saw it in Chicago.

also anyone with TF notice the Fark logo at the top of the page?
 
2014-06-08 09:30:59 PM  

shastacola: cameroncrazy1984: I almost always want to go outside and look up at the stars after one of these types of episodes.

I feel the same way and felt the same with Sagan's Cosmos too. I hope Carl gets a shout out tonight.


I hope he does Carl reading Pale Blue Dot with new graphics, photography, etc.
 
2014-06-08 09:31:08 PM  
I didn't get the FFRF ad either. Just looked it up on youtube, it certainly pulls no punches.

/I like it
 
2014-06-08 09:31:27 PM  
I'm kind of disappointed in the lack of commercials in this episode.
 
2014-06-08 09:31:29 PM  

WhyteRaven74: also anyone with TF notice the Fark logo at the top of the page?


I did!  Very cool!
 
2014-06-08 09:31:48 PM  

spottymax: nucular bum: Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!

Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.


Not here in Arkansas. Did see it twice a couple of weeks ago during The Daily Show and Colbert Report.
 
2014-06-08 09:32:09 PM  

WhyteRaven74: crypticsatellite: I saw it in the Boston area.

I saw it in Chicago.

also anyone with TF notice the Fark logo at the top of the page?


Yup. :)
 
2014-06-08 09:32:12 PM  

geom_00: I don't know what I said or did for the one month of TF, but THANK YOU Chicken_little (if you're in here)


Whoa.

Yeah, ditto. Thanks!
 
2014-06-08 09:32:14 PM  

Aquapope: shastacola: cameroncrazy1984: I almost always want to go outside and look up at the stars after one of these types of episodes.

I feel the same way and felt the same with Sagan's Cosmos too. I hope Carl gets a shout out tonight.

I hope he does Carl reading Pale Blue Dot with new graphics, photography, etc.


Oh gods, I hope so. The Pale Blue Dot is some of the most powerful writing in the world to me.
 
2014-06-08 09:32:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Can you imagine being able to go back in time to the Alexandrian library?


No Twilight, No Tom Clancy.........

I'll pass.
 
2014-06-08 09:32:26 PM  
WALL-e
 
2014-06-08 09:32:27 PM  

AngryTeacher: I'm kind of disappointed in the lack of commercials in this episode.


Hey everyone I found TNT's NASCAR coverage producer!
 
2014-06-08 09:32:39 PM  
Every time I want to feel small I remember that the Big Red Spot is 3x the size of this entire planet.
 
2014-06-08 09:32:48 PM  
Just a friendly reminder that there was 4 Voyager probes planned, but Nixon cut the last two from the budget.
 
2014-06-08 09:33:05 PM  

spottymax: nucular bum: Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!

Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.


I think it was local.

/chicago
 
2014-06-08 09:33:05 PM  
Here's the set up....
 
2014-06-08 09:33:08 PM  

WhyteRaven74: also anyone with TF notice the Fark logo at the top of the page?


Hah nice.
 
2014-06-08 09:34:14 PM  
Here we go. VGer
 
2014-06-08 09:34:40 PM  

crypticsatellite: cameroncrazy1984: spottymax: nucular bum: Ho. Lee. FARK. Ad for Freedom from Religion Foundation with Ron Reagan. "...not afraid of burning in hell!" Yeaaaaaahhhh!!!

Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.

Had to be local; I didn't see it.

I saw it in the Boston area.


I wasn't paying attention to commercials, holler if you see it again
 
2014-06-08 09:34:46 PM  

Flying Lasagna Monster: Just a friendly reminder that there was 4 Voyager probes planned, but Nixon cut the last two from the budget.


A further reminder that if the right wingers in the US govt - either the economic or religious conservative kind - got their way all the time, literally nothing that NASA has ever done would've happened.
 
2014-06-08 09:35:32 PM  
Was this a national ad?  Local station had a news update last break.

Saw it in Philly.
 
2014-06-08 09:36:29 PM  
Holy shiat, why is chicken_little giving out TF to this whole thread?!

Thanks, not that I have the time to really take advantage of it.... xD
 
2014-06-08 09:37:34 PM  

Pariah.: this whole thread?!


Not the whole thread...
 
2014-06-08 09:38:05 PM  

kimwim: Pariah.: this whole thread?!

Not the whole thread...


:(
 
2014-06-08 09:38:11 PM  
So...on August 1st, we finally find out what the Fox says??
 
2014-06-08 09:38:15 PM  
I must be hitting some wrong buttons. Definitely don't mean to do anything nice for anyone. ;)
 
2014-06-08 09:38:31 PM  

chicken_little: I must be hitting some wrong buttons. Definitely don't mean to do anything nice for anyone. ;)


Hahahahahha
 
2014-06-08 09:38:38 PM  

crypticsatellite: WhyteRaven74: crypticsatellite: I saw it in the Boston area.

I saw it in Chicago.

also anyone with TF notice the Fark logo at the top of the page?

Yup. :)


screenshot for us pleebs?
 
2014-06-08 09:38:42 PM  

geom_00: So...on August 1st, we finally find out what the Fox says??


"Benghazi"?
 
2014-06-08 09:39:37 PM  

GRCooper: geom_00: So...on August 1st, we finally find out what the Fox says??

"Benghazi"?


touche
 
2014-06-08 09:39:54 PM  

WhyteRaven74: geom_00: Um....I for one would throw money at a kickstarter for that.

So would I.

cameroncrazy1984: That would be fun to have.

Yep it would.


It already exists, it just depends on how handy you are with a soldering iron:

The Society of Amateur Radio Astronomy website

http://radio-astronomy.org/e-store

has plans for an Itty Bitty Radio Telescope

http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/epo/teachers/ittybitty/procedure.html

that you can cobble together at home.  If you're completely inept at that kind of stuff, contact your local amateur radio club

http://www.arrl.org/find-a-club

and see if anyone can help.

Warning:  highly addictive hobby
 
2014-06-08 09:40:01 PM  

GRCooper: geom_00: So...on August 1st, we finally find out what the Fox says??

"Benghazi"?


Fox, not Fox News.
 
2014-06-08 09:40:12 PM  

chicken_little: I must be hitting some wrong buttons. Definitely don't mean to do anything nice for anyone. ;)


Thank you!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:40:31 PM  

mark12A: Sorry Neil, I consider Dark Matter to be Theology. "It's there, trust us. Can't see it, can't show you any, but it's there" Sorta like heaven, I guess.


Neil pointed out that the term "dark" matter or energy is a reference to our ignorance.

It must hurt to be that dumb. At least, dear God, I hope it does.
 
2014-06-08 09:40:38 PM  
Dark matter is global warming of astrophysics, in that most astrophysicist are in agreement that dark matter is actually matter, but most lay people (who think about it at all) seem not to.

There are several lines of evidence showing dark matter being matter, rather than a breakdown of gravitational theory (e.g., MOND). The Bullet Cluster more or less puts the nails in the coffin of theories like MOND. Dark matter is far from "theology".

There is also precedent for a particle being theorized before its discovery. Neutrinos, for example, were theorized a good 30 years before being discovered in the lab. And there's also the Higgs Boson.
 
