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2014-06-05 07:08:05 PM  
I would certainly agree that the odds of a modern jetliner being tossed out of the sky by turbulence are pretty slim. But turbulence probably accounts for a high percentage of injures sustained on public transport. People not wearing seatbelts getting bounced around the cabin like ragdolls.

I also seem to recall that "turbulence" is increasing, not because of global warming, but because airlines no longer want to spend the fuel to climb around it. Cheaper to just fly through it. Too lazy to look it up, and it would just get me more aggravated at airlines.
 
2014-06-05 07:54:40 PM  
I don't give a shiat about turbulence or terrorists or anything else except that...thing....onthe wing.....of...thePLANE!
 
2014-06-05 09:14:09 PM  
I kid you not, since 9/11, I know more people who are more afraid of going to the airport than flying in the plane.
 
2014-06-05 09:18:17 PM  
I can never sleep on planes. Turbulence.
Turbulence?
Solar rays warm the earths crust, warm air rises cool air decends turbulence.
 
2014-06-05 09:19:28 PM  
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I am scared to death of watching this terrible movie.
 
2014-06-05 09:20:33 PM  
"Turbulence" would be a cool name for an airplane hijacking movie.

.........

....nevermind, there were 4.
 
2014-06-05 09:20:51 PM  
I beg to differ.

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Even weirder and stupider was it's unrelated second sequel, but still entertaining (and had two good original songs).

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2014-06-05 09:21:06 PM  

starsrift: I kid you not, since 9/11, I know more people who are more afraid of going to the airport than flying in the plane.


I don't mind the TSA people and the security so much. What I mind more are the travelers who still don't understand, yes, you will have to remove your shoes and put all metal in the bins and who in general wait until the last minute to get ready for the security check.
 
2014-06-05 09:21:41 PM  

Hung Like A Tic-Tac: I can never sleep on planes. Turbulence.
Turbulence?
Solar rays warm the earths crust, warm air rises cool air decends turbulence.


Well, try and get some sleep anyway...
 
2014-06-05 09:22:29 PM  
I'll continue to be leery of turbulence, thank you very much.
 
2014-06-05 09:23:32 PM  
This article is bullshiat. It didn't even mention the gremlin on the wing.
 
2014-06-05 09:23:39 PM  
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Turbulence. Solar radiation heats the Earth's crust, warm air rises, cold air descends - turbulence. I, I don't like that.
 
2014-06-05 09:23:46 PM  
As an aviation weather forecaster Im getting a kick...
 
2014-06-05 09:24:32 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [universaldork.files.wordpress.com image 377x404]
I am scared to death of watching this terrible movie.


Glad to see we're on the same page! :)
 
2014-06-05 09:30:56 PM  
Wow - says someone who has never flown / rode in a small plane. It's fun if you're flying it but, man, does is it do hell on the unsuspecting passengers.

//cessna 152/172 in shifting winds, landing over tall trees. dat hard bank/rudder. good times.
 
2014-06-05 09:31:16 PM  
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2014-06-05 09:32:28 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: farkingismybusiness: [universaldork.files.wordpress.com image 377x404]
I am scared to death of watching this terrible movie.

Glad to see we're on the same page! :)


I'm into black metal so I had to check it out. I was misled.
 
2014-06-05 09:33:50 PM  

Mugato: I don't give a shiat about turbulence or terrorists or anything else except that...thing....onthe wing.....of...thePLANE!


It's called "the engine".
 
2014-06-05 09:33:56 PM  
I was on a repositioning flight of a nearly-empty 747 being brought back to Chicago.
We hit turbulence, and we had almost no 'ballast' of humans/cargo to help stabilize that jumbo jet.

We swung/flung around the sky like a kite without a tail - scariest flight I've ever been on.
 
2014-06-05 09:33:59 PM  
Came for Red October references, leaving satisfied.
 
2014-06-05 09:34:11 PM  

Hung Like A Tic-Tac: I can never sleep on planes. Turbulence.
Turbulence?
Solar rays warm the earths crust, warm air rises cool air decends turbulence.


"So, you're a dick and a pussy."
 
2014-06-05 09:39:39 PM  

mr_a: I would certainly agree that the odds of a modern jetliner being tossed out of the sky by turbulence are pretty slim. But turbulence probably accounts for a high percentage of injures sustained on public transport. People not wearing seatbelts getting bounced around the cabin like ragdolls.

I also seem to recall that "turbulence" is increasing, not because of global warming, but because airlines no longer want to spend the fuel to climb around it. Cheaper to just fly through it. Too lazy to look it up, and it would just get me more aggravated at airlines.


