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(BBC-US)   Chinese company realizes that since Google Glass is just some off-the-shelf parts totaling less than $100, it can undercut Google by $1,000 and still make a 600% profit   (bbc.com) divider line 79
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2014-06-05 10:48:45 AM
Sure, they could do that. But since Glass is mostly about fashion, it shouldn't hurt sales. Just like that guy selling Rolexx watches down at the park for 20 bucks isn't hurting Rolex sales.
 
2014-06-05 10:54:29 AM
it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.
 
2014-06-05 11:09:53 AM
news.bbcimg.co.uk

i236.photobucket.com
 
2014-06-05 11:11:24 AM
Taiwan, China, same thing.
 
2014-06-05 11:11:57 AM
It will be made of mercury and gallium, but what's a little low melting point and metal poisoning among friends, right?
 
2014-06-05 11:15:14 AM

doublesecretprobation: it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.


Okay, here's the thing. It's a copy cat, but there is still quite a bit of R&D to get such a nonstandard formfactor design together, even if you're copying someone else's design appearance. You're still going to have to figure out batteries, displays processors to fit in a thing that's hanging on the side of your head.
 
2014-06-05 11:16:09 AM

RexTalionis: Taiwan, China, same thing.


To the Taiwanese it is, but that's just quibbling.
 
2014-06-05 11:16:44 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: RexTalionis: Taiwan, China, same thing.

To the Taiwanese it is, but that's just quibbling.


To the Chinese, too.

But for everyone else, there's a difference.
 
2014-06-05 11:24:07 AM

RexTalionis: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: RexTalionis: Taiwan, China, same thing.

To the Taiwanese it is, but that's just quibbling.

To the Chinese, too.

But for everyone else, there's a difference.


One of my favorite maps out there is the area that ROC considers still part of their country. Because they don't recognize the authority of the PRC, anything that the PRC gave up control of is illegitimate. Their map of "China" still includes Mongolia, parts of Russia, India, Afghanistan, etc. The only parts that are, according to them, the legitimate PRC are Macau and Hong Kong (because the ROC was not party to the handovers).

It's fascinating.
 
2014-06-05 11:41:22 AM

RexTalionis: Taiwan, China, same thing.


Republic of China vs People's Republic of China.
 
2014-06-05 11:46:11 AM

RexTalionis: doublesecretprobation: it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.

Okay, here's the thing. It's a copy cat, but there is still quite a bit of R&D to get such a nonstandard formfactor design together, even if you're copying someone else's design appearance. You're still going to have to figure out batteries, displays processors to fit in a thing that's hanging on the side of your head.


Yep, and apparently, they haven't:
news.bbcimg.co.uk
 
2014-06-05 11:57:11 AM

RexTalionis: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: RexTalionis: Taiwan, China, same thing.

To the Taiwanese it is, but that's just quibbling.

To the Chinese, too.

But for everyone else, there's a difference.


I used to have a lot of dealings with some Taiwanese people, and all of them were adamant that they were not Chinese. Beyond adamant. You were better off insulting someone's mother, than insinuating they were Chinese.
 
2014-06-05 12:10:55 PM

Theaetetus: RexTalionis: doublesecretprobation: it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.

Okay, here's the thing. It's a copy cat, but there is still quite a bit of R&D to get such a nonstandard formfactor design together, even if you're copying someone else's design appearance. You're still going to have to figure out batteries, displays processors to fit in a thing that's hanging on the side of your head.

Yep, and apparently, they haven't:
[news.bbcimg.co.uk image 512x288]


Actually, the best part is that if you look at some of the photos, it's actually just attached to the headpiece by scotch tape.

images.hngn.com
 
2014-06-05 12:11:39 PM

rumpelstiltskin: I used to have a lot of dealings with some Taiwanese people, and all of them were adamant that they were not Chinese. Beyond adamant. You were better off insulting someone's mother, than insinuating they were Chinese.


Some of them actually aren't Chinese, but rather the indigenous people of Taiwan.
 
2014-06-05 12:41:26 PM

RexTalionis: rumpelstiltskin: I used to have a lot of dealings with some Taiwanese people, and all of them were adamant that they were not Chinese. Beyond adamant. You were better off insulting someone's mother, than insinuating they were Chinese.

Some of them actually aren't Chinese, but rather the indigenous people of Taiwan.


It was a political thing- they were afraid that if Americans see them as Chinese, we might look the other way when Beijing asserts its claims. This was back in the 90s. I don't think things have changed though, in that respect.
 
2014-06-05 01:00:01 PM
news.bbcimg.co.uk

Yeah... uhh... mission accomplished there.
 
2014-06-05 01:04:00 PM

doublesecretprobation: it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.


Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but from what I understand, Google didn't have to do much R&D for Glass as the technology already existed. Google just put the parts together and built a modified version of Android to run it.
 