2014-06-08 09:40:45 PM  

Vacation Bible School: crypticsatellite: WhyteRaven74: crypticsatellite: I saw it in the Boston area.

I saw it in Chicago.

also anyone with TF notice the Fark logo at the top of the page?

Yup. :)

screenshot for us pleebs?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7INIhD9P0Pw

/haven't seen it tonight but have seen it somewhere recently, maybe a previous episode of this
 
2014-06-08 09:40:45 PM  

Vacation Bible School: crypticsatellite: WhyteRaven74: crypticsatellite: I saw it in the Boston area.

I saw it in Chicago.

also anyone with TF notice the Fark logo at the top of the page?

Yup. :)

screenshot for us pleebs?


Gah. What is FARK's image size limit?
 
2014-06-08 09:40:48 PM  

WhyteRaven74: crypticsatellite: I saw it in the Boston area.

I saw it in Chicago.

also anyone with TF notice the Fark logo at the top of the page?


And did you notice the alt text of the image? :)
 
2014-06-08 09:40:50 PM  
Just getting the Freedom from Religion Foundation ad here in the Minneapolis/St Paul area.
 
2014-06-08 09:41:16 PM  
Thanks for the TF, dugitman.  I see you started drinking early.
 
2014-06-08 09:41:18 PM  
Woah, finally saw the FFRF Ron Reagan ad.  That's gonna twist some panties.....
 
2014-06-08 09:41:29 PM  

chicken_little: I must be hitting some wrong buttons. Definitely don't mean to do anything nice for anyone. ;)


Thanks bro. Even though I don't really have the time to browse liter FARK, much less all the threads in TF. xD
 
2014-06-08 09:41:48 PM  

geom_00: So...on August 1st, we finally find out what the Fox says??


http://vine.co/v/hpeznLDY2b7
 
2014-06-08 09:41:49 PM  
WOW!

I just saw the FFRF ad.

I am religious, and Catholic.  I APPLAUD that ad.

WHAT is the capitol of ASSYRIA?!?
 
2014-06-08 09:42:16 PM  
Well, now we know where Sagan got the name for the character in Contact.
 
2014-06-08 09:42:31 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Can you imagine being able to go back in time to the Alexandrian library?


My preference would 1885 in the old west. "Marty I told you explicitly not to come here"....
 
2014-06-08 09:42:31 PM  

udhq: Woah, finally saw the FFRF Ron Reagan ad.  That's gonna twist some panties.....


Just saw it in Minneapolis.

Awesome ad!
 
2014-06-08 09:42:49 PM  

Flying Lasagna Monster: Just a friendly reminder that there was 4 Voyager probes planned, but Nixon cut the last two from the budget.


At least we didn't launch Voyager 6.
 
2014-06-08 09:43:25 PM  
well...since I don't have tv...torrent time!
(yeah...i'll still buy it when it come out on disk)
 
2014-06-08 09:44:09 PM  
They have pretty poor taste in music. Just saying...
 
2014-06-08 09:44:44 PM  
We didn't have that ad in CT
 
2014-06-08 09:45:00 PM  
Seeing Voyager rocket past the ship just made me really sad....
 
2014-06-08 09:45:08 PM  
Heh. The contents of that probe really do show us as a race of hopeless romantics, huh?
 
2014-06-08 09:45:10 PM  
God, that Blind Willy Johnson story gets me every time.....
 
2014-06-08 09:45:19 PM  
Send more Chuck Barry!
 
2014-06-08 09:46:03 PM  

Pariah.: Heh. The contents of that probe really do show us as a race of hopeless romantics, huh?


Just wait til that thing gets to Vulcan.
 
2014-06-08 09:46:03 PM  
*blinks* Thank you chicken_little for the TF gift.

Thought I was seeing things and one too many drinks when I saw that message
 
2014-06-08 09:46:11 PM  

farkingismybusiness: They have pretty poor taste in music. Just saying..



laf
 
2014-06-08 09:46:48 PM  

chicken_little: I must be hitting some wrong buttons. Definitely don't mean to do anything nice for anyone. ;)


too much booze? :p
 
2014-06-08 09:46:48 PM  

crypticsatellite: And did you notice the alt text of the image? :)


The what?
 
2014-06-08 09:46:51 PM  
The thought of the Voyager probes gives me chills. It's fascinating to imagine some being examining them after we're long gone. I have the greatest respect for the folks who designed and cconstructed them.
 
2014-06-08 09:46:55 PM  
Trying this image link again....

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-08 09:47:06 PM  
The origin of S. R. Hadden:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esarhaddon
 
2014-06-08 09:47:12 PM  
That kid who said "Hello from the children of the world"? One of Carl's sons.
 
2014-06-08 09:47:19 PM  
He's been talking about the Voyagers - he has to close out the series with Pale Blue Dot.  Perfect homage to Carl.
 
2014-06-08 09:47:26 PM  
I'm getting out of this is that the commercial break is a billion years...
 
2014-06-08 09:47:27 PM  

chicken_little: I must be hitting some wrong buttons. Definitely don't mean to do anything nice for anyone. ;)


Thanks for hitting the wrong buttons, dude.
 
2014-06-08 09:47:37 PM  

Pariah.: Trying this image link again....


Very cool.

Thanks
 
2014-06-08 09:47:44 PM  
Didn't see the ad in SW Florida, time to search the YouTubes.
 
2014-06-08 09:47:46 PM  

Aquapope: He's been talking about the Voyagers - he has to close out the series with Pale Blue Dot.  Perfect homage to Carl.


Gods I hope so.
 
2014-06-08 09:48:19 PM  

Pariah.: Trying this image link again....

[i.imgur.com image 357x192]


look for an occasional variant logo of that too. -snert-
 
2014-06-08 09:48:33 PM  

Pariah.: Trying this image link again....

[i.imgur.com image 357x192]


Sweet :)
 
2014-06-08 09:48:34 PM  

trekkiecougar: The thought of the Voyager probes gives me chills. It's fascinating to imagine some being examining them after we're long gone. I have the greatest respect for the folks who designed and cconstructed them.


Ditto. It's incredible to think about, truly.
 
2014-06-08 09:49:00 PM  
A Chrysler commercial, Snapple, Cosmos DVD promo, FOX promo (Beiber? YUCK), news update.
 
2014-06-08 09:49:22 PM  

dugitman: look for an occasional variant logo of that too. -snert-


OH GOD NO
 
2014-06-08 09:49:24 PM  
It is fascinating, at least to me, to think that there are other places out there in the universe where humans could exist. I will never get there, but maybe some of our young people will be inspired too. Our time are Earth is finite.
 
2014-06-08 09:49:44 PM  
Here we go.

YESSSSSSSS
 
2014-06-08 09:49:52 PM  
Here it comes...
 
2014-06-08 09:50:23 PM  
here we go
 
2014-06-08 09:50:24 PM  
There we go.
 
2014-06-08 09:50:25 PM  
Pale Blue Dot.
 
2014-06-08 09:50:27 PM  
Oh, shiat.....
 
2014-06-08 09:50:36 PM  

Pariah.: Aquapope: He's been talking about the Voyagers - he has to close out the series with Pale Blue Dot.  Perfect homage to Carl.

Gods I hope so.


