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(WTKR)   Disgraced Blue Angels commander had an oversized penis painted on an airplane hangar's roof in the team's blue and gold colors - so large that it could be seen by satellites and appeared on Google Maps images   (wtkr.com) divider line 100
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2014-06-05 06:25:14 AM  
Since he was one of the Blue Angels are you sure it was oversized? Maybe he just laid it there and traced around it...
 
2014-06-05 06:48:56 AM  
Boys will be boys. lol!
 
2014-06-05 07:09:01 AM  
Maybe he was compensating.
 
2014-06-05 07:50:33 AM  
Blue Angels Penis Hangar:

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2014-06-05 09:08:52 AM  
Highway to the phallic zone.
 
2014-06-05 09:18:18 AM  
These guys sound fun.
 
2014-06-05 09:19:21 AM  
That IS kinda funny, but I guess you have to punish him for it.
 
2014-06-05 09:19:46 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-05 09:20:08 AM  
That's a big dick.
 
2014-06-05 09:21:12 AM  
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Capt. Greg McWherter, who was then commanding officer of the Blue Angels, performs the Flying Clap Delivery System in an air show in Lincoln, Nebraska, on September 10, 2011. (U.S. Navy)
 
2014-06-05 09:21:47 AM  
Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.
 
2014-06-05 09:22:10 AM  
Men in the military look at porn? Say it ain't so!
 
2014-06-05 09:22:21 AM  
How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.
 
2014-06-05 09:22:26 AM  
I like that in the process of describing a painted penis visible from space, the article helpfully called it 'oversized'.
 
2014-06-05 09:22:29 AM  
Hey at least he wasn't gay.
 
2014-06-05 09:23:31 AM  
Yeah, porn will destroy all of us if not prevented on every level.
 
2014-06-05 09:23:33 AM  
My old 1SG used to keep porn and pictures of nekkid ladies on one of those picture frames that rotates through the stored pictures. Whenever the BN CSM or any other VIP would show up, he'd switch the pictures to his family. When they'd leave, the nekkid ladies would come back. Does this kind of stuff make you a better unit? Probably not, but I sure as hell didn't care.
 
2014-06-05 09:24:26 AM  
"...and spread dirty talk  "


Who gives a flying fark.
 
2014-06-05 09:24:36 AM  

for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.


That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.
 
2014-06-05 09:24:49 AM  
Weird, I wonder what happened to make someone who at one point so disciplined into someone so lackadaisical. I guess at one point he just stopped giving a damn - I bet he got screwed over by someone higher up the chain of command. That'd do it.
 
2014-06-05 09:25:44 AM  
So does some one have a link to the hangar dick pic or do I need to find it myself on Google Earth?
 
2014-06-05 09:26:44 AM  

fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.


As a navy veteran I can attest to this....being utterly false and laughably stupid.
 
2014-06-05 09:27:20 AM  

accelerus: How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.


Theoretically, there might be women on the ground crew. Still, IMO this is the kind of thing that's so over the top that it goes beyond offensive into funny territory.
 
2014-06-05 09:27:50 AM  

fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.


Why did it take them so long to let gays openly exist in the military?
 
2014-06-05 09:28:22 AM  
i.lvme.me
 
2014-06-05 09:28:38 AM  
I've worked with a broad speculum of Navy personnel and this level of whoresplay is not the average. In fact, it's quite small.
 
2014-06-05 09:30:47 AM  

for good or for awesome: Why did it take them so long to let gays openly exist in the military?


Because gay porn is icky
 
2014-06-05 09:31:56 AM  

fappomatic: I've worked with a broad speculum of Navy personnel and this level of whoresplay is not the average. In fact, it's quite small.


No, you could see it from space.
 
2014-06-05 09:31:58 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

As a navy veteran I can attest to this....being utterly false and laughably stupid.


Hey buddy.  No need to call fireclown stupid just because you don't agree with him.
 
2014-06-05 09:32:20 AM  
Girls go wild for The Thunderbirds!

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2014-06-05 09:33:28 AM  

for good or for awesome: Just another Heartland Weirdass: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

As a navy veteran I can attest to this....being utterly false and laughably stupid.

Hey buddy.  No need to call fireclown stupid just because you don't agree with him.


His statement was stupid. Lets not get personal here, pal.
 
2014-06-05 09:34:19 AM  
We did this at NASA and no one got mad

www.dickhouse.tv
 
2014-06-05 09:34:59 AM  

accelerus: How about this? Who cares?

I don't overall but I'd at least like to clarify that "can be seen by satellites and appeared on Google Maps" is not only a redundancy for a hangar roof, it's an expectation.
Geosynchronous satellites can easily resolve individual cars -- hell, features on cars -- these days.  Anything larger than a chair can be "seen by satellites".

People are still using "can be seen from space" like it's some kind of OH WOW factor.  The only OH WOW factor is how far satellite tech has improved over the last few decades.
 
2014-06-05 09:35:30 AM  
C'mon, baby.  Just a tip for the Tickle.

img.fark.net
 
2014-06-05 09:37:37 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: for good or for awesome: Just another Heartland Weirdass: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

As a navy veteran I can attest to this....being utterly false and laughably stupid.

Hey buddy.  No need to call fireclown stupid just because you don't agree with him.

His statement was stupid. Lets not get personal here, pal.


I thought you where calling my statement stupid and was making a joke.
 
