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2014-06-07 10:08:49 PM  

dookdookdook: In other news, who the hell gets married when they're 22? (or ever, for that matter?)


Quite possibly not the guy in the article. Yes he's referred to as being 22 at one point, but in photo captions he's now 26. That's pretty standard down at The Daily Fail.
 
2014-06-07 10:12:52 PM  

trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: You really have to reach to come up with a scenario where it's better that the bystanders don't have guns.

Tell us more. Please.

I will when someone more capable of defending their argument arises

Your argument sucks. People with guns that want to shoot someone will find crowds and bystanders. They will enter classrooms with people hiding under desks. In a college, a movie theater, or a shopping mall, bystanders are crouched behind walls hiding. This shooting happened in a college lobby next to classrooms during a school day.
This shooting was solved quickly without another gunman. Pray tell how ten armed bystanders shooting this guy would have been better.

The point is that all those people hiding under desks don't have concealed carries and that is why shootings often have so many casualties before the cops can show up. If there were 10 concealed carries this shooting would have ended how it did, early.

Just because this one happened to end with mace doesn't mean it is a likely resolution.

Number of mass shootings stopped with mace: 1

Number of mass shootings stopped with guns or threat of guns: every single other one


Number of mass shootings stopped by gun nuts with assault weapons strapped to their back while they're eating a burrito?
 
2014-06-07 10:13:21 PM  
good on that dude.

i wish life would hand me the opportunity to risk my own
to help another.
 
2014-06-07 10:25:57 PM  

dookdookdook: Pokey.Clyde: dookdookdook: In other news, who the hell gets married when they're 22? (or ever, for that matter?)

Plenty of people do, numbnuts. Just because nobody will touch your "special area", doesn't mean everyone else has that same problem.

I was mainly referring to people who don't subscribe to a repressive religious dogma that severely restricts their sexual freedom until they've entered into a life-altering legal contract and paid out the asshole for a giant, lavish ceremony with all their friends and family.

On the other hand, if you're a desperately horny 18-22 year old who simply isn't permitted to have any "special area" contact until you've blown $25,000 just to parade your Special Friend out in front of everyone you've ever known and entered into a legal contract that (depending on the state, etc.) could easily result in you losing half your shiat if you ever stuck your dick in *anyone* else, I can half understand how you could be driven to such foolish decisions.


Ha. That's the best part. My husband and I are atheist that got married at the courthouse and our honeymoon was a camping trip to the local lake. Thankfully neither of us were virgins when we got married either. That sounds incredibly awkward.
 
2014-06-07 10:26:42 PM  
i.dailymail.co.uk

This needs to become the mandatory 24/7 prison uniform all over the US. It should end just about where the photo cuts off...No pants.

Let's see you try to act tough when you look like a lady caveman.
 
2014-06-07 10:30:01 PM  

Great_Milenko: trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: You really have to reach to come up with a scenario where it's better that the bystanders don't have guns.

Tell us more. Please.

I will when someone more capable of defending their argument arises

Your argument sucks. People with guns that want to shoot someone will find crowds and bystanders. They will enter classrooms with people hiding under desks. In a college, a movie theater, or a shopping mall, bystanders are crouched behind walls hiding. This shooting happened in a college lobby next to classrooms during a school day.
This shooting was solved quickly without another gunman. Pray tell how ten armed bystanders shooting this guy would have been better.

The point is that all those people hiding under desks don't have concealed carries and that is why shootings often have so many casualties before the cops can show up. If there were 10 concealed carries this shooting would have ended how it did, early.

Just because this one happened to end with mace doesn't mean it is a likely resolution.

Number of mass shootings stopped with mace: 1

Number of mass shootings stopped with guns or threat of guns: every single other one

Number of mass shootings stopped by gun nuts with assault weapons strapped to their back while they're eating a burrito?