NAILED IT!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:50:46 PM  
Yeah, I'm crying.  fark you.
 
2014-06-08 09:51:13 PM  
In a few hundred years there will be a big fight, when we have the capability to overtake and retrieve the Voyagers, as to whether we should just grab them and put them in a museum...
 
2014-06-08 09:51:21 PM  
Yes!!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:51:23 PM  
Yes yes yes Pale Blue Dot!!!!!!
 
2014-06-08 09:51:29 PM  

Aquapope: I hope he does Carl reading Pale Blue Dot with new graphics, photography, etc.


files.gamebanana.com
 
2014-06-08 09:51:30 PM  
I was blinking when they took that picture, send another probe
 
2014-06-08 09:52:16 PM  
Some of the most powerful words ever written.

/Manly tears T_T7
 
2014-06-08 09:53:03 PM  

Aquapope: Yeah, I'm crying.  fark you.

 
2014-06-08 09:53:12 PM  
Oh Damn.  This is beautiful.
 
2014-06-08 09:53:24 PM  

Aquapope: Yeah, I'm crying.  fark you.


You aren't alone.
 
2014-06-08 09:53:33 PM  

picodenico: crypticsatellite: And did you notice the alt text of the image? :)

The what?


Alt text is an HTML thing that displays a user-settable text if the image cannot display. It says, "Au revoir, Cosmos."
 
2014-06-08 09:53:44 PM  
Damn it, that man was GOOD.
 
2014-06-08 09:53:45 PM  
*wipes tear*
 
2014-06-08 09:53:53 PM  
Lot of nerds are crying right now.....
 
2014-06-08 09:54:00 PM  
Goosebumps and a smile.  That was great.
 
2014-06-08 09:54:08 PM  
That was beautiful.
 
2014-06-08 09:54:44 PM  

chicken_little: I must be hitting some wrong buttons. Definitely don't mean to do anything nice for anyone. ;)


Thanks as well!  You're wonderful!
 
2014-06-08 09:54:51 PM  
speck of dust got in my eye
 
2014-06-08 09:55:34 PM  
The Pale Blue Dot always gets me. Always.
 
2014-06-08 09:55:40 PM  
I'm behind you all!!
 
2014-06-08 09:56:11 PM  
I'm not gonna lie.  It's getting pretty damn dusty in here.
 
2014-06-08 09:56:15 PM  
Strong close.
 
2014-06-08 09:56:50 PM  
So so beautiful
 
2014-06-08 09:57:46 PM  

geom_00: I'm not gonna lie.  It's getting pretty damn dusty in here.


Just a bit.

This whole thing is a Love Song to Science. It's beautiful.
 
2014-06-08 09:57:56 PM  
right now...on one side of the moon is Saturn and on the other is Mars.
pretty cool
 
2014-06-08 09:58:19 PM  

BeerBear: BagofOtters: Got 3 hrs before it starts. I sure do like reading the posts though.

less reading and more drinking


I saw it posted on usenet last night.... Left it there, didn't download it and watch it because that is bad, mkay?
 
2014-06-08 09:58:38 PM  
Oh! Oh my! Thank you! You are too kind!
 
2014-06-08 09:59:37 PM  

Neil deGrasse Tyson @neiltyson 28m
Between scenes on #Cosmos. Hadrian'sVilla. Surely the cover art for my nonexistent album of love songs pic.twitter.com/e2CkPiUrzD

pbs.twimg.com

 
2014-06-08 09:59:46 PM  
I feel privileged to have shared this with you all
 
2014-06-08 10:00:00 PM  
wow, good ending but sad too. Wish we had more
 
2014-06-08 10:00:05 PM  
You know it's a mesmerizing fer minutes when your screensaver pops up in a discussion thread.

That was a beautiful last 10 minutes. Thank you Neil.
 
2014-06-08 10:00:21 PM  
So who do we have to pester to get a season 2?
 
2014-06-08 10:00:38 PM  
www.bestgifever.com
 
2014-06-08 10:01:30 PM  
THANK YOU to all of you who made this series a REAL TREAT to watch with you.  Thank you for correcting me when I was wrong, thank you for making fun of the fundies, and not making fun of my religiousness.

Most of all, just THANK YOU for having a thread EVERY WEEK!

/chicken_little thank you again!
 
2014-06-08 10:01:35 PM  
chicken_little for president.  thanks much
 
2014-06-08 10:01:42 PM  
That was beautiful.
 
2014-06-08 10:01:46 PM  
Maybe not the poetry of Sagan, but an eloquent plea for sanity. A good thumbprint for Neil's message with this iteration.
 
2014-06-08 10:01:48 PM  
Every once in a while you have to immerse yourself in stuff like this to help inoculate yourself against the anti-science that's become so thick these last few decades.
 
2014-06-08 10:02:01 PM  

crypticsatellite: Alt text is an HTML thing that displays a user-settable text if the image cannot display. It says, "Au revoir, Cosmos."


Huh....can't say I really know what that means. But okie dokie.
 
2014-06-08 10:02:11 PM  
So...spotted another version of the TF Cosmos header image. Randomly appears.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-08 10:02:20 PM  

Vacation Bible School: So who do we have to pester to get a season 2?


Strong DVD sales might convince them.
 
2014-06-08 10:02:48 PM  
Wow. Makes remember how I became interested in science. Did not realize i would need to get all teary eyed....
 
2014-06-08 10:02:56 PM  
Great ending,loved the homage to Sagan.I hope the next spectacular science show will be on PBS without commercials though.
 
2014-06-08 10:03:20 PM  
That was amazing and sharing the discussion with all of you made it so much more enjoyable. This is why I love Fark.
 
2014-06-08 10:03:29 PM  
Thanks Mr Lawson.
I was wondering about the moon.
 
2014-06-08 10:03:39 PM  
Aw, thanks for the TFark dugitman!!!

And thanks to my fellow nerdy farkers for a great run of threads!  I'm drunk and I love you!
 
2014-06-08 10:03:40 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: pbs.twimg.com


flashwounds.com


/Pico If I am not in the 24 thread tomorrow, please tell everyone I said hi!!
 
2014-06-08 10:03:58 PM  

The Bestest: Vacation Bible School: So who do we have to pester to get a season 2?

Strong DVD sales might convince them.


I'm buying it, partly for that reason.

We know that NdT won't host it, but I'm sure they could find someone else who would do a great job. With or without NdT we NEED this show and things like it.
 
2014-06-08 10:04:32 PM  
Thanks for a great few months folks. This was truly wonderful. Enjoyed it every week. Gonna have to get the BluRay for sure.
 
2014-06-08 10:04:33 PM  

Pariah.: So...spotted another version of the TF Cosmos header image. Randomly appears.

[i.imgur.com image 354x194]


snert. Good catch. Don't expect us to be TOTALLY maudlin and shiat do you?
 
2014-06-08 10:04:40 PM  
Thanks guys for all the awesome discussion. Loved it.
 
2014-06-08 10:04:44 PM  
Holy cow, thanks chicken_little!
 