Not so very "modern" an aeroplane, but likely a victim of turbulence: BOAC Flight 911 (coincidence?)
 
2014-06-05 09:41:38 PM  

nanim: We swung/flung around the sky like a kite without a tail - scariest flight I've ever been on.


That's what's it like in a small plane most days - seemingly calm summer days. Little mass / low velocity / small moment. All sorts of factors in play to toss you around. You get used to it. You get to like flying in it.
 
2014-06-05 09:47:26 PM  
I think about the men in WWII flying over Germany with shrapnel blowing holes in their plane and how they still made it back.  It helps you to realize it's not big deal.  Just keep your seat belt on.

I find drinking helps too.  It helps with lots of things.
 
2014-06-05 09:48:18 PM  
She's starting to shimmy.
 
2014-06-05 09:48:23 PM  

farkingismybusiness: DarkSoulNoHope: farkingismybusiness: [universaldork.files.wordpress.com image 377x404]
I am scared to death of watching this terrible movie.

Glad to see we're on the same page! :)

I'm into black metal so I had to check it out. I was misled.


Yeah, it was more about a glam rocker who is a copy for Marilyn Manson, though that song Razor Electric was pretty good, I wish there was a sound track with a full version of it. The extras were apparently real Goth kids, so that's one plus that most movies don't get right, so that was a plus for me. I put it in "so bad it's good" territory.
 
2014-06-05 09:50:44 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: farkingismybusiness: DarkSoulNoHope: farkingismybusiness: [universaldork.files.wordpress.com image 377x404]
I am scared to death of watching this terrible movie.

Glad to see we're on the same page! :)

I'm into black metal so I had to check it out. I was misled.

Yeah, it was more about a glam rocker who is a copy for Marilyn Manson, though that song Razor Electric was pretty good, I wish there was a sound track with a full version of it. The extras were apparently real Goth kids, so that's one plus that most movies don't get right, so that was a plus for me. I put it in "so bad it's good" territory.


Enjoyably bad trainwreck/plane crash.
 
2014-06-05 10:01:14 PM  

Eggs McMuffin: She's starting to shimmy.


"Is that bad?"

"IT'S NOT GOOD! But......at least she's not...breaking....up."

/two Shatner impressions in one thread. Ban me
 
2014-06-05 10:02:07 PM  
In my mind

Turbulence == chance of other people puking on the plane == scary.
 
2014-06-05 10:02:26 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: The extras were apparently real Goth kids, so that's one plus that most movies don't get right


Exactly.  That's what bothered me most about The Shawshank Redemption and Saving Private Ryan, no real Goth kids.
 
2014-06-05 10:07:48 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: DarkSoulNoHope: The extras were apparently real Goth kids, so that's one plus that most movies don't get right

Exactly.  That's what bothered me most about The Shawshank Redemption and Saving Private Ryan, no real Goth kids.


Goth Talk filmed some scenes for Saving Private Ryan at the local park...
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But they were cut because there were too many frisbee players in the background.
 
2014-06-05 10:09:46 PM  

USCLaw2010: [img.fark.net image 480x360]
Turbulence. Solar radiation heats the Earth's crust, warm air rises, cold air descends - turbulence. I, I don't like that.


Next time you get a bright idea, Jack, put it in a memo!

/gud jorb
 
2014-06-05 10:10:45 PM  
Good article, subby.
 
2014-06-05 10:18:52 PM  
Freight Dog's Motto : It ain't turbulence until it physically hurts you.
Until that point, we say the sky has some texture.


I remember getting warned by ATC of reported turbulence up ahead. My co-pilot replied over the radio that we had a rodeo clown in a barrel in the back, but thanks for the advisory. I miss flying with that guy.
 
2014-06-05 10:19:18 PM  
trust me and my little 172, getting your ass kicked by turbulence its still not a fun thing to experience. like flying a Volkswagen in a whirlpool.
 
2014-06-05 10:19:30 PM  
It's not the turbulence so much as my wife's fingernails digging into my arm to keep herself from a full blown freak-out.  She loads up on Xanax now before boarding and things are much better.  There should be a complimentary dose for all passengers.
 
2014-06-05 10:27:48 PM  
wife got splashed with bloody mary from across the damn aisle cause some jackass thought they could hold the full cup in the air with a firm hand while shuffling her ipad and newspaper with the other.

...point being, if the pilot mentions the chance of turbulence, there will probably be turbulence. plan your drinks accordingly.
 
