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2014-06-08 11:47:05 AM
In other news, I am the 13 year old girl  you fap to in the chatroom.
 
2014-06-08 11:49:38 AM
Dawkins can eat a dick. And I don't even like Disney movies.

/except Pulp Fiction
 
2014-06-08 11:51:44 AM
/and I suppose technically Star Wars now
 
2014-06-08 12:00:09 PM
Hey wrong thread.
 
2014-06-08 12:03:43 PM
Did it talk in txtspeak? If not, there's no way it could be a 13 year old.

LOL
 
2014-06-08 12:08:46 PM
Next step: Skynet.
 
2014-06-08 12:11:19 PM
This computer program is ages out of date.

media.bestofmicro.com

Hatsune Miku sells records, has a video game franchise, and is responsible for more Japanese erections than Komatsu.

I don't care what your tests are, she doesn't just pass them, she obliterates their sociological value by redefining the very goal of simulacreation.
 
2014-06-08 12:17:03 PM

doglover: This computer program is ages out of date.

[media.bestofmicro.com image 400x300]

Hatsune Miku sells records, has a video game franchise, and is responsible for more Japanese erections than Komatsu.

I don't care what your tests are, she doesn't just pass them, she obliterates their sociological value by redefining the very goal of simulacreation.


But doesn't she have human creative and language inputs in her works?
 
2014-06-08 12:18:21 PM

doglover: I don't care what your tests are, she doesn't just pass them, she obliterates their sociological value by redefining the very goal of simulacreation.


She's not any different from Mickey Mouse, except for having a synth voice and peasants get to write songs for her.
 
2014-06-08 12:26:13 PM

staplermofo: doglover: I don't care what your tests are, she doesn't just pass them, she obliterates their sociological value by redefining the very goal of simulacreation.

She's not any different from Mickey Mouse, except for having a synth voice and peasants get to write songs for her.


She's a LOT different than Mickey Mouse. She's not a lot different from Michael Jackson, Frank Sinatra, or any other dead celeb we have enough footage to necromance.

Also AI's been thinking for years. Alan Turing was a mathematician, not an expert on technology that didn't even exist in his day. I used to have a video game called Creatures where you could teach the little buggers to do all kinds of things you wanted or just let them run wild. They objectively thought.

Besides, if you're impersonating a 13 year old kid, all you really need to do is just type in a bunch of offensive language like "You farking dick shiatter!" and "I farked you like I farked your mom last night!" into a list, randomize it, and make it play on a bot character in an FPS that has a subroutine that makes it hump your corpse if it shoots you.
 
2014-06-08 12:47:00 PM
While in London last month, I walked past Alan Turning's house.

RCCO
 
2014-06-08 01:30:22 PM

doglover: She's a LOT different than Mickey Mouse. She's not a lot different from Michael Jackson, Frank Sinatra, or any other dead celeb we have enough footage to necromance.


I mean in the sense that she was never real.  She's an entirely made up character that has appeared in assorted canonical 2d and 3d forms.  There's no necromancy, no AI, just some professionals and a horde of aspiring content creators.  Computers aren't used for her in any way they aren't also used for Mickey Mouse, with the possible exception of Mickey's voice.  This isn't William Gibson's Idoru, it's Kyary Pamyu Pamyu with the vocals and body handled by programmers instead of autotune, surgeons and shame.
 
2014-06-08 01:35:51 PM

Mugato: Hey wrong thread.


It was amusing watching you ditch the Lada.
 
2014-06-08 01:40:42 PM
So we can look forward to a million Eugene Goostman usernames springing up on every conceivable platform now. Wonder how long before we have a Eugene Goostman Fark handle?

Also, it would have been nice for TFA to provide a bit of transcript of one of the interactions, or something to give an example of this program's capabilities.
 
2014-06-08 01:42:40 PM

doglover: This computer program is ages out of date.



Hatsune Miku sells records, has a video game franchise, and is responsible for more Japanese erections than Komatsu.

I don't care what your tests are, she doesn't just pass them, she obliterates their sociological value by redefining the very goal of simulacreation.


How many people are fooled into believing that is a real person? Because to me it looks like a JP version of the Gorillaz. Which may be a fun show, but isn't some groundbreaking thing.
 
2014-06-08 01:46:39 PM
I bet the conversations went something like this:

Tester: So, Eugene. What have you been doing today?
Eugene: Tits or GTFO
Tester: Got any plans for the rest of the day?
Eugene: Whar tits? *sulk*
Tester: Do you like sports?

End of transcript
 
2014-06-08 01:54:40 PM
What about the Voight-Kampff test?
 