2014-06-08 10:04:45 PM  
you like science? HERE is science. This is what will enable us to get off this planet for good.
http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/06/nanotruss-for-super-lightweight-and .h tml
 
2014-06-08 10:05:44 PM  

trekkiecougar: The thought of the Voyager probes gives me chills. It's fascinating to imagine some being examining them after we're long gone. I have the greatest respect for the folks who designed and cconstructed them.


"Murmurs of Earth: The Voyager Interstellar Record" (Sagan) is the book to hunt down.

http://goldenrecord.org/ is cool in the meantime.
 
2014-06-08 10:05:44 PM  
The cosmos for all is almost here.
 
2014-06-08 10:06:23 PM  

Cpl.D: At office.  Missed.  But have DVR.  Can't wait to see this one.


The last 10 minutes are amazing and beautiful. A perfect conclusion.
 
2014-06-08 10:07:02 PM  
Here's the music that's on the Voyager Golder Record. I'm gonna check out some of these later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contents_of_the_Voyager_Golden_Record#M us ic
 
2014-06-08 10:07:23 PM  

The Bestest: Vacation Bible School: So who do we have to pester to get a season 2?

Strong DVD sales might convince them.


how were the rating been for the show?
 
2014-06-08 10:08:49 PM  

picodenico: The last 10 minutes are amazing and beautiful. A perfect conclusion.


So very much THIS!
 
2014-06-08 10:09:39 PM  

geom_00: picodenico: The last 10 minutes are amazing and beautiful. A perfect conclusion.

So very much THIS!


You sir, are an excellent internet stalker.
 
2014-06-08 10:10:10 PM  
Well guys, it's been fun when I've been able to show up for these threads. We should make a badge. Anyone got any ideas for one?
 
2014-06-08 10:10:18 PM  
At its core, Cosmos (both of them) were about Science and Knowledge, how we came by them, why we need them, what they can do for us.  It's a series about Science and why we should appreciate it in big broad terms.  It's not a show about a particular science or application of tech, except to illustrate the bigger picture of Science.

I don't know if you could do that with another 13 weeks.  But I would love to give that a try.
 
2014-06-08 10:10:22 PM  

timharrod: trekkiecougar: The thought of the Voyager probes gives me chills. It's fascinating to imagine some being examining them after we're long gone. I have the greatest respect for the folks who designed and cconstructed them.

"Murmurs of Earth: The Voyager Interstellar Record" (Sagan) is the book to hunt down.

http://goldenrecord.org/ is cool in the meantime.


Mahalo nui loa - many thanks!!!!!
 
2014-06-08 10:12:13 PM  

Pariah.: Well guys, it's been fun when I've been able to show up for these threads. We should make a badge. Anyone got any ideas for one?


Wow.  I can actually say I earned this one!!

We should do this!
 
2014-06-08 10:12:52 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: You sir, are an excellent internet stalker.


Thank you....I think :)
 
2014-06-08 10:15:20 PM  
"But I like it big"

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID
 
2014-06-08 10:15:45 PM  
What do you think, guys?

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-08 10:16:00 PM  
Sorry kids, not feeling it. It's lovely plea, "Can't we all just get along?" "it's the only home we got..etc."

But it's just a lament. The Scienticians love to whine about the inhumanity of man, but don't seem to have any ideas on how to resolve the struggle of freedom against tyranny. Bleeding for freedom is just so icky....
 
2014-06-08 10:16:52 PM  
Just through that one together, open to other text or designs.
 
2014-06-08 10:17:20 PM  

BeerBear: how were the rating been for the show?


Decent. Tended to lag a little being 'The Bachelorette' is it's slot. Sunday nights have become brutal anyway (primarily because of HBO and AMC).
DVD/BluRay sales will likely be the key indicator as to whether or not they want to give it another go.
 
2014-06-08 10:18:20 PM  
Still sad this is the last episode.  But now I have another Cosmos to put next to my original collection (at least once it's released). :)
 
2014-06-08 10:18:27 PM  

Pariah.: What do you think, guys?

[i.imgur.com image 370x380]


I, for one, LOVE that!!
 
2014-06-08 10:19:59 PM  

mark12A: Sorry kids, not feeling it. It's lovely plea, "Can't we all just get along?" "it's the only home we got..etc."

But it's just a lament. The Scienticians love to whine about the inhumanity of man, but don't seem to have any ideas on how to resolve the struggle of freedom against tyranny. Bleeding for freedom is just so icky....


That the best you've got? Pitiful.
 
2014-06-08 10:20:17 PM  

mark12A: Sorry kids, not feeling it. It's lovely plea, "Can't we all just get along?" "it's the only home we got..etc."

But it's just a lament. The Scienticians love to whine about the inhumanity of man, but don't seem to have any ideas on how to resolve the struggle of freedom against tyranny. Bleeding for freedom is just so icky....


I am the tyranny of evil men.

/what's that get me?
 
2014-06-08 10:25:01 PM  
Does anyone else get the feeling that this Mark guy is desperately wanting attention?
 
2014-06-08 10:25:17 PM  

AurizenDarkstar: Still sad this is the last episode.  But now I have another Cosmos to put next to my original collection (at least once it's released). :)


day after tomorrow for $60 (Amazon is pre-selling it for $30.. dunno for how long though)
 
2014-06-08 10:25:24 PM  

mark12A: Sorry kids, not feeling it. It's lovely plea, "Can't we all just get along?" "it's the only home we got..etc."

But it's just a lament. The Scienticians love to whine about the inhumanity of man, but don't seem to have any ideas on how to resolve the struggle of freedom against tyranny. Bleeding for freedom is just so icky....


Yeah, because throwing up our hands yelling, "Nope, nothing we can do at all - even a little bit - to make this world a better place" is the right answer.
 
2014-06-08 10:26:54 PM  

mark12A: The Scienticians love to whine about the inhumanity of man, but don't seem to have any ideas on how to resolve the struggle of freedom against tyranny.


Good thing they sent the message out- it might reach the person who'll discover the solution someday.
 
2014-06-08 10:28:59 PM  
I'm going to miss this. It gave me an opportunity to communicate with my son that, sadly, doesn't seem to exist otherwise. We really don't have any mutual interests, almost like he's rebelling against me. Imagine that.

I'll have to find something else we can truly enjoy together.
 
2014-06-08 10:29:57 PM  

The Bestest: BeerBear: how were the rating been for the show?

Decent. Tended to lag a little being 'The Bachelorette' is it's slot. Sunday nights have become brutal anyway (primarily because of HBO and AMC).
DVD/BluRay sales will likely be the key indicator as to whether or not they want to give it another go.


Maybe if enough farkers buy it we can see another season

well I'm signing off, work day tomorrow. Thanks again chicken_little for the TF, sure hope I don't get fired because of it :D :p
 
2014-06-08 10:32:17 PM  
If we're EVER going to leave this world and settle other planets we have to be a peaceful and united planet. Whining about how meaningless our political struggles are does not get us to that goal. The struggle against Communisim, present day struggles against Islamic fundies, is NOT meaningless or petty. It's key to our survival as a species that can travel space. I'm a little tired of Scientists that seem to hold themselves "above the fray" and talk down to the rest, braying "behave, you all!!"
 
2014-06-08 10:32:38 PM  

Pariah.: mark12A: Sorry kids, not feeling it. It's lovely plea, "Can't we all just get along?" "it's the only home we got..etc."

