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(Politico)   Male model pretends to be coal miner, thinks he has the black lung, pops   (politico.com) divider line 77
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2014-06-05 11:58:27 PM  
mynethome.net
 
2014-06-06 12:12:19 AM  
Coal needs to be phased out as a fuel source

/sorry about that whole technological advances thing
 
2014-06-06 12:15:12 AM  
media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com
 
2014-06-06 12:23:10 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Coal needs to be phased out as a fuel source

/sorry about that whole technological advances thing


Yes, but on a small scale, it is okay. Burning coal is okay if you are burning a few hundred or a few thousand pounds - but burning hundreds or thousands of tons of it becomes a problem.
 
2014-06-06 12:46:33 AM  
Oh noes! She used a stock photo! Impeach Obama now!
 
2014-06-06 01:00:20 AM  

propasaurus: Oh noes! She used a stock photo! Impeach Obama now!


Clearly the whole "coal exhaust fumes are bad for you" thing is a hoax. We should be giving kids burning coal for school lunches instead of that "healthy" crap Moochella is pushing.
 
2014-06-06 01:04:28 AM  

MrBallou: propasaurus: Oh noes! She used a stock photo! Impeach Obama now!

Clearly the whole "coal exhaust fumes are bad for you" thing is a hoax. We should be giving kids burning coal for school lunches instead of that "healthy" crap Moochella is pushing.


Trees put out more coal exhaust fumes than burning coal does.
 
2014-06-06 01:24:29 AM  

propasaurus: MrBallou: propasaurus: Oh noes! She used a stock photo! Impeach Obama now!

Clearly the whole "coal exhaust fumes are bad for you" thing is a hoax. We should be giving kids burning coal for school lunches instead of that "healthy" crap Moochella is pushing.

Trees put out more coal exhaust fumes than burning coal does.


Ban trees, too, then. Logging companies have lobbyists with families to support, too, you know.

Obongo likes trees (jungle instincts, if you know what I'm sayin'). Real Merkins should push for a Constitutional Amendment to stop him.
 
2014-06-06 01:39:12 AM  

vernonFL: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Coal needs to be phased out as a fuel source

/sorry about that whole technological advances thing

Yes, but on a small scale, it is okay. Burning coal is okay if you are burning a few hundred or a few thousand pounds - but burning hundreds or thousands of tons of it becomes a problem.


true
My dad tells me AWESOME Stories about chicago back when everyone burned coal in their houses.
Because everyone was burning such a small amount it was TOTALLY FINE.

no wait, 100,000s of people all burning coal at home?
that would explain all the coughing up black shiat

/time to build more nuke plants already FFS
 
2014-06-06 01:46:16 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-06 01:54:18 AM  
 
2014-06-06 02:38:57 AM  
I was a little kid in NYC before coal was banned (late 60s), and every time it snowed it looked pretty for about 20 minutes, after which it would become heavily speckled in soot.

I soon realized why everyone wore hats at the time.
 
2014-06-06 02:43:47 AM  
If there is such a thing as "clean coal", then why haven't we been harvesting it all this time?

The miners would save a FORTUNE on laundry.
 
2014-06-06 04:26:33 AM  
A model IDIOT?!
 
2014-06-06 04:35:06 AM  

TommyymmoT: I was a little kid in NYC before coal was banned (late 60s), and every time it snowed it looked pretty for about 20 minutes, after which it would become heavily speckled in soot.

I soon realized why everyone wore hats at the time.


I'm far too young to remember it, of course, but a century ago in St. Louis, when people still heated their homes with coal, the street lights were left on all day, so that people could see where they were going.  The air was THAT dark.
 
2014-06-06 04:38:37 AM  
Wait, the photo never went to print?
 
2014-06-06 04:42:40 AM  
The stock photograph could undermine Grimes's messaging as Republicans raise doubts about the authenticity of her pro-coal position.

