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2014-06-08 11:23:56 AM  
This is one of those times where I love my country, but hate many of the people in it.
 
2014-06-08 11:27:18 AM  

NewportBarGuy: This is one of those times where I love my country, but hate many of the people in it.



Well said.
 
2014-06-08 11:40:32 AM  
Done in one

/damn but there are some stupid f*ckers in this country
 
2014-06-08 11:52:47 AM  

NewportBarGuy: This is one of those times where I love my country, but hate many of the people in it.


If this turns out to be another Richard "WE'RE 100% HE'S THE OLYMPIC TERRORIST" Jewell, I hope every single one of those farkers gets hit by a train.

Even if it wasn't, they can still go fark themselves.  We were doing patrols every day in Iraq, and losing guys pretty farking fast, once the Surge kicked off.  Some dudes snapped and did shiat that didn't make any goddamn sense.  Some dudes were throw back on the line with obvious PTSD, concussions, and traumatic brain injuries.

Hell, we had one suicidal dude try to OD at the National Training Center in farking California.  When he woke up, he stumbled out of the aid station in a drug-induced daze and wandered out into the Mojave Desert.

It sounds like this guy should have been left back in Alaska on Rear Detachment in the first place.  Not to mention it sounded like he wanted to so some hearts & minds, reconstruction stuff like Civil Affairs, and his recruiter conned him into going into the infantry.
 
2014-06-08 12:11:46 PM  
I don't suppose the douchbags on Faux had anything to do with this, right?i.imgbox.com
 
2014-06-08 12:12:03 PM  

Sgt Otter: It sounds like this guy should have been left back in Alaska on Rear Detachment in the first place. Not to mention it sounded like he wanted to so some hearts & minds, reconstruction stuff like Civil Affairs, and his recruiter conned him into going into the infantry.


I think Jon Stewart nailed the dichotomy in this whole thing. "We will leave no man behind!" vs. "We do NOT negotiate with terrorists!"

It's the end of the war, we get our people back and give up the people we have. Even if this guy was a complete BOLO, we get him back, debrief him, and that's it. I am so sick and tired of people turning every goddamn incident into one of these Ghazi things just to score political points.

Saw plenty of people piss hot on purpose trying to get out. One SSG pissed hot for cocaine twice, then, when told they'd deal with it AFTER deployment, he ran off to Mexico. I don't think less of him. I don't think of him at all.

Sgt Otter: It sounds like this guy should have been left back in Alaska on Rear Detachment in the first place.


I was on Rear-D after my knee surgery. Some of those people, man... One guy was there after surgery because the SAW guy popped a few into his legs. Quite a few were complete head cases. My roommate in the barracks was on so many psych meds that I think he had his own pharmacy.

Blaming this guy for any deaths is asinine to the nth degree.

I'd love for Congress to take a look at how many people on those patrols in Iraq and Afghanistan were on ADHD medications prescribed in theater and what their situation is now. Of course, they won't because then they'd have to admit about a billion other f*ck-ups.

The only plus to this whole goddamn thing is that we are finally nearing an end to 13 years of constant war. Sure, we'll keep a garrison in-country, but, for the most part, we're ending this nightmare.

That one dick on Fox and Fiends... Brown-haired douche who is not Steve Douchebag... Telling the father to shave his beard so he doesn't look like a member of the Taliban? THAT is how you incite people into doing sh*t like hurling death threats at a family just trying to cope with getting their son back after 5 years. F*ck that guy.

Meh... I'm going to go power wash the house. Enough of this crap.
 
2014-06-08 12:26:05 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Sgt Otter: It sounds like this guy should have been left back in Alaska on Rear Detachment in the first place. Not to mention it sounded like he wanted to so some hearts & minds, reconstruction stuff like Civil Affairs, and his recruiter conned him into going into the infantry.

I think Jon Stewart nailed the dichotomy in this whole thing. "We will leave no man behind!" vs. "We do NOT negotiate with terrorists!"


The funny thing is that the Taliban aren't even officially terrorists.  Rumsfeld flat out stated we'd treat Al Qaida prisoners different from Taliban prisoners, and recognize the Taliban prisoners under the Geneva Conventions (but not even give them full POW status).  Even though only handful of countries recognized the Taliban government as legit, they were the de facto government of Afghanistan when we invaded.

Even if they were, the Sons of Iraq U.S.-backed militia in their spiffy khaki uniforms, used to be AIF insurgents, until the CIA started showing up with briefcases full of cash.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-06-08 12:31:09 PM  
Stay classy.
 
2014-06-08 12:31:46 PM  
Bunch of idiot politicos at Fox News incite hatred in their demented viewers and people get death threats?

You can't explain that. No wait. You can. Fox News is 4chan for rednecks.
 