But it's just a lament. The Scienticians love to whine about the inhumanity of man, but don't seem to have any ideas on how to resolve the struggle of freedom against tyranny. Bleeding for freedom is just so icky....

That the best you've got? Pitiful.


Yea, we should all feel blessed by his wisdom and insight throughout the series.
 
2014-06-08 10:32:44 PM  
Adolf

Thanks for being in these threads.  We seem to have one mind at times.
 
2014-06-08 10:34:05 PM  

geom_00: Adolf

Thanks for being in these threads.  We seem to have one mind at times.


We do, don't we? It's been fun.
 
2014-06-08 10:35:35 PM  
Well folks, it's been real. Don't forget the badge!

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-08 10:36:45 PM  

dugitman: I am the tyranny of evil men.

/what's that get me?


That depends. Are you tryin' REEEEAL hard to be the shepherd?
 
2014-06-08 10:37:19 PM  

mark12A: The struggle against Communisim, present day struggles against Islamic fundies, is NOT meaningless or petty.


A lot of the research that goes into space exploration was done by Soviet scientists. Indeed the inability of them to communicate freely with American and other scientists greatly hampered space exploration, it still hampers it. So, yeah, we'd have been a lot better off just learning to get along than blowing tons of money on posturing, goes for us, goes for them.
 
2014-06-08 10:38:07 PM  

ox45tallboy: dugitman: I am the tyranny of evil men.

/what's that get me?

That depends. Are you tryin' REEEEAL hard to be the shepherd?


Always, honey bunny.
Always
 
2014-06-08 10:39:53 PM  
Thank you for the TotalFark - dugitman !

I hope we get to do this again with a new Cosmos series.
 
2014-06-08 10:40:39 PM  

BeerBear: final episode :( now what show we going use going to use to drink?


Through the Wormhole staring God
 
2014-06-08 10:40:41 PM  
The last episode should have been the First. Last week the whole show was about Global Warming. Then I remembered I got PO'd at the Original for Sagan harping about Nuclear Winter back then. Just came for the Science but they Had to stick Politics into it both times. Still the most bothersome were the crappy cartoons. Weren't any Cartoons in the Original. Did they balloon the Budget that bad they had to go that direction or was that all because of Seth? I still have the Original series saved on a hard drive but I've already Deleted all of these. I liked the 1st season of "How the Universe works" narrated by Mike Rowe much better. I bought that DVD set. I had Higher expectations for this "Reboot".
 
2014-06-08 10:42:45 PM  

Pariah.: What do you think, guys?

[i.imgur.com image 370x380]


I like it.!

And thanks again to dugitman.
 
2014-06-08 10:42:55 PM  
I think the sad thing is, we need more shows like this, but on prime time.

There's a ton of good science shows, but they are either not on during prime time, or are on channels that not a lot of people bother to watch.
 
2014-06-08 10:47:24 PM  

Lapdance: Still the most bothersome were the crappy cartoons. Weren't any Cartoons in the Original.


Evolution in 40 seconds
 
2014-06-08 10:48:14 PM  

cosmiquemuffin: cameroncrazy1984: Can you imagine being able to go back in time to the Alexandrian library?

OMG that is my favorite fantasy of all time. Seriously, no snark.


In the card game Chrononauts, it's a mission objective.
 
2014-06-08 10:49:34 PM  

Sim Tree: In the card game Chrononauts, it's a mission objective.


Chrononauts is awesome.

/save the Hindenberg
 
2014-06-08 10:50:14 PM  

Lapdance: The last episode should have been the First. Last week the whole show was about Global Warming. Then I remembered I got PO'd at the Original for Sagan harping about Nuclear Winter back then. Just came for the Science but they Had to stick Politics into it both times


Science can't ignore politics. Politics ignoring science is one of the primary reasons the world and it's people are currently hurtling down two or three parallel paths to it's destruction. If science goes on it's merry way ignoring politics, one day the scientists will wake up to nuclear war, global climate destruction, world-wide epidemics, crippling overpopulation, or one of a dozen other genuine threats. And by then all of their science will be worthless.
 
2014-06-08 11:00:57 PM  
Hey dugitman, many thanks for the TF subscription! I drink to you.
 
2014-06-08 11:08:32 PM  

Lapdance: The last episode should have been the First. Last week the whole show was about Global Warming. Then I remembered I got PO'd at the Original for Sagan harping about Nuclear Winter back then. Just came for the Science but they Had to stick Politics into it both times.


Politicians use and mis-use science (and engage in psuedoscience and anti-science) to wield great influence over national and international policy, much of it to the detriment not only of humankind but all of life on Earth.  It is important to tackle these topics head-on with solid science, and both are warnings well-heeded.
 
2014-06-08 11:11:51 PM  

Pariah.: Lapdance: The last episode should have been the First. Last week the whole show was about Global Warming. Then I remembered I got PO'd at the Original for Sagan harping about Nuclear Winter back then. Just came for the Science but they Had to stick Politics into it both times

Science can't ignore politics. Politics ignoring science is one of the primary reasons the world and it's people are currently hurtling down two or three parallel paths to it's destruction. If science goes on it's merry way ignoring politics, one day the scientists will wake up to nuclear war, global climate destruction, world-wide epidemics, crippling overpopulation, or one of a dozen other genuine threats. And by then all of their science will be worthless.


Couple that with the fact that so many of our scientists were in the employ of the government throughout the 70's and 80's, but not so much for things that would help society at large.  Many of them were dealing with the manufacture of weaponry and newer ways to kill our enemies.  Yes, many things did come about through the sciences they were dealing with, but they were only a byproduct.
 
2014-06-08 11:39:52 PM  
Will catch it on the DVR, sounds like it was great.
 
2014-06-09 12:18:44 AM  
(watching a rerun)

He's talking strangely. Canned speech. It's not bad but just unnatural, he can make it up off the cuff and do just fine, and sound like a human.
 
2014-06-09 12:23:07 AM  

The Bestest: Sim Tree: In the card game Chrononauts, it's a mission objective.

Chrononauts is awesome.

/save the Hindenberg


I love that card in particular; it's suggesting that, if time travel is possible, then we, ourselves are assuredly living in an alternate timeline. It's well thought out.
 
2014-06-09 12:25:23 AM  
An apt time for a reboot of the James Burke "Connections"  show, don't you think? It has been a favorite since the late '70s when it first aired.
 
2014-06-09 12:25:47 AM  
No, "dark matter" and "dark energy" is just NdGT claiming the biggest/most powerful things in cosmology for the black man.
 
2014-06-09 12:49:36 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Neil deGrasse Tyson @neiltyson 28m
Between scenes on #Cosmos. Hadrian'sVilla. Surely the cover art for my nonexistent album of love songs pic.twitter.com/e2CkPiUrzD

[pbs.twimg.com image 600x447]


Don't want to alarm anyone but pretty sure that's a weeping angel on the other side of the pillar he's leaning on.
 
2014-06-09 01:19:42 AM  
Really enjoyed the show, even if it did blow my mind at times and make me feel insignificant.  Thanks Chicken_little for the TF as well.
 