Um... how?  I'm pretty sure the coal miners, like everyone else, probably find their co-workers less attractive than the average model.

TommyymmoT: If there is such a thing as "clean coal", then why haven't we been harvesting it all this time?

The miners would save a FORTUNE on laundry.


Clean coal is in fact pretty clean.  No soot, little to none of the active acid rain components.

Still issues with trace elements that aren't easy to filter for, like larger particulates, the radioactives, and obviously there's no way to prevent CO2 from being emitted, but it is substantially different from the minimum-legal-standard method of coal power that was previously dominant.

Obviously it's still not the greatest thing for the environment and most of our other energy sources are less polluting, but it is in fact a thing, and nirvana fallacying all over the thread won't randomly make it not a thing, it just makes it obvious that you don't know anything about energy issues.  Which I guess is OK, but I'm not sure why you need to tell  us that you know nothing about energy, we could probably just assume that if you said nothing.

// It has nothing to do with the coal mining, it's a question of how it's burned.
 
2014-06-06 04:45:58 AM  

TommyymmoT: I was a little kid in NYC before coal was banned (late 60s), and every time it snowed it looked pretty for about 20 minutes, after which it would become heavily speckled in soot.

I soon realized why everyone wore hats at the time.


Oh, how I remember that. Living on Staten Island it wasn't as bad, but while visiting Manhattan my eyes would burn. Especially near Big Alice.
 
2014-06-06 04:52:04 AM  

propasaurus: MrBallou: propasaurus: Oh noes! She used a stock photo! Impeach Obama now!

Clearly the whole "coal exhaust fumes are bad for you" thing is a hoax. We should be giving kids burning coal for school lunches instead of that "healthy" crap Moochella is pushing.

Trees put out more coal exhaust fumes than burning coal does.


Only if you burn them, Mr. Disingenuous.
 
2014-06-06 05:00:50 AM  
why is this an article again?
 
2014-06-06 05:02:39 AM  

namatad: [img.fark.net image 850x364] (go nuke power go)


I do agree that nukular power is better for everyone than coal. But let's point out that the Chernobyl incident occurred in what was a largely sparsely occupied woodland with at the time of the disaster 120,000 people living in a thirty km radius - or for your anachronistic Imperial measurements, 1000 square miles.

That's enough to swallow three NYC's.
 
2014-06-06 05:05:51 AM  

log_jammin: why is this an article again?


To make sure people see a 'mistake' that was caught before anyone saw it?
 
2014-06-06 05:14:07 AM  

starsrift: That's enough to swallow three NYC's.

 

is it really even sensible to respond to a jpg textual argument....that's apparently arguing with hippies.

as if the granola lobby was somehow relevant, or swinging a big contextual stick, or something.

i'm not even sure what the hell fallacy that bait-and-topical-switch would be, but i'm sure it's comprised of at least 3 latin words.
 
2014-06-06 05:24:26 AM  

Alphax: To make sure people see a 'mistake' that was caught before anyone saw it?


I'm leaning towards "to manufacture controversy where none exists".
 
2014-06-06 05:25:33 AM  
I only vape my coal. No soot, no ash, no smoke, only vapor with a hint of peppermint.
 
2014-06-06 05:25:38 AM  

log_jammin: Alphax: To make sure people see a 'mistake' that was caught before anyone saw it?

I'm leaning towards "to manufacture controversy where none exists".


Which is pretty much the same thing.
 
2014-06-06 05:48:20 AM  
Coal smoke is nasty. If you cook it down to coke on a forge, the smoke's chlorine green and heavier than air.

toolmakingart.com
 
2014-06-06 05:50:28 AM  

heap: starsrift: That's enough to swallow three NYC's.

is it really even sensible to respond to a jpg textual argument....that's apparently arguing with hippies.
as if the granola lobby was somehow relevant, or swinging a big contextual stick, or something.
i'm not even sure what the hell fallacy that bait-and-topical-switch would be, but i'm sure it's comprised of at least 3 latin words.


Well, according to TFA, the granola lobby has Obama and Sen. Reid in their pocket. *shrug*
Debatable. Decent point.
 
2014-06-06 06:05:43 AM  
Fark coal. And fark Kentucky if they don't want to join us in the future, and want to continue burning ancient plants to power their shiat.
 
2014-06-06 06:12:42 AM  

mongbiohazard: Fark coal. And fark Kentucky if they don't want to join us in the future, and want to continue burning ancient plants to power their shiat.


Politicians blather and scare people who work in the mines into think they're going to lose their jobs.
 
2014-06-06 06:20:57 AM  
Who cares? Burning coal is stupid and 20th century.
 
2014-06-06 06:21:17 AM  

A Terrible Human: mongbiohazard: Fark coal. And fark Kentucky if they don't want to join us in the future, and want to continue burning ancient plants to power their shiat.

Politicians blather and scare people who work in the mines into think they're going to lose their jobs.


A coal mining job.. you'd think that's one of the best possible jobs to lose.  That, or elephant proctologist.
 
2014-06-06 06:23:45 AM  

Alphax: A Terrible Human: mongbiohazard: Fark coal. And fark Kentucky if they don't want to join us in the future, and want to continue burning ancient plants to power their shiat.

Politicians blather and scare people who work in the mines into think they're going to lose their jobs.

A coal mining job.. you'd think that's one of the best possible jobs to lose.  That, or elephant proctologist.


Elephant proctologist is actually an excellent vocation for transitioning coal miners. A lot of the same skills apply.
 
2014-06-06 06:26:20 AM  
Hurr this is THE LEFT'S version of James O'Keefe DURR
 
2014-06-06 06:57:25 AM  

Alphax: A Terrible Human: mongbiohazard: Fark coal. And fark Kentucky if they don't want to join us in the future, and want to continue burning ancient plants to power their shiat.

Politicians blather and scare people who work in the mines into think they're going to lose their jobs.

A coal mining job.. you'd think that's one of the best possible jobs to lose.  That, or elephant proctologist.


Not in the areas where the jobs are at. Compared to a lot of stuff in these areas coal mining is pretty good pay.
 
2014-06-06 07:00:14 AM  

A Terrible Human: Not in the areas where the jobs are at. Compared to a lot of stuff in these areas coal mining is pretty good pay.


When you're knocking decades off your life span, I guess the pay goes to your family.
 
2014-06-06 07:05:11 AM  
I'm really glad Grimes was called out on this. Putting models in ads to promote a message is a criminal act of false advertising.
 
2014-06-06 07:14:30 AM  
Politico isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
 
2014-06-06 07:15:39 AM  

A Terrible Human: Alphax: A Terrible Human: mongbiohazard: Fark coal. And fark Kentucky if they don't want to join us in the future, and want to continue burning ancient plants to power their shiat.

Politicians blather and scare people who work in the mines into think they're going to lose their jobs.

A coal mining job.. you'd think that's one of the best possible jobs to lose.  That, or elephant proctologist.

Not in the areas where the jobs are at. Compared to a lot of stuff in these areas coal mining is pretty good pay.


That's the devil of extraction industries - it's lucrative to areas that don't have an otherwise robust economy.  The problem is, the negative effects of resource extraction don't manifest right away.   But eventually, poorly-managed industry and growth have a compound effect on our environment.  I highly recommend the first section of Jared Diamond's Collapse, discussing how industry in Montana impacted the environment.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-06-06 07:20:59 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: I'm really glad Grimes was called out on this. Putting models in ads to promote a message is a criminal act of false advertising.


Good thing that photo wasn't used in the ad.
 
2014-06-06 07:26:09 AM  

UNC_Samurai: rzrwiresunrise: I'm really glad Grimes was called out on this. Putting models in ads to promote a message is a criminal act of false advertising.

Good thing that photo wasn't used in the ad.


Psh, MAN, can you imagine if it had been???? The LIES??? The DECEIT???? The MENDACITY????
 
2014-06-06 07:47:04 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: I'm really glad Grimes was called out on this. Putting models in ads to promote a message is a criminal act of false advertising.


See also: "DUMBOCRAT POLITICAL CAMPAIGN PAYS TENS OF THOUSANDS FOR PHOTOSHOOT IN ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF USELESS LIBERAL SPENDING WHEN $15 ISTOCK PHOTO WOULD HAVE DONE THE TRICK"
 
2014-06-06 07:48:36 AM  

UNC_Samurai: A Terrible Human: Alphax: A Terrible Human: mongbiohazard: Fark coal. And fark Kentucky if they don't want to join us in the future, and want to continue burning ancient plants to power their shiat.

Politicians blather and scare people who work in the mines into think they're going to lose their jobs.

A coal mining job.. you'd think that's one of the best possible jobs to lose.  That, or elephant proctologist.

Not in the areas where the jobs are at. Compared to a lot of stuff in these areas coal mining is pretty good pay.

That's the devil of extraction industries - it's lucrative to areas that don't have an otherwise robust economy.  The problem is, the negative effects of resource extraction don't manifest right away.   But eventually, poorly-managed industry and growth have a compound effect on our environment.  I highly recommend the first section of Jared Diamond's Collapse, discussing how industry in Montana impacted the environment.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 326x500]


I already know that coal mining is terrible for the environment and people. My grandfather had black lung from working in the mines 22 years. Hell the place I grew up at was at one time the garbage dump for Hard and Burly coal mining camp.
 
2014-06-06 07:52:36 AM  
These morons never understand it's the greedy fossil fuel companies they work for that are the real enemy.
legalinsurrection.com
 
2014-06-06 08:14:07 AM  
If you "got it" you'd be trying to find ways to help move your state and districts beyond coal and into today's paying industries, not clinging desperately to a pre-modern fuel that's expensive, dirty, dangerous and on its last legs as a major energy source.

Coal is dying because coal is non-competetive, not because the black guy and his libooral friends want to put your uncle out of a job. Get the fark over it and move on or face the same fate as people who clung to whale oil until it was too late.
 
2014-06-06 08:20:00 AM  

starsrift: namatad: [img.fark.net image 850x364] (go nuke power go)

I do agree that nukular power is better for everyone than coal. But let's point out that the Chernobyl incident occurred in what was a largely sparsely occupied woodland with at the time of the disaster 120,000 people living in a thirty km radius - or for your anachronistic Imperial measurements, 1000 square miles.

That's enough to swallow three NYC's.


What I don't understand is why every rooftop in the U.S. that can have solar panels?  That is such a waste of free energy.  Of course I think the "free" part is the major problem, as in you can make it yourself and it makes you less dependent on for profit energy producers.
 
2014-06-06 08:39:23 AM  

Alphax: TommyymmoT: I was a little kid in NYC before coal was banned (late 60s), and every time it snowed it looked pretty for about 20 minutes, after which it would become heavily speckled in soot.

I soon realized why everyone wore hats at the time.

I'm far too young to remember it, of course, but a century ago in St. Louis, when people still heated their homes with coal, the street lights were left on all day, so that people could see where they were going.  The air was THAT dark.


London, 1952.
 
2014-06-06 08:49:45 AM  
Sure beats hiring one of those real miners. They are all dirty and poor. Who wants to deal with the poors, they are gross.
 
2014-06-06 08:54:16 AM  

REO-Weedwagon: These morons never understand it's the greedy fossil fuel companies they work for that are the real enemy.
[legalinsurrection.com image 604x440]


"His face is even blah-er than mine!"
 
2014-06-06 09:00:38 AM  

starsrift: 120,000 people living in a thirty km radius - or for your anachronistic Imperial measurements, 1000 square miles.


30 km radius = 1000 square miles?

You might want to double-check your math there, genius.
 
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