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(Tampa Bay Online)   Remember two days ago, that FBI and FAA warning not to aim "lasers" at police helicopters? Well of course you do. This guy, not so much   (tbo.com) divider line 46
    More: Florida, FBI, Federal Aviation Administration, police helicopter, Brandon Manning, Tampa Police Department, Hillsborough County Jail, 50th Street, Dodge Ram  
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2014-06-06 03:25:58 PM  
Because -

1) What else is there to do in Brandon besides sniffing Tampa's crotch all day
2) Brandon folks don't keeeer bout no "stronglee wordehd lettur!"
 
2014-06-06 05:55:54 PM  
Seriously, it's marginal terrorism.  It's an attack that puts an aircraft at risk of crashing.
 
2014-06-06 05:59:22 PM  
"Hey, let's get stoned and lase some aircraft!"
 
2014-06-06 06:01:44 PM  
Honest question: what do police helicopters do when they're shot at? Because you know it happens and yet we never hear about it (because the perps get away?)
 
2014-06-06 06:02:22 PM  
I think the idea of attempted murder is a farce. His intent was to blind a helo pilot. He took actions to blind a helo pilot. Summary execution.

Leave him in the car park with his laser smashed in half and jammed into his skull. Let the sanitation department worry about moving the body, the same way they clean up roadkill.
 
2014-06-06 06:03:01 PM  
It's not polite to point.
 
2014-06-06 06:04:28 PM  

fusillade762: "Hey, let's get stoned and lase some aircraft!"


But I've been assured that no one on marijuana has ever committed any sort of crime.  The mere act of smoking it not only cures all diseases, but makes you an instant model citizen.
 
2014-06-06 06:06:36 PM  

aerojockey: Seriously, it's marginal terrorism.  It's an attack that puts an aircraft at risk of crashing.


I must have missed the part where he engages in  the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims
 
2014-06-06 06:08:02 PM  
Seriously. We like to come home to our families and argue on FARK. Stop lasing helicopters, assholes.
 
2014-06-06 06:12:05 PM  

aerojockey: Seriously, it's marginal terrorism.  It's an attack that puts an aircraft at risk of crashing.


Malicious mischief.
 
2014-06-06 06:16:32 PM  

devildog123: But I've been assured that no one on marijuana has ever committed any sort of crime.  The mere act of smoking it not only cures all diseases, but makes you an instant model citizen.


Cannabis doesn't work like that. Smoking it won't make you a reprobate criminal with no concern for the wellbeing of others, and only a passing regard for your own.


You're already pretty much rock bottom if you decide to smoke weed. Cause and Effect.
 
2014-06-06 06:17:07 PM  
I don't care if it's TURRISM or not, it's stupid. Helicopters are dangerous enough without people doing this stuff.

That said, if you want to turn a laser pointer into a CNC laser cutter, http://www.igg.me/at/minilaser/ (Yes, there also is a laser shark). Note that the unit will be sold only if you have a 3D printer, and it's supposed to be installed on it, pointing down.

Lasers are fun and useful, but every time some idiot decides to point them at vehicles or people, they run the risk of getting banned! Please pewpew responsibly.
 
2014-06-06 06:18:29 PM  
U.S. Killed annually by laser blinding - 0
U.S. injured annually by lasers - 5
U.S. injured annually by laser pointers - 0
U.S. Killed annually by preventable medical errors - 450,000 (3rd leading cause of death)

But feel free to get all worked up and demand that something be done about lasers. Meanwhile 7,000 people die every year because of sloppy handwriting on prescriptions.
 
2014-06-06 06:19:09 PM  
This idiot never learned what laser pointers are really supposed to be used for.

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goodlaughz.com
 
2014-06-06 06:19:54 PM  
www.orangejuiceblog.com
Harry Anslinger frowns on your redneck pot smoking laser pointing shenanigans
 
2014-06-06 06:29:19 PM  

devildog123: fusillade762: "Hey, let's get stoned and lase some aircraft!"

But I've been assured that no one on marijuana has ever committed any sort of crime.  The mere act of smoking it not only cures all diseases, but makes you an instant model citizen.