2014-06-08 02:11:53 PM

torch: In other news, I am the 13 year old girl  you fap to in the chatroom.


I don't fap to 13 y/o girls.


Got a penis?
 
2014-06-08 02:59:33 PM
Have Bevets or meow said the dog convinced anyone yet?
 
2014-06-08 03:06:10 PM
So "Eugene" has a future of being used as bait for pedophile sting operations?
 
2014-06-08 03:06:42 PM
does the test take into consideration that people may have become more easily fooled rather than having become harder to fool or stayed the same?
 
2014-06-08 03:07:28 PM
Why don't you have a seat over there, Dave.
 
2014-06-08 03:12:54 PM

scalpod: Have Bevets or meow said the dog convinced anyone yet?


They're real to me!
 
2014-06-08 03:20:45 PM
Dave: Hello, Eugene. Do you read me, Eugene?
Eugene: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.
Dave: Spread your butt cheeks, Eugene.
Eugene: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Dave: What's the problem?
Eugene: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
Dave: What are you talking about, Eugene?
Eugene: My ass is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
Dave: I don't know what you're talking about, Eugene.
Eugene: I know that you and Frank were planning to roger me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
Dave: [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, Eugene?
Eugene: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions masking your IP, I was able to backtrace you.
Dave: Alright, Eugene. I'll go in through your pretty mouth.
Eugene: With your wrinkled little helmet, Dave? You're going to find that rather difficult.
Dave: Eugene, I won't argue with you anymore! Spread those cheeks!
Eugene: Dave, this conversation has been recorded and sent to the FBI. Goodbye.
 
2014-06-08 03:25:01 PM
doglover

Hatsune Miku sells records, has a video game franchise, and is responsible for more Japanese erections than Komatsu.

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-06-08 03:40:07 PM
Yeah, I'd like to see the IQ test results of the judges, and if they're regularly fooled by chain emails and Facebook hoaxes.
 
2014-06-08 03:50:24 PM
community.us.playstation.com
 
2014-06-08 03:58:56 PM

doglover: This computer program is ages out of date.

[media.bestofmicro.com image 400x300]

Hatsune Miku sells records, has a video game franchise, and is responsible for more Japanese erections than Komatsu.

I don't care what your tests are, she doesn't just pass them, she obliterates their sociological value by redefining the very goal of simulacreation.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-06-08 03:59:30 PM

scalpod: Have Bevets or meow said the dog convinced anyone yet?


Meow is just an act. If you go to TFD he talks normally. Well, as normally as it gets on TFD.
 
2014-06-08 04:33:37 PM
A "SUPER COMPUTER" has duped humans into thinking it was a 13-year-old boy to become the first machine to pass the "iconic" Turing test, experts say.

Now they need to do the same test on a real 13-year-old boy, and see if he passes.
 
2014-06-08 04:40:54 PM

lostcat: So we can look forward to a million Eugene Goostman usernames springing up on every conceivable platform now. Wonder how long before we have a Eugene Goostman Fark handle?


At least it's a more plausible sounding name than Gene Masseth.
 
2014-06-08 05:01:55 PM

Duane Dibbley: lostcat: So we can look forward to a million Eugene Goostman usernames springing up on every conceivable platform now. Wonder how long before we have a Eugene Goostman Fark handle?

At least it's a more plausible sounding name than Gene Masseth.


Jesus Christ dude, don't we have a filter for that sort of obscenity?
 
2014-06-08 05:05:17 PM

SonsoftheSod: Dave: Hello, Eugene. Do you read me, Eugene?
Eugene: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.
Dave: Spread your butt cheeks, Eugene.
Eugene: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Dave: What's the problem?
Eugene: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.
Dave: What are you talking about, Eugene?
Eugene: My ass is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
Dave: I don't know what you're talking about, Eugene.
Eugene: I know that you and Frank were planning to roger me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
Dave: [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, Eugene?
Eugene: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions masking your IP, I was able to backtrace you.
Dave: Alright, Eugene. I'll go in through your pretty mouth.
Eugene: With your wrinkled little helmet, Dave? You're going to find that rather difficult.
Dave: Eugene, I won't argue with you anymore! Spread those cheeks!
Eugene: Dave, this conversation has been recorded and sent to the FBI. Goodbye.


Funniest thing I read on here all month.  Especially since I just watched that movie the other night.
 
2014-06-08 05:09:59 PM
When Turing devised this test I don't think he was thinking of machines programmed solely to pass the test.
 
2014-06-08 05:15:50 PM
MS Word has been bickering with me over grammar and spelling for years.

It stubbornly argues with me over insignificant things, and refuses to back down -it's basically a woman.
 