2014-06-05 01:08:58 PM

digistil: doublesecretprobation: it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but from what I understand, Google didn't have to do much R&D for Glass as the technology already existed. Google just put the parts together and built a modified version of Android to run it.


They did a lot of work integrating everything together, reducing the size of the package, developing the APIs and interface, etc.  When all you do is take a bunch of stuff off the shelf and throw it together, you end up with...well, this.
 
2014-06-05 01:10:45 PM
Only hipsters will buy it.
 
2014-06-05 01:12:15 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: RexTalionis: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: RexTalionis: Taiwan, China, same thing.

To the Taiwanese it is, but that's just quibbling.

To the Chinese, too.

But for everyone else, there's a difference.

One of my favorite maps out there is the area that ROC considers still part of their country. Because they don't recognize the authority of the PRC, anything that the PRC gave up control of is illegitimate. Their map of "China" still includes Mongolia, parts of Russia, India, Afghanistan, etc. The only parts that are, according to them, the legitimate PRC are Macau and Hong Kong (because the ROC was not party to the handovers).

It's fascinating.


They still make laws for those areas as well.
 
2014-06-05 01:14:29 PM

HeartBurnKid: [news.bbcimg.co.uk image 512x288]

Yeah... uhh... mission accomplished  accomprishedthere.

/ftfy?

 
2014-06-05 01:19:33 PM

HeartBurnKid: digistil: doublesecretprobation: it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.

Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but from what I understand, Google didn't have to do much R&D for Glass as the technology already existed. Google just put the parts together and built a modified version of Android to run it.

They did a lot of work integrating everything together, reducing the size of the package, developing the APIs and interface, etc.  When all you do is take a bunch of stuff off the shelf and throw it together, you end up with...well, this.


I'd like to think you were right, but I've got two Glass in my office desk drawer that suggest otherwise.
 
2014-06-05 01:26:51 PM

rumpelstiltskin: Sure, they could do that. But since Glass is mostly about fashion, it shouldn't hurt sales. Just like that guy selling Rolexx watches down at the park for 20 bucks isn't hurting Rolex sales.


Seeing as google isn't Apple, and no one likes them just for their name anymore, I don't think that's too likely.
 
2014-06-05 01:27:44 PM

digistil: Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but from what I understand, Google didn't have to do much R&D for Glass as the technology already existed. Google just put the parts together and built a modified version of Android to run it.


and all of that happened in a vacuum?  surely google has employees working on this, and managers for those people, etc....
 
2014-06-05 01:28:19 PM
They are going to steal the market guys! That market consists of what like 4 nerds?

steal away
 
2014-06-05 01:28:54 PM
I'll pay more for the lead and mercury-free one
 
2014-06-05 01:30:22 PM
You're not just a glasshole, you're a cheap glasshole.
 
2014-06-05 01:30:37 PM
Will the fake glassholes be as obnoxious as the real ones?
 
2014-06-05 01:32:43 PM

cgraves67: You're not just a glasshole, you're a cheap glasshole.


Is this some sort of problem?  The only people who should give a fark if you're cheap are people who have some sort of financial dealing with you.
 
2014-06-05 01:34:06 PM

HeartBurnKid: [news.bbcimg.co.uk image 512x288]

Yeah... uhh... mission accomplished there.


Maybe they've solved the Google Glass tilted picture image by pre-tilting the camera so when you take a picture it will be level.
Nah, not really.
 
2014-06-05 01:34:31 PM

rumpelstiltskin: Sure, they could do that. But since Glass is mostly about fashion, it shouldn't hurt sales. Just like that guy selling Rolexx watches down at the park for 20 bucks isn't hurting Rolex sales.


Fashion? I don't care much about fashion, but even I think they would be embarrassing to be seen wearing due to the sheer ugliness.
 
2014-06-05 01:34:59 PM

digistil: I'd like to think you were right, but I've got two Glass in my office desk drawer that suggest otherwise.


Dullest picture feed ever.
 
2014-06-05 01:36:14 PM
www.examiner.com
/oblig
 
2014-06-05 01:37:35 PM

doublesecretprobation: digistil: Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but from what I understand, Google didn't have to do much R&D for Glass as the technology already existed. Google just put the parts together and built a modified version of Android to run it.

and all of that happened in a vacuum?  surely google has employees working on this, and managers for those people, etc....


The point is a 1600% markup isn't for recovering R&D in this case. Not even close.
 
2014-06-05 01:39:47 PM

RexTalionis: Taiwan, China, same thing.


Subby sounds Vietnamese.
 
2014-06-05 01:49:02 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's fascinating.


Macau is it's own place. It has it's own rules of language and commerce.
Also, if you take a  left on the street of the monkeys, and stop at the dumpling cart owned by 虎 龍 and tell him vudukunfu sent you, you get a free spring roll.
Offer only good on Tuesdays.
 
2014-06-05 01:50:01 PM

RexTalionis: Taiwan, China, same thing.


I see we've covered submitter is an idiot


Also, wasn't this bound to happen anyway, google doesn't really seem to be in the hardware business they just seem to like starting the market and then making money off the patents and software sales
 
2014-06-05 02:05:07 PM
Geez, who do they think they are? Samsung?
 
2014-06-05 02:12:20 PM

bingethinker: Geez, who do they think they are? Samsung?


Like when they ripped off an OS from Xerox? Oh wait, that wasn't them, sorry.
 
2014-06-05 02:19:09 PM

Dragonflew: bingethinker: Geez, who do they think they are? Samsung?

Like when they ripped off an OS from Xerox? Oh wait, that wasn't them, sorry.


Microsoft?
 
2014-06-05 02:21:30 PM

Vaneshi: Dragonflew: bingethinker: Geez, who do they think they are? Samsung?

Like when they ripped off an OS from Xerox? Oh wait, that wasn't them, sorry.

Microsoft?


IBM?

I know Apple used elements from PARC's OS, but they paid Xerox for that. So Dragonflew can't be talking about them.
 
2014-06-05 02:23:13 PM

RexTalionis: doublesecretprobation: it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.

Okay, here's the thing. It's a copy cat, but there is still quite a bit of R&D to get such a nonstandard formfactor design together, even if you're copying someone else's design appearance. You're still going to have to figure out batteries, displays processors to fit in a thing that's hanging on the side of your head.


so, you're saying that the only design they stole was from looking at pictures....not by directly stealing ALL the manufacturing details from the companies that build the thing?  Sure, let's go with that, then outsourcing IP to other countries doesn't as stupid as it actually is.
 
2014-06-05 02:24:05 PM
...doesn't SOUND as stupid as it actually is.


That'll teach me not to preview...
 
2014-06-05 02:27:33 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: so, you're saying that the only design they stole was from looking at pictures....not by directly stealing ALL the manufacturing details from the companies that build the thing? Sure, let's go with that, then outsourcing IP to other countries doesn't as stupid as it actually is.


Considering that the Google Glass hasn't entered mass production yet and thus every Explorer Edition glass was built in-house at Google, that is EXACTLY what I am saying.
 
2014-06-05 02:34:32 PM

RexTalionis: doublesecretprobation: it's amazing how cheap you can sell something when you spent $0 developing it.

Okay, here's the thing. It's a copy cat, but there is still quite a bit of R&D to get such a nonstandard formfactor design together, even if you're copying someone else's design appearance. You're still going to have to figure out batteries, displays processors to fit in a thing that's hanging on the side of your head.


On the other hand, it really is easier when you pay your employees in beatings.
 
2014-06-05 02:34:37 PM

RexTalionis: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: so, you're saying that the only design they stole was from looking at pictures....not by directly stealing ALL the manufacturing details from the companies that build the thing? Sure, let's go with that, then outsourcing IP to other countries doesn't as stupid as it actually is.

Considering that the Google Glass hasn't has entered mass production yet and thus every Explorer Edition glass was built in-house at Google, that is EXACTLY what I am saying.


If that's what you're saying, you're wrong. FoxConn makes Google Glass.

link
 
2014-06-05 02:41:33 PM

digistil: RexTalionis: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: so, you're saying that the only design they stole was from looking at pictures....not by directly stealing ALL the manufacturing details from the companies that build the thing? Sure, let's go with that, then outsourcing IP to other countries doesn't as stupid as it actually is.

Considering that the Google Glass hasn't has entered mass production yet and thus every Explorer Edition glass was built in-house at Google, that is EXACTLY what I am saying.

If that's what you're saying, you're wrong. FoxConn makes Google Glass.

link


Alright, fine. But even so, if this company truly just stole t he design from FoxConn, you'd think that they'd be able to come up with something better than this half-baked knock-off that has to be held in place with scotch tape.
 
2014-06-05 03:03:19 PM
lh4.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-06-05 03:06:20 PM

RexTalionis: Alright, fine. But even so, if this company truly just stole t he design from FoxConn, you'd think that they'd be able to come up with something better than this half-baked knock-off that has to be held in place with scotch tape.


Are they buying Scotch Brand Tape from 3M?
 
2014-06-05 03:20:59 PM

Dragonflew: rumpelstiltskin: Sure, they could do that. But since Glass is mostly about fashion, it shouldn't hurt sales. Just like that guy selling Rolexx watches down at the park for 20 bucks isn't hurting Rolex sales.

Fashion? I don't care much about fashion, but even I think they would be embarrassing to be seen wearing due to the sheer ugliness.


Yeah, when all the up-and-comers are styling in their Glass, you're going to be trying to impress your boss with the $5 plastic facsimile you bought at a gas station.
 
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