One if I had my way
 
2014-06-07 10:30:42 PM  
Dear Santa:

# 1 ea. T-38 commute vehicle.
# 1 ea. Falcon 9.1 R
# 1 ea. Dragon Mun

Crew and ground support for the above plus training.
 
2014-06-07 10:31:56 PM  
lostcat:

Let's see you try to act tough when you look like a lady caveman.

Hey the moving blanket look is coming back.
 
2014-06-07 10:44:00 PM  
I'd like to think I'd react like this guy did, given the situation, but I'd also like to never see my preferences tested.

(Gun-owner, grew up with a military dad, well versed in the use of firearms, and the limitations of firearms)

I know I'd be more prone to act with a non-lethal weapon than with a firearm, because you only have control of a bullet until it leaves the barrel. That being said, the kid thought fast, waited for an opening and saved a lot of lives. Good on him, May he have a long and happy life, and listen to his wife tell his great-grandkids about how ole pop-pop is an honest-to-God Hero.
 
2014-06-07 10:46:20 PM  

ontariolightning: And here in Canada pepper spray and mace are both illegal to own. You may have deer or dog spray but you can only walk around in the wilderness with it. Carrying it in a city is illegal.


Really? What do paranoid women take out of their purses and fiddle with when I get into the elevator with them?

/Not a rapist
//No, honest. Wouldn't dream of it.
///Just creepy looking, I guess.
////I like slashes.
 
2014-06-07 10:50:18 PM  

trevzie: Great_Milenko: trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: You really have to reach to come up with a scenario where it's better that the bystanders don't have guns.

Tell us more. Please.

I will when someone more capable of defending their argument arises

Your argument sucks. People with guns that want to shoot someone will find crowds and bystanders. They will enter classrooms with people hiding under desks. In a college, a movie theater, or a shopping mall, bystanders are crouched behind walls hiding. This shooting happened in a college lobby next to classrooms during a school day.
This shooting was solved quickly without another gunman. Pray tell how ten armed bystanders shooting this guy would have been better.

The point is that all those people hiding under desks don't have concealed carries and that is why shootings often have so many casualties before the cops can show up. If there were 10 concealed carries this shooting would have ended how it did, early.

Just because this one happened to end with mace doesn't mean it is a likely resolution.

Number of mass shootings stopped with mace: 1

Number of mass shootings stopped with guns or threat of guns: every single other one

Number of mass shootings stopped by gun nuts with assault weapons strapped to their back while they're eating a burrito?

One if I had my way


And that's why people don't trust you and your ilk.  You're itching to legally murder somebody.  Pathetic.
 
2014-06-07 10:53:00 PM  
Imokwiththis.jog
 
2014-06-07 10:59:39 PM  

Jae0o0: dookdookdook: In other news, who the hell gets married when they're 22? (or ever, for that matter?)

I got married at 19, husband was 21. Made it 11 years so far. We wernt badasses killer stoppers though.


One of my friends got married at 19. They are celebrating their ten year anniversary next year. Granted her only dream was to be a good Christian housewife. He's in the military. She's content.
 
2014-06-07 11:02:47 PM  

4seasons85!: One of my friends got married at 19. They are celebrating their ten year anniversary next year. Granted her only dream was to be a good Christian housewife. He's in the military. She's content.


She's getting boned by some other dude on-base.
 
2014-06-07 11:05:00 PM  
What's the score in good guys with guns versus good guys with pepper spray and balls?
 
2014-06-07 11:07:56 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: trevzie: Great_Milenko: trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: UsikFark: trevzie: You really have to reach to come up with a scenario where it's better that the bystanders don't have guns.

Tell us more. Please.

I will when someone more capable of defending their argument arises

Your argument sucks. People with guns that want to shoot someone will find crowds and bystanders. They will enter classrooms with people hiding under desks. In a college, a movie theater, or a shopping mall, bystanders are crouched behind walls hiding. This shooting happened in a college lobby next to classrooms during a school day.
This shooting was solved quickly without another gunman. Pray tell how ten armed bystanders shooting this guy would have been better.

The point is that all those people hiding under desks don't have concealed carries and that is why shootings often have so many casualties before the cops can show up. If there were 10 concealed carries this shooting would have ended how it did, early.

Just because this one happened to end with mace doesn't mean it is a likely resolution.

Number of mass shootings stopped with mace: 1

Number of mass shootings stopped with guns or threat of guns: every single other one

Number of mass shootings stopped by gun nuts with assault weapons strapped to their back while they're eating a burrito?

One if I had my way

And that's why people don't trust you and your ilk.  You're itching to legally murder somebody.  Pathetic.


Autistic much? It was a joke
 
2014-06-07 11:08:34 PM  
This seems to be the part of the story that people are skipping:

He was reloading his shotgun when Meis, a volunteer security guard, saw an opening.

This is why "military style rifles" and high-capacity magazines and drums are different from normal hunting weapons. A guy who has to stop after 5 or 6 shots to reload one shell at a time is not as dangerous as a guy who can fire 30 rounds and then slap a new magazine in as he looks for more targets.

Assuming you're not out to mass murder people to get on the news, the only reason you need to carry an AR-15 into Target is because you have a small penis and/or some idea that if the government really WAS after you that you could somehow shoot your way out in a blaze of gunfire without hitting a single innocent bystander.
 
2014-06-07 11:08:50 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: This dude had a shotgun and lost to a guy with pepper spray, the courthouse shooter was armed for the zombie Apocalypse and lasted all of 40 seconds. Have we run out of competent mass murderers and are now dipping into the minor leagues to bring up the Shoe Bomber-level killers?


People think it's easy because the TV tells them. Most assailants have poorly thought out plans. The Lanzas and the Holmes are the rare exception.
 
2014-06-07 11:29:02 PM  

Aeonite: Assuming you're not out to mass murder people to get on the news, the only reason you need to carry an AR-15 into Target is because you have a small penis and/or some idea that if the government really WAS after you that you could somehow shoot your way out in a blaze of gunfire without hitting a single innocent bystander.


Why is it that people who are scared shiatless of guns always have penis on the brain?
 
2014-06-07 11:30:59 PM  
So, the solution to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with...pepper spray, and the gumption to tackle him? Okay, then.
 
2014-06-07 11:31:12 PM  

zarker: Come on, fark, where's my "just kidding, he was arrested for assaulting the guy"?


Word! I really thought we were headed down that path from the start of the headline, this being the website that we all know and love.
 
2014-06-07 11:31:59 PM  

It's Me Bender: Yeah, but if he'd had concealed carry it would have saved us all the expense of a trial and lifetime incarceration for the nutjob.

(concealed carry is probably not an option in Seattle except for government workers and the rich and the criminal underclass)


You'd be wrong. Washington and Oregon have very expansive "Shall Issue" laws.

But I'm betting that won't make an impression on you. Conservatives tend to get whiny when confronted with reality
 
2014-06-07 11:32:35 PM  
Mentalpatient87:

So, you're just going to repeatedly stamp your feet and cry "MOAR GUNS MOAR GUNS MOAR GUNS!" like some kind of fool? Adorable.

It's the NRA Way
 
2014-06-07 11:39:24 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: Aeonite: Assuming you're not out to mass murder people to get on the news, the only reason you need to carry an AR-15 into Target is because you have a small penis and/or some idea that if the government really WAS after you that you could somehow shoot your way out in a blaze of gunfire without hitting a single innocent bystander.

Why is it that people who are scared shiatless of guns always have penis on the brain?


Every Fark thread needs at least one penis mention. Now we're up to four. Thanks for the help.
 
2014-06-07 11:39:46 PM  

Spiralmonkey: mekki: fluffy2097: mekki: People are going to start fighting back using any means they can get

I thought that more guns didn't solve anything.

But it won't be just more guns. It will be like what this kid did with a thing of pepper spray. I think people will be using anything they can get their hands on. I am waiting for the story where a gunman is taken down by the archery team. That will be...something.

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It certainly would...


I was waiting for this pic from Arrow.  Leaving satisfied.
 
2014-06-07 11:43:29 PM  

davynelson: i wish life would hand me the opportunity to risk my own to help another.


Be careful what you wish for.
 
2014-06-07 11:46:04 PM  

mediablitz: StanTheMan: zarker: Come on, fark, where's my "just kidding, he was arrested for assaulting the guy"?

Yeah, I, too, was waiting for the "and was sued for civil rights violations because racist." It is the left coast, after all.

Sop your idiotic confirmation bias based opinion is idiotic?

There's a shocker.


Confirmation bias is the only reason I use the innerwebs! (Well that, and some amateur Aussie pron, and the occasional sports score update.) Come on, man.
 
2014-06-07 11:47:42 PM  
Oh boy. Just what he needs: all 12 dessert bowls, 8 of which will never be used.

/Or is it just me with this problem?
 
2014-06-08 12:09:19 AM  
The 12 dessert bowls is a ritual gift.

Nobody expects you to actually use them.

/did you ever notice that the bottom six "bowls" aren't actually in there?
 
2014-06-08 12:11:21 AM  
Next week they will be comparing him to Richard Jewel, and an Obama supporter.
 
2014-06-08 12:16:12 AM  

UsikFark: trevzie: Imagine if bystanders had concealed carries instead of pepper spray. It's a rare person who will take pepper spray to a gun fight. It worked out in this case, thankfully.

However, takedowns like this would be more common if people had the tools to do it.

Bullshiat. farking bullshiat. With pepper spray you can lay on the trigger. You can spray down the shooter and a hostage with pepper spray. You can use pepper spray when unsure of your target.

This is why a "good guy with a gun" is a complete trash argument, you're still going to have to get the perp on the ground in a crowded area when you yourself are probably shaking with fear.


Exactly.   There have been 0 mass shootings stopped by civilians with guns.  Meanwhile, this guy managed to do it safely (for those around) with a non-lethal alternative.

It just sheds more light on the fact that concealed carry is unnecessary for personal defense when non-lethal alternatives such as mace, pepper spray, and tasers are available.
 
2014-06-08 12:19:51 AM  
All you people who wonder while hi capacity clips need to be banned, this is why. Because the formaly responisible gun owner™ was taken down while trying to reload. You think that would have happened if he was using one of those assualt style 30 round clips? Not near as likely, and would have been a lot more people dead. Or those giant round 100 bullet clips all the Rambo wanna-bes cream their camo pants over? The gunman could have taken out the entire school with one of those.

The only people who need that many bullets are soldiers. Not even regular police need them. They should be taking careful aimed shots anyway. Having almost a whole box of ammo in your clip just encourages them to should wildly and hit bystanders, and those are highly trained cops.

What do 'normal' people need that many bullets in a gun for? Hunting? If you can't hit your target by the follow up shot, you shouldn't be hunting. Target shooting? Isn't the purpose of target shooting to focus on the fundidmentals and get better? You're not on a time limit, so who cares if you have to reload every few shots. You don't like reloading, buy a few more clips. Focus on shooting properly and not throwing bullets down range. Most responsible gun owners™ need more time doing this anyway.

Competition shooting? So, change the format. Instead of shooting at 10 targets, just shoot at 5 sets of two. You can even incorporate clip changes into the competition to see who is better at it. Personal protection? How often are you going to be attacked by a squad sized element of gunmen? Usually it is just one person. Maybe two.