2014-06-08 12:32:22 PM  
If that's your idea of sticking up for America, than please go kill yourself.

Really
 
2014-06-08 12:33:53 PM  

Sgt Otter: I hope every single one of those farkers gets hit by a train.


Why do you hate trains?
 
2014-06-08 12:34:08 PM  

NewportBarGuy: This is one of those times where I love my country, but hate many of the people in it.


I like you America, but not so much your Americans. They are so much unlike your America.
 
2014-06-08 12:35:48 PM  
Find them, arrest them, send them to Afghanistan.

/just to clarify, I meant the death threateners, not the parents
 
2014-06-08 12:37:55 PM  

Sgt Otter: If this turns out to be another Richard "WE'RE 100% HE'S THE OLYMPIC TERRORIST" Jewell, I hope every single one of those farkers gets hit by a train


I would settle for huge libel settlements which is what Jewell received.
 
2014-06-08 12:38:19 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Done in one

/damn but there are some stupid f*ckers in this country


And remember, folks: they will be out there voting on election day to vote for the worst that the republicans have to offer.
 
2014-06-08 12:38:55 PM  

NewportBarGuy: This is one of those times where I love my country, but hate many of the people in it.


I'm starting to slowly realize that some people may think they love what the constitution has done for us and believe in "American exceptionalism" but in reality they hate constitutional protections such as due process and hate what what makes America exceptional (leaving no American soldier behind for instance).
 
2014-06-08 12:39:02 PM  
Be it this or when a kicker misses a game-winning field goal, I have and will never understand the combination of stupidity and assholeishness that makes someone take the time and effort to craft a death threat.  How screwed up does your life and brain have to be to think that's in any way acceptable as a member of society?
 
2014-06-08 12:39:25 PM  

Epic Fap Session: If that's your idea of sticking up for America, than please go kill yourself.

Really


America the symbol has overtaken America the philosophy. The symbol and idea of being an "American" has long since became more important as an overt image, then standing for the ideals and metrics for which our nation was founded upon.  Eagleland, Type II would be an appropriate descriptor.
 
2014-06-08 12:39:52 PM  
Why the parents?

Other than Faux News comparing the dad's appearance to a terrorist's; how are they involved at ALL in how things played out?
 
2014-06-08 12:40:12 PM  
I heard he even learned how to speak muslin to talk with the arabs
 
2014-06-08 12:40:37 PM  
Stay classy, conservatives.
 
2014-06-08 12:41:07 PM  
FALSE FLAG!!  Libs are doing this to make conservatives look bad!

-I bet shiat like that is all over right-wing "news" site comments sections.
 
2014-06-08 12:42:07 PM  
i.imgur.com

I guess this is what they're running with. I thought the POW-MIA mockup of "certain restrictions may apply" was exempt from Poeslaw, but here were are. We now live in a society where one party thinks that POWs need to be approved by a government death panel as to whether or not they are worthy to be saved from the enemy. Go fark yourselves, Republicans. You disgust me. You should disgust yourselves if you were capable of any self-reflection whatsoever.
 
2014-06-08 12:43:59 PM  

Jaden Smith First of His Name: [i.imgur.com image 633x133]

I guess this is what they're running with. I thought the POW-MIA mockup of "certain restrictions may apply" was exempt from Poeslaw, but here were are. We now live in a society where one party thinks that POWs need to be approved by a government death panel as to whether or not they are worthy to be saved from the enemy. Go fark yourselves, Republicans. You disgust me. You should disgust yourselves if you were capable of any self-reflection whatsoever.


I thought that POW thing had been objectively proven to be a falsehood for several decades now

I mean there are still thousands of MIAs from American wars but that means "he's dead but we can't find his body" not "he's in a sekrit prison"
 
2014-06-08 12:44:03 PM  
'murica #1.
 
2014-06-08 12:46:07 PM  
Guessing this was done by "real 'murca lovin 'murcans".

They probably wear crying eagle on a rock tshirts and up until 2 weeks ago, really pretended to care about pow/mia.

/hope Bergdahls lawyers track down every single human astroturfing his reputation and make them pay, pay, pay.
 
2014-06-08 12:46:24 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Done in one

/damn but there are some stupid f*ckers in this country



you can thank the corporate owned propaganda that poses as 'news' for that.  we don't have much Journalism any more.  if the real news was getting out, then we wouldn't have the divisiveness in this country.
 
2014-06-08 12:47:29 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: I thought that POW thing had been objectively proven to be a falsehood for several decades now


Compared to the insane shiat people believe about every other facet of society, from tap water to faking the moon landing, I'm not surprised that some people still think we need to send John Rambo back to 'Nam to free some seventy-year-old POW from his secret bamboo prison.
 
