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2014-06-05 08:06:49 AM  
Ewwww. Not the gay thing; the thought that the principal has sex at all.
 
2014-06-05 08:54:53 AM  
That's just pretty amazing and inspiring.
 
2014-06-05 11:17:17 AM  
Hmm...comparing that to my 3rd grade principal Mr Armstrong who lived up to his name with the leather strap hanging on his office wall for corporal punishment of students. I remember him as sadistic but looking back now maybe he was just latent.
 
2014-06-05 11:32:34 AM  

gopher321: Hmm...comparing that to my 3rd grade principal Mr Armstrong who lived up to his name with the leather strap hanging on his office wall for corporal punishment of students. I remember him as sadistic but looking back now maybe he was just latent.


I had a principal with a worn cricket bat hanging on the wall. I'm pretty sure it was just there for intimidation factor. It worked on me. I was a good boy.
 
2014-06-05 11:35:38 AM  

cgraves67: gopher321: Hmm...comparing that to my 3rd grade principal Mr Armstrong who lived up to his name with the leather strap hanging on his office wall for corporal punishment of students. I remember him as sadistic but looking back now maybe he was just latent.

I had a principal with a worn cricket bat hanging on the wall. I'm pretty sure it was just there for intimidation factor. It worked on me. I was a good boy.


cdn.hark.com
Approves.
 
2014-06-05 11:35:43 AM  
Good. The gay kids will know that gay men can succeed in life.
 
2014-06-05 11:37:25 AM  
Pricipal caught gayof?
 
2014-06-05 11:38:20 AM  
I don't know who I want to punch harder, Westboro or the writer that decided Westboro is worthy of first-paragraph mention.
 
2014-06-05 11:41:24 AM  
My high school principal was gay.  Everybody knew it, he never really talked about it but didn't try to hide it either.  It was a non-issue.  Wish such issues were a non-issue more often.
 
2014-06-05 11:49:40 AM  
Damn. Poor guy was shaking like a leaf.
 
2014-06-05 11:51:41 AM  
Fired tomorrow.
Also, where did the 'Q' come from?
 
2014-06-05 11:51:54 AM  
"My words to the people of Westboro and Kansas, they can go straight to hell"  --The Principal

Hey Mr. Principal Guy, we're already in Kansas.  Hell would be an upgrade.
 
2014-06-05 11:52:09 AM  
Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.
 
2014-06-05 11:55:22 AM  

caution: I don't know who I want to punch harder, Westboro or the writer that decided Westboro is worthy of first-paragraph mention.


Or the mayor of the town who felt the need to point them out, saying that they are going "straight to hell". Why waste the words? They aren't worth it. Seriously, it's like the Simpsons say: "Just don't look". The WBC are some of the most successful trolls, and they managed the make a living off of suing people for infringing on their 1st.

Just ignore them.
 
2014-06-05 11:58:16 AM  
Why should the students be aware of/informed of any of the faculties sexual orientation?
 
2014-06-05 11:59:48 AM  

mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.


Because it is a big deal in 2014. There are a lot of people who think that gay men should no be allowed near schools.
 
2014-06-05 12:09:47 PM  
Wait, I've seen this movie:

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2014-06-05 12:10:16 PM  
allegations of improprieties of a sexual nature involving the principal and the student body in 3... 2...
 
2014-06-05 12:11:22 PM  

hasty ambush: Why should the students be aware of/informed of any of the faculties sexual orientation?


Because if there are any gay students in attendance- and, statistically speaking, there were- they get to see that not only are they not alone, but that gay people are able to achieve success in many varied fields of endeavor.

Plus, if any of the other students held anti-gay sentiment- and, again, statistically speaking, some did- it's possible for them to see that Principal Cahall is still the same normal guy he was, but also gay. It directly teaches them that the Gayfolk aren't some strange class of prancing monsters, but just people like the rest of us.
 
2014-06-05 12:13:40 PM  

talkertopc: mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.

Because it is a big deal in 2014. There are a lot of people who think that gay men should no be allowed near schools.


Regardless there is no point to it.  He announces he's gay.  So what?  Does he want a medal or something?
How about the principal saying something more helpful like they're ditching Common Core.  That would get a rousing round of applause.
 
2014-06-05 12:14:33 PM  

talkertopc: mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.

