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2014-06-08 03:21:48 PM
Does Solar Activity Influence Earth's Global Warming?


Clearly, you are on to something here, as no scientist ever thought to examine the role of the sun in the effects on Earth's temperatures.
 
2014-06-08 03:57:42 PM
It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that you have discovered something incredibly simple and obvious... that every climate scientist on Earth has overlooked.
 
2014-06-08 03:59:22 PM
The day was 22 hours long during the Jurassic and the moon was 50% closer

you can't explain that.

Checkmate libulardos
 
2014-06-08 04:00:39 PM
I'm being told that those phenomenon are easily explainable because someone looked up at the sky and did some math.

That and tfa is retarded.
 
2014-06-08 04:01:56 PM

czetie: It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that you have discovered something incredibly simple and obvious... that every climate scientist on Earth has overlooked.


Like how Cretinists say something like "I can't imagine how a kangaroo can give birth to a fish, so you Evilutionists must be whanged in the head"...
 
2014-06-08 04:02:24 PM
Another denialist piece.

NASA Link:
What is the role of the sun and solar cycles in climate change and global warming?

Since 1750, the average amount of energy coming from the sun either remained constant or increased slightly.stimates of the amount of energy the sun has sent to Earth are based on sunspot records dating back more than two centuries, and other proxy indicators, such as the amount of carbon in tree rings.

More recently, satellite observation of solar activity from space suggest a slight increase in solar activity, but the change can't account for more than 10 percent of the warming trend seen during the past century.
 
2014-06-08 04:04:02 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: The day was 22 hours long during the Jurassic and the moon was 50% closer

you can't explain that.

Checkmate libulardos


and without light cues our internal clock is a 25 hour day. You can't explain that!
 
2014-06-08 04:05:57 PM
It is also my understanding that with six you get eggroll.
 
2014-06-08 04:07:18 PM
Nope.  Global warming has nothing to do with the record levels of CO2 and methane being pumped into our atmosphere.  Greenhouse gases go up and vanish because Jesus.  Has to be the sun.

Gotdamned our country is scientifically ignorant.
 
2014-06-08 04:08:41 PM
I trust China. They have the cleanest environmental record in the world.
 
2014-06-08 04:09:00 PM
Without the sun, the earth would be a lot colder.  Therefore, carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas.
 
2014-06-08 04:09:30 PM
Can't wait for all the deniers to latch on to this.

Denier logic: "All scientists are grubby liars and thieves ... except these Chinese ones who say what we like. Their science is solid. Everyone must accept their science as true but continue to consider all the other scientists in the world to be grubby liars and thieves."
 
2014-06-08 04:11:52 PM
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Mr. President, science would like to have a word with you. If the honorable Nobel Peace Prize winner can stop killing people in drone strikes long enough to chat. Thanks.
~ Science
 
2014-06-08 04:15:19 PM

Farking Canuck: Can't wait for all the deniers to latch on to this.

Denier logic: "All scientists are grubby liars and thieves ... except these Chinese ones who say what we like. Their science is solid. Everyone must accept their science as true but continue to consider all the other scientists in the world to be grubby liars and thieves."


tekmonkey: [img.fark.net image 620x412]

Mr. President, science would like to have a word with you. If the honorable Nobel Peace Prize winner can stop killing people in drone strikes long enough to chat. Thanks.
~ Science


That took an entire 2 minutes.
 
2014-06-08 04:16:09 PM

IntertubeUser: Nope.  Global warming has nothing to do with the record levels of CO2 and methane being pumped into our atmosphere.  Greenhouse gases go up and vanish because Jesus.  Has to be the sun.

Gotdamned our country is scientifically ignorant.


FTA: published in CHINESE SCIENCE BULLETIN (In Chinese) 2014 No.14 with the co-corresponding authors of Dr. Zhao Xinhua and Dr. Feng Xueshang from State key laboratory of space weather, CSSAR/NSSC, Chinese Academy of Sciences.

So you're from China?
 
2014-06-08 04:17:04 PM
NDGT mentioned on last week's Cosmos that there has been no extraordinary activity causing the sun to be warmer, and it is not implicated in our climate change.

There is no debate. It's over, and the denialists have lost. Put away your engineers, weather forecasters, dentists and Pat Sajak.
 
2014-06-08 04:17:22 PM
You global warming alarmists are stupid! There isn't any, we're headed into a little ice age!

You global warming alarmists are stupid! It's happening, but it's because of the sun!

You global warming alarmists are stupid! It's happening, but we don't know why!

You global warming alarmists are stupid! It's happening, and it's our fault, but there's nothing we can do about it now so just enjoy your new beachfront property!

Protip: if you're going to lie about something as basic as reading a thermometer, maybe you eggheads ought to get together early on and pick WHICH lie you're going to run with...
 