I'm glad someone finally understands.

We did it everybody, we got through to one person.
 
2014-06-06 06:35:06 PM  

spiritplumber: Note that the unit will be sold only if you have a 3D printer, and it's supposed to be installed on it, pointing down.


Is 3D printing really worth the effort?
 
2014-06-06 06:42:44 PM  
I seriously doubt he consented to a vehicle search. Nobody is that stupid.

Then again...
 
2014-06-06 06:48:25 PM  

letrole: spiritplumber: Note that the unit will be sold only if you have a 3D printer, and it's supposed to be installed on it, pointing down.

Is 3D printing really worth the effort?


It's like having a personal computer in, like, 1992. Lets you do awesome things.
 
2014-06-06 06:49:49 PM  
  Seriously, in this day and age how stupid is aiming a laser at anything other then a cat? Anyone stupid enough pointing a laser in a crowd of people needs a beat down. You may as well scream fire in a theater.
 
2014-06-06 06:54:24 PM  
It's stupid to commit a crime that can be immediately traced to you while you're also carrying anything illegal. And green lasers are more powerful than red ones but they're also more easily traced.

At least he didn't figure that if he was going to go down for pointing a laser at a police helicopter he might as well have a rifle attached to it. (Don't try this at home kids, and if you do DON'T MENTION ME, 'The One True TheDavidTM.')

No seriously, DON'T DO IT. Not even without a rifle attached. That's as stupid as running into Wal-Mart, going all the way back to back wall, grabbing a case of beer and heading for the door, all the while yelling "Look at ME! I'm SHOP-LIFTING Bud Light!" Another example would be threatening the President on Facebook using your real name with a "show the world" privacy setting.

To quote Dana Beal quoting Abbie Hoffman, "The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it." Even if you're just a simple lawbreaker without political intent, don't commit a crime unless you have a good chance of not getting busted. Otherwise you might as well tattoo PRISON biatch on your forehead and wag your willy at the po-po.The world is already too full of people who in a more just and fair world would be too stupid to live, and too many of them are competing with me for the taxpayers' hard-earned money.

As for me, my defense is simple: I've figured out how to survive by costing the tax-payers roughly $12K/year without hurting anybody or pissing off the police.

This is also why my fellow Kentuckians should support, donate to and vote for me in the 2016 Republican primary for U.S. Senator against Rand Paul, because of the (2014) salary of $174,000 per annum I'd be able to donate at least $100,000 per year to charity and still manage to live better than I am now, like once in a while I could take a taxi to work from my hovel in Anacostia. I'm CHEAP!
You won't find a U.S. Senator who'll cost you any less!

Furthermore I promise to publicly post my day-to-day financial records so you'll know 1) that no special interest group or lobbying firm owns me and 2) that I'm still drinking ~ 350mL of cheap rum or vodka every night. That's right, if elected U.S. Senator from KY I promise 100% sunshine: if you want to know how much I spend on toilet paper you'll only have to look at scanned copies of my store receipts.

Ahem.

But anyway. Shining green lasers at police "ghetto birds" is silly. You might as well just shoot yourself and let the gators/coyotes/rats/liberals eat you.
 
2014-06-06 07:05:37 PM  

letrole: devildog123: But I've been assured that no one on marijuana has ever committed any sort of crime.  The mere act of smoking it not only cures all diseases, but makes you an instant model citizen.

Cannabis doesn't work like that. Smoking it won't make you a reprobate criminal with no concern for the wellbeing of others, and only a passing regard for your own.


You're already pretty much rock bottom if you decide to smoke weed. Cause and Effect.


www.furtivefashionista.com
Go away, reprobatin'
 
2014-06-06 07:09:54 PM  

letrole: I think the idea of attempted murder is a farce. His intent was to blind a helo pilot. He took actions to blind a helo pilot. Summary execution.

Leave him in the car park with his laser smashed in half and jammed into his skull. Let the sanitation department worry about moving the body, the same way they clean up roadkill.


Wow dude, angry much?
 