Because it is a big deal in 2014. There are a lot of people who think that gay men should no be allowed near schools.


Most people couldn't care less about gay teachers. It's the kid touching teachers that are the problem.
 
2014-06-05 12:18:05 PM  

Gonz: Plus, if any of the other students held anti-gay sentiment- and, again, statistically speaking, some did- it's possible for them to see that Principal Cahall is still the same normal guy he was, but also gay. It directly teaches them that the Gayfolk aren't some strange class of prancing monsters, but just people like the rest of us.


It's more likely that, if they hold an anti-gay sentiment, they're going to think harshly of the principal now.

/There's a reason why teachers don't share their personal lives with students.
 
2014-06-05 12:18:13 PM  

mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.


When politicians stop trying to pass laws that turn gays into second class citizens, when gays can legally marry in all 50 states, when a gay person can no longer be fired just for being gay, then, yes, we won't need to make a big deal out of it.

Until then, we need to make a big deal out of it. That way when the next politician proposes a law designed solely to hurt gays, these kids have a name and a face, and they know who precicely that law will hurt.

It's one thing to oppose marriage between nameless and faceless gay people. But when you know who those gay people are, when they are your friends, family, principal, then it's a lot harder to go to the ballot box and vote agaisnt their rights. It's also not as easy to support politicians who campaign on hurting the people you know and care about.

Bottom line, it's a big deal because the bigots made it a big deal in the first place by passing laws agaisnt gays and putting gay marriage up for a vote and then encouraing millions of Americans to come vote the gays into oblivion. That's why it's a big deal, that's why it's still important for gay people to come out, and that's why those of us who support gay rights care.
 
2014-06-05 12:21:04 PM  
PRINCIPAL:  I'm a Christian.

1.bp.blogspot.com

PRINCIPAL:  I'm gay.

f2.thejournal.ie

How about you keep your personal life out of the school.
 
2014-06-05 12:21:29 PM  
When I saw the Washington on top of TFA, I thought---Wilson High in Tacoma has a gay principal? The Rams?
But alas, it was in Washington, DC.
 
2014-06-05 12:22:53 PM  

Gonz: hasty ambush: Why should the students be aware of/informed of any of the faculties sexual orientation?

Because if there are any gay students in attendance- and, statistically speaking, there were- they get to see that not only are they not alone, but that gay people are able to achieve success in many varied fields of endeavor.

Plus, if any of the other students held anti-gay sentiment- and, again, statistically speaking, some did- it's possible for them to see that Principal Cahall is still the same normal guy he was, but also gay. It directly teaches them that the Gayfolk aren't some strange class of prancing monsters, but just people like the rest of us.


You really expect a lot out of a principal saying he is gay.
 
2014-06-05 12:24:08 PM  

mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.


It's news because NBC Channel 4 knows that this will trigger outcries from one or more organizations with "Family" in their name, plus a bounty of commenters on their website, which will in turn bring in delicious, delicious page views and advertiser dollars.
 
2014-06-05 12:27:06 PM  
he's so brave, if only there was a special day of year to straight people to finally make themselves known.
 
2014-06-05 12:27:43 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: PRINCIPAL:  I'm a Christian.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 500x281]

PRINCIPAL:  I'm gay.

[f2.thejournal.ie image 500x205]

How about you keep your personal life out of the school.


How about he comes our publicly and helps be an inspiration to his gay students?  There are plenty of out Christians.
 
2014-06-05 12:27:49 PM  
If you are a Principal then calling an assembly to inform all the kids what you prefer to fark is probably over sharing.
 
2014-06-05 12:30:03 PM  

mikaloyd: If you are a Principal then calling an assembly to inform all the kids what you prefer to fark is probably over sharing.


Especially if it happens to occur on Bring Your Pet to School day.
 
2014-06-05 12:30:41 PM  

soporific: When politicians stop trying to pass laws that turn gays into second class citizens, when gays can legally marry in all 50 states, when a gay person can no longer be fired just for being gay, then, yes, we won't need to make a big deal out of it.


If you didn't make a big deal about going around telling everyone you were gay, nobody would know and they wouldn't have any reason to fire you.
 
2014-06-05 12:32:01 PM  

soporific: mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.