2014-06-09 01:25:41 AM  
I couldn't sponsor everyone, but I thought that more Cosmos fans should see the Cosmos TF logo while it was still there. And I want to thank Crypticsatellite, who posts Science Channel discussion threads every week and has been since back when they played Cosmos reruns on Tuesday nights. He's a hell of a satellite.
 
2014-06-09 01:28:56 AM  
Just finished out here on the west coast, tears in my eyes. I wish Fark was able to play these threads out in the same time based on your timezone. Or maybe have an Eastern Time/Central Time/Mountain Time/Pacific Time thread set. I would have liked to share all this will you in real time. But I feel as I have been able to in a small way.
 
2014-06-09 01:30:38 AM  
Haven't been able to watch--no TV--but had them recorded.  Will sit down and watch in one go, I suspect.
 
2014-06-09 01:38:48 AM  
I'm going to miss those Samsung Galaxy Tab commercials with visual effects supervisor Rainer Gambos and his coworker with the HUGE RACK.

Wish I knew who she was...my Google-Fu comes up with Natasha Anne Francis, but no luck otherwise. Can't even find the commercial on YouTube!
 
2014-06-09 01:46:12 AM  
I've been following the series with rapt attention. Wonderful series. I hope it opened a few eyes.
 
2014-06-09 01:47:13 AM  
Angelcatkthx:
Don't want to alarm anyone but pretty sure that's a weeping angel on the other side of the pillar he's leaning on.

So, should I burn my computer now?
 
2014-06-09 02:03:36 AM  
Cosmos BLOWS.  It is not science, it is cargo-cult science as religion.  Tyson even dresses a priest.

Don't agree with this? Then you may not even know what science really is!  Scientific American, New scientist, Bill Nye, Nova, whatever, this is all pop-science, but pop-science is not science.

I took an image of the first match google gave me for 'quatum physics homework'.  This is what it looks like:
i.imgur.com
All that jibjab and special effects in these programs and magazine are bunkum for people who haven't a clue.
 
2014-06-09 02:20:26 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: Then you may not even know what science really is!


Sooooo by your definition only true science=  Integral Calculus?
hummmm... don't really agree with ya there sparky
 
2014-06-09 02:39:25 AM  
This not a definition, it is an example.  Specifically an example of how different actual science is from media portrayal.  This math cannot be translated into English; you might as well translate into dog barks.  That is to say, the level of science you get from Cosmos is the same level of science your dog gets from Cosmos.  That is, none.  You might both be sold on a new brand of dog food though.
What Cosmos in particular does do is political proselytizing.  It does it the same way preachers sell their religion; with interesting stories about long dead mean and proclamations about the one absolute truth.
 
2014-06-09 02:44:50 AM  
Thanks to chicken_little for being so generous!

I am sad to see the end of Cosmos. NDT did a great job continuing in Carl Sagan's footsteps. I am also glad to see that Fox took a chance and was able to put this in a prime time slot. It seems like the era of educational TV, where you ask questions, or learn something has faded. And sure, while there may 200+ channels, the big networks (FOX,CBS,ABC,NBC) still drive a lot of eyeballs.

I hope this series made kids watch in amazement. Even as a grown man who knows most of what was presented, I still learned things. I just love to learn in general. How can you not look at space everyday and not be amazed? How can you not be on this planet, and wonder how lucky you are to be here? It's those type of questions that make life worth it.
 
2014-06-09 02:57:09 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: This not a definition, it is an example.  Specifically an example of how different actual science is from media portrayal.  This math cannot be translated into English; you might as well translate into dog barks.  That is to say, the level of science you get from Cosmos is the same level of science your dog gets from Cosmos.  That is, none.  You might both be sold on a new brand of dog food though.
What Cosmos in particular does do is political proselytizing.  It does it the same way preachers sell their religion; with interesting stories about long dead mean and proclamations about the one absolute truth.


Let me help you out here a little:

Steps of the Scientific Method:
Ask a Question
Do Background Research
Construct a Hypothesis
Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
Communicate Your Results

 ______________________
See step one?
See the last step?
That is what Cosmos was doing.
Getting present-day people to internally ask questions about things they might not know
AND show results of questions asked by people who came before them.
 
2014-06-09 02:58:27 AM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-06-09 03:52:59 AM  
mr lawson: ...AND show results of questions ...

To be clear, the image I posted is of the answers from physics homework.
 
2014-06-09 04:36:32 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: This math cannot be translated into English; you might as well translate into dog barks.


The fancy <blah|blah> notation is just short-hand for a set of common calculations you do in quantum mechanics. You can translate this into typical integral calculus notation (as is done above!) which can of course be translated into English.

The math is not the interesting part, anyway. The math is a means to an end--namely, some question has been asked, and a machine (the arithmetic) gives you the answer. The science is in whether the output of the machine matches reality (and if it doesn't, trying to find adjustments to the machine such that it does).

Not every physicist knows enough about the inner-workings of the machine to go tinkering around with its workings, but they're still being scientists when they ask it questions and test them against reality.

1) We presumably have some particle whose position and momentum are described by a wave-function that the author has called 'psi'.

b) If you were to measure its location in space along the x-axis, on average you would get 0. Its average momentum would be hbar*k.

c) 68-ish% of the time, you will get between -sigma/sqrt(2) and sigma/sqrt(2) for your measurements of the position, and between (hb*k -hb/(sqrt(2)*sigma)) and (hb*k + hb/(sqrt(2)*sigma)) for your measurement of the momentum.

hbar, k, and sigma just represent numbers. Do not be afraid.

d) You expect to find its position, along the x axis, to be >0 50% of the time and <0 50% of the time.

2a) This is just book-keeping that's useful to make other calculations easier, probably to be used in the later parts of the problem. It doesn't really say anything terribly interesting on its own.
 
2014-06-09 05:03:13 AM  

mark12A: In a few hundred years there will be a big fight, when we have the capability to overtake and retrieve the Voyagers, as to whether we should just grab them and put them in a museum...


We should, if only because we don't want the whole Universe discovering what colossal dorks we used to be.

There is some truly embarrassing dreck on those gold records. Remember: They were made in the 70s.
 
2014-06-09 08:12:35 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: This not a definition, it is an example.  Specifically an example of how different actual science is from media portrayal.  This math cannot be translated into English; you might as well translate into dog barks.  That is to say, the level of science you get from Cosmos is the same level of science your dog gets from Cosmos.  That is, none.  You might both be sold on a new brand of dog food though.
What Cosmos in particular does do is political proselytizing.  It does it the same way preachers sell their religion; with interesting stories about long dead mean and proclamations about the one absolute truth.


So, basically, you're using the same argument that Harvard used against Carl Sagan when he was denied tenure.  That he was trying to bring science to the masses by making it more accessible instead of doing hard research.

And you are wrong.  It's better to have scientists that try to explain things like the scientific method in simple terms that anyone can understand.   Sagan himself thought that the more that science is accessible by the general public (the explanations of why and how things work), the better off society was at large.  Science is no more a 'religion' than I am a flatworm.
 
2014-06-09 08:13:19 AM  

Dangl1ng: Just finished out here on the west coast, tears in my eyes. I wish Fark was able to play these threads out in the same time based on your timezone. Or maybe have an Eastern Time/Central Time/Mountain Time/Pacific Time thread set. I would have liked to share all this will you in real time. But I feel as I have been able to in a small way.


Thank you for this gift. I will wield it wisely.
 
2014-06-09 08:24:28 AM  

Ex-Texan: An apt time for a reboot of the James Burke "Connections"  show, don't you think? It has been a favorite since the late '70s when it first aired.


YES!  I loved Connections when I was a kid.

And I just watched this final episode of Cosmos.  I was... not unmoved.  OK, fine.  Pale Blue Dot got me good, and I went a little weepy.  My time zone has prevented my from watching in real-time with the threads, but I have really enjoyed reading along after I watch the episode.  Thanks, farkers.
 
2014-06-09 09:47:17 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: Cosmos BLOWS.  It is not science, it is cargo-cult science as religion.  Tyson even dresses a priest.

Don't agree with this? Then you may not even know what science really is!  Scientific American, New scientist, Bill Nye, Nova, whatever, this is all pop-science, but pop-science is not science.

I took an image of the first match google gave me for 'quatum physics homework'.  This is what it looks like:

All that jibjab and special effects in these programs and magazine are bunkum for people who haven't a clue.


Derp Derp Derp

Go away.
 
2014-06-09 10:05:22 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: Cosmos BLOWS.  It is not science, it is cargo-cult science as religion.  Tyson even dresses a priest.

Don't agree with this? Then you may not even know what science really is!  Scientific American, New scientist, Bill Nye, Nova, whatever, this is all pop-science, but pop-science is not science.

I took an image of the first match google gave me for 'quatum physics homework'.  This is what it looks like:
[i.imgur.com image 705x817]
All that jibjab and special effects in these programs and magazine are bunkum for people who haven't a clue.


So what you're actually saying is you have no clue what the hell you're talking about?  You did an image search and came up with a page out of a quantum mechanics text book.  Congrats.

I've got a physics degree.  Bachelors, so nothing too special.  And I can tell you this, as someone who's gone through a similar text book and mastered its content - shows like Cosmos are absolutely science.  Yes, it's the survey course.  No, you're not required to be able to solve the time dependent Schrodinger equation for a particle in a infinite potential well to understand the basics at a conversational level.

What you're calling "pop science" is the gateway to actually getting people to think scientifically, and let go of prejudice, superstitious thinking, and start making decisions that help us as an ecosystem, not a race or a social class.  And it's absolutely science.
 
2014-06-09 11:01:45 AM  

timharrod: trekkiecougar: The thought of the Voyager probes gives me chills. It's fascinating to imagine some being examining them after we're long gone. I have the greatest respect for the folks who designed and cconstructed them.

"Murmurs of Earth: The Voyager Interstellar Record" (Sagan) is the book to hunt down.

http://goldenrecord.org/ is cool in the meantime.


Wow, that is one annoying website.
 
2014-06-09 11:02:00 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: Cosmos BLOWS.  It is not science, it is cargo-cult science as religion.  Tyson even dresses a priest.

Don't agree with this? Then you may not even know what science really is!  Scientific American, New scientist, Bill Nye, Nova, whatever, this is all pop-science, but pop-science is not science.

I took an image of the first match google gave me for 'quatum physics homework'.  This is what it looks like:
[i.imgur.com image 705x817]
All that jibjab and special effects in these programs and magazine are bunkum for people who haven't a clue.


Who crapped in your Cheerios?
 
2014-06-09 11:07:48 AM  

Boloxor the Insipid: Cosmos BLOWS.  It is not science, it is cargo-cult science as religion.  Tyson even dresses a priest.

Don't agree with this? Then you may not even know what science really is!  Scientific American, New scientist, Bill Nye, Nova, whatever, this is all pop-science, but pop-science is not science.
...
All that jibjab and special effects in these programs and magazine are bunkum for people who haven't a clue.


Thanks for the input, Dr. Cooper.  I'm sure the show you've produced is much more interesting and informative.  Please share it with us.

And Bill Nye?  Seriously?  Not that I agree that popularizing science is cargo-cult-science-as-religion, but Bill Nye is pretty much the definition of that.  Tyson may not be as eloquent as Sagan, but his heart is in the same place.  Bill Nye is Mr. Wizard The Next Generation.

And of course these programs are for people who haven't a clue.  They're designed to give them a clue.  Inspire someone to look closer, and who knows where they'll go, or where they'll take all of us.
 
2014-06-09 11:16:43 AM  

rosekolodny: And I just watched this final episode of Cosmos.  I was... not unmoved.  OK, fine.  Pale Blue Dot got me good, and I went a little weepy.  My time zone has prevented my from watching in real-time with the threads, but I have really enjoyed reading along after I watch the episode.  Thanks, farkers.


I watched this morning also, due to time zone/lack of cable.  Great stuff.  I'm surprised that no one here has commented on the empty chair in the ship of the imagination at the end.  It's like Neil saying, "Ok, I'm done here.  Who's next?"
 
2014-06-09 01:58:05 PM  

DoctorWhat: rosekolodny: And I just watched this final episode of Cosmos.  I was... not unmoved.  OK, fine.  Pale Blue Dot got me good, and I went a little weepy.  My time zone has prevented my from watching in real-time with the threads, but I have really enjoyed reading along after I watch the episode.  Thanks, farkers.

I watched this morning also, due to time zone/lack of cable.  Great stuff.  I'm surprised that no one here has commented on the empty chair in the ship of the imagination at the end.  It's like Neil saying, "Ok, I'm done here.  Who's next?"


I was thinking that this morning. A "passing of the ship" if you will.
 
2014-06-09 02:03:45 PM  

geom_00: DoctorWhat: rosekolodny: And I just watched this final episode of Cosmos.  I was... not unmoved.  OK, fine.  Pale Blue Dot got me good, and I went a little weepy.  My time zone has prevented my from watching in real-time with the threads, but I have really enjoyed reading along after I watch the episode.  Thanks, farkers.

I watched this morning also, due to time zone/lack of cable.  Great stuff.  I'm surprised that no one here has commented on the empty chair in the ship of the imagination at the end.  It's like Neil saying, "Ok, I'm done here.  Who's next?"

I was thinking that this morning. A "passing of the ship" if you will.


I was thinking "looks like they forgot to CGI in Neil and probably said shows over who cares"
 
2014-06-09 03:21:54 PM  
I saw "Pale Blue Dot" twice yesterday.  The first time, I wasn't even thinking about the show later that night.  As I watched the episode, I was like "yes, this is what I've been waiting for.  Then they started the part about Voyager and finished with "The Pale Blue Dot".  I was in shambles, tears flowing freely.  I'm sorry I didn't participate in the thread last night, I can't fark and watch tv at the same time I don't have the set up for it.  I did see that somebody mentioned amazon having pre-orders for the dvds and I said I wanted to get them last night.  I just ordered them now.

I haven't been this interested in a TV show in years, I didn't miss an episode but one (attending to some family emergency) but I caught it the next day online.  I hope my purchase will be but a small voice in a loud message to the producers.  "We want more Science."
 