2014-06-08 04:18:07 PM
Funny that for a day of posting links celebrating science because of the last episode of Cosmos a Spacetime Odyssey, we get pseudoscience that was debunked in the last episode. TL;DWatch version: we've been monitoring the sun for a while now and it hasn't done anything especially hotter in the time that Earth has been warming, and meanwhile the Earth has been getting warmer at night and during the winter, even though there's less sun, but as totally expected if CO2 is the culprit, which it is.

Or maybe the intent of posting the link was to mash rebuttal buttons. In which case, touché.
 
2014-06-08 04:20:28 PM
I do love the "The Debate is Over" crowd. They are just as ignorant as the blatant denier crowd.
 
2014-06-08 04:20:38 PM

IntertubeUser: Nope.  Global warming has nothing to do with the record levels of CO2 and methane being pumped into our atmosphere.  Greenhouse gases go up and vanish because Jesus.  Has to be the sun.

Gotdamned our country is scientifically ignorant.


Awww USA you ain't that bad. this study was the made up by the filthy chinese communists.
 
2014-06-08 04:22:05 PM

AMonkey'sUncle: NDGT mentioned on last week's Cosmos that there has been no extraordinary activity causing the sun to be warmer, and it is not implicated in our climate change.

There is no debate. It's over, and the denialists have lost. Put away your engineers, weather forecasters, dentists and Pat Sajak.


And that^ (should refresh before posting)
 
2014-06-08 04:23:55 PM

AMonkey'sUncle: NDGT mentioned on last week's Cosmos that there has been no extraordinary activity causing the sun to be warmer, and it is not implicated in our climate change.

There is no debate. It's over, and the denialists have lost. Put away your engineers, weather forecasters, dentists and Pat Sajak.


I was referring to our idiots who've been spewing the same derpy bullshiat
 
2014-06-08 04:24:34 PM

Savage Belief: I do love the "The Debate is Over" crowd. They are just as ignorant as the blatant denier crowd.


the "debate" has always come to the same conclusion since i was in elementary school in the early 90's. It isn't much of a debate now.. its more like a handful of stragglers beating the dead horse hoping for a different outcome.
 
2014-06-08 04:27:26 PM
Their government probably told them to come to this conclusion or they'd be shot.
 
2014-06-08 04:28:56 PM

SumoJeb: Savage Belief: I do love the "The Debate is Over" crowd. They are just as ignorant as the blatant denier crowd.

the "debate" has always come to the same conclusion since i was in elementary school in the early 90's. It isn't much of a debate now.. its more like a handful of stragglers beating the dead horse hoping for a different outcome.


"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results."
-RAND PAUL
 
2014-06-08 04:30:02 PM

czetie: It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that you have discovered something incredibly simple and obvious... that every climate scientist on Earth has overlooked.


That every scientist can't profit from by offering their solution, warming has been proven to be around before man so saying man is the sole cause seems idiotic.
 
2014-06-08 04:30:52 PM

skozlaw: You global warming alarmists are stupid! There isn't any, we're headed into a little ice age!

You global warming alarmists are stupid! It's happening, but it's because of the sun!

You global warming alarmists are stupid! It's happening, but we don't know why!

You global warming alarmists are stupid! It's happening, and it's our fault, but there's nothing we can do about it now so just enjoy your new beachfront property!

Protip: if you're going to lie about something as basic as reading a thermometer, maybe you eggheads ought to get together early on and pick WHICH lie you're going to run with...


The that I like for that is kettle logic.
 
2014-06-08 04:31:48 PM
There's always warming when coming out of an ice age. Humans weren't even around last time that happenex.


/difference between an ice age and a glacial period
 
2014-06-08 04:32:43 PM

Savage Belief: I do love the "The Debate is Over" crowd. They are just as ignorant as the blatant denier crowd.


What I find amazing is people accept that yet ignore earth core samples that have shown the same variations in temperatures going back years before man was known to exist.

Clearly this is the result of time travelers going back in time to plant evidence for deniers so they can keep being evil.
 
2014-06-08 04:33:01 PM

generallyso: Another denialist piece.

NASA Link:
What is the role of the sun and solar cycles in climate change and global warming?

Since 1750, the average amount of energy coming from the sun either remained constant or increased slightly.stimates of the amount of energy the sun has sent to Earth are based on sunspot records dating back more than two centuries, and other proxy indicators, such as the amount of carbon in tree rings.

More recently, satellite observation of solar activity from space suggest a slight increase in solar activity, but the change can't account for more than 10 percent of the warming trend seen during the past century.


I too refuse to believe that Earth's primary source of heat and light radiation could possible affect the amount of heat that hits the Earth.  That's pretty far fetched.  There are all kinds of extremely accurate models, literally more than 0 of them,  that will never be proven to account for too few variables because our understanding of the climate is perfect that says it isn't true.

The sun does not affect Earth's climate.  Your 60 watt incandescent light bulb does.

The science is settled, people.  There's a consensus.
 
2014-06-08 04:36:43 PM

RobertBruce: There's always warming when coming out of an ice age. Humans weren't even around last time that happenex.