2014-06-05 09:39:43 AM  

for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?


no, you're not.

so large that it could be seen by satellites and appeared on Google Maps images

could someone PLEASE link a picture of that
 
2014-06-05 09:40:21 AM  

accelerus: How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.


Thank goodness that kind of stupidity is fading. "Elite" != "antisocial asshole".
 
2014-06-05 09:40:23 AM  

mentula: could someone PLEASE link a picture of that


I've been googling without teh successes.
 
2014-06-05 09:41:13 AM  
Im not even sure I was responding to either of you or The Voices. Anyway mistakes were made.....
 
2014-06-05 09:43:27 AM  

hardinparamedic: mentula: could someone PLEASE link a picture of that

I've been googling without teh successes.


i haz a sad
 
2014-06-05 09:45:01 AM  
Apparently he asked two female crewmembers about it and they asked him to tone it down--which he did. Judging from TFA the female crew chiefs found it funny enough to participate in the shenannigans.  That doesn't really scream "hostile work environment" to me; my guess is someone got a bug up their butt about the commander and filed a complaint because they knew it was an easy way to take him down.

Or, something something rape culture something male privilege something something. It's one of those two.
 
2014-06-05 09:54:57 AM  

accelerus: How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.


I pretty much agree. Besides, have you heard the shiat women talk about when men aren't around?
 
2014-06-05 10:03:28 AM  

fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.


Just another Heartland Weirdass: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

As a navy veteran I can attest to this....being utterly false and laughably stupid.



As a current DoD civilian employee I invoke the notsureifserious.jpeg


Since I, on a regular basis, have a front row seat to homophobic rants (LOUD, not secretive rants) about how "queers are ruining the economy with their marriages" and long thought out explaination on how it's so.  Or how "If my boy was in the scouts and some other f@g scout forces himself on my son, there will be hell to pay"

Or how the mooslims have ruined "our"  holidays so we no longer get good friday off because of those ragheads......while they try to get me involved...not knowing I'm atheist.

Meanwhile any of these rants draw a crowd of supporters...95% of whom are in uniform or retired.

 I swear if anyone here found out that a) I'm atheist or b) My uncle was gay and I see nothing wrong with it....that they would find a way to force me outta here.

Luckily I have thick skin and am used to being around idiots...but man could I start one hell of a PR/HR shiatstorm with my DAILY experiences.


for good or for awesome: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

Why did it take them so long to let gays openly exist in the military?


THIS^^^
 
2014-06-05 10:04:10 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-05 10:05:20 AM  
dics or it didn't happen
 
2014-06-05 10:05:28 AM  

Just another Heartland Weirdass: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

As a navy veteran I can attest to this....being utterly false and laughably stupid.


I'm am however, finding it extremely tempting to make a gay Navy joke here...
 
2014-06-05 10:05:45 AM  

the_celt: Maybe he was compensating.


That occurred to me as well. Guys with adequate junk that doesn't go off like nitro on a Sybian tend to, in my experience, not require constant confidence-boosting via porn. Also...who the hell has paper porn anymore, and wouldn'it it be hazardous to have a magazine flying around a cockpit with a HUD in negative Gs? "Crashed jet pilot died with copy of Heavy Hangers stuffed into helmet". That's no way to get buried in Arlington, flyboy.
 
2014-06-05 10:06:54 AM  

FormlessOne: accelerus: How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.

Thank goodness that kind of stupidity is fading. "Elite" != "antisocial asshole".


Thank goodness all kinds of fun is fading. Why even have blue angels to begin with. Performing dangerous tricks for no purposes at all and burning countless gallons of JP-8 contributing to global warming.

Gravity is what creates a hostile work environment for fighter pilots, not porn. Political correctness is going to be the end of us all. All joy is slowly being sucked out of life.
 
2014-06-05 10:09:39 AM  
It's about maintaining a professional workplace. Pornographic imagery in places where others can see it is inappropriate in any situation.

A drawing of a penis on a roof, though? That's just taunting your bosses to make your life a living hell. And if you're in the armed forces, "your boss" is everyone in the command chain all the way up to the President of the United States. Any of your commanders will gladly punish you when faced with citizens or who would scream about this.

Nice career-limiting move, dude.
 
2014-06-05 10:09:51 AM  
 Sex in the cockpits?
 
2014-06-05 10:09:57 AM  
They are called the BLUE Angels people. Hello.

Blue.

Not White Knights.
 
2014-06-05 10:10:04 AM  

astelmaszek: Political correctness is going to be the end of us all. All joy is slowly being sucked out of life.


And by "us all," presumably you mean "people who've favorite activity is acting like a total dipshiat."

Wellbye.jpg.
 
2014-06-05 10:10:04 AM  

Valiente: Guys with adequate junk that doesn't go off like nitro on a Sybian tend to


What kind of porn are you watching?
 
2014-06-05 10:14:01 AM  

for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.


I don't know about the other branches but what I've seen of the Navy it is fairly open and tolerant. At the very least people know behavior like this will quickly tank a career, especially for senior enlisted and officers. My husband's squadron has two married, same-sex couples who regularly attend command events and nobody looks twice at them. The command triad would never allow that type of harassment.
 
2014-06-05 10:16:37 AM  

astelmaszek: Thank goodness all kinds of fun is fading. Why even have blue angels to begin with. Performing dangerous tricks for no purