trevzie: Imagine if bystanders had concealed carries instead of pepper spray. It's a rare person who will take pepper spray to a gun fight. It worked out in this case, thankfully.However, takedowns like this would be more common if people had the tools to do it.
4seasons85!: One of my friends got married at 19. They are celebrating their ten year anniversary next year. Granted her only dream was to be a good Christian housewife. He's in the military. She's content.
trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: You really have to reach to come up with a scenario where it's better that the bystanders don't have guns.Tell us more. Please.I will when someone more capable of defending their argument arisesYour argument sucks. People with guns that want to shoot someone will find crowds and bystanders. They will enter classrooms with people hiding under desks. In a college, a movie theater, or a shopping mall, bystanders are crouched behind walls hiding. This shooting happened in a college lobby next to classrooms during a school day.This shooting was solved quickly without another gunman. Pray tell how ten armed bystanders shooting this guy would have been better.The point is that all those people hiding under desks don't have concealed carries and that is why shootings often have so many casualties before the cops can show up. If there were 10 concealed carries this shooting would have ended how it did, early.Just because this one happened to end with mace doesn't mean it is a likely resolution.Number of mass shootings stopped with mace: 1Number of mass shootings stopped with guns or threat of guns: every single other one
UsikFark: Pray tell how ten armed bystanders shooting this guy would have been better.
fluffy2097: mekki: I am waiting for the story where a gunman is taken down by the archery team.Thanks to zero tolerance, it will never happen. Gun free zones? Also bow free zones. For the children, you see./You can watch pro wrestling if you want to see people get hit in the head with a chair.//If you want your gun free zones, and onerous legislation on legal gun owners, you should have to wait for the cops to come save your ass, since you have abdicated your ability to defend yourself to the police.
Secret Master of All Flatulence: mekki: Between this and the deputy at the courthouse, I see this as a tipping point. People are going to start fighting back using any means they can get.Um, hate to point this out, but it's not a new thing. In fact, several shootings have been stopped by people going to their vehicles and retrieving their personal sidearms, and then using them to take down the shooter. Some involved staff, some involved, (oh, how terrible!) STUDENTS who had guns legally in their vehicles.
Ivan the Tolerable: profplump: I'm relatively confident that giving dumb, scared people guns isn't a reliable way to reduce the amount of gun injuries.i might start to agree with you the day they start giving IQ tests to prospective police candidates.
Bit'O'Gristle: Ybarra is on suicide watch in jailOn Friday his lawyer said he was sorry for what he didHmm....sorry for what you did? I'm thinking you're sorry you didn't kill more before someone owned your punk coward ass. And please, ask the guards not to watch you too closely on the "suicide watch", do the world a favor and exit it now./Thanks, the World.
mediablitz: Sop your idiotic confirmation bias based opinion is idiotic?
Pokey.Clyde: dookdookdook: In other news, who the hell gets married when they're 22? (or ever, for that matter?)Plenty of people do, numbnuts. Just because nobody will touch your "special area", doesn't mean everyone else has that same problem.
ravenlore: rkiller1: ravenlore: rkiller1: ravenlore: dookdookdook: In other news, who the hell gets married when they're 22? (or ever, for that matter?)I got married when i was 22./'course, i've been divorced now longer than i was with himYou sound proud of both events.Neither proud nor ashamed. It is what it is./i actually sound oldIt was the "of course" after the slashee thingee, as if divorce is an assured post-wedding event.But it sounds like you're at-peace. Peace.it was more intended as an afterthought/aside.
It's Me Bender: Yeah, but if he'd had concealed carry it would have saved us all the expense of a trial and lifetime incarceration for the nutjob.(concealed carry is probably not an option in Seattle except for government workers and the rich and the criminal underclass)
fluffy2097: mekki: People are going to start fighting back using any means they can getI thought that more guns didn't solve anything.
dookdookdook: In other news, who the hell gets married when they're 22? (or ever, for that matter?)
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