When politicians stop trying to pass laws that turn gays into second class citizens, when gays can legally marry in all 50 states, when a gay person can no longer be fired just for being gay, then, yes, we won't need to make a big deal out of it.

Until then, we need to make a big deal out of it. That way when the next politician proposes a law designed solely to hurt gays, these kids have a name and a face, and they know who precicely that law will hurt.

It's one thing to oppose marriage between nameless and faceless gay people. But when you know who those gay people are, when they are your friends, family, principal, then it's a lot harder to go to the ballot box and vote agaisnt their rights. It's also not as easy to support politicians who campaign on hurting the people you know and care about.

Bottom line, it's a big deal because the bigots made it a big deal in the first place by passing laws agaisnt gays and putting gay marriage up for a vote and then encouraing millions of Americans to come vote the gays into oblivion. That's why it's a big deal, that's why it's still important for gay people to come out, and that's why those of us who support gay rights care.


Next you'll be telling me they want egg in their beer.  You got your civil unions, just live with that and call it a day.
As for being fired for being gay, how does your company know you are gay?  Perhaps it's because they're prancing around the office announcing that they are gay and forcing co-workers to accept you or else?  Not much tolerance for that I'm afraid.  Bottom line in a company is productive employees, not rump-swabbers who rock the boat.
 
2014-06-05 12:34:09 PM  

mistrmind: soporific: mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.

When politicians stop trying to pass laws that turn gays into second class citizens, when gays can legally marry in all 50 states, when a gay person can no longer be fired just for being gay, then, yes, we won't need to make a big deal out of it.

Until then, we need to make a big deal out of it. That way when the next politician proposes a law designed solely to hurt gays, these kids have a name and a face, and they know who precicely that law will hurt.

It's one thing to oppose marriage between nameless and faceless gay people. But when you know who those gay people are, when they are your friends, family, principal, then it's a lot harder to go to the ballot box and vote agaisnt their rights. It's also not as easy to support politicians who campaign on hurting the people you know and care about.

Bottom line, it's a big deal because the bigots made it a big deal in the first place by passing laws agaisnt gays and putting gay marriage up for a vote and then encouraing millions of Americans to come vote the gays into oblivion. That's why it's a big deal, that's why it's still important for gay people to come out, and that's why those of us who support gay rights care.

Next you'll be telling me they want egg in their beer.  You got your civil unions, just live with that and call it a day.
As for being fired for being gay, how does your company know you are gay?  Perhaps it's because they're prancing around the office announcing that they are gay and forcing co-workers to accept you or else?  Not much tolerance for that I'm afraid.  Bottom line in a company is productive employees, not rump-swabbers who rock the boat.


You are a really bad troll.  Way over the top.
 
2014-06-05 12:36:19 PM  

Buttknuckle: mistrmind: soporific: mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.

When politicians stop trying to pass laws that turn gays into second class citizens, when gays can legally marry in all 50 states, when a gay person can no longer be fired just for being gay, then, yes, we won't need to make a big deal out of it.

Until then, we need to make a big deal out of it. That way when the next politician proposes a law designed solely to hurt gays, these kids have a name and a face, and they know who precicely that law will hurt.

It's one thing to oppose marriage between nameless and faceless gay people. But when you know who those gay people are, when they are your friends, family, principal, then it's a lot harder to go to the ballot box and vote agaisnt their rights. It's also not as easy to support politicians who campaign on hurting the people you know and care about.

Bottom line, it's a big deal because the bigots made it a big deal in the first place by passing laws agaisnt gays and putting gay marriage up for a vote and then encouraing millions of Americans to come vote the gays into oblivion. That's why it's a big deal, that's why it's still important for gay people to come out, and that's why those of us who support gay rights care.

Next you'll be telling me they want egg in their beer.  You got your civil unions, just live with that and call it a day.
As for being fired for being gay, how does your company know you are gay?  Perhaps it's because they're prancing around the office announcing that they are gay and forcing co-workers to accept you or else?  Not much tolerance for that I'm afraid.  Bottom line in a company is productive employees, not rump-swabbers who rock the boat.

You are a really bad troll.  Way over the top.


Awwww, I have a difference of opinion and you don't like it.  Poor you.  Poor, poor, poor you.
 
2014-06-05 12:38:09 PM  

mistrmind: Buttknuckle: mistrmind: soporific: mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.

