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(Chicago Trib)   Chicago, a city known for its ability to make every single food perfectly, presents a guide on grilling the perfect steak. A-1 mandatory, of course   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 184
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2014-06-07 11:48:36 AM
The only appropriate response at a restaurant when asked the question "Do you need steak sauce?" is "I better not."
 
2014-06-07 12:08:56 PM
Chicago, a city known for its ability to make every single food perfectly inferior pizza.

/ftfy
 
2014-06-07 12:53:44 PM
A1?!

i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-07 12:55:38 PM
Dad likes his steaks cooked until they're gray all the way through. He doesn't deserve steak.
 
2014-06-07 01:00:06 PM
The key is shutting off the microwave's rotating plate
 
2014-06-07 02:02:31 PM
Chicago does have some great steakhouses.

That is all
 
2014-06-07 02:03:36 PM
Deep dish puke steak, just like their "pizza".
 
2014-06-07 02:05:06 PM
Can't they get anything right?
 
2014-06-07 02:05:19 PM
The only thing steaks need are salt and pepper.
 
2014-06-07 02:05:41 PM
Besides the murder.
 
2014-06-07 02:05:45 PM

ArkAngel: The only appropriate response at a restaurant when asked the question "Do you need steak sauce?" is "I better not."


EXACTLY!

A1's sole purpose is to disguise horrible meat. Though it also reminds you with every single chew you just wasted perfectly good money on a crap meal...
 
2014-06-07 02:07:09 PM
Thanks subby!

That is a great guide.

I am going to print it out and use it to tomorrow when I grill!
 
2014-06-07 02:07:51 PM
I enjoy a wide spectrum of pizza styles and would not venture to say that any one is superior to the rest.
 
2014-06-07 02:09:23 PM
Agood steak needs no sauce, but damn I do love the taste of A1.
 
2014-06-07 02:09:33 PM
Apart from my Dad, I've never seen anyone use A1. Is it a regional thing?
 
2014-06-07 02:09:39 PM
If you have to put steak sauce on your steak then the steak isn't worth eating. You're trying to hide the taste of bad meat.
 
2014-06-07 02:09:52 PM
I see no one here or subby read the article.
 
2014-06-07 02:10:32 PM

ArkAngel: The only appropriate response at a restaurant when asked the question "Do you need steak sauce?" is "I better not."


Exactly. Asking for steak sauce (or any other condiment) is an insult to the chef. Steak should be able to be eaten on its own.

Saborlas: Dad likes his steaks cooked until they're gray all the way through. He doesn't deserve steak.


Steak should be bloody. If the juice running out of it isn't red, it's too well done.
 
2014-06-07 02:14:16 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: I enjoy a wide spectrum of pizza styles and would not venture to say that any one is superior to the rest.



So true.  I lean towards a coal-fired oven margharita w/ tomato slices, but have had some really good pan pizzas w/ whole wheat crust.
 
2014-06-07 02:15:24 PM
I like HP steak sauce even with very good steaks.  A1 sauce is gross.
 
2014-06-07 02:16:03 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: I enjoy a wide spectrum of pizza styles and would not venture to say that any one is superior to the rest.


Shut up!  You can only like ONE TYPE OF ANY ONE THING!
 
2014-06-07 02:18:13 PM

Shazam999: Wasilla Hillbilly: I enjoy a wide spectrum of pizza styles and would not venture to say that any one is superior to the rest.

Shut up!  You can only like ONE TYPE OF ANY ONE THING!


And it better be the one that I like.
 
2014-06-07 02:18:34 PM
CSB -

I was at a fancy steakhouse in Vegas. The waiter brings out my perfectly cooked medium rare porterhouse steak and places it in front of me, and asks if there's anything else I need. So being the pompous ass that I am, I said "yes, ketchup'. He shot me a look like I had just insulted his mother and said "REALLY?"  And i replied "of course not ... just kidding!" hahaha and a laugh was had by all at the table, except the waiter who treated us like crap for the rest of the meal.

/CSB
 
2014-06-07 02:20:45 PM
A1 is Worcestershire sauce with ketchup and lemon juice.

A good steak needs a fork.
 
2014-06-07 02:21:32 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The key is shutting off the microwave's rotating plate


Not saying I got trolled by this, but the simple act of imagining a universe in which someone would say this in earnest caused a small part of my brain to die.
 
2014-06-07 02:21:59 PM

mikemoto: Chicago, a city known for its ability to make every single food perfectly inferior pizza.

/ftfy


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2014-06-07 02:24:15 PM

Shazam999: I like HP steak sauce even with very good steaks.  A1 sauce is gross.


I was once provided with HP Sauce on the side of my steak at a Gordon Ramsay place in Vegas. HP now has a permanent place in my kitchen.
 
2014-06-07 02:25:44 PM
A1, well la tee daa, I'm happy with hunts ketchup thank you very much...

//bet you park your car in the "garage" too...
 
2014-06-07 02:26:06 PM
...and if you use propane to grill your steak, you're doing it wrong.
 
2014-06-07 02:27:12 PM
A steak not needing sauce does not mean A1 isn't also awesome.  I dip my fries in it.  Big thick, steak fries.
 
2014-06-07 02:28:16 PM
An admission:

I grew up poor so we used A-1 when we had steak, but I didn't get why people on TV made such a big deal out of steak.

Then when I was older and went to a real steak house, I got what everybody meant.

Good steak, as noted above, should have salt, pepper, and maybe a little thyme or some olive oil.  That's it.  And ALWAYS underestimate the cooking time.  You can always put a steak back on the fire, but you can't take the doneness away.

Complicated doesn't always equal = good eats.  That's my biggest problem with Alton Brown.  His concept for a grilled cheese on cook smart horrified me.
 
2014-06-07 02:30:40 PM

CruJones: A steak not needing sauce does not mean A1 isn't also awesome.  I dip my fries in it.  Big thick, steak fries.


I'm gonna blow your mind.

1 cup of Mayo
1 cup of BBQ sauce (Sweet Baby Rays or something that's smoky and sweet)
1 teaspoon chipotle powder.

Mix.  Let sit in fridge for 30-60 mins

Dip fries into.
 
2014-06-07 02:31:03 PM
One time I ordered a "filet" at a diner (that usually cooks steaks and pork chops quite well) and it turned out to be one of those "steaks" they paste together from other cuts that you have cook.

A1 saved the day that day.
 
2014-06-07 02:33:00 PM

danknerd: ...and if you use propane to grill your steak, you're doing it wrong.


I have a four year old so I prefer not to deal with the danger and the mess of a charcoal grill.  Sorry, a majority of high-end steakhouses don't use charcoal.

You wanna use charcoal for BBQ, that's fine.  But you're not BBQing a steak, you're grilling it.  The time the steak should be on there (depending on the cut) should not be enough time to see the difference between charcoal and propane.
 
2014-06-07 02:34:05 PM

dforkus: A1, well la tee daa, I'm happy with hunts ketchup Heinz 57 sauce, thank you very much...


danknerd: ...and if you use propane to grill your steak, you're doing it wrong.



Now I'm having flashbacks of eating at my grandparents house for Easter, when I was a kid.

/Oh, you want Med-rare? Have a nice well-done one, instead.
//Blech...
///Couldn't we have just had a nice ham?
 
2014-06-07 02:36:19 PM
Unrelated, sorta: Best steakhouse I've ever seen to is Steakhouse 85 in New Brunswick, NJ.  They do some seriously wicked off-the-menu stuff I can't talk about, but the things the chef does with creamed spinach and their thick cut bacon...

*eyes roll back into head*
 
2014-06-07 02:37:50 PM

danknerd: ...and if you use propane to grill your steak, you're doing it wrong.


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2014-06-07 02:39:54 PM

MattyFridays: An admission:

I grew up poor so we used A-1 when we had steak, but I didn't get why people on TV made such a big deal out of steak.


I had a similar childhood, although we weren't exactly poor per se (it was mainly a combination of my parents having bad priorities with money and my mom, normally an excellent cook, simply not being able to cook steak into anything other than a dry chewy mess).

MattyFridays: Complicated doesn't always equal = good eats. That's my biggest problem with Alton Brown. His concept for a grilled cheese on cook smart horrified me.


That grilled cheese was maybe the best thing I've ever seen.  I don't have a grill but sooner or later I intend to prepare an indoor version of that.
 
2014-06-07 02:40:16 PM
Only a New Yorker can cook anything that's not barbeque, and they do fairly well with that.
 
2014-06-07 02:40:46 PM

danknerd: ...and if you use propane to grill your steak, you're doing it wrong.


Why does my steak need extra flavor? Especially charcoal flavor, that's the worst.
 
2014-06-07 02:42:13 PM

Claude Ballse: ArkAngel: The only appropriate response at a restaurant when asked the question "Do you need steak sauce?" is "I better not."

EXACTLY!

A1's sole purpose is to disguise horrible meat. Though it also reminds you with every single chew you just wasted perfectly good money on a crap meal...


Yes, its basicly ketchup.
 
2014-06-07 02:43:40 PM
I prefer my steak a hair on the rare side of medium-rare, but can enjoy it well-done if not too tough and dry, or extra rare as long as long as it at least touched the grill a few seconds.
 
2014-06-07 02:45:00 PM
The problem is, you can make an AWESOME steak on the stove, in the oven, on a gas grill, or on a propane grill. It really doesn't matter so long as it is prepared properly, cooked correctly, and allowed to rest.

You can also make shiatsteak on the same equipment by not prepping correctly, not cooking properly, or not letting it rest.

Or you can turn an awesome steak into shiatsteak by using cuts of meat so horrible that you have to have A1 to mask the leathery rot you're scarfing down.

Up to you.
 
2014-06-07 02:45:45 PM
I still prefer a pan fried steak with salt, course pepper, onion, garlic and butter. Add a side of sauteed mushrooms and I'm in heaven. Just thinking of the crusty chard fat and juicy rare center is making my mouth water.
 
2014-06-07 02:47:40 PM

xaks: make an AWESOME steak on the stove, in the oven, on a gas grill, or on a propane grill.


Bleh. That last one was supposed to be 'or on a charcoal grill'.
 
2014-06-07 02:47:50 PM

ArkAngel: The only appropriate response at a restaurant when asked the question "Do you need steak sauce?" is "I better not."


Done in 1.

Asking for any kind of sauce before you taste my steak is grounds for banishment.

/I got your sauce right here.
//giggity
 
2014-06-07 02:48:51 PM

tjsands1118: I still prefer a pan fried steak with salt, course pepper, onion, garlic and butter. Add a side of sauteed mushrooms and I'm in heaven. Just thinking of the crusty chard fat and juicy rare center is making my mouth water.


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Oh, you mean 'charred'. sorry
 
2014-06-07 02:50:33 PM

ArkAngel: The only appropriate response at a restaurant when asked the question "Do you need steak sauce?" is "I better not."


And we're done.
 
2014-06-07 02:50:37 PM

xaks: xaks: make an AWESOME steak on the stove, in the oven, on a gas grill, or on a propane grill.

Bleh. That last one was supposed to be 'or on a charcoal grill'.


You were right the first time.
 
2014-06-07 02:51:31 PM

danknerd: ...and if you use propane to grill your steak, you're doing it wrong.


If you grill a steak at all you're doing it wrong.  (Well, unless it's a marinated lesser cut or something like that, maybe, but that's not what we're talking about in this thread.)

There is absolutely no justification for grilling a steak: all it is is a missed opportunity to have broiled it, which is always better.  Grilling steak loses juice with no benefit.  Smoke flavor isn't right for steak, and even if you disagree, there's no way whatever minor smoky flavor your steak can pick up in ten minutes can replace what was just to juice.

Broil it: you get the direct heat and get to keep the juice.
 
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