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2014-06-06 10:32:35 AM  

mschwenk: Even when violent crime is just as common in those countries.


Only if you use misleading statistics(that bundle more things into the term "violent crime" than the FBI does).  There are countries that have crime rates near the US, but they aren't the ones issuing the warnings.
 
2014-06-06 10:32:47 AM  

zedster: AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Tenga: Reports are that someone got all stabby instead.

BAN ALL KNIVES!!1!

At least SOMEONE read the article instead of going with the typical knee-jerk reaction like everyone above you did.

Posted 9:18 am, June 6, 2014, by Becca Mitchell, Updated at 09:55am, June 6, 2014

The information that it was a stabbing and not a shooting was added around 9:30


And all comments here were after 9:30.
 
2014-06-06 10:33:05 AM  
topcon Nevermind the fact if it WAS a shooting, homicides by guns have been dropping for over 20 years.  But hurr, let's keep feigning anger over shootings.

Shootings still seem significant, per this chart, so your enthusiasm may be premature.


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expand ed_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls
 
2014-06-06 10:33:41 AM  

MFK: you don't "need" a gun. You "want" them. You "covet" them. You really really "love" them. But you don't "need" one.


Until you do. And then you "really" need one.
 
2014-06-06 10:33:47 AM  

ikanreed: tricycleracer: If I lived in a different country and was planning my summer vacation, I'd probably just cross USA off my list of possibilities.

No joke: many countries warn their tourists coming to the US about gun violence.


All you have to do is avoid the liberal paradises when you come here and you'll be safe.
 
2014-06-06 10:33:50 AM  

Target Builder: Is this really news?

Sure, when mass shootings were a biannual event they were newsworthy, and maybe still when they ended up as biannual events, when they got to bimonthly the newsworthiness really dipped, and even moreso when they started happening bimonthly. When they started being a biweekly event, and then even turned into biweekly events... it's just shiat that happens these days.


Mass shootings according to the FBI have not statistically increased. Some stupid liberal think tanks twisted some numbers to prove an assertion, but those without a political slant say no statistical increase.
 
2014-06-06 10:34:00 AM  

Dimensio: I have observed sufficient postings from "conservative" leaning Farkers to be aware that "facts" in general are anathema to most Fark posters.

/I will take screenshots from this discussion to use later after the mods delete this thread.


Shhh, I'm trying to prove that EXACT point here. It's like reading the comments section of Fox News about anything pertaining to the president. It's so lovely pointing things like this out and watch them try to dance around and spin it when they've been stone cold busted.

Alas, the trap was sprung prematurely.
 
2014-06-06 10:34:51 AM  

Into the blue again: http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2014


there was a nice big gap between 1/6 - 1/11 with none.  must have been bad weather.  and from 3/25 to 4/2.
 
2014-06-06 10:35:07 AM  
Anti-gun Farkers are shown as the idiots they are....it was a stabbing. So I guess there is a need to ban all knives as there is no real use for them....
 
2014-06-06 10:35:09 AM  
Today I learned that because some crimes are committed with knives, gun laws are unnecessary.

This is what the gun-juggalos actually believe.
 
2014-06-06 10:35:14 AM  

MFK: Giltric: MFK: Giltric: Target Builder: Is this really news?

Sure, when mass shootings were a biannual event they were newsworthy, and maybe still when they ended up as biannual events, when they got to bimonthly the newsworthiness really dipped, and even moreso when they started happening bimonthly. When they started being a biweekly event, and then even turned into biweekly events... it's just shiat that happens these days.

Mass shootings were never bi annual events.

Mass shootings occurred all the time, the majority of them is when someone kills their spouse, kids and self.

What was bi annual was the spree killer.....but who is content with only having 2 sensationalist stories a year, that never helps push an agenda, so they now make sure they report every shooting that the FBI counts under a mass shooting criteria which is 4 people shot.