When politicians stop trying to pass laws that turn gays into second class citizens, when gays can legally marry in all 50 states, when a gay person can no longer be fired just for being gay, then, yes, we won't need to make a big deal out of it.

Until then, we need to make a big deal out of it. That way when the next politician proposes a law designed solely to hurt gays, these kids have a name and a face, and they know who precicely that law will hurt.

It's one thing to oppose marriage between nameless and faceless gay people. But when you know who those gay people are, when they are your friends, family, principal, then it's a lot harder to go to the ballot box and vote agaisnt their rights. It's also not as easy to support politicians who campaign on hurting the people you know and care about.

Bottom line, it's a big deal because the bigots made it a big deal in the first place by passing laws agaisnt gays and putting gay marriage up for a vote and then encouraing millions of Americans to come vote the gays into oblivion. That's why it's a big deal, that's why it's still important for gay people to come out, and that's why those of us who support gay rights care.

Next you'll be telling me they want egg in their beer.  You got your civil unions, just live with that and call it a day.
As for being fired for being gay, how does your company know you are gay?  Perhaps it's because they're prancing around the office announcing that they are gay and forcing co-workers to accept you or else?  Not much tolerance for that I'm afraid.  Bottom line in a company is productive employees, not rump-swabbers who rock the boat.

You are a really bad troll.  Way over the top.

Awwww, I ...


Bad troll and now blocked for being annoying.
 
2014-06-05 12:39:39 PM  

Buttknuckle: mistrmind: Buttknuckle: mistrmind: soporific: mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.

When politicians stop trying to pass laws that turn gays into second class citizens, when gays can legally marry in all 50 states, when a gay person can no longer be fired just for being gay, then, yes, we won't need to make a big deal out of it.

Until then, we need to make a big deal out of it. That way when the next politician proposes a law designed solely to hurt gays, these kids have a name and a face, and they know who precicely that law will hurt.

It's one thing to oppose marriage between nameless and faceless gay people. But when you know who those gay people are, when they are your friends, family, principal, then it's a lot harder to go to the ballot box and vote agaisnt their rights. It's also not as easy to support politicians who campaign on hurting the people you know and care about.

Bottom line, it's a big deal because the bigots made it a big deal in the first place by passing laws agaisnt gays and putting gay marriage up for a vote and then encouraing millions of Americans to come vote the gays into oblivion. That's why it's a big deal, that's why it's still important for gay people to come out, and that's why those of us who support gay rights care.

Next you'll be telling me they want egg in their beer.  You got your civil unions, just live with that and call it a day.
As for being fired for being gay, how does your company know you are gay?  Perhaps it's because they're prancing around the office announcing that they are gay and forcing co-workers to accept you or else?  Not much tolerance for that I'm afraid.  Bottom line in a company is productive employees, not rump-swabbers who rock the boat.

You are a really bad troll.  Way over the top. ...


Oh no!  What am I gonna do?
 
2014-06-05 12:42:33 PM  
  I am glad he came out.   Actually looking forward to the day when if this were to happen, the kids wouldn't cheer, they would just say "meh" and go on.  But unfortunately, our country isn't there yet.  Maybe by the time these kids are the principal's age people won't give it a second thought that the principal, mail carrier, police chief, etc is gay.
 
2014-06-05 12:47:01 PM  
wait...wait fark, you need to tell me how to feel about this!

some say care about other people... others say no....

i only go on the internet to get instructions on how to feel about things so please help me out here.
 
2014-06-05 12:48:39 PM  

Buttknuckle: Zeb Hesselgresser: PRINCIPAL:  I'm a Christian.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 500x281]

PRINCIPAL:  I'm gay.

[f2.thejournal.ie image 500x205]

How about you keep your personal life out of the school.

How about he comes our publicly and helps be an inspiration to his gay students?  There are plenty of out Christians.


And how many gay educators have actually tried to proselytize students into being gay? (vs. just being who they are).  Living in Texas, I see a lot of "christian" educators try to recruit.

/am a Christian who can't stand the fundies/evangelicals, and make damn sure they know it.
 
2014-06-05 12:48:48 PM  

optimus_grime: wait...wait fark, you need to tell me how to feel about this!

some say care about other people... others say no....

i only go on the internet to get instructions on how to feel about things so please help me out here.