2014-06-06 07:17:03 PM  
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I hate those farking things, btw. When I was waitering in 2002,one idiot thought it was a funny idea to keep pointing that in my eye while taking the table's order. I simply grabbed the thing from him a few minutes later, walked outside and chucked it full force. Oh, he hated that!
 
2014-06-06 07:22:19 PM  
Okay I haven't ever researched any of this stuff and I'm not an expert on aircraft avionics or whatever the fark. Are we talking specifically about pointing them at the face of the pilots? I don't really get how, say, pointing one at the side or bottom of a helicopter could be dangerous. My cat can't jump THAT high. Is that what we're talking about here? Don't point them directly into the cockpit?
 
2014-06-06 07:27:50 PM  

ChadM89: Okay I haven't ever researched any of this stuff and I'm not an expert on aircraft avionics or whatever the fark. Are we talking specifically about pointing them at the face of the pilots? I don't really get how, say, pointing one at the side or bottom of a helicopter could be dangerous. My cat can't jump THAT high. Is that what we're talking about here? Don't point them directly into the cockpit?


I think this has more to do with the helicopter crew being led to believe someone is targeting them with a laser sight and shiatting their pants.
 
2014-06-06 07:52:39 PM  

ChadM89: Okay I haven't ever researched any of this stuff and I'm not an expert on aircraft avionics or whatever the fark. Are we talking specifically about pointing them at the face of the pilots? I don't really get how, say, pointing one at the side or bottom of a helicopter could be dangerous. My cat can't jump THAT high. Is that what we're talking about here? Don't point them directly into the cockpit?


   Lasers are used for siting weapons. Weapons can be used to shoot down aircraft and killing people, and shooting coke bottles. People with lasers should either point them at coke bottles or play with a cat. It's not a federal offence because it may give the pilot an uncomfortable feeling in his retina. It's a federal offense because when some dickhead wants to freak a pilot out into thinking his craft is being shot down, it's not a farking April fools joke. I've seen them at concerts and at the beach. In days of mass shootings and terrorism it's just not funny. It's a farkin 4chan "look at how crud I can be" stunt. I hope they harshly penalize any idiots doing it.
 
2014-06-06 07:59:33 PM  
ununcle:
   Lasers are used for siting weapons. Weapons can be used to shoot down aircraft and killing people, and shooting coke bottles. People with lasers should either point them at coke bottles or play with a cat. It's not a federal offence because it may give the pilot an uncomfortable feeling in his retina. It's a federal offense because when some dickhead wants to freak a pilot out into thinking his craft is being shot down, it's not a farking April fools joke. I've seen them at concerts and at the beach. In days of mass shootings and terrorism it's just not funny. It's a farkin 4chan "look at how crud I can be" stunt. I hope they harshly penalize any idiots doing it.

Actually it's a federal offense because after a mile or two, the beam expands to fill the entire cockpit and literally blinds everyone inside. Like that asshole on a two lane highway coming at you with their high beams on. But what you said is a pretty good reason not to bring one to a presidential inauguration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKSdy2KAW4
 
2014-06-06 08:11:37 PM  

ChadM89: Okay I haven't ever researched any of this stuff and I'm not an expert on aircraft avionics or whatever the fark. Are we talking specifically about pointing them at the face of the pilots? I don't really get how, say, pointing one at the side or bottom of a helicopter could be dangerous. My cat can't jump THAT high. Is that what we're talking about here? Don't point them directly into the cockpit?


Not only does the beam spread out so it hits a larger area, aircraft windows tend to get a lot of little scratches that aren't noticeable until they are brightly lit by a laser. It is a great way to instantly ruin someone's night vision so they can no longer safely operate the aircraft. One story I read was about a town that only had one police helicopter pilot. He had to sit out the rest of one shift because he couldn't see properly after getting hit with a laser.
 
2014-06-06 08:12:43 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Furthermore I promise to publicly post my day-to-day financial records so you'll know 1) that no special interest group or lobbying firm owns me and 2) that I'm still drinking ~ 350mL of cheap rum or vodka every night. That's right, if elected U.S. Senator from KY I promise 100% sunshine: if you want to know how much I spend on toilet paper you'll only have to look at scanned copies of my store receipts.