/difference between an ice age and a glacial period


Therefore, humans cannot cause warming, at all, ever, for any reason.

/Oh wait
//That's now how science works.

GORDON: I too refuse to believe that Earth's primary source of heat and light radiation could possible affect the amount of heat that hits the Earth


Global warming isn't caused by the amount of heat that HITS the earth; it's caused by the amount that is retained by it.
 
2014-06-08 04:37:10 PM
so... some Chinese scientists say that global warming isn't manmade, but rational people the world over say it is... can we please start building new nuclear reactors?
 
2014-06-08 04:37:27 PM

steamingpile: What I find amazing is people accept that yet ignore earth core samples that have shown the same variations in temperatures going back years before man was known to exist.


Or, you know, not.

/believe whatever you want to believe
//just don't make up science
 
2014-06-08 04:42:18 PM
Global warming is hiding deep in the oceans. When it comes back it's going to be a bigger problem. It's gonna kill everything on the planet! Why do republicans want the planet to die?

/Ammidoinitright?
 
2014-06-08 04:43:27 PM

whither_apophis: without light cues our internal clock is a 25 hour day


Thanks Obama
 
2014-06-08 04:46:18 PM
What kind of theory needs to blame missing heat that's out of our range to measure... But we know it MUST be there because MODELS!

It's models all the way down!
 
2014-06-08 04:46:20 PM
It's scientifically proven that my fart causes global warming. TAKE THAT, ALARMISTS!

/denier
 
2014-06-08 04:46:33 PM
The "Solar Constant" is called that for a reason, namely because up until recently the technology to measure the variation in solar output hasn't existed.  Now that we can measure it with the help of spaceborne instruments we know it is non-zero, but tiny.  This study must have been funded by the Chinese version of the Koch brothers or something because it is crazy talk.
 
2014-06-08 04:51:53 PM

filter: I trust China. They have the cleanest environmental record in the world.


Yeah, they regularly add chlorinated hydrocarbons like Tetrachloroethene to their water to DRYCLEAN it!  Can't beat THAT!
 
2014-06-08 04:52:28 PM

Savage Belief: I do love the "The Debate is Over" crowd. They are just as ignorant as the blatant denier crowd.


Youre an idiot.
 
2014-06-08 04:55:09 PM
I love these threads.  SOOOOO many idiots to flag.

Its hard to tell how many of them are paid by Exxon, or are just stupid.
 
2014-06-08 04:58:45 PM
Just saying... nuclear

To deniers: Why take the chance?  especially when we have a cheaper alternative?

To Proponents: We still need cheap electricity, and nuclear is the only option we have against coal and gas facilities, 800 reactors could power the country, and 800 modern reactors would be safer than the 100 aging reactors we currently have... which we can't shut down because they can either be replaced by new nuclear reactors or about 10 mega coal plants a piece.

Not saying we can't invest in solar, wind, geothermal and hydroelectric at the same time... just, we have a deadline.
 
2014-06-08 05:00:52 PM
Articles like this show up occasionally, but none of them ever addresses two fundamental facts on which AGW theory is based: Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, and it is rapidly accumulating in the atmosphere.

Actually, there's a third fact: Any scientist who can prove that CO2 change does not have a significant effect on climate will earn a trip to Stockholm.
 
2014-06-08 05:06:58 PM
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2014-06-08 05:08:03 PM

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I see you are continuing your flawless streak of being boring, irrelevant, and wrong. Kudos!
 
2014-06-08 05:11:46 PM

steamingpile: czetie: It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that you have discovered something incredibly simple and obvious... that every climate scientist on Earth has overlooked.

That every scientist can't profit from by offering their solution, warming has been proven to be around before man so saying man is the sole cause seems idiotic.


Nobody says that man is the sole cause of climate change. The fact that climate has changed in the past is not relevant.

This is your logic:

Investigator: This fire looks like arson.
You: Forest fires have been happening since long before man existed, it's idiotic to say that man is the sole cause of forest fires.

Can you understand that?
 
2014-06-08 05:12:08 PM

Savage Belief: I do love the "The Debate is Over" crowd. They are just as ignorant as the blatant denier crowd.


nope. They're simply being realistic. The evidence is robust, significant and from many independent sources. The theory is predictive. The consensus is strong. The only deniers are the ones being paid by fossil fuel interests
 
2014-06-08 05:12:14 PM
Don't be silly the global warming on the moon and Mars are caused by the Aliens driving big gas guzzling SUVs
 
2014-06-08 05:15:13 PM
HighZoolander:


Investigator: This fire looks like arson.


You: Forest fires have been happening since long before man existed, it's idiotic to say that man is the sole cause of forest fires.Can you understand that?



Socialist: Time to redistribute wealth and increase the power of party functionaries.
 
2014-06-08 05:17:20 PM

Oldiron_79: Don't be silly the global warming on the moon and Mars are caused by the Aliens driving big gas guzzling SUVs


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