They want you to clap and cheer loudly when they announce this.  Anything less and they demonize you and run you out of town.    Funny how it used to be the other way.  I wonder how they feel now that they've become the very people they used to hate.
 
2014-06-05 12:55:42 PM  
Fark needs a FAAAABULOUS tag
 
2014-06-05 12:57:42 PM  

Buttknuckle: Zeb Hesselgresser: PRINCIPAL:  I'm a Christian.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 500x281]

PRINCIPAL:  I'm gay.

[f2.thejournal.ie image 500x205]

How about you keep your personal life out of the school.

How about he comes our publicly and helps be an inspiration to his gay students?  There are plenty of out Christians.


Yes, I can see that, those kids should have people to fill that role.   I'm not sure the school principal is the
right person for it, but okay.
 
2014-06-05 01:03:02 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Buttknuckle: Zeb Hesselgresser: PRINCIPAL:  I'm a Christian.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 500x281]

PRINCIPAL:  I'm gay.

[f2.thejournal.ie image 500x205]

How about you keep your personal life out of the school.

How about he comes our publicly and helps be an inspiration to his gay students?  There are plenty of out Christians.

Yes, I can see that, those kids should have people to fill that role.   I'm not sure the school principal is the
right person for it, but okay.


Why not?
 
2014-06-05 01:07:41 PM  
Why does it have to be an "event?"

Most of us just don't care, let's keep it that way.

//lude
 
2014-06-05 01:14:53 PM  

mistrmind: Why do kids need to know this?
This is like my high school principal standing up during graduation and announcing, "Hey I'm a heterosexual and proud of it!"
Who cares?
Why is this news.
Just go about your business and stop making a big deal of it.


hasty ambush: Why should the students be aware of/informed of any of the faculties sexual orientation?


Remember how you walked into the principal's office and he had pictures of himself with his wife and kids, or she had pictures of herself with hubby and kids?? It's like that, only it's his husband, or her wife.

Perhaps you should also go about your business during such hetero displays as well, or else ban any and all displays of relationship markers - pictures, wedding bands/engagement rings, discussion of significant others, and probably keep religion out as well (since usually, someone loudly proclaiming themselves Christian will similarly loudly proclaim themselves straight).

Or - and bear with me, because this is novel shiat - we could let people be people, and as long as the discussion stays PG/PG-13 (for the high-schoolers) NO ONE cares.
 
2014-06-05 01:18:33 PM  

Buttknuckle: Why not?


Because school principals are in a position of authority, where it's not advantageous to subject themselves to possible disrespect from their pupils.  Should the pupils disrespect him just because he's gay?  Of course not, but some will.  Some always will.  I'd disrespect him simply on the basis that he had the effrontory to share his sexual preferences with me as though I was supposed to give a crap.
 
2014-06-05 01:21:05 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Remember how you walked into the principal's office and he had pictures of himself with his wife and kids, or she had pictures of herself with hubby and kids?? It's like that, only it's his husband, or her wife.


There's bit of a difference between having a picture of your SO on your desk and announcing your sexual preferences at a school assembly.
 
2014-06-05 01:23:30 PM  

mistrmind: Awwww, I have a difference of opinion and you don't like it. Poor you. Poor, poor, poor you.


So you really are that ignorant? Calling you a troll is actually giving you the benefit of the doubt. But if you insist on letting us know that you really are that ignorant and stupid, then who are we to argue.

It is your right to reveal yourself as an imbecile, and I won't stand in the way of you doing so.
 
2014-06-05 01:26:11 PM  

nyrB: Buttknuckle: Why not?

Because school principals are in a position of authority, where it's not advantageous to subject themselves to possible disrespect from their pupils.  Should the pupils disrespect him just because he's gay?  Of course not, but some will.  Some always will.  I'd disrespect him simply on the basis that he had the effrontory to share his sexual preferences with me as though I was supposed to give a crap.


So, the problem is with the way he is delivering the information?  So, say a student asks him if he is getting his wife flowers for Valentine's Day, what should he do?  Would it be okay to that instance to correct the student?  Should he lie about himself?  Would that be more respectful?

There are a lot of instances in daily life when sexual orientation is proclaimed.  You would be surprised just how often it comes up, verbally or otherwise.  Those of us who are gay are hyper-aware of this throughout our lives.
 
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