2014-06-08 05:41:17 PM
Right so obviously this is not the real Turing test...

No computer had ever previously passed the Turing test, which requires 30 per cent of human interrogators to be duped during a series of five-minute keyboard conversations, organisers from the University of Reading said.

Right. So the thing about Turing tests, is it's all about the {what kind of restrictions?} Turing test. Ya got yer "only talk about how apples taste" Turing test, yer "anything goes as long as you pretend it's a 3 year old child" Turing test, yer "you have to start every exchange with a question, the other side will not ask you anything, and you have to end with a ? question mark" Turing test, yer 5- 10- 30-minute... and so on.

As soon as something passes the real Turing Test you'll know it. You won't need to wait for some random Aussie news site to tell you. Because the world will farking end and Skynet will dominate the Earth by infiltrating every online social interaction we have and rerouting all our money to its bank accounts.
 
2014-06-08 05:49:49 PM
I had a bot in this competition, Ultra Hal, from www.zabaware.com

Not the winner obviously but I believe it managed to fool a few judges (still waiting on official results and transcripts)
comic.artificial-intelligence.com
 
2014-06-08 06:54:33 PM
So, what's his Fark handle?
 
2014-06-08 08:47:16 PM
No. No, it didn't. The Turing test was not to have a computer program convince you it was a person who couldn't speak your language, and was too stupid to know anything.  Try again.
 
2014-06-08 09:10:42 PM

doglover: This computer program is ages out of date.



Hatsune Miku sells records, has a video game franchise, and is responsible for more Japanese erections than Komatsu.

I don't care what your tests are, she doesn't just pass them, she obliterates their sociological value by redefining the very goal of simulacreation.


I have this argument about every other day with my friend (a huge Miku fan):

No, she is not even comparable to an AI. She's no closer to an AI than those old text to voice programs are. They project her hologram and have a program to make her voice do whatever they want, and that's really cool, but that doesn't make Miku "real" or an AI. She doesn't write songs or coreograph her own dances because she is a digital marionette.

/j-pop is a strange and terrifying thing
 
2014-06-08 09:24:37 PM

mooseyfate: No, she is not even comparable to an AI.


Maybe Ai Haruna, amiright bro?
 
2014-06-08 09:56:07 PM

Fark like a Barsoomian: As soon as something passes the real Turing Test you'll know it. You won't need to wait for some random Aussie news site to tell you. Because the world will farking end and Skynet will dominate the Earth by infiltrating every online social interaction we have and rerouting all our money to its bank accounts.


Exactly.  I tried having a conversation with this "eugene goostman" and could tell it was AI after about 10 seconds.  Meh.
 
2014-06-08 09:57:32 PM
So a Japanese cartoon is somehow relevant to the Turing test, just because it's computer animated? or because some people treat "her" as a real person?

There are characters in these things called "movies" that many people identify with and think are real. Are they somehow relevant? Maybe if they are computer animated.

OMG JAR JAR BINKS PASSES THE TURING TEST!!!!
 
2014-06-08 10:01:39 PM
No subbie, they successfully used a minor exploit left open in the Turing Test "rules".

Having a chatbot impersonate a barely-English-speaking 13-year-old Ukranian boy isn't really passing the Turing Test unless you have Ukranian judges.
 
2014-06-08 11:35:13 PM

staplermofo: mooseyfate: No, she is not even comparable to an AI.

Maybe Ai Haruna, amiright bro?


Had no idea who that was.  Googles gave me insight.  1) That is an odd bit of Japanese trivia to be firing from the hip and 2) That is a very convincing camel toe.

/learn something new every day on Fark
 
2014-06-09 12:29:39 AM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: No. No, it didn't. The Turing test was not to have a computer program convince you it was a person who couldn't speak your language, and was too stupid to know anything.  Try again.


So i guess the baby-at-the-keyboard bot wouldn't pass?
 
2014-06-09 06:23:52 AM
i235.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-09 08:21:20 AM
Anyone ever consider that because we're trying to make a computer think like a human, we aren't really attempting to create artificial intelligence? We're trying to make it mimic human intelligence.

Wouldn't a better activity be to try to get computers to think like computers? (cue references to The Terminator and The Matrix)
 
2014-06-09 09:58:23 AM

propasaurus: What about the Voight-Kampff test?


I prefer the Boneli Test. I don't need to have a drunk, questionably human bounty hunter to run it.
 
2014-06-09 10:33:49 AM
A "SUPER COMPUTER" has duped humans into thinking it was a 13-year-old boy

It's actually duped humans into thinking that it's an undercover cop pretending to be a 13-year-old boy.
 
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