2014-06-08 12:48:20 PM  
 
Boe [TotalFark]
2014-06-08 12:49:15 PM  

Speaker2Animals: I don't suppose the douchbags on Faux had anything to do with this, right?[i.imgbox.com image 550x332]


Well who else is going to agitate the mindless Torches and Pitchforks Brigade into whargarble?
 
2014-06-08 12:49:58 PM  

LaBlueSkuld: Why the parents?

Other than Faux News comparing the dad's appearance to a terrorist's; how are they involved at ALL in how things played out?


There is no good reason of course, but it starts just like every unhinged right-wing idea.
Step 1: Talking heads in faux news "Doesn't he look like a Muslim?"  (see below),
Step 2:  Blogs get "outraged" for some percieved link established by step 1.
Step 3: FW:FW:FW
Step 4: Someone is slandered/libeled (Salt Lake City Olympics), accused of trumped up charges (Benghazi) or someone takes the law in their own hands (Bergdahl's parents)  or a mixture of the three..

STEP 1:
(SEE POSTS BELOW)

STEP 2/3:
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/72037/disgusting-bowe-bergdahls-dad-m ak es-islamic-declaration-after-sons-release-calls-for-release-of-all-git mo-terrorists-did-bergdahl-convert-to-islam/
http://www.teaparty.org/see-obama-smile-soon-bergdahl-father-praises -a llah-43802/
http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/bombshell-first-words-bergdahls-father -w hite-house-arabic/
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/06/01/pows-dad-praises-allah-at-sus pi cious-rose-garden-press-conference-with-obama-122631
 
2014-06-08 12:51:51 PM  

Aldon: (Salt Lake City Olympics)


?
 
2014-06-08 12:52:09 PM  
I've been trying to come up with an eloquent way to show my disapproval of this situation, but the best I have is:

fark Yooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu
 
2014-06-08 12:53:11 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Aldon: (Salt Lake City Olympics)

?


I think they got those switched with the Atlanta olympics.
 
2014-06-08 12:57:04 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "What none of these media is reporting is that the father's (SGT Bowe Bergdahl's father Bob) first words at the WH were in Arabic - those words were "bism allah alrahman alraheem" - which means "in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful" - these are the opening words of every chapter of the Qur'an except one (the chapter of the sword - the 9th) - by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam. There is no question but POTUS knows this."



Just...

wow...
 
2014-06-08 12:59:34 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Meh... I'm going to go power wash the house. Enough of this crap.


Good on ya. It's very cathartic.
 
2014-06-08 12:59:47 PM  
The assholes at Fox won't be happy till this guy and his parents are Dr Tillered.
 
2014-06-08 01:00:39 PM  

Felgraf: Soup4Bonnie: Aldon: (Salt Lake City Olympics)

?

I think they got those switched with the Atlanta olympics.


Whoops, I don't know why I switched that.

/one of these days I'll hit preview.
 
2014-06-08 01:02:36 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Jaden Smith First of His Name: [i.imgur.com image 633x133]

I guess this is what they're running with. I thought the POW-MIA mockup of "certain restrictions may apply" was exempt from Poeslaw, but here were are. We now live in a society where one party thinks that POWs need to be approved by a government death panel as to whether or not they are worthy to be saved from the enemy. Go fark yourselves, Republicans. You disgust me. You should disgust yourselves if you were capable of any self-reflection whatsoever.

I thought that POW thing had been objectively proven to be a falsehood for several decades now

I mean there are still thousands of MIAs from American wars but that means "he's dead but we can't find his body" not "he's in a sekrit prison"


I don't know if it's complete, but Wikipedia has a list of all U.S. MIA form the Vietnam War.  Almost all of them are listed as "Killed in Action, Body Not Recovered" or "Died in captivity, remains not returned."

If you eliminate the enlisted personnel and junior officers who would presumably wouldn't have enough intel value to illegally hang on to, or risk an international incident over if it was discovered they shipped off to the USSR or the PRC, that leaves a very short list of Air Force majors and Navy commanders.  Most of whom were shot down and "no parachute or ejection observed."

I don't really see any Colonel Iceal Hambletons, who was shot down in 1972.  His expertise in American missile defense systems, nuclear weapons, and ICBMs meant the Soviets "advised" every swinging dick in North Vietnam to snatch his ass at all costs.  We lost eleven guys rescuing him, and it was worth it to keep his brain away from the KGB.
 
2014-06-08 01:03:05 PM  
None of the above negates the fact that no less than SEVEN other men in his unit will SWEAR to the fact that he left all his gear (weapon, vest, etc.) behind and deserted.  But yeah.  Obama made a great deal.  Five high-level Taliban for one deserter.  Also?

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-08 01:06:17 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: None of the above negates the fact that no less than SEVEN other men in his unit will SWEAR to the fact that he left all his gear (weapon, vest, etc.) behind and deserted.  But yeah.  Obama made a great deal.  Five high-level Taliban for one deserter.  Also?