So what do you need 20 bullets in your Glock for? I'm not gonna make the argument that drawing a gun is more likely to get you killed when all the person wants is your wallet, and that no amount of money is worth a person's life. Even the small time thug robbing you because of social enequality. You all know this already. But in a true life and death situation (if you are too impatient to hide and wait for the cops whose job it is to protect you) you wouldn't need more than two bullets. If you know that your ammo supply is limited, you'll take the extra half second to make an aimed shot, and not hit an innocent bystander. You'd also make damn sure of the target/ Maybe due to lack of training and high stress, you might need an extra few rounds.

That's why all clips should have no more than 5 rounds. And it should be a law that you can only have one clip on you. You don't need that shoulder holster that carries 4 spare clips. You're not in a warzone, chief.
I have no problem with people using guns in a safe manner for sport or hunting. But think of how many lives could be spared for what would only be a minor inconvience on a few people's occasional day. Is a school full of dead children really worth it so you don't have to take 3 seconds to change clips while you're shooting at empty beer bottles?

I didn't think so.
 
2014-06-08 12:25:52 AM  

StanTheMan: DebinCO: One of the many reasons I love my Seattle.

Come for the vigilantes, stay for the decriminalization of illegal aliens and drugs that infest the streets.


Ha ha ha! Good one!
 
2014-06-08 12:28:33 AM  

MythDragon: All you people who wonder while hi capacity clips need to be banned, this is why. Because the formaly responisible gun owner™ was taken down while trying to reload. You think that would have happened if he was using one of those assualt style 30 round clips? Not near as likely, and would have been a lot more people dead. Or those giant round 100 bullet clips all the Rambo wanna-bes cream their camo pants over? The gunman could have taken out the entire school with one of those.

The only people who need that many bullets are soldiers. Not even regular police need them. They should be taking careful aimed shots anyway. Having almost a whole box of ammo in your clip just encourages them to should wildly and hit bystanders, and those are highly trained cops.

What do 'normal' people need that many bullets in a gun for? Hunting? If you can't hit your target by the follow up shot, you shouldn't be hunting. Target shooting? Isn't the purpose of target shooting to focus on the fundidmentals and get better? You're not on a time limit, so who cares if you have to reload every few shots. You don't like reloading, buy a few more clips. Focus on shooting properly and not throwing bullets down range. Most responsible gun owners™ need more time doing this anyway.

Competition shooting? So, change the format. Instead of shooting at 10 targets, just shoot at 5 sets of two. You can even incorporate clip changes into the competition to see who is better at it. Personal protection? How often are you going to be attacked by a squad sized element of gunmen? Usually it is just one person. Maybe two.

So what do you need 20 bullets in your Glock for? I'm not gonna make the argument that drawing a gun is more likely to get you killed when all the person wants is your wallet, and that no amount of money is worth a person's life. Even the small time thug robbing you because of social enequality. You all know this already. But in a true life and death situation (if you are too impatient to hi ...


Laws like you propose are just like locks on a door. They only keep the honest people out.
 
2014-06-08 12:37:01 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: UsikFark: trevzie: Imagine if bystanders had concealed carries instead of pepper spray. It's a rare person who will take pepper spray to a gun fight. It worked out in this case, thankfully.

However, takedowns like this would be more common if people had the tools to do it.

Bullshiat. farking bullshiat. With pepper spray you can lay on the trigger. You can spray down the shooter and a hostage with pepper spray. You can use pepper spray when unsure of your target.

This is why a "good guy with a gun" is a complete trash argument, you're still going to have to get the perp on the ground in a crowded area when you yourself are probably shaking with fear.

Exactly.   There have been 0 mass shootings stopped by civilians with guns.  Meanwhile, this guy managed to do it safely (for those around) with a non-lethal alternative.

It just sheds more light on the fact that concealed carry is unnecessary for personal defense when non-lethal alternatives such as mace, pepper spray, and tasers are available.


And exactly how can you or anyone else honestly and with all absolutes removed state this how? Are you sure? Is there a real citation for that? If there is, can they honestly state this is a absolute fact? Can your statement be proven?
 
