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(Deadline)   The Fault in Our Stars soars past the competition at the box office, taking #1 with $50 million while Maleficent stays strong at #2 and Tom Cruise's latest derivative science fiction film bombs, thudding at #3 with $28 million   (deadline.com) divider line 171
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2014-06-08 06:58:27 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Isn't The Fault in Our Stars supposed to be this generation's Titanic?  In terms of pre-/teen girls appeal, I mean.  Not content.


I've heard people call it "Cancer Twilight". Which is kind of redundant, if you think about it.
 
2014-06-08 06:59:07 PM  
Yes.
 
2014-06-08 07:00:40 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: fisker: Nefarious: I thought Edge was quite enjoyable.  Maybe it will have legs on word of mouth but I'm not counting on it.

I was goddamned incredible and Bill Paxton was hilarious.

I recommend to anyone who can to go see it as soon as possible. You will not regret it.

I liked it a lot. I read the book, and felt they only improved in it. But I kept wondering why the movie Ends right before the twist in the book, where it's revealed they can't both survive at the end, and they have to take one of themselves out in order for the loop to be truly broken.


So there's a bit of "Looper" in the mix as well.
 
2014-06-08 07:00:54 PM  
Edge of Tomorrow was fantastic, but it's hard sci-fi and stars a man that leaves many with a bad taste in their mouth.
 
2014-06-08 07:05:09 PM  

AbiNormal: farkeruk: Looking on Rotten Tomatoes. Angelina Jolie's done a shiatload of dud movies. And very few "fresh" ones score very highly.

She only ever plays one farking character in every farking movie she's in, the crazy biatch. It would be nice if she could actually act or at least get naked in a movie.


I've heard that she gives a solid performance in the movie, and is the best thing about it. Then again, I've heard the movie is really weak and is basically one giant "Hell Hath No Fury Like a Woman Scorned" trope.
 
2014-06-08 07:27:10 PM  
Edge of Tomorrow was amazing. That scene where he first tries to escape the fifty pushups was hilarious, the whole theater bursted out laughing.
 
2014-06-08 07:56:06 PM  
Edge of Tomorrow was allright.  Category #2:  Don't want my money back.

*****SPOILER*****

However, the ending of the film rendered everything that proceeded it moot.  That was a serious design-by-committee-wtf-hollywood-happy-ending.

*****SPOILER*****
 
2014-06-08 07:57:04 PM  

skinink: Edge of Tomorrow doing poorly in America is proof that people over here don't appreciate good movies. I'm not a big Tom Cruise fan, but he and Emily Blunt were great in this movie. Also comparing this to Groundhog Day is selling this movie short. The director did a great job and the movie really moves along. I just saw this in 3D and it is worth the ticket price.


Just got back from an IMAX 3D showing and I couldn't agree more.

I'm not an Emily Blunt fan, but she was dynamite. I really enjoyed Paxton's bit as well.
 
2014-06-08 08:03:16 PM  

BafflerMeal: Edge of Tomorrow was allright.  Category #2:  Don't want my money back.

*****SPOILER*****

However, the ending of the film rendered everything that proceeded it moot.  That was a serious design-by-committee-wtf-hollywood-happy-ending.

*****SPOILER*****


Not exactly. I think what happened was that somehow what Tom Cruise's character did caused a ripple effect throughout time
 
2014-06-08 08:06:02 PM  
Edge of Tomorrow was great.  Easily one of Cruise's best films.
 
2014-06-08 08:06:27 PM  
I have to give props to Shailene Woodley. Can't get any more different than her 2 characters in Divergent and "Fault", going from a sci fi action hero to a young girl dying of cancer and doing a good job on both.. The young lady has some acting ability, IMHO.
As for Cruise, just tired of his schtick.
 
2014-06-08 08:07:31 PM  
Edge of Tomorrow was surprisingly good.  See it in 3D if you can.
 
2014-06-08 08:10:56 PM  
I've hardly seen anything Cruise has done since the 80s ended, and parts of the Edge of Tomorrow trailer made me cringe a bit. But you guys seem to like it a lot. I may reconsider.
 
2014-06-08 08:15:47 PM  

texdent: BafflerMeal: Edge of Tomorrow was allright.  Category #2:  Don't want my money back.

*****SPOILER*****

However, the ending of the film rendered everything that proceeded it moot.  That was a serious design-by-committee-wtf-hollywood-happy-ending.

*****SPOILER*****

Not exactly. I think what happened was that somehow what Tom Cruise's character did caused a ripple effect throughout time


I suppose I could go with that.  However, it kind of breaks the internal consistency of the story without further explanation.

Also:  Emily Blunt would have made a much, much, much better Black Widow in the MCU.
 
2014-06-08 08:23:29 PM  

gingerjet: I saw only one advert for "Edge of Tomorrow" and I had to google it to figure out that it was a Cruise vehicle (then he showed up the late night shows last week).  Whoever marketed this movie should be canned.


I don't think I had heard about it until X-Men came out and that was, what, two weeks ago? Sure it got a lot of last minute hype, but I'm surprised it didn't get a bigger push before that.
 
2014-06-08 08:25:13 PM  

BafflerMeal: Edge of Tomorrow was allright.  Category #2:  Don't want my money back.

*****SPOILER*****

However, the ending of the film rendered everything that proceeded it moot.  That was a serious design-by-committee-wtf-hollywood-happy-ending.

*****SPOILER*****


Yeah that ending was almost up there in "Spielberg War of the Worlds" territory (though it's unlikely that anything will ever actually  match that one). And to boot, it made no sense whatsoever. The movie before it was quite solid, though, and it's a shame people aren't giving it a chance.

By the way, I actually  liked Oblivion. The movie itself wasn't too great, but the cinematography, production design, and action set pieces were fantastic. It was absolutely one of the best-looking sci-fi movies I've ever seen. The post-apocalyptic landscape was gorgeous, and that scene with the sentry robots inside the rebels' hideout was just awesome.
 
2014-06-08 08:32:11 PM  
Saw Edge on Friday and thought it was great.  Definitely one of Cruise's best.  The ending was a little underwhelming and predictable, but it delivered exactly what I expected and that was a fun, engrossing sci-fi movie with just the right amount of dark humor in it.  Cruise did a fantastic job with it (and I'm not a big fan) and Paxon is always welcome in any movie.  That guy rocks in everything.
 
2014-06-08 08:36:11 PM  
Maybe Farkers may think this statement is wrong, but the failure of "Edge of Tomorrow" to attract big audiences reminds me of the movie "John Carter" which I also thought was a great movie even though it flopped when released. John Carter was entertaining and pretty good: I've seen worse movies than either John Carter or Edge of Tomorrow.
 
2014-06-08 08:40:03 PM  
Look at all the tough men shiatting all over something that they know little to nothing about because supposedly young females like it.  And everyone knows there's nothing so awful and worthy of scorn in this world as a young female and what she likes.

If you spend any time on the internet shiatting on things girls like just because girls like it.... you need to get a life.  Or confine yourself to reddit and 4chan so the rest of us don't have to see your idiocy.

Here's Jeremy Jahns' review of it.

/"Garden State with cancer"
//DFTBA
 
2014-06-08 08:45:53 PM  

skinink: Maybe Farkers may think this statement is wrong, but the failure of "Edge of Tomorrow" to attract big audiences reminds me of the movie "John Carter" which I also thought was a great movie even though it flopped when released. John Carter was entertaining and pretty good: I've seen worse movies than either John Carter or Edge of Tomorrow.



I, too, enjoyed John Carter and yeah, inept marketing was partly responsible for its failure in the States. Taylor Kitsch is actually a decent actor, despite his rep these days as box office poison-a direct result of this movie.
 
2014-06-08 08:47:42 PM  

if_i_really_have_to: Look at all the tough men shiatting all over something that they know little to nothing about because supposedly young females like it.  And everyone knows there's nothing so awful and worthy of scorn in this world as a young female and what she likes.

If you spend any time on the internet shiatting on things girls like just because girls like it.... you need to get a life.  Or confine yourself to reddit and 4chan so the rest of us don't have to see your idiocy.

Here's Jeremy Jahns' review of it.

/"Garden State with cancer"
//DFTBA


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2014-06-08 08:51:02 PM  

if_i_really_have_to: Look at all the tough men shiatting all over something that they know little to nothing about because supposedly young females like it.  And everyone knows there's nothing so awful and worthy of scorn in this world as a young female and what she likes.

If you spend any time on the internet shiatting on things girls like just because girls like it.... you need to get a life.  Or confine yourself to reddit and 4chan so the rest of us don't have to see your idiocy.

Here's Jeremy Jahns' review of it.

/"Garden State with cancer"
//DFTBA


I thought 50/50 was Garden State with cancer.
 
2014-06-08 08:55:49 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: ThatBillmanGuy: fisker: Nefarious: I thought Edge was quite enjoyable.  Maybe it will have legs on word of mouth but I'm not counting on it.

I was goddamned incredible and Bill Paxton was hilarious.

I recommend to anyone who can to go see it as soon as possible. You will not regret it.

I liked it a lot. I read the book, and felt they only improved in it. But I kept wondering why the movie Ends right before the twist in the book, where it's revealed they can't both survive at the end, and they have to take one of themselves out in order for the loop to be truly broken.

So there's a bit of "Looper" in the mix as well.


My first thought when I saw the premise was Source Code.
 
2014-06-08 09:01:04 PM  
Saw "Edge" on Saturday afternoon with my teenage son, in an almost empty theater.
Liked it a lot.
Didn't care for the "happy ending"...
 
2014-06-08 09:04:24 PM  
Emily Blunt's name was Rita in Edge of Tomorrow.

Andie MacDowell's name was also Rita, in Groundhog Day.

debaucherysoup.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-08 09:08:33 PM  

if_i_really_have_to: Look at all the tough men shiatting all over something that they know little to nothing about because supposedly young females like it.  And everyone knows there's nothing so awful and worthy of scorn in this world as a young female and what she likes.

If you spend any time on the internet shiatting on things girls like just because girls like it.... you need to get a life.  Or confine yourself to reddit and 4chan so the rest of us don't have to see your idiocy.

Here's Jeremy Jahns' review of it.

/"Garden State with cancer"
//DFTBA


Meh, I'm a female but I'd still rather see something with explosions.  However, everyone should do what they like.  I'll see Edge next weekend and I'm looking forward to it.  I might catch "Garden State with Cancer" on Redbox.  I rarely spend theatre money on romantic tear jerkers, but as it appears it might actually be a decent movie I'm willing to give it a shot.  Might try the book.

AbiNormal: farkeruk: Looking on Rotten Tomatoes. Angelina Jolie's done a shiatload of dud movies. And very few "fresh" ones score very highly.

She only ever plays one farking character in every farking movie she's in, the crazy biatch. It would be nice if she could actually act or at least get naked in a movie.


That is a somewhat accurate assessment if you're reporting from 1999.
 
2014-06-08 09:49:53 PM  
I don't understand how the word "derivative" is pejorative. Everything is derivative of something.
 
2014-06-08 10:17:55 PM  

propasaurus: What's Edge derivative of?


The Star Trek TNG episode "Cause and Effect".

And the Supernatural episode "Mystery Spot".

And Run Lola Run.
 
2014-06-08 10:20:21 PM  

texdent: BafflerMeal: Edge of Tomorrow was allright.  Category #2:  Don't want my money back.

*****SPOILER*****

However, the ending of the film rendered everything that proceeded it moot.  That was a serious design-by-committee-wtf-hollywood-happy-ending.

*****SPOILER*****

Not exactly. I think what happened was that somehow what Tom Cruise's character did caused a ripple effect throughout time


If that's the case, why didn't it ripple back farther?

From a purely cinematic stand point, it does make sense to only go back a day so they don't have to introduce new details to explain what happened.

From a thematic stand point, I feel that it would have made more sense if the final ripple went back so far that the aliens never invaded Earth at all (either because the death of the Omega caused them to be erased from existence or it just decided "F*ck that noise" and went somewhere else) and the closing minutes of the movie show Cruise struggling to come to grips with being the only veteran of a war that never happened.

yakmans_dad: I don't understand how the word "derivative" is pejorative. Everything is derivative of something.


This.

fisker: Emily Blunt's name was Rita in Edge of Tomorrow.

Andie MacDowell's name was also Rita, in Groundhog Day.

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2014-06-08 10:22:22 PM  

BafflerMeal: texdent: BafflerMeal: Edge of Tomorrow was allright.  Category #2:  Don't want my money back.

*****SPOILER*****

However, the ending of the film rendered everything that proceeded it moot.  That was a serious design-by-committee-wtf-hollywood-happy-ending.

*****SPOILER*****

Not exactly. I think what happened was that somehow what Tom Cruise's character did caused a ripple effect throughout time

I suppose I could go with that.  However, it kind of breaks the internal consistency of the story without further explanation.

Also:  Emily Blunt would have made a much, much, much better Black Widow in the MCU.


Which is why the director of Gulliver's Travels should be blacklisted from ever making films again. The fact that the production of that turd forced her to bow out of Iron Man 2 is a crime against humanity.
 
2014-06-08 10:42:27 PM  
Which movie to see ?  Does it have Tom Cruise? Then Hell No! Do Not Want!
 
2014-06-08 11:33:06 PM  
Edge of Tomorrow was okay, but I didn't  like the Hollywood ending.

/Source Code + Starship Troopers
//6 out of 10
///
 
2014-06-08 11:41:49 PM  
I don't understand the appeal of movies like Fault with our Stars, isn't the realities of life depressing ebough? Do you really require auxillary narratives to manipulate your emotions and make you even more depressed about things that never happened to people that don't exist? I can open any newspaper and read about some real farked up shiat for free, why pay money for the opportunity?
 
2014-06-08 11:44:28 PM  

propasaurus: What's Edge derivative of?


Every single combat FPS in the last two decades.
 
2014-06-08 11:59:34 PM  

BalugaJoe: I watched Frozen with my niece.  I liked it.


Is niece what you call your glass of Bourbon?
 
2014-06-09 12:01:03 AM  

Riotboy: Edge of Tomorrow was okay, but I didn't  like the Hollywood ending.

/Source Code + Starship Troopers
//6 out of 10
///


Dude! Spoiler Alert!!!
 
2014-06-09 12:15:22 AM  

spman: I don't understand the appeal of movies like Fault with our Stars, isn't the realities of life depressing ebough? Do you really require auxillary narratives to manipulate your emotions and make you even more depressed about things that never happened to people that don't exist? I can open any newspaper and read about some real farked up shiat for free, why pay money for the opportunity?


Yes. You can relate to the protagonist on the screen, get fully immersed, and watch him die. And then you can realize that "hey, I'm still alive. I can make a difference. I learned from his death. I'm glad he died for me, though I wish he had lived. Maybe I could figure out a way for him to live. Maybe I can find a way for myself to live."
 
2014-06-09 12:44:15 AM  
Based upon commentary here, I changed my plan to see the movie in 2D and instead viewed it in 3D. I believe that the experience was worth the additional cost.

I do agree with Garbonzo42's statements about what would have constituted a better ending, however.
 
2014-06-09 12:47:28 AM  

Dimensio: Based upon commentary here, I changed my plan to see the movie in 2D and instead viewed it in 3D. I believe that the experience was worth the additional cost.

I do agree with Garbonzo42's statements about what would have constituted a better ending, however.


I think I would have preferred if they just died.  It would have been a bit of a downer mitigated by the scenes of celebration from the survivors.
 
2014-06-09 12:56:44 AM  

underwhere: I'm surprised by all the crap The Fault In Our Stars is getting. The author, John Green, is a stand up guy and he and his brother Hank have their fingers in all sorts of worthy projects.

John is even putting three of his own dollars to every one dollar donated to a fund that researches the specific cancer that one if the characters in the book/movie has.

And once a week he does a google hangout with different cancer wards around the world just to chat and give them a chance to ask him questions or tell their own story.

I'd go see this movie just to support this guys mission to "decrease world suck".

If you haven't checked out his Crash Course series if videos on YouTube then you need to stop what you're doing and look them up.


This all the way up. John Green is probably the best person alive. That guy is just GOOD. And yes, I adore Crash Course.

THE MONGOLS!!
 
2014-06-09 01:02:36 AM  

spman: I don't understand the appeal of movies like Fault with our Stars, isn't the realities of life depressing ebough? Do you really require auxillary narratives to manipulate your emotions and make you even more depressed about things that never happened to people that don't exist? I can open any newspaper and read about some real farked up shiat for free, why pay money for the opportunity?


Those kinds of movies aren't my thing, generally, and I have not seen this one.  I chalk up the appeal though to the same thing that causes me to enjoy horror films.  People are murdered by real murderers every day but that doesn't stop me from enjoying Silence of the Lambs.  Why couldn't someone get some kind of similar catharsis from seeing this movie?
 
2014-06-09 01:02:49 AM  

Garbonzo42: texdent: BafflerMeal: Edge of Tomorrow was allright.  Category #2:  Don't want my money back.

*****SPOILER*****

However, the ending of the film rendered everything that proceeded it moot.  That was a serious design-by-committee-wtf-hollywood-happy-ending.

*****SPOILER*****

Not exactly. I think what happened was that somehow what Tom Cruise's character did caused a ripple effect throughout time

If that's the case, why didn't it ripple back farther?

From a purely cinematic stand point, it does make sense to only go back a day so they don't have to introduce new details to explain what happened.

From a thematic stand point, I feel that it would have made more sense if the final ripple went back so far that the aliens never invaded Earth at all (either because the death of the Omega caused them to be erased from existence or it just decided "F*ck that noise" and went somewhere else) and the closing minutes of the movie show Cruise struggling to come to grips with being the only veteran of a war that never happened.


My feeling was that when the Omega died and it 'bled' on him as he died, it gave him an even stronger version of the time travel power back and he chose (perhaps unconsciously) to go back to the last time his world wasn't a 'world of shiat'.  The point when he still felt he had control over his life.

/but yea, still a Hollywood happy ending.
//It would have been better if he woke up on that pile of bags one more time.  His life shiat, despite everything he did.
 
2014-06-09 01:42:36 AM  

EnderX: BalugaJoe: I watched Frozen with my niece.  I liked it.

Is niece what you call your glass of Bourbon bong?


/sorry
//this is FARK after all
 
2014-06-09 01:49:14 AM  

Lsherm: propasaurus: What's Edge derivative of?

It's a sci-fi Groundhog Day.


I was promised a hyper-violent Groundhog Day. It got a disappointing pg13. If there's an unrated directors cut, I'll rent it.
 
2014-06-09 01:49:33 AM  
Saw EoT yesterday, while killing time before officiating a wedding.  I went in with low expectations, and we pleasantly surprised.  I didn't find any glaring plot holes, and none of the characters seemed stupid for drama's sake.  Now I want to track down and read the original novel.

Didn't have the option of 3D, but I wouldn't mind going again to check it out.

Well worth the $5.50 for a matinee ticket at Chunky's (plus the price of my burger).
 
2014-06-09 01:56:02 AM  
EoT was a fantastic movie, for those of you rat bastards who are on the fence about it - go see it. Otherwise you're personally responsible for the next Adam Sandler "comedy" that gets unleashed upon humanity.
 
2014-06-09 02:23:44 AM  
The Fault In Our Stars should do well among all demographics...

...except for the Mongols.

x2.fjcdn.com
 
2014-06-09 02:40:18 AM  

BafflerMeal: Edge of Tomorrow was allright.  Category #2:  Don't want my money back.

*****SPOILER*****

However, the ending of the film rendered everything that proceeded it moot.  That was a serious design-by-committee-wtf-hollywood-happy-ending.

*****SPOILER*****


Yeah I'm not sure how that qualified as an ending. It certainly wasn't satisfying.  I admit I watched it via stream this weekend, and the dialogue was so quiet I only got the barest overview of any conversation, but didn't feel like I missed anything.  Unless something was dramatically different due to that last loopstart.  Part of that was it wasn't clear to me why he was slotted into infantry in the first place, just that Mad Eye put him there for some reason. Regardless, I enjoyed it and am looking forward to seeing it in the theater and catch the dialogue cleanly this time.

Judgement: pretty good, solid story. Some subtlety that is likely explained in dialogue if you can hear it. :D
 
2014-06-09 02:57:24 AM  

fisker: I was goddamned incredible and Bill Paxton was hilarious.


Oh, were you now?
 
2014-06-09 03:46:18 AM  

Qaiwolf: Part of that was it wasn't clear to me why he was slotted into infantry in the first place, just that Mad Eye put him there for some reason.


Oh, that's simple.  The general wanted him to die.  So, he falsely stripped him of rank and falsely accused him with desertion, which insured he'd be sent to the front lines and die there.  On the movie as a whole, I loved it.  It's a good sci-fi movie and was farking funny too.  Watching Tom Cruise get run over by a truck twice on two separate occasions had my theater in stitches.

In addition, while I doubt he'll get an Oscar nod for it, this movie really shows how well Tom Cruise can act.   In the beginning, he's a spineless cowardly worm.  By the end, after he's died countless thousands of times, he comes off as a grizzled vet who is farking tired of all this.  And it all feels natural.  It doesn't feel forced, it doesn't leave you thinking "we're supposed to buy this guy as an action hero?".  He actually sells this transformation, and in my personal opinion, I think that's an impressive acting performance.
 
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