2014-06-05 10:30:34 PM  

mr_a: I also seem to recall that "turbulence" is increasing, not because of global warming, but because airlines no longer want to spend the fuel to climb around it. Cheaper to just fly through it. Too lazy to look it up, and it would just get me more aggravated at airlines.


That's not true.  We fly at our service ceiling regularly.  The company can biatch all they want but if I want to fly higher then I pack on more fuel and request a higher altitude from atc.
 
2014-06-05 10:40:11 PM  

Yaw String: Freight Dog's Motto : It ain't turbulence until it physically hurts you.
Until that point, we say the sky has some texture.


I remember getting warned by ATC of reported turbulence up ahead. My co-pilot replied over the radio that we had a rodeo clown in a barrel in the back, but thanks for the advisory. I miss flying with that guy.


Most pilots I've heard over the intercom call it "chop".

/shiat, more like a jackhammer
 
2014-06-05 10:47:00 PM  

phamwaa: Yaw String: Freight Dog's Motto : It ain't turbulence until it physically hurts you.
Until that point, we say the sky has some texture.


I remember getting warned by ATC of reported turbulence up ahead. My co-pilot replied over the radio that we had a rodeo clown in a barrel in the back, but thanks for the advisory. I miss flying with that guy.

Most pilots I've heard over the intercom call it "chop".

/shiat, more like a jackhammer


I consider one a subset of the other. 
Chop causes slight, rapid, rhythmic bumps, while not changing altitude or attitude appreciably.
Turbulence causes changes in altitude or attitude.

 'Chop' can best be equated to running over the turtles when changing lanes on the freeway. Some military manuals classify chop as turbulence, just a lesser degree than "light" turbulance.
 
2014-06-05 10:54:10 PM  
Whatever.  That BS that happened flying into Denver is still one of the scariest things I've encountered, and I've been to East St. Louis.
 
2014-06-05 10:55:59 PM  

Outlaw2097: wife got splashed with bloody mary from across the damn aisle cause some jackass thought they could hold the full cup in the air with a firm hand while shuffling her ipad and newspaper with the other.

...point being, if the pilot mentions the chance of turbulence, there will probably be turbulence. plan your drinks accordingly.



A plane is tin can full of compressed air flying faster than a bullet a mile off the ground. Who cares about a little tomato juice?
 
2014-06-05 10:58:24 PM  

LoneCraneFullMoon: Whatever.  That BS that happened flying into Denver is still one of the scariest things I've encountered, and I've been to East St. Louis.


Well, I've only been to East St Louis full speed with firearms branded, but what happened in Denver? And did you stop sniffing glue?
 
2014-06-05 10:58:46 PM  
Gizmodo isn't a thing.

"At times like this, pilots will slow to a designated "turbulence penetration speed" to ensure high-speed buffet protection (don't ask) and prevent damage to the airframe. "

This article is devoid of anything.  EVAR.
 
2014-06-05 11:00:09 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Wow - says someone who has never flown / rode in a small plane. It's fun if you're flying it but, man, does is it do hell on the unsuspecting passengers.

//cessna 152/172 in shifting winds, landing over tall trees. dat hard bank/rudder. good times.


Side slip. One of the most challenging aspects of flying to master gracefully, and a hell of a lot of fun for the pilot.

// side slips just for kicks.
/// ok, it's all challenging.
 
2014-06-05 11:05:01 PM  

doglover: Outlaw2097: wife got splashed with bloody mary from across the damn aisle cause some jackass thought they could hold the full cup in the air with a firm hand while shuffling her ipad and newspaper with the other.

...point being, if the pilot mentions the chance of turbulence, there will probably be turbulence. plan your drinks accordingly.


A plane is tin can full of compressed air flying faster than a bullet a mile off the ground. Who cares about a little tomato juice?


I love that explanation. Thank you.

That and "a helicopter is a machine that inherently wants to kill you from the moment the engines start."
 
2014-06-05 11:13:05 PM  

Charlie Crews' Zen Master: Side slip. One of the most challenging aspects of flying to master gracefully, and a hell of a lot of fun for the pilot.


Yep - maintaining the vector with the nose sideways and the wings banked, crabbing into a crosswind for example - pretty fun when risk is low. I love the idea of the B-52, where the nose can shift into the wind, but the gear rotated to line up w/ the runway! Now that would be a challenge w/ that sort of beast.
 
2014-06-05 11:30:11 PM  
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2014-06-05 11:48:54 PM  
tubulence is why I always fly wearing my cheeshead
 
2014-06-05 11:57:22 PM  
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