2014-06-09 03:55:57 PM  
All in all, I found it to be an enjoyable series, but not re-watchable. Needed more Tyson talking to you, less CGI/voiceovers. Animated segments added no useful information. Music was utterly banal. It didn't really do anything to make it stand out from any other CGI/voiceover science doc. It basically felt like a glorified Nova ScienceNOW series.

I still re-watch the original Cosmos on occasion.
 
2014-06-09 04:17:29 PM  

RaiderFanMikeP: geom_00: DoctorWhat: rosekolodny: And I just watched this final episode of Cosmos.  I was... not unmoved.  OK, fine.  Pale Blue Dot got me good, and I went a little weepy.  My time zone has prevented my from watching in real-time with the threads, but I have really enjoyed reading along after I watch the episode.  Thanks, farkers.

I watched this morning also, due to time zone/lack of cable.  Great stuff.  I'm surprised that no one here has commented on the empty chair in the ship of the imagination at the end.  It's like Neil saying, "Ok, I'm done here.  Who's next?"

I was thinking that this morning. A "passing of the ship" if you will.

I was thinking "looks like they forgot to CGI in Neil and probably said shows over who cares"


He's passing the ship onto the viewers.
 
2014-06-09 04:18:08 PM  

Great_Milenko: And of course these programs are for people who haven't a clue.  They're designed to give them a clue.  Inspire someone to look closer, and who knows where they'll go, or where they'll take all of us.


Hell, that that insularity and elitism within the scientific community is, at least, a self-destructive endeavor, were the bookends to last night's episode. Tyson's point about the Library of Alexandria was as big an F-U to individuals like those to whom you responded, as those towards young earthers, creationists, and climate change deniers.
 
2014-06-09 04:56:39 PM  

Ex-Texan: An apt time for a reboot of the James Burke "Connections"  show, don't you think? It has been a favorite since the late '70s when it first aired.


"Connections" is one of those shows I look back on and think, "this is what helped make me who I am today." Totally changed the way I look at things.
 
2014-06-09 05:07:55 PM  

geom_00: DoctorWhat: rosekolodny: And I just watched this final episode of Cosmos.  I was... not unmoved.  OK, fine.  Pale Blue Dot got me good, and I went a little weepy.  My time zone has prevented my from watching in real-time with the threads, but I have really enjoyed reading along after I watch the episode.  Thanks, farkers.

I watched this morning also, due to time zone/lack of cable.  Great stuff.  I'm surprised that no one here has commented on the empty chair in the ship of the imagination at the end.  It's like Neil saying, "Ok, I'm done here.  Who's next?"

I was thinking that this morning. A "passing of the ship" if you will.


The original ended that way, too.
 
2014-06-09 05:55:21 PM  

GypsyJoker: geom_00: DoctorWhat: rosekolodny: And I just watched this final episode of Cosmos.  I was... not unmoved.  OK, fine.  Pale Blue Dot got me good, and I went a little weepy.  My time zone has prevented my from watching in real-time with the threads, but I have really enjoyed reading along after I watch the episode.  Thanks, farkers.

I watched this morning also, due to time zone/lack of cable.  Great stuff.  I'm surprised that no one here has commented on the empty chair in the ship of the imagination at the end.  It's like Neil saying, "Ok, I'm done here.  Who's next?"

I was thinking that this morning. A "passing of the ship" if you will.

The original ended that way, too.


http://youtu.be/T6C9taivF40?t=53m53s

Case in point.
 
2014-06-09 07:00:25 PM  

aedude01: Boloxor the Insipid: Cosmos BLOWS.  It is not science, it is cargo-cult science as religion.  Tyson even dresses a priest.

Don't agree with this? Then you may not even know what science really is!  Scientific American, New scientist, Bill Nye, Nova, whatever, this is all pop-science, but pop-science is not science.

I took an image of the first match google gave me for 'quatum physics homework'.  This is what it looks like:
[i.imgur.com image 705x817]
All that jibjab and special effects in these programs and magazine are bunkum for people who haven't a clue.

Who crapped in your Cheerios?



I volunteer
 
2014-06-09 07:11:21 PM  
I have not commented much as I have been busy on Sunday nights, but I have read each thread as I watched, then re-watched every episode.

Thank you for your comments, insights, observations and feelings.

It was very dusty in here at the end.

/This series should be an entire class in every child's education, both the original, and this version. To show what we know, what we thought we knew, and how we learned the difference.
 
2014-06-09 07:45:42 PM  

timharrod: trekkiecougar: The thought of the Voyager probes gives me chills. It's fascinating to imagine some being examining them after we're long gone. I have the greatest respect for the folks who designed and cconstructed them.

"Murmurs of Earth: The Voyager Interstellar Record" (Sagan) is the book to hunt down.

http://goldenrecord.org/ is cool in the meantime.


Cool, thanks for sharing the link.  As a record collector and dj, that would be the ultimate record to acquire (and share).
 
2014-06-09 08:12:03 PM  

chicken_little: I couldn't sponsor everyone, but I thought that more Cosmos fans should see the Cosmos TF logo while it was still there. And I want to thank Crypticsatellite, who posts Science Channel discussion threads every week and has been since back when they played Cosmos reruns on Tuesday nights. He's a hell of a satellite.


Yea!  A super satellite!
 
2014-06-09 08:17:27 PM  

chicken_little: I couldn't sponsor everyone, but I thought that more Cosmos fans should see the Cosmos TF logo while it was still there. And I want to thank Crypticsatellite, who posts Science Channel discussion threads every week and has been since back when they played Cosmos reruns on Tuesday nights. He's a hell of a satellite.


And a Super Chicken!!!!   Qu'est-ce que c'est?

uh huh uh huh uh huh
 
2014-06-09 08:31:33 PM  
Watching it now, got to the scurvy atheist dweeb.  You don't have to be an atheist to be a scientist.  It seems rather sad to have no one to thank for your discoveries besides your beautiful (gag) self.
 
2014-06-09 08:45:01 PM  
Thank you Neil deGrasse Tyson !  Thanks Ann Druyan, and all that made this show possible.
 
2014-06-09 08:57:20 PM  

IronTom: Watching it now, got to the scurvy atheist dweeb.  You don't have to be an atheist to be a scientist.  It seems rather sad to have no one to thank for your discoveries besides your beautiful (gag) self.


Guessed you missed the bit where he (and others) constantly thank those that helped them pave the way for scientists for generations to come... but you see what you want to see. And isn't that just the core of the problem.
 
2014-06-09 09:26:02 PM  

Shadow Blasko: IronTom: Watching it now, got to the scurvy atheist dweeb.  You don't have to be an atheist to be a scientist.  It seems rather sad to have no one to thank for your discoveries besides your beautiful (gag) self.

Guessed you missed the bit where he (and others) constantly thank those that helped them pave the way for scientists for generations to come... but you see what you want to see. And isn't that just the core of the problem.


what are you on about then?  I was talking about Ron Reagan, not NdT.  NdT is cool.
 
2014-06-09 11:06:28 PM  
Reboot "The Ring Of Truth" next, please.
 
2014-06-09 11:38:53 PM  
I'm sorry that I wasn't able to participate in this thread live.  This new cosmos has been a worthy successor to the original.

And, yes, Pale Blue Dot never fails to release a lot of dust into the air in my near vicinity, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
 
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