So now every bad gang shooting, every drug deal gone bad (like the one from black bike week in myrtle beach last week) every domestic incident where 4 people are shot is reported on so you confuse it with an Aurora theater or Sandy Hook type event.

yeah yeah, Giltric, we know. You have a gun fetish and will go to great lengths to minimize all of the killings that happen just so you can continue to fondle your firearms.

Well if it is such a violent world out there with mass shooting happening every time someone blinks then why would you want to disarm me? By the rhetoric that gets spouted by the gun control types you just further reinforce that I need a gun.

you don't "need" a gun. You "want" them. You "covet" them. You really really "love" them. But you don't "need" one.


There are lots of things people dont need.

You dont seem to be qualified to make that decision for other people though.

Sorry you just arent as important as you think you are.
 
2014-06-06 10:35:26 AM  

Satan's Superfluous Nipple: ikanreed: tricycleracer: If I lived in a different country and was planning my summer vacation, I'd probably just cross USA off my list of possibilities.

No joke: many countries warn their tourists coming to the US about gun violence.

All you have to do is avoid the liberal paradises when you come here and you'll be safe.


Yes, being a French tourist in the middle of Mississippi is much safer.
 
2014-06-06 10:35:54 AM  
i1207.photobucket.com
good one, subby.
 
2014-06-06 10:35:56 AM  

Hobodeluxe: we had this happen in our region yesterday


his gun was literally removed from his cold dead hand
 
2014-06-06 10:36:16 AM  

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For a knife crime?

Well arent you stupid.


The only knife crime I've seen is when my wife used one of my nice santoku knives to open a goddamn shipping box from Amazon. She had previously used one to cut up a frozen pizza on a metal pizza pan.

She just doesn't understand.
 
2014-06-06 10:36:36 AM  

msqualia: Nidiot: msqualia: fatty.fauntleroy: This was a pretty fun exercise in how the media manipulates the mindset of the masses.  The original story was completely wrong, but those who wanted to get spun up, did...and won't soon spin down.  It's fun to see how that dynamic works.

There've been two mass shootings in as many weeks.  You can't blame people for believing there might be another one and still being resentful from the last couple.

Judging by the comments still coming in, reading and getting facts is not what a certain group of people is interested in.

You must be so thrilled to be correct about something.

What almost certainly happened was that the campus was shut down using the same protocol they use for an active shooter.  I've worked at an institution.  If they want us to lock the doors and stay away from the windows and move the clients to the center of the building, we just get a phone call that says "possible active shooter" so they can hang up and call the next building.  It's quicker than "someone got stabbed and we don't know if they've got a gun or if they want to break in."  If someone texts their boyfriend or something and they call the press, that's what gets out first.

And again, we're getting one mass every 7-30 days.  The "facts" aren't otherwise flattering to you, bro.



And we have been for decades:
www.boston.com
This is not a recent phenomenon.
 
2014-06-06 10:36:55 AM  

Witness99: mschwenk: AspectRatio: Take action now.
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Congratulations!


My favorite new filter.
 
2014-06-06 10:37:11 AM  
A thread full of stupid this is.
 
2014-06-06 10:37:25 AM  

SlothB77: Into the blue again: http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2014

there was a nice big gap between 1/6 - 1/11 with none.  must have been bad weather.  and from 3/25 to 4/2.


a nice break with just your standard kids accidentally killing themselves and your run of the mill murders and related gun crimes
 
2014-06-06 10:37:36 AM  

Dimensio: Witness99: mschwenk: AspectRatio: Take action now.
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I'm pregnant

Congratulations!

What, exactly, triggers this new filter?


zero slash ten.
 
2014-06-06 10:37:38 AM  
Another false flag? Operation yank their knives going according to plan!
 
2014-06-06 10:37:53 AM  

det0321: topcon Nevermind the fact if it WAS a shooting, homicides by guns have been dropping for over 20 years.  But hurr, let's keep feigning anger over shootings.

Shootings still seem significant, per this chart, so your enthusiasm may be premature.


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expand ed_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2008-2012.xls


Yeah, the murder rate seems to be falling, but the proportion of murders which are committed with guns are about the same (between 65% and 69%).  Saying that gun murders are going down without mentioning that all murders are going down and the percent of murders which are committed with guns are about the same is misleading.

/lies, damn lies and statistics
 
2014-06-06 10:38:32 AM  

ferretman: Anti-gun Farkers are shown as the idiots they are....it was a stabbing. So I guess there is a need to ban all knives as there is no real use for them....


I think our deepest fears have been realized: someone invented a gun that shoots knives.
 
2014-06-06 10:38:45 AM  

Witness99: Rusty Shackleford: R.A.Danny: Now for the lamentation and heartbreak that it was a stabbing and no assault rifles were involved.

To be fair, we don't yet know if the suspect had a gun that shoots knives.

I heard it was a bayonet on the end of a light saber.



i65.photobucket.com
 
MFK
2014-06-06 10:39:33 AM  

Giltric: MFK: Giltric: MFK: Giltric: Target Builder: Is this really news?

Sure, when mass shootings were a biannual event they were newsworthy, and maybe still when they ended up as biannual events, when they got to bimonthly the newsworthiness really dipped, and even moreso when they started happening bimonthly. When they started being a biweekly event, and then even turned into biweekly events... it's just shiat that happens these days.

Mass shootings were never bi annual events.

Mass shootings occurred all the time, the majority of them is when someone kills their spouse, kids and self.

What was bi annual was the spree killer.....but who is content with only having 2 sensationalist stories a year, that never helps push an agenda, so they now make sure they report every shooting that the FBI counts under a mass shooting criteria which is 4 people shot.

So now every bad gang shooting, every drug deal gone bad (like the one from black bike week in myrtle beach last week) every domestic incident where 4 people are shot is reported on so you confuse it with an Aurora theater or Sandy Hook type event.

yeah yeah, Giltric, we know. You have a gun fetish and will go to great lengths to minimize all of the killings that happen just so you can continue to fondle your firearms.

Well if it is such a violent world out there with mass shooting happening every time someone blinks then why would you want to disarm me? By the rhetoric that gets spouted by the gun control types you just further reinforce that I need a gun.

you don't "need" a gun. You "want" them. You "covet" them. You really really "love" them. But you don't "need" one.

There are lots of things people dont need.

You dont seem to be qualified to make that decision for other people though.

Sorry you just arent as important as you think you are.


and you, my friend, are a part of the problem. Have a nice day.
 
2014-06-06 10:39:47 AM  

give me doughnuts: msqualia: Nidiot: msqualia: fatty.fauntleroy: This was a pretty fun exercise in how the media manipulates the mindset of the masses.  The original story was completely wrong, but those who wanted to get spun up, did...and won't soon spin down.  It's fun to see how that dynamic works.

There've been two mass shootings in as many weeks.  You can't blame people for believing there might be another one and still being resentful from the last couple.

Judging by the comments still coming in, reading and getting facts is not what a certain group of people is interested in.

You must be so thrilled to be correct about something.

What almost certainly happened was that the campus was shut down using the same protocol they use for an active shooter.  I've worked at an institution.  If they want us to lock the doors and stay away from the windows and move the clients to the center of the building, we just get a phone call that says "possible active shooter" so they can hang up and call the next building.  It's quicker than "someone got stabbed and we don't know if they've got a gun or if they want to break in."  If someone texts their boyfriend or something and they call the press, that's what gets out first.

And again, we're getting one mass every 7-30 days.  The "facts" aren't otherwise flattering to you, bro.


And we have been for decades:
[www.boston.com image 481x289]
This is not a recent phenomenon.


Oh, OK, so we've been putting up for this for an even more ridiculously long period of time than I'd recalled.  Great.

Next you're going to tell me that the real problem is that the media covers it.
 
2014-06-06 10:39:53 AM  
The know he's an active shooter because they found a bunch of exercise videos in his house.
 
2014-06-06 10:39:59 AM  

msqualia: Nidiot: msqualia: fatty.fauntleroy: This was a pretty fun exercise in how the media manipulates the mindset of the masses.  The original story was completely wrong, but those who wanted to get spun up, did...and won't soon spin down.  It's fun to see how that dynamic works.

There've been two mass shootings in as many weeks.  You can't blame people for believing there might be another one and still being resentful from the last couple.

Judging by the comments still coming in, reading and getting facts is not what a certain group of people is interested in.

You must be so thrilled to be correct about something.

What almost certainly happened was that the campus was shut down using the same protocol they use for an active shooter.  I've worked at an institution.  If they want us to lock the doors and stay away from the windows and move the clients to the center of the building, we just get a phone call that says "possible active shooter" so they can hang up and call the next building.  It's quicker than "someone got stabbed and we don't know if they've got a gun or if they want to break in."  If someone texts their boyfriend or something and they call the press, that's what gets out first.

And again, we're getting one mass every 7-30 days.  The "facts" aren't otherwise flattering to you, bro.


Well get to the point then, are you pro or anti gun?

All I'm noticing is the instant there is the slightest opportunity people are going "oh guns... quick... I get to do my rant on guns", regardless of what the story is.
 
2014-06-06 10:40:22 AM  

MFAWG: Mudgen: So, can we finally begin a discussion about high capacity pocket knives?

fark it. A pocket knife has uses besides stabbing something. A gun has literally NO OTHER PURPOSE than to kill something. Every other use it has is to practice killing something.

So just stop it. It's a stupid talking point, and you should feel stupid.


Bless your heart.  "Literally".  Really.  So target shooting does not exist.  Any way, it was just snark about posting a shooter alert for a stabbing.
 
2014-06-06 10:40:25 AM  
Shooter?  Subby must work for CNN.

Lemme guess, subject is described at 8.9 foot tall, purple, wearing a Sherman tank and hung like a hamster?
 
2014-06-06 10:40:53 AM  

give me doughnuts: msqualia: Nidiot: msqualia: fatty.fauntleroy: This was a pretty fun exercise in how the media manipulates the mindset of the masses.  The original story was completely wrong, but those who wanted to get spun up, did...and won't soon spin down.  It's fun to see how that dynamic works.

There've been two mass shootings in as many weeks.  You can't blame people for believing there might be another one and still being resentful from the last couple.

Judging by the comments still coming in, reading and getting facts is not what a certain group of people is interested in.

You must be so thrilled to be correct about something.

What almost certainly happened was that the campus was shut down using the same protocol they use for an active shooter.  I've worked at an institution.  If they want us to lock the doors and stay away from the windows and move the clients to the center of the building, we just get a phone call that says "possible active shooter" so they can hang up and call the next building.  It's quicker than "someone got stabbed and we don't know if they've got a gun or if they want to break in."  If someone texts their boyfriend or something and they call the press, that's what gets out first.

And again, we're getting one mass every 7-30 days.  The "facts" aren't otherwise flattering to you, bro.


And we have been for decades:

This is not a recent phenomenon.


Oh, well that's alright then.
 
2014-06-06 10:41:36 AM  

dr_blasto: Giltric: AspectRatio: Take action now.
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For a knife crime?

Well arent you stupid.

The only knife crime I've seen is when my wife used one of my nice santoku knives to open a goddamn shipping box from Amazon. She had previously used one to cut up a frozen pizza on a metal pizza pan.

She just doesn't understand.


One of the best knives i have is over 100 years old with prussian proofmarks. It allows me to cut meat imto paper thin slices that i can lay across a salt block to "cook".

My wife was using it to unscrew the back of a remote control for my grandsons remote control car.

Im talking so thin you can see through the carpaccio.
 
2014-06-06 10:41:40 AM  

NightOwl2255: MFK: you don't "need" a gun. You "want" them. You "covet" them. You really really "love" them. But you don't "need" one.

Until you do. And then you "really" need one.


Well I can't throw rocks well enough to get the birds out of the sky, so I do NEED them to hunt.
 
2014-06-06 10:41:44 AM  

Nidiot: All I'm noticing is the instant there is the slightest opportunity people are going "oh guns... quick... I get to do my rant on guns", regardless of what the story is.


You are learning the way of The Fark, young Padawan.
 
2014-06-06 10:42:24 AM  

topcon: menschenfresser: topcon: menschenfresser: And there are people out there who think ubiquitous firearms are what keep "gubmint" from "taking away our freedumbs" or something. Uh huh. Well what about the freedom the rest of us have not to live in a perpetual mass murder society? Fark your "rights" to deadly weapons. And fark you too if you think you have a "right" to force this kind of third-world murderocracy on the rest of us.

Hey, cletus, I hate to break it to you, but the murder rate keeps going down.

http://www.fark.com/comments/8286906/Gun-homicides-have-actually-gon e- down-once-again-proving-Fark-liberals-wrong-about-gun-control

And if that's true then it's obviously because we have guns everywhere. It just makes sense. I mean, I've noticed that the more insecticide I use, the more insects I have. The more fat I eat, the thinner I become. The more alcohol we drink, the more sober we are. It all makes equal sense so there's definitely a correlation here.

I did not claim nor do I think the presence of guns is why the murder rate is dropping and HAS dropped since the early 90's.  It is, however, a fact, which I know you can't stand being true.


Well I'm glad that we can agree that my goal and desire is for there to be more innocent people murdered. Clearly that's what I want.

I'm glad if the homicide rate is dropping, of course. And if it is then it's doing so in spite of the ubiquity of deadly firearms, and would almost certainly drop much farther in their absence. I hope it continues to fall despite the firearms-worshiping wild west town society we've been forced to live in.
 
2014-06-06 10:44:04 AM  
did the knife have a bayonet lug? a pistol grip?
 
2014-06-06 10:44:06 AM  

MFK: Giltric: MFK: Giltric: MFK: Giltric: Target Builder: Is this really news?

Sure, when mass shootings were a biannual event they were newsworthy, and maybe still when they ended up as biannual events, when they got to bimonthly the newsworthiness really dipped, and even moreso when they started happening bimonthly. When they started being a biweekly event, and then even turned into biweekly events... it's just shiat that happens these days.

Mass shootings were never bi annual events.

Mass shootings occurred all the time, the majority of them is when someone kills their spouse, kids and self.

What was bi annual was the spree killer.....but who is content with only having 2 sensationalist stories a year, that never helps push an agenda, so they now make sure they report every shooting that the FBI counts under a mass shooting criteria which is 4 people shot.

So now every bad gang shooting, every drug deal gone bad (like the one from black bike week in myrtle beach last week) every domestic incident where 4 people are shot is reported on so you confuse it with an Aurora theater or Sandy Hook type event.

yeah yeah, Giltric, we know. You have a gun fetish and will go to great lengths to minimize all of the killings that happen just so you can continue to fondle your firearms.

Well if it is such a violent world out there with mass shooting happening every time someone blinks then why would you want to disarm me? By the rhetoric that gets spouted by the gun control types you just further reinforce that I need a gun.

you don't "need" a gun. You "want" them. You "covet" them. You really really "love" them. But you don't "need" one.

There are lots of things people dont need.

You dont seem to be qualified to make that decision for other people though.

Sorry you just arent as important as you think you are.

and you, my friend, are a part of the problem. Have a nice day.


Ironic.
 
2014-06-06 10:44:35 AM  

msqualia: Saying that gun murders are going down without mentioning that all murders are going down and the percent of murders which are committed with guns are about the same is misleading.



No, it's not. It is perfectly accurate.
It's the people who blame the tool used and not the murderer, that see it as misleading.

www.gorillalol.com
 
2014-06-06 10:45:18 AM  
AspectRatio

Today I learned that because some crimes are committed with knives, gun laws are unnecessary.

Did anyone suggest repealing all the firearms laws in this country? A single person?
 
2014-06-06 10:46:01 AM  

Nidiot: msqualia: Nidiot: msqualia: fatty.fauntleroy: This was a pretty fun exercise in how the media manipulates the mindset of the masses.  The original story was completely wrong, but those who wanted to get spun up, did...and won't soon spin down.  It's fun to see how that dynamic works.

There've been two mass shootings in as many weeks.  You can't blame people for believing there might be another one and still being resentful from the last couple.

Judging by the comments still coming in, reading and getting facts is not what a certain group of people is interested in.

You must be so thrilled to be correct about something.

What almost certainly happened was that the campus was shut down using the same protocol they use for an active shooter.  I've worked at an institution.  If they want us to lock the doors and stay away from the windows and move the clients to the center of the building, we just get a phone call that says "possible active shooter" so they can hang up and call the next building.  It's quicker than "someone got stabbed and we don't know if they've got a gun or if they want to break in."  If someone texts their boyfriend or something and they call the press, that's what gets out first.

And again, we're getting one mass every 7-30 days.  The "facts" aren't otherwise flattering to you, bro.

Well get to the point then, are you pro or anti gun?

All I'm noticing is the instant there is the slightest opportunity people are going "oh guns... quick... I get to do my rant on guns", regardless of what the story is.


I don't think it's useful to banish all nuance by boiling anyone's position down to "pro" or "anti" gun.

I think Australia's gun control policy is about what I'd like to see here.  It's very effective.

I think the NRA, as the people most responsible for radicalizing the conversation, can collectively jump off a bridge.
 
2014-06-06 10:46:15 AM  

give me doughnuts: And we have been for decades:
www.boston.com


do you have a source for that data?  That's the kind of thing that I like keeping in my back pocket.
 
2014-06-06 10:46:21 AM  
i wonder how many people that scream about the nsa and their right to privacy being violated 180 and scream to ban guns to keep them safe.
 
2014-06-06 10:46:22 AM  
People finally snapping all over the country?
 
2014-06-06 10:46:47 AM  
A stabbing in Portsmouth ?   Well that's not really news.

That is what we call 'starting the weekend'...
 
2014-06-06 10:47:05 AM  

Giltric: Its always the stupid farkers who haven't read the article or thread who wants more gun laws passed.

Why should we listen to you again?


So you would have considered the outcome to have been better if this guy had a gun instead of a knife.  This a perfect example of the absence of gun improving outcomes.
 
2014-06-06 10:47:05 AM  

msqualia: Next you're going to tell me that the real problem is that the media covers it.



No, I'm just saying that this is not a new problem.
 
2014-06-06 10:47:13 AM  

mrshowrules: SlothB77: Into the blue again: http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2014

there was a nice big gap between 1/6 - 1/11 with none.  must have been bad weather.  and from 3/25 to 4/2.

a nice break with just your standard kids accidentally killing themselves and your run of the mill murders and related gun crimes


Why is it called gun crime? Most of it involves gangs and drugs. Why don't you call it gang or drug crime?
 
2014-06-06 10:47:51 AM  
I know we all love a good circle jerk, but there are over 10,000 gun homicides in the US every year, or an average of at least 27 a day. I'm not going to look up the official number, but it's higher than that.

So, rather than freaking out every time the news media decides there's nothing more interesting to report, why don't we have a real discussion about realistic policy in a country of 300,000,000 people?
 
2014-06-06 10:48:21 AM  
I've heard of medical specialization, but an entire hospital dedicated to bellybuttons seems a bit extreme.
 
2014-06-06 10:49:01 AM  

msqualia: I think Australia's gun control policy is about what I'd like to see here.  It's very effective.


A complete ban on all magazine-fed semi-automatic rifles, with mandatory surrender of currently owned rifles, is unreasonable and is Constitutionally dubious.

The state of California, which the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence ranks "highest" in their gun control idealism, could not even succeed in passing a ban on the transfer of magazine-fed semi-automatic rifles without a confiscation clause.
 
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