I was with you until this. You're the Senator from KY and not drinking good Kentucky bourbon whiskey? That's it! I'm voting for the other guy!
 
2014-06-06 08:16:30 PM  
Don't give 4chan the idea to hand out hundreds of free laser pointers at something so intense as an inauguration. That would be a bad idea.
 
2014-06-06 08:27:50 PM  

Draq: Actually it's a federal offense because after a mile or two, the beam expands to fill the entire cockpit and literally blinds everyone inside. Like that asshole on a two lane highway coming at you with their high beams on. But what you said is a pretty good reason not to bring one to a presidential inauguration.


Did you post the right video?  The video states "flash blindness accuers within 1200 feet. But, I didn't see where it implied it would fill the cockpit and blind everyone. Regardless, commercial jet airplanes fly generally between 30,000 and 40,000 feet  I would imagine most idiots  who are doing this are trying to see if their laser can actually hit the plane. Unless their camping out at the airport when the plane is landing I don't see how it would be a problem Blinding the cabin. I still think it's a weapons thing. Not trying to be an ass, but it seems that way.
 
2014-06-06 08:48:55 PM  

ununcle: Draq: Actually it's a federal offense because after a mile or two, the beam expands to fill the entire cockpit and literally blinds everyone inside. Like that asshole on a two lane highway coming at you with their high beams on. But what you said is a pretty good reason not to bring one to a presidential inauguration.

Did you post the right video?  The video states "flash blindness accuers within 1200 feet. But, I didn't see where it implied it would fill the cockpit and blind everyone. Regardless, commercial jet airplanes fly generally between 30,000 and 40,000 feet  I would imagine most idiots  who are doing this are trying to see if their laser can actually hit the plane. Unless their camping out at the airport when the plane is landing I don't see how it would be a problem Blinding the cabin. I still think it's a weapons thing. Not trying to be an ass, but it seems that way.


You can see the laser is covering the pilot's entire face though. It's not as though you're hitting his pupil with a pupil sized dot from a mile away.
 
2014-06-06 09:06:30 PM  

OutsmartBullet: aerojockey: Seriously, it's marginal terrorism.  It's an attack that puts an aircraft at risk of crashing.

I must have missed the part where he engages in  the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims


Lasering someone in the eye is a violent act.  Anyone who disagrees is not even worth talking to.

As for political, we don't know why the guy did it, but I'll eat my hat if most of the people who shine lasers at police helicopters aren't anarchist and/or anti-police.

The only reason it's only marginal terrorism is because it's really ineffective way to bring an aircraft down.  So for the most part it's just farking with the cops (and farking with one cop isn't terrorism) but since it does the potential to cause a loss of aircraft (which inevitably would get widescale media attention) it is marginally terroristic.  Regardless of what you call it it's heinous and they really need to smack these people down.
 
2014-06-06 09:16:30 PM  

ununcle: Draq: Actually it's a federal offense because after a mile or two, the beam expands to fill the entire cockpit and literally blinds everyone inside. Like that asshole on a two lane highway coming at you with their high beams on. But what you said is a pretty good reason not to bring one to a presidential inauguration.

Did you post the right video?  The video states "flash blindness accuers within 1200 feet. But, I didn't see where it implied it would fill the cockpit and blind everyone. Regardless, commercial jet airplanes fly generally between 30,000 and 40,000 feet  I would imagine most idiots  who are doing this are trying to see if their laser can actually hit the plane. Unless their camping out at the airport when the plane is landing I don't see how it would be a problem Blinding the cabin. I still think it's a weapons thing. Not trying to be an ass, but it seems that way.


 Draq is correct.  It usually happens on approach/landing.  They point it at the cockpit and it does exactly what Draq says.

/airline pilot
//lasered once.  farkers...
 
2014-06-06 09:23:52 PM  

Draq: You can see the laser is covering the pilot's entire face though. It's not as though you're hitting his pupil with a pupil sized dot from a mile away.


