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2014-06-07 11:19:53 PM
i1048.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-08 01:52:22 AM
carbolicsmoke.com

I don't think I want to have Mr. French watching me taking a bath.
 
2014-06-08 02:51:38 AM
graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2014-06-08 02:54:14 AM
What do you get for that someone who has everything?

A person.
 
2014-06-08 03:01:03 AM
Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa
 
2014-06-08 03:01:41 AM
What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.
 
2014-06-08 03:03:32 AM
FTFA:  "Thirty-five years ago," he writes, "there were only a few hundred butlers left in Britain; today there are roughly 10,000, plus thousands more abroad."

The rich have gotten a LOT richer since the 1970s and 80s.  But no, I'm sure it's a TV show.
 
2014-06-08 03:06:36 AM
There's a lot of butling to do
 
2014-06-08 03:07:57 AM

aerojockey: What do butlers even do?

butle/

 
2014-06-08 03:10:57 AM
It's funny how people think income disparity is something just happening over the past twenty thirty years. The fact is that the rise of the middle class and even vague income equality was something completely new in the history of humanity. Almost as if it were an experiment.
 
2014-06-08 03:14:06 AM

DerekSD: aerojockey: What do butlers even do?

butle/


Well the last name Butler is a slurring of Bottler. Since its a booze related name I'm sure there are lots of them on fark.
 
2014-06-08 03:14:08 AM
I'd rather have a Jeeves.
 
2014-06-08 03:21:52 AM

DerekSD: aerojockey: What do butlers even do?

butle/


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-06-08 03:26:56 AM
What? No love for Benson?

www.wired.com
 
2014-06-08 03:28:13 AM

aerojockey: What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.


They're the head of the household staff - they order around the cooks and grooms and housemaids and so on. They're often confused with valets, who are a gentleman's personal servant in the same way that a lady's maid is a lady's personal servant. In the 20th century as the wealthy began to employ fewer servants the two jobs combined to some extent.

/read too much Wodehouse
 
2014-06-08 03:31:30 AM

fusillade762: Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa


Emposter: FTFA:  "Thirty-five years ago," he writes, "there were only a few hundred butlers left in Britain; today there are roughly 10,000, plus thousands more abroad."

The rich have gotten a LOT richer since the 1970s and 80s.  But no, I'm sure it's a TV show.


If it were income inequality, then the number of butlers should be going down as the lion's share of income goes into fewer and fewer hands.
 
2014-06-08 03:36:41 AM

LrdPhoenix: If it were income inequality, then the number of butlers should be going down as the lion's share of income goes into fewer and fewer hands.


Only the ultra-rich can afford the sort of lifestyle that you'd want a butler for.
 
2014-06-08 03:36:45 AM

LrdPhoenix: fusillade762: Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa

Emposter: FTFA:  "Thirty-five years ago," he writes, "there were only a few hundred butlers left in Britain; today there are roughly 10,000, plus thousands more abroad."

The rich have gotten a LOT richer since the 1970s and 80s.  But no, I'm sure it's a TV show.

If it were income inequality, then the number of butlers should be going down as the lion's share of income goes into fewer and fewer hands.


Where did you get that idea?
 
2014-06-08 03:47:36 AM

Emposter: LrdPhoenix: fusillade762: Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa

Emposter: FTFA:  "Thirty-five years ago," he writes, "there were only a few hundred butlers left in Britain; today there are roughly 10,000, plus thousands more abroad."

The rich have gotten a LOT richer since the 1970s and 80s.  But no, I'm sure it's a TV show.

If it were income inequality, then the number of butlers should be going down as the lion's share of income goes into fewer and fewer hands.

Where did you get that idea?


Only logical that as fewer people can afford them then there should be fewer of them.

Gunther: Only the ultra-rich can afford the sort of lifestyle that you'd want a butler for.


Not judging by the salaries mentioned in the article.
 
2014-06-08 03:54:07 AM

LrdPhoenix: Only logical that as fewer people can afford them then there should be fewer of them.


There are more people rich enough to afford a butler than they used to be. It's the middle class that's shrinking as more money goes towards the rich. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp.
 
2014-06-08 04:00:26 AM
www.cuttingthecarbon.co.uk
 
2014-06-08 04:01:33 AM

4.bp.blogspot.com

"Will this scrumptious repast be sufficient for your needs, sir?"

 
2014-06-08 04:05:10 AM

LrdPhoenix: Emposter: LrdPhoenix: fusillade762: Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa

Emposter: FTFA: "Thirty-five years ago," he writes, "there were only a few hundred butlers left in Britain; today there are roughly 10,000, plus thousands more abroad."

