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2014-06-07 10:54:25 AM  
weng ,
This sort of behavior is not abnormal.
Was at a highway rest stop the other day. Was towing, so I dropped the truck and trailer in the truck parking area.
There was a car carrier there, surrounded by ten or so unmarked police vehicles, among them a large number of SUVs. The first obviously strange thing was that, trailing from the doors on the SUV's, were a bunch of Dewalt power tool battery chargers.They had all the brand new, fresh-off-the-boat cars pulled off the truck and were systematically dismantling them right there in the rest stop parking lot. Did not photograph, because my own setup looked far from legit - big Dodge farm truck with "PRIVATE TRANSPORT NOT FOR HIRE" decals, a flatbed trailer, and a fully dismantled Corvette strapped on, with all its guts piled up in the back of the truck.


Pretty sure that trick has been  been used to move drugs on a  large scale.  More then a few ounces of weed.

Not saying police should not be liable if they make a mistake and cause damage, but this could be a trick used to move large amounts of drugs.  I hope the police had a clue before breaking out the tools.
 
2014-06-07 10:54:53 AM  

BravadoGT: Yeah--that's what lawyer-types call a "warrant."  What court did the cop go to before tearing apart this guy's car?


He's free to file a complaint, I'm sure an internal investigation will follow with the cop getting his pay reduced for a week or so, mean while this guy becomes a mortal enemy with his shiny big truck to every Police officer in 100 miles.

I'll grab the popcorn.
 
2014-06-07 10:59:08 AM  
Ivan the Tolerable
granolasteak: I hate this LEO-hate that comes up on threads like this. I love our local LEOs. They're amazing men and women, and every single one of them works damned hard and is as honest as they come
Maybe my town is an oddity...
It very likely is. My town also has a very professional and effective police force, but even our officers have mentioned that the cops in a neighboring area even scare THEM, personally. Apparently, the exact kind of applicants our force rejects due to psych screens showing a predilection toward violence and power issues are exactly the applicants that city hires. One force has an attitude of policing, and the other almost an attitude of a military occupation force. Different institutional cultures entirely. Its like a group of goddamn mall ninjas with uniforms and guns, and openly hurt and/or kill people who cross them. Openly, on camera, and still always get cleared for it. Eventually the feds may step in the way they have had in other places, but that takes a loooooong time and a lot of bodies.
Not all departments are created equal. You got lucky. Don't think its typical.


Some cities are pretty rational. Some cities like to hire police that think they are doing house to house searches in iraq regardless of context.
 
2014-06-07 11:00:26 AM  

BravadoGT: Misconduc: BravadoGT: Later on, the police will be quietly paying for this gentleman's damage in an out-of-court settlement.   If they smelled dope, they needed to go to a judge and get a warrant.  No exigent circumstances here to get around that.

Not likely in Florida, we have something called "probable cause", the officer suspected the truck had a stash of weed, if he swears this statement in court, the court could either approve or reject this (most of the time charges dropped). In this case if the guy wants he can go after the police officer, which would put every cop against him in Florida, pulling him over for speeding when he's going 1mph over etc.

Word of advice to him, remove the horns and quietly get his truck repaired because he makes it worse for himself.

Yeah--that's what lawyer-types call a "warrant."  What court did the cop go to before tearing apart this guy's car?


They didn't have to.
'Drug dogs', sometimes real but often fake, trump the probable cause requirement just by scratching at any part of the car.
 
2014-06-07 11:05:06 AM  

granolasteak: This kind of thing not only infuriates me, it really stuns me.  I don't have a reality setting where the police are the bad guys.


Then what reality do you live in? Since 9/11 particularly, the face of law enforcement has changed. Lots of people previously incapable of getting jobs as mall security have badges, even Federal ones. Powers unheard of are commonplace now, and abused openly. Police are trained with armored vehicles and military weapons and tactics. Patrolling your street to make you feel safe or to protect you is something that died a generation ago. Supreme Court already stated they have no obligation to protect you anymore, and the folks joining the force now never had that idea enter their mind.
 Welcome to reality, sister.
 
2014-06-07 11:14:36 AM  

Igor Jakovsky: //Bubb Rubb had a better personality


No love for Li'l Sis?
 
2014-06-07 11:19:15 AM  
I'm surprised they didn't just steal the truck and assfark the guy right there in the parking lot to boot. I mean, that's what I would have expected.

Guess they couldn't find a baby to grenade or a pet to kill that day.
 
2014-06-07 11:23:37 AM  

NickelP: cryinoutloud: TommyymmoT: First, it was not a pickup.
Second, they didn't just trash a truck, they trashed his business because he uses it as a mobile platform to demonstrate the variety of air horns he sells for a living, and they trashed his demos.

I got as far as We deliver the loudest train horn kits you can buy and then.....

I can't figure out why anyone would buy these. What kind of asshole would spend $500+ so you can hear his horn 2. Miles away and he can damage the hearing of anyone within 100 ft? I ausually against banning things but these shouldn't even be sold


Not much different than these douche bags with 800 speakers in their $2000 car, cruising up and down the street with their windows open blaring their music for everyone to hear.

I've even seen these guys wearing hearing protection while doing it.

Attention whores.
 
2014-06-07 11:25:53 AM  

sethen320: abhorrent1: Igor Jakovsky: abhorrent1: vehicular discrimination

Don't. Just farking don't

That used to be an issue in the town i grew up in. The cops were accused of pulling over folks with Broward or Dade County plates based on the fact they thought thats where all the drugs were coming from. Having those plates and being profiled isnt much different than having this guys douchebag truck and getting profiled for it.

That's been going on everywhere forever.  Driving through Wisconsin or Indiana with Illinois plates? Yeah, pretty good chance you're gonna get pulled over. Maybe not because they suspect drugs but still. I got a ticket in Iowa for going 59 in a 55. They know you're just gonna pay it rather than drive all the way back to contest it.

Were you driving 59?


I don't know, maybe. That's not the point.
You could go to court and argue calibration and likely get a 4mph over ticket thrown out. But as I said. They know I'm not driving two hours back to Iowa to fight it when I can just send them a check for $50 bucks.
 
2014-06-07 11:27:36 AM  

GDubDub: Not much different than these douche bags with 800 speakers in their $2000 car, cruising up and down the street with their windows open blaring their music for everyone to hear.

I've even seen these guys wearing hearing protection while doing it.

Attention whores.


I've always said that. "Oh look, a $500 car with a $5000 stereo system". Nice priorities there, G.
 
2014-06-07 11:37:10 AM  

Misconduc: Word of advice to him, remove the horns and quietly get his truck repaired because he makes it worse for himself.


So, let the police destroy his legal income and walk away?  You do get his douchey truck is for advertising to other douche truck owners, right?  Whether you and the cops like it or not, he's trying to sell horns to truckers and douchey RV people, legally.  At least he's being legal AND ethical (even douches can be ethical), the cops may have the legal side covered, they forgot all about the ethical part of being a decent human being.

/loud horns are obnoxious, but when encountering some bad drivers, the horn is never loud enough.
 
2014-06-07 11:39:43 AM  
locomotivehorns.info
Awww hell yeah! Tailgate me again farker.
 
2014-06-07 11:43:09 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: his truck after having attended a Juicy J concert in Ybor City, Florida
Sorry but Juicy J only fark with lean/syrup, and dogs can't smell that since it's RX


I'M sorry.... is this in English?
 
2014-06-07 11:46:14 AM  

SauronWasFramed: /yet, when Obama uses the IRS to persecute his political enemies


[citation needed]

What the fark does that old discredited pile of rotting whargarbl have to do with the subject at hand anyway?
Get back to the sovereign citizen thread where you belong, Mr. Bundy.
 
2014-06-07 11:46:23 AM  

cryinoutloud: TommyymmoT: First, it was not a pickup.
Second, they didn't just trash a truck, they trashed his business because he uses it as a mobile platform to demonstrate the variety of air horns he sells for a living, and they trashed his demos.

I got as far as We deliver the loudest train horn kits you can buy and then.....

[media.tumblr.com image 500x332]


Can someone explain the need to put these things on a car?  Does it involve the penis?
 
2014-06-07 11:50:29 AM  

abhorrent1: GDubDub: Not much different than these douche bags with 800 speakers in their $2000 car, cruising up and down the street with their windows open blaring their music for everyone to hear.

I've even seen these guys wearing hearing protection while doing it.

Attention whores.

I've always said that. "Oh look, a $500 car with a $5000 stereo system". Nice priorities there, G.


Well, if you're hooked up with social services and/or trying to launder money you can't have an expensive car registered in your name but you can spend as much as you want on the bling to outfit it.
I get pissed when I see kids in the car with the blasting stereos.
 
2014-06-07 11:56:38 AM  
ts1.mm.bing.net

ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2014-06-07 11:58:54 AM  
Not trying to be loud or obnoxious with those horns, since a majority are Walmart crap quality.  I installed a Stebel 138 d horn, one on my car, one on my motorcycle, have only felt the need to use the car one twice. Installed them when i bought the car new in 2005. Had to remove the grill and build a bracket for it. Don't need air tanks or all that ghetto stuff to go wrong. Most of that stuff isn't worth the chinese plastic it's made of.Put one on my motorcycle, stock location, never had to use it. Only about 60 bucks each.
 
2014-06-07 11:59:07 AM  

Cataholic: cryinoutloud: TommyymmoT: First, it was not a pickup.
Second, they didn't just trash a truck, they trashed his business because he uses it as a mobile platform to demonstrate the variety of air horns he sells for a living, and they trashed his demos.

I got as far as We deliver the loudest train horn kits you can buy and then.....

[media.tumblr.com image 500x332]

Can someone explain the need to put these things on a car?  Does it involve the penis?


In Florida with the number of ancient mofos driving around maybe a train horn is actually necessary.
 
2014-06-07 12:02:55 PM  

JoieD'Zen: abhorrent1: GDubDub: Not much different than these douche bags with 800 speakers in their $2000 car, cruising up and down the street with their windows open blaring their music for everyone to hear.

I've even seen these guys wearing hearing protection while doing it.

Attention whores.

I've always said that. "Oh look, a $500 car with a $5000 stereo system". Nice priorities there, G.

Well, if you're hooked up with social services and/or trying to launder money you can't have an expensive car registered in your name but you can spend as much as you want on the bling to outfit it.
I get pissed when I see kids in the car with the blasting stereos.


When I lived in the city, I drove past the projects almost daily. The parking lots looked like a farking Cadillac dealership while I was driving around in a $700 GMC Jimmy.

/go to dealer that doesn't require a credit check or proof of income
//get car and don't pay for it until it's repossessed
///rinse repeat
 
2014-06-07 12:11:33 PM  
Destroying the truck is a small price to pay to protect our innocent children from the pure evil of marihuana.
Darn kids today with their hippety-hoppety 8-track tapes!
Get off my lawn!img.fark.net
 
2014-06-07 12:14:03 PM  

TommyymmoT: I once considered putting one of those horns INSIDE my house as part of an alarm system.

Many burglars are so nervous they almost shiat themselves as it is.


Imagine a false alarm and you can't hear the burglar alarm people talking over the phone to you over the noise. So the cops show up and lots of neighbors crowd around. At 3 am.  And then someone has a heart attack.

It cost $150 to remove the alarm and replace it with one that doesn't kill all hearing.
 
2014-06-07 12:14:04 PM  

SauronWasFramed: /yet, when Obama uses the IRS to persecute his political enemies, the NSA to spy on US, etc, crickets chirping.


Does reality intrude much into your little world?

Thought not.
 
2014-06-07 12:16:12 PM  
No, the douche cop who actually ripped apart the truck should be solely responsible for paying and also be straight up fired. Having the PD pay for it will just incite a meaningless apology and the cop will maybe get suspended for a bit then be right back on the force. Where's the incentive in that for cops not to do stupid shiat like this? And if that were me, I'd track down the idiot dumb enough to leave the note and beat his ass to a pulp, give them a legit reason to mess with me then.
 
2014-06-07 12:19:39 PM  

bingethinker: 1. Make the cop pay for all repairs. Take it out of his pay check. Pay him minimum wage until the total amount is paid off.
2. Then fire his ass and ban him from working for any police department or security firm for the rest of his worthless life.


Finally a smart solution! In reality, the PD will pay for it, maybe, and may give an empty meaningless apology. The cop in question may, at a maximum, get suspended and them come righ back. Where's the incentive for cops not to do stupid shiat with this? I like your idea better.
 
2014-06-07 12:20:01 PM  

BravadoGT: Later on, the police will be quietly paying for this gentleman's damage in an out-of-court settlement.   If they smelled dope, they needed to go to a judge and get a warrant.  No exigent circumstances here to get around that.


That's not how it works.  They don't have to "get a warrant".
 
2014-06-07 12:24:07 PM  

JoieD'Zen: I'm guessing that he pissed one of them off with one of his horns and they used the " i smell weed" bs to get back at him.
Weed should be legal like it is here and in Co. There are many people that should smoke it everyday; the world would be a better place.


Pretty much this.  Some a-hole probably was playing with his PA or did the horn, and had that rediculous logo on the car.
 
2014-06-07 12:27:15 PM  
Judged, Juried and Punished by Cop.
What's new?
Some prick with a badge decided he did not like horns.

/the only thing that stops a gang is a worse gang called "police"
//Olie did this first
 
2014-06-07 12:29:36 PM  

BitwiseShift: TommyymmoT: I once considered putting one of those horns INSIDE my house as part of an alarm system.

Many burglars are so nervous they almost shiat themselves as it is.

Imagine a false alarm and you can't hear the burglar alarm people talking over the phone to you over the noise. So the cops show up and lots of neighbors crowd around. At 3 am.  And then someone has a heart attack.

It cost $150 to remove the alarm and replace it with one that doesn't kill all hearing.


It would only be used when the building is completely vacant due to the likelihood of hearing damage from having one indoors.
This would be separate motion controlled system independent of any other alarm system.
It would also shut down after 15 seconds because it's only used for (true) shock value.
 
2014-06-07 12:35:28 PM  
Dirty J1


Sure you would. You're a regular ITG, ain't ya's??
 
2014-06-07 12:39:07 PM  
And in no way will anyone be held responsible.
 
2014-06-07 01:11:36 PM  

Trance750: The pigs overstep their boundries every day, and dare the common man to do anything about it


This is why I was laughing my ass off when that nutbar punk was killing cops in Moncton or wherever. They all farking deserve it, and I hope the next one shatters his high score.

/cue the half-witted 'durr call a hippie next time you're in trouble' crowd. As if a hippie couldn't drive over to my house, fill out some paperwork and say 'well there's not much we can do here now'.
//Additionally, the hippie is statistically much less likely to murder my dog and ruin my life - and if he does, by chance do those things, his punishment will be more severe than a paid vacation
 
2014-06-07 02:12:10 PM  
It's still Daryl Gates' fault
 
2014-06-07 02:48:35 PM  
Not that I agree with it, but I thought that if an officer has "reasonable grounds" to believe that there is a crime, they are allowed to enter a property without a warrant? A more appropriate example could be that if they hear gunshots coming from a house, they can enter the home to investigate because if they wait for a warrant to come through 4 people could be dead and the perp could be half way out of state.

That said, in this case if the cop really believed there was dope coming from the car, he could have called for a drug sniffing dog to come in to confirm his assumptions. Of course, one also must ask why were the cops allowed to search cars in the parking lot (private property) without a warrant in itself.

/yeah, he's gonna get a nice settlement cheque out of this
 
2014-06-07 03:09:09 PM  

Electrify: That said, in this case if the cop really believed there was dope coming from the car, he could have called for a drug sniffing dog to come in to confirm his assumptions.


First line of the note left behind: "Your car was checked by TPD K-9."

The legality of the search is questionable. The necessity of the search is not.

It's likely that the local cops decided to run their drug sniffing dog through the parking lot during the concert in the assumption that there would be drugs present, and the dog hit on this guys car. In my opinion that, in itself, is a waste of time and resources. As for the legality of the search, it has long been held that vehicles create their own exigency due to their mobility. However, in this case the vehicle was parked and unoccupied and the cops could have seized it pending issuance of a warrant. The exigency in this case is questionable.
 
2014-06-07 03:24:53 PM  

abhorrent1: sethen320: abhorrent1: Igor Jakovsky: abhorrent1: vehicular discrimination

Don't. Just farking don't

That used to be an issue in the town i grew up in. The cops were accused of pulling over folks with Broward or Dade County plates based on the fact they thought thats where all the drugs were coming from. Having those plates and being profiled isnt much different than having this guys douchebag truck and getting profiled for it.

That's been going on everywhere forever.  Driving through Wisconsin or Indiana with Illinois plates? Yeah, pretty good chance you're gonna get pulled over. Maybe not because they suspect drugs but still. I got a ticket in Iowa for going 59 in a 55. They know you're just gonna pay it rather than drive all the way back to contest it.

Were you driving 59?

I don't know, maybe. That's not the point.
You could go to court and argue calibration and likely get a 4mph over ticket thrown out. But as I said. They know I'm not driving two hours back to Iowa to fight it when I can just send them a check for $50 bucks.


Seems like not "maybe" speeding would eliminate the problem...particularly if you know they pull those shenanigans.

I deal with the same stuff when I drive through certain areas. Cruise control at 2 mph under is your friend, unless its raining of course.
 
2014-06-07 04:09:50 PM  

sethen320: abhorrent1: sethen320: abhorrent1: Igor Jakovsky: abhorrent1: vehicular discrimination

Don't. Just farking don't

That used to be an issue in the town i grew up in. The cops were accused of pulling over folks with Broward or Dade County plates based on the fact they thought thats where all the drugs were coming from. Having those plates and being profiled isnt much different than having this guys douchebag truck and getting profiled for it.

That's been going on everywhere forever.  Driving through Wisconsin or Indiana with Illinois plates? Yeah, pretty good chance you're gonna get pulled over. Maybe not because they suspect drugs but still. I got a ticket in Iowa for going 59 in a 55. They know you're just gonna pay it rather than drive all the way back to contest it.

Were you driving 59?

I don't know, maybe. That's not the point.
You could go to court and argue calibration and likely get a 4mph over ticket thrown out. But as I said. They know I'm not driving two hours back to Iowa to fight it when I can just send them a check for $50 bucks.

Seems like not "maybe" speeding would eliminate the problem...particularly if you know they pull those shenanigans.

I deal with the same stuff when I drive through certain areas. Cruise control at 2 mph under is your friend, unless its raining of course.


Sigh...
Just because you have your cruise control set at 53, that doesn't mean the cops radar is going to read 53.
 
2014-06-07 04:29:15 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: TommyymmoT: TuteTibiImperes: granolasteak: TuteTibiImperes: On the other hand, his business is selling those infuriatingly obnoxious incredibly loud horns for trucks that make them sound like locomotives. Given that, I'm not exactly upset that the police trashed it.

I hope you're being facetious about the "not exactly upset" part of your comment.

What's next?   "He were one of dem dark skinned folk, so I'm not exactly upset."  Or, "She weren't wearing a long enough skirt, so I'm not exactly upset."

Slippery slopes are....slippery.

I get the slippery slop argument, but I really, truly, detest the product that this guy sells.  It encourages and enables this kind of douchebaggery (based on the faceplate decal it actually appears these guys are using his company's product).

It's sort of how like when serial killers and child molesters get beat up in prison.  Yes, it's wrong, but it's hard to have sympathy for them.

I once considered putting one of those horns INSIDE my house as part of an alarm system.

Many burglars are so nervous they almost shiat themselves as it is.
Not only would the horn punish them, they would probably run away before they had the chance to steal anything.

Huh.  It appears you may have stumbled upon the one non-asshole potential use for those horns.  That actually doesn't sound like an awful idea.


They also work very well in First Niagara Arena as a celebration for when the Buffalo Sabres score.  ...it was pretty quiet in there since last October....
 
2014-06-07 05:17:22 PM  

Ivan the Tolerable: SauronWasFramed: /yet, when Obama uses the IRS to persecute his political enemies

[citation needed]

What the fark does that old discredited pile of rotting whargarbl have to do with the subject at hand anyway?
Get back to the sovereign citizen thread where you belong, Mr. Bundy.


citation needed?  You really have to strain yourself to look the other way.  don't hurt yourself.

lol  - Oh to be a naive braindead liberal that shuts his eyes and ears to the evils that transpire in DC in the name of politics.

///thanks for the lol post....you affirm my belief that liberals really do anything they can to defuse the obama administration and its lawlessness
 
2014-06-07 05:23:24 PM  
Even if they had bothered to get a warrant, they shouldn't have the right to tear his truck apart and not pay for the damages.
 
2014-06-07 05:26:39 PM  

SpdrJay: doglover: Trance750: Yes, but then who would the cops arrest

Black people.

As long as there are dogs to be shot, the police will have plenty of work.


In Colorado they are more creative.

"Not arresting people for pot gives us a whole lot of elk shooting time!"

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/elk-killing-colorado-cop-guilty-i ll egal-hunting-23982394
 
2014-06-07 05:29:25 PM  

CruiserTwelve: First line of the note left behind: "Your car was checked by TPD K-9."

. And they ask me, "Okay, we just wanna let the drug dog walk by it a couple times." I said, "Fine". And the drug dog walks by a couple times, and the guy goes, "Well, the dog gave us the signal that there are drugs on the plane". And I was like, "...No, he didn't! That dog didn't do anything, I was starting straight at it! He didn't wink, blink, woof, or paw. What's his signal, a blank stare? [Mimes a blank stare] That's all he did!"

-Ron White

 
2014-06-07 07:00:24 PM  

gibbon1: TommyymmoT: I once considered putting one of those horns INSIDE my house as part of an alarm system.

Surely god would punish you by having it go off suddenly when you were on the crapper.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-07 08:17:12 PM  
Considering the expense of the vehicle and its value as a company truck I'm surprised that:

A. It didn't have an alarm system in it and enabled
B. Said alarm system wasn't hooked up to the loudest farking horn that he had (but still within 'legal' limits)

It would only have to go off for 15 seconds, but those cops and that dog wouldn't be right for weeks.

/might even end up retiring the K9... if you could catch up to him
 
m00
2014-06-07 08:29:26 PM  

wax_on: Jeez, how many police abuses would we eliminate if we just made pot legal? No more "I smelled pot so I decided it was my duty to violate the 4th amendment."


They'd move on to smelling bomb residue, or terrorist activities.
 
m00
2014-06-07 08:40:40 PM  

lack of warmth: So, let the police destroy his legal income and walk away? You do get his douchey truck is for advertising to other douche truck owners, right? Whether you and the cops like it or not, he's trying to sell horns to truckers and douchey RV people, legally. At least he's being legal AND ethical (even douches can be ethical), the cops may have the legal side covered, they forgot all about the ethical part of being a decent human being.

/loud horns are obnoxious, but when encountering some bad drivers, the horn is never loud enough.


This.

Imagine somewhere in a small town in the mid-west, an indie game developer had his office and computers ransacked after-hours because the police smelled marijuana. The local rednecks said "well, video games cause school shootings so... I can't really feel bad for those douches who make them."
 
2014-06-07 08:51:42 PM  
vehicular discrimination
i1211.photobucket.com

Seriously though, fark this noise. The PD and/or the officers responsible should be forced to pay for all repairs.
 
2014-06-08 01:13:45 AM  
granolasteak:   And it's frightening to think that people like those responding here, average joes so to speak, are raising their children to fear and hate law enforcement.

Are you kidding?  Have you seen the commercials where the police are hiding/blending into the background, with the message "We WILL find you."?  My young nieces and nephews get upset every time the commercial comes on.  They think the police are the boogey man, and that's exactly the message they were trying to convey.
 
2014-06-08 01:34:05 AM  
For all those yelling about 4th Amendment violations, it's unfortunate that in this and similar cases, The 4th Amendment doesn't apply. Yes, it's wrong, and yes it sucks, but it is what it is.
 
2014-06-08 01:36:42 AM  

SauronWasFramed: ///thanks for the lol post....you affirm my belief that liberals really do anything they can to defuse the obama administration and its lawlessness


 You can post almost any number of questionable and objectionable things about the Obama administration by this point. They are not exactly in short supply.
 My only objection is why given all of them, you felt the need to post an old and ridiculously well-documented false one. What's next? Kenyan birth certificates? Its almost like you are trying to parody ignorant wingnuts.

/Are you some kind of liberal false flag operation to make conservatives look profoundly retarded or something?
 
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