Ahh. What amazes me is that someone on the ground could actually put a pupil sized dot on a plane 5 miles high. But according to google, they technically could. 40 to 60 miles? This is why we can't have nice things :)
 
2014-06-06 09:34:49 PM  
Does anyone else see the irony where shining lasers at aircraft is a federal crime, and a little over a dozen  stories down from this one the Senate appears to be allowing truckers to drive 82 instead of 70 hours in a week?

Not saying it is a good thing, but to my knowledge lasers have never caused the crash of an airplane, much less any fatalities. Can't say the same about tired truck drivers.
 
2014-06-06 10:11:02 PM  
What about news helicopters, is that OK?
 
2014-06-06 10:16:57 PM  

ununcle: Draq: You can see the laser is covering the pilot's entire face though. It's not as though you're hitting his pupil with a pupil sized dot from a mile away.

Ahh. What amazes me is that someone on the ground could actually put a pupil sized dot on a plane 5 miles high. But according to google, they technically could. 40 to 60 miles? This is why we can't have nice things :)


5 miles high? Not with a laser available to the general public i dont think.  I dont know what kind of laser could hit a plane that high. The majority of laser incidents that target commercial aircraft are during the approach/landing phase by some hooligan like the one in the article.  So thats anywhere from 0ft to 3000ft.  give or take. If we had nice things it would include a homing missile for such incidents. :p
 
2014-06-06 11:49:12 PM  

vodka: Honest question: what do police helicopters do when they're shot at? Because you know it happens and yet we never hear about it (because the perps get away?)


I'd bet if the craft actually got hit it would make a big story.  But I'd be willing to bet that most incidents of this the crew never even realizes some asshole just shot at them.  Even if they're only 500 feet in the air, the ballistics, wind, moving target, and I would imagine lack of real marksmanship on the part of anyone this stupid would make the chances of a direct hit very low.
 
2014-06-07 12:47:19 AM  
A few guys blown the fark up with anti laser HARMs will nip this trend in the bud.
 
2014-06-07 01:32:50 AM  

ununcle: Draq: You can see the laser is covering the pilot's entire face though. It's not as though you're hitting his pupil with a pupil sized dot from a mile away.

Ahh. What amazes me is that someone on the ground could actually put a pupil sized dot on a plane 5 miles high. But according to google, they technically could. 40 to 60 miles? This is why we can't have nice things :)


It does take much effort. Just point the laser at the plane and eventually it will hit the plane.
 
2014-06-07 01:33:41 AM  

Tobin_Lam: ununcle: Draq: You can see the laser is covering the pilot's entire face though. It's not as though you're hitting his pupil with a pupil sized dot from a mile away.

Ahh. What amazes me is that someone on the ground could actually put a pupil sized dot on a plane 5 miles high. But according to google, they technically could. 40 to 60 miles? This is why we can't have nice things :)

It does take much effort. Just point the laser at the plane and eventually it will hit the plane.


I mean, it doesn't take much effort.
 
2014-06-07 01:35:31 AM  

fusillade762: "Hey, let's get stoned and lase some aircraft!"


No.

You can get stoned while driving in your car, or playing your guitar.
 
2014-06-07 02:47:31 AM  
Literally everything on that page's sidebar is worthy of a greenlight. Keep up the good work, Tampa.

Speaking of getting stoned and being a goddam moron, "Polk man 'lost it,' throws crying baby".
 
2014-06-07 12:48:02 PM  

snortimer: 5 miles high? Not with a laser available to the general public i dont think.  I dont know what kind of laser could hit a plane that high. The majority of laser incidents that target commercial aircraft are during the approach/landing phase by some hooligan like the one in the article.  So thats anywhere from 0ft to 3000ft.  give or take. If we had nice things it would include a homing missile for such incidents. :p


Most of the lasers used in "lasing" incidents are bought by people looking for "high power" amateur lasers off of EBay or from scientific supply catalogs. Worst case is they are used at night, in minimum visual flying conditions, with or without the pilot using NVGs. If they have NVGs on, they risk burning out the optics and ruining an expensive piece of equipment, and endangering the aircraft as a result. If the pilot is flying without them, they risk blinding the pilot and killing the entire crew/losing the aircraft.
 
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