2014-06-08 12:37:13 AM  

kerrigand: Laws like you propose are just like locks on a door. They only keep the honest people out.


That reminds me, how come so many GUN NUTS will spend thousands on weapons "in case of home invasion" and still got sh*t locks on the front door?

On another note, shooter has a history including two involuntary commitments. How the fnck was he still allowed to buy a shotgun?
 
2014-06-08 12:38:16 AM  

mekki: fluffy2097: mekki: People are going to start fighting back using any means they can get

I thought that more guns didn't solve anything.

But it won't be just more guns. It will be like what this kid did with a thing of pepper spray. I think people will be using anything they can get their hands on. I am waiting for the story where a gunman is taken down by the archery team. That will be...something.


i115.photobucket.com
unamused by your remarks
 
2014-06-08 12:39:43 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kerrigand: Laws like you propose are just like locks on a door. They only keep the honest people out.

That reminds me, how come so many GUN NUTS will spend thousands on weapons "in case of home invasion" and still got sh*t locks on the front door?

On another note, shooter has a history including two involuntary commitments. How the fnck was he still allowed to buy a shotgun?


Why should anyone have to spend so much as a dime for a lock? They shouldn't have to, should they?
 
2014-06-08 12:40:01 AM  

kerrigand: TuteTibiImperes: UsikFark: trevzie: Imagine if bystanders had concealed carries instead of pepper spray. It's a rare person who will take pepper spray to a gun fight. It worked out in this case, thankfully.

However, takedowns like this would be more common if people had the tools to do it.

Bullshiat. farking bullshiat. With pepper spray you can lay on the trigger. You can spray down the shooter and a hostage with pepper spray. You can use pepper spray when unsure of your target.

This is why a "good guy with a gun" is a complete trash argument, you're still going to have to get the perp on the ground in a crowded area when you yourself are probably shaking with fear.

Exactly.   There have been 0 mass shootings stopped by civilians with guns.  Meanwhile, this guy managed to do it safely (for those around) with a non-lethal alternative.

It just sheds more light on the fact that concealed carry is unnecessary for personal defense when non-lethal alternatives such as mace, pepper spray, and tasers are available.

And exactly how can you or anyone else honestly and with all absolutes removed state this how? Are you sure? Is there a real citation for that? If there is, can they honestly state this is a absolute fact? Can your statement be proven?


Easy enough to disprove if false. All you have to do is provide one example.
Go ahead.
 
2014-06-08 12:40:26 AM  
Good for him! But did any of the well-wishers give the couple cans of pepper spray? He probably needs to replace his.

/Probably would be a good spokesman for the company, too.
 
2014-06-08 12:44:04 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kerrigand: TuteTibiImperes: UsikFark: trevzie: Imagine if bystanders had concealed carries instead of pepper spray. It's a rare person who will take pepper spray to a gun fight. It worked out in this case, thankfully.

However, takedowns like this would be more common if people had the tools to do it.

Bullshiat. farking bullshiat. With pepper spray you can lay on the trigger. You can spray down the shooter and a hostage with pepper spray. You can use pepper spray when unsure of your target.

This is why a "good guy with a gun" is a complete trash argument, you're still going to have to get the perp on the ground in a crowded area when you yourself are probably shaking with fear.

Exactly.   There have been 0 mass shootings stopped by civilians with guns.  Meanwhile, this guy managed to do it safely (for those around) with a non-lethal alternative.

It just sheds more light on the fact that concealed carry is unnecessary for personal defense when non-lethal alternatives such as mace, pepper spray, and tasers are available.

And exactly how can you or anyone else honestly and with all absolutes removed state this how? Are you sure? Is there a real citation for that? If there is, can they honestly state this is a absolute fact? Can your statement be proven?

Easy enough to disprove if false. All you have to do is provide one example.
Go ahead.


You first. You as well as I, both no it can't be proven, one way or the other. Or do you have other evidence?
 
2014-06-08 12:46:19 AM  
kerrigand: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kerrigand: TuteTibiImperes: UsikFark: trevzie: Imagine if bystanders had concealed carries instead of pepper spray. It's a rare person who will take pepper spray to a gun fight. It worked out in this case, thankfully.

However, takedowns like this would be more common if people had the tools to do it.

Bullshiat. farking bullshiat. With pepper spray you can lay on the trigger. You can spray down the shooter and a hostage with pepper spray. You can use pepper spray when unsure of your target.

This is why a "good guy with a gun" is a complete trash argument, you're still going to have to get the perp on the ground in a crowded area when you yourself are probably shaking with fear.

Exactly.   There have been 0 mass shootings stopped by civilians with guns.  Meanwhile, this guy managed to do it safely (for those around) with a non-lethal alternative.

It just sheds more light on the fact that concealed carry is unnecessary for personal defense when non-lethal alternatives such as mace, pepper spray, and tasers are available.

And exactly how can you or anyone else honestly and with all absolutes removed state this how? Are you sure? Is there a real citation for that? If there is, can they honestly state this is a absolute fact? Can your statement be proven?

Easy enough to disprove if false. All you have to do is provide one example.
Go ahead.

You first. You as well as I, both no know it can't be proven, one way or the other. Or do you have other evidence?

FTFMAY
 
2014-06-08 12:46:27 AM  
Thank fark this devolved into another farking gun thread.
 
2014-06-08 12:52:31 AM  

kerrigand: You first. You as well as I, both no it can't be proven, one way or the other. Or do you have other evidence?


As expected, you fail at logic. One case of conceal/carry stopping a mass shooter disproves the statement.
 
2014-06-08 12:56:39 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kerrigand: You first. You as well as I, both no it can't be proven, one way or the other. Or do you have other evidence?

As expected, you fail at logic. One case of conceal/carry stopping a mass shooter disproves the statement.


No, the logic is just fine, all you have to do is prove one case one way or another. You can't, just as well as I can't. Because if a shooter was or wasn't stopped, who was to know it?
 
2014-06-08 01:00:02 AM  

kerrigand: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kerrigand: You first. You as well as I, both no it can't be proven, one way or the other. Or do you have other evidence?

As expected, you fail at logic. One case of conceal/carry stopping a mass shooter disproves the statement.

No, the logic is just fine, all you have to do is prove one case one way or another. You can't, just as well as I can't. Because if a shooter was or wasn't stopped, who was to know it?


I'm sure you impress your buddies down at mcd's guzzling free coffee but you're just embarrassing yourself here.

Any Californians know why shooter was allowed to buy?
 
2014-06-08 01:02:05 AM  
GUn threads make baby Jesus cry.
 
2014-06-08 01:05:20 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kerrigand: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kerrigand: You first. You as well as I, both no it can't be proven, one way or the other. Or do you have other evidence?

As expected, you fail at logic. One case of conceal/carry stopping a mass shooter disproves the statement.

No, the logic is just fine, all you have to do is prove one case one way or another. You can't, just as well as I can't. Because if a shooter was or wasn't stopped, who was to know it?

I'm sure you impress your buddies down at mcd's guzzling free coffee but you're just embarrassing yourself here.

Any Californians know why shooter was allowed to buy?


Ad-homs, really? So you can't prove or disprove it?

Appreciate you trying to debate it rationally.
 
2014-06-08 01:16:59 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kerrigand: You first. You as well as I, both no it can't be proven, one way or the other. Or do you have other evidence?

As expected, you fail at logic. One case of conceal/carry stopping a mass shooter disproves the statement.


http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/mass-killings-stopped-by-armed-ci tizens.html?m=1
 
2014-06-08 01:24:09 AM  

MIRV888: GUn threads make baby Jesus cry.


But not as much as pepper spray threads. Those really sting!
 
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