The rich have gotten a LOT richer since the 1970s and 80s. But no, I'm sure it's a TV show.

If it were income inequality, then the number of butlers should be going down as the lion's share of income goes into fewer and fewer hands.

Where did you get that idea?

Only logical that as fewer people can afford them then there should be fewer of them.


Where did you get the idea that rising income inequality means less rich people?
 
2014-06-08 04:06:39 AM
They're often confused with valets,

www.bite.ca
 
2014-06-08 04:41:37 AM
1)  having a butler would be odd,  ordering around some stranger in my home would be awkward.

2) if I did have a butler I would want one that stays put for life so it wouldn't be weird,  like an Alfred type dealie.
 
2014-06-08 04:57:11 AM

Emposter: LrdPhoenix: Emposter: LrdPhoenix: fusillade762: Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa

Emposter: FTFA: "Thirty-five years ago," he writes, "there were only a few hundred butlers left in Britain; today there are roughly 10,000, plus thousands more abroad."

The rich have gotten a LOT richer since the 1970s and 80s. But no, I'm sure it's a TV show.

If it were income inequality, then the number of butlers should be going down as the lion's share of income goes into fewer and fewer hands.

Where did you get that idea?

Only logical that as fewer people can afford them then there should be fewer of them.

Where did you get the idea that rising income inequality means less rich people?


Or more importantly/specifically, why do people always assume some even distribution?

The top 0.1% can have extra billions at the expense of the bottom 50% with or without the next top 5% growing/shrinking in numbers or wealth.

Obviously an increase in either numbers or relative wealth could result in more butler hiring. Or maybe it is all happening because of tv, as subby claims :)
 
2014-06-08 05:55:13 AM

Boo_Guy: 1)  having a butler would be odd,  ordering around some stranger in my home would be awkward.

2) if I did have a butler I would want one that stays put for life so it wouldn't be weird,  like an Alfred type dealie.


Having a butler would be too near to having a slave for my liking.
 
2014-06-08 06:32:23 AM

Smackledorfer: Emposter: LrdPhoenix: Emposter: LrdPhoenix: fusillade762: Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa

Emposter: FTFA: "Thirty-five years ago," he writes, "there were only a few hundred butlers left in Britain; today there are roughly 10,000, plus thousands more abroad."

The rich have gotten a LOT richer since the 1970s and 80s. But no, I'm sure it's a TV show.

If it were income inequality, then the number of butlers should be going down as the lion's share of income goes into fewer and fewer hands.

Where did you get that idea?

Only logical that as fewer people can afford them then there should be fewer of them.

Where did you get the idea that rising income inequality means less rich people?

Or more importantly/specifically, why do people always assume some even distribution?

The top 0.1% can have extra billions at the expense of the bottom 50% with or without the next top 5% growing/shrinking in numbers or wealth.

Obviously an increase in either numbers or relative wealth could result in more butler hiring. Or maybe it is all happening because of tv, as subby claims :)


Nobody is saying that wealth inequality is a new thing.
Indeed, the history of the industrialized West is a cyuclic record of the economic catastrophes it inevitably brings about.
Wealth inequality is a little bit like double-creme chocolate frosting.
A little bit of it is a very good thing - but eat an entire soup tureen full, and you will experience distress.
Followed by projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea
 
2014-06-08 06:36:32 AM
What, they're like interns that come home from work with you but less sleeping with them.  Just carve out a part of the basement behind the laundry room or maybe next to the pool pump and put a cot down.  Its not that hard.
 
2014-06-08 07:06:11 AM

Gunther: aerojockey: What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.

They're the head of the household staff - they order around the cooks and grooms and housemaids and so on. They're often confused with valets, who are a gentleman's personal servant in the same way that a lady's maid is a lady's personal servant. In the 20th century as the wealthy began to employ fewer servants the two jobs combined to some extent.

/read too much Wodehouse


Also, they were never as common in the States as in the UK.  Here, where the bar for "middle class" was much lower economically speaking, households tended to be run by the wife, who had a housekeeper and (maybe) a maid under her.  Large staffs like you see on Downtown Abbey were pretty rare here and generally confined to large suburban or country houses. The Vanderbilts (who were all trying to out-do each other) are about the only people I can think of who had footmen for their city house.
 
2014-06-08 07:09:59 AM

aerojockey: What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.


i'd buttle-her!

/consensual
//no r00fies
 
2014-06-08 07:10:44 AM

fusillade762: Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa


Yup because  income equality means everybody has a butler, even butlers
 
2014-06-08 07:28:45 AM

aerojockey: What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.


They were in charge of the "buttery" in large Medieval houses, which was separate from the larder or kitchen stores.  The modern equivalent would be a wine cellar, and the modern equivalent job would be a sommelier.

Think of it this way you're an Anglo Saxon lord in England, and booze is somewhat expensive.  You're going to give the key to the storeroom to the most trustworthy person you know, as you're likely not to be trusted yourself, given that you're a Anglo Saxon lord, it's the 9th century and there's nothing to do but drink.
 
2014-06-08 07:32:07 AM

aerojockey: What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.


They like to keep the kitchen tidy.
 
2014-06-08 07:36:19 AM

aerojockey: What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.


Butlers run the house and a good butler makes it look effortless.
 
2014-06-08 07:40:40 AM

Spanky McStupid: aerojockey: What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.

Butlers run the house and a good butler makes it look effortless.


They do the ordering, keep the household accounts, keep track of the plate (silver and gold, if any), make sure the silver plate is kept polished, handle the hiring and firing of the household staff (except the housekeeper), and that sort of thing.
 
2014-06-08 07:51:45 AM
Yeah no, I think Frank Reynolds had the right idea about getting a bang maid.
 
2014-06-08 07:52:16 AM

ongbok: What? No love for Benson?

[www.wired.com image 660x500]


No love for Belvedere, either

/I think fark is racist against the 80s

fifthperiodlunch.com
 
2014-06-08 08:18:11 AM
If I had a butler I'd want him to have an English accent and say things like 'quite' and 'very good sir'.
 
2014-06-08 08:19:34 AM
I'd always be afraid that they'd kill me in my sleep and steal my sh*t.
 
2014-06-08 08:39:20 AM

markfara: I'd always be afraid that they'd kill me in my sleep and steal my sh*t.


That's "children,"  the word you are thinking of is 'children.'
 
2014-06-08 08:41:05 AM
www.digitaldeliftp.com
 
2014-06-08 08:42:50 AM

uber humper: ongbok: What? No love for Benson?

[www.wired.com image 660x500]

No love for Belvedere, either

/I think fark is racist against the 80s

[fifthperiodlunch.com image 360x270]


Did Belvedere or any other one of those butlers make it to the governors mansion?
 
2014-06-08 09:00:29 AM
"/I think fark is racist against the 80s"

Mind. Blown.

/equality for all people of Temporal Displacement
 
2014-06-08 09:11:49 AM
*sigh*. As of ot weren't hard enough to find good help these days
 
2014-06-08 09:15:08 AM

aerojockey: What do butlers even do?  It's not like they have a specific job like cooks and porters and stuff.


3.bp.blogspot.com
"The butler is head of the kitchen and dining room. I keep everything tidy."
 
2014-06-08 09:18:08 AM

jso2897: Smackledorfer: Emposter: LrdPhoenix: Emposter: LrdPhoenix: fusillade762: Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with stratospheric wealth inequality, it MUST be a TV show.

/dnrtfa

Emposter: FTFA: "Thirty-five years ago," he writes, "there were only a few hundred butlers left in Britain; today there are roughly 10,000, plus thousands more abroad."

The rich have gotten a LOT richer since the 1970s and 80s. But no, I'm sure it's a TV show.

If it were income inequality, then the number of butlers should be going down as the lion's share of income goes into fewer and fewer hands.

Where did you get that idea?

Only logical that as fewer people can afford them then there should be fewer of them.

Where did you get the idea that rising income inequality means less rich people?

Or more importantly/specifically, why do people always assume some even distribution?

The top 0.1% can have extra billions at the expense of the bottom 50% with or without the next top 5% growing/shrinking in numbers or wealth.

Obviously an increase in either numbers or relative wealth could result in more butler hiring. Or maybe it is all happening because of tv, as subby claims :)

Nobody is saying that wealth inequality is a new thing.
Indeed, the history of the industrialized West is a cyuclic record of the economic catastrophes it inevitably brings about.
Wealth inequality is a little bit like double-creme chocolate frosting.
A little bit of it is a very good thing - but eat an entire soup tureen full, and you will experience distress.
Followed by projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhea


Respond to the wrong person?
 
2014-06-08 09:48:27 AM
And the Spanish Flu. Let's bring that back too!
 
2014-06-08 10:06:30 AM
A lot of the wealthy from Russia, India and the Middle East might account for the increase in butlers in the UK. Close examination of the employment conditions, however, might conclude that they are actually slaves. Occasionally, these types get busted in the US but usually it is for abuse of a maid, not butler.
 
2014-06-08 10:08:56 AM

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