[img.fark.net image 520x395]


Ok, I'll bite.  Are you saying we should not have worked to free Bergdahl?  Or are you saying we traded the wrong prisoners from Gitmo?  Or something else?
 
2014-06-08 01:07:14 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: None of the above negates the fact that no less than SEVEN other men in his unit will SWEAR to the fact that he left all his gear (weapon, vest, etc.) behind and deserted.  But yeah.  Obama made a great deal.  Five high-level Taliban for one deserter.  Also?

[img.fark.net image 520x395]


I hope you become a prisoner of war and we leave you to die.
 
2014-06-08 01:07:58 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: None of the above negates the fact that no less than SEVEN other men in his unit will SWEAR to the fact that he left all his gear (weapon, vest, etc.) behind and deserted.  But yeah.  Obama made a great deal.  Five high-level Taliban for one deserter.


So in other words: "hurpy derpy dooo!"

Guessing your fantasy men in his unit are too busy spending the astroturf checks to corroborate your made up fantasy story.
 
2014-06-08 01:08:06 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: None of the above negates the fact that no less than SEVEN other men in his unit will SWEAR to the fact that he left all his gear (weapon, vest, etc.) behind and deserted.  But yeah.  Obama made a great deal.  Five high-level Taliban for one deserter.  Also?

[img.fark.net image 520x395]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process

I just hope you know how to read
 
2014-06-08 01:08:23 PM  

freetomato: The assholes at Fox won't be happy till this guy and his parents are Dr Tillered.


You don't say:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/08/fox-host-chris-wallace-asks-if -d eath-penalty-for-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-should-be-on-the-table/

Fox News host Chris Wallace on Sunday wondered if former prisoner of war Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl deserved to be executed for allegedly leaving his outpost in 2009.
 
2014-06-08 01:09:44 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: None of the above negates the fact that no less than SEVEN other men in his unit will SWEAR to the fact that he left all his gear (weapon, vest, etc.) behind and deserted.  But yeah.  Obama made a great deal.  Five high-level Taliban for one deserter.  Also?

[img.fark.net image 520x395]


Then let's wait for the court marshall, shall we?

Because people can farking run their mouth to the press all they like, but it kind of suddenly changes when asked to do so under penalty of perjury.

Plus, it was already established he left his stuff behind-but I'm not sure how that supports *desertion*. If he was going to desert, wouldn't he kind of *WANT* t be armed? OR at least have more than he took with him?

He'd also *ALREADY* wandered off twice before (Once before they even GOT TO AFGHANISTAN), so I don't see why it's a surprise that hemay have done so a third time, then got caught.
 
2014-06-08 01:10:20 PM  
What went on in Afghanistan?

Bowe knows.
 
2014-06-08 01:10:32 PM  

Speaker2Animals: I don't suppose the douchbags on Faux had anything to do with this, right?[i.imgbox.com image 550x332]


Jaden Smith First of His Name: Bunch of idiot politicos at Fox News incite hatred in their demented viewers and people get death threats?

You can't explain that. No wait. You can. Fox News is 4chan for rednecks.


^^ These.

Somebody please show me some numbers that prove me wrong -- I really want to be proven wrong about this -- but it sure seems that, judging by news reports at least, over the last 20 years the political right has been a hell of a lot more death-threatty than any other chunk of the American population you could choose for comparison. And if that's true, the responsibility is all on Fox News and Limbaugh and the rest of the AM radio talk show hosts and probably a few Evangelical pastors too ("shepherds", my ass) for making one fourth of the country's population angry and crazy.

I'd like to see some reporting on this, but the inevitable butthurt backlash from the easily-offended right wing is going to make this an impossibility... at least from U.S. media.
 
2014-06-08 01:11:48 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: None of the above negates the fact that no less than SEVEN other men in his unit will SWEAR to the fact that he left all his gear (weapon, vest, etc.) behind and deserted.  But yeah.  Obama made a great deal.  Five high-level Taliban for one deserter.  Also?

[img.fark.net image 520x395]


I bet you brag to other people that you don't believe everything you see on the media, huh? Look at you sucking this up unquestioningly, like a little child.

You don't deserve to talk to adults. You don't seem to know how one thinks.
 
2014-06-08 01:12:18 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: None of the above negates the fact that no less than SEVEN other men in his unit will SWEAR to the fact that he left all his gear (weapon, vest, etc.) behind and deserted.


Well then we should have shot his parents and left to guy to die in captivity because seven guys who didn't like the guy say so.

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: But yeah. Obama made a great deal. Five high-level Taliban for one deserter.


And this is the worst deal ever because five guys in the Taliban government are being held in Qatar now?  Are they going to escape the Phantom Zone and force us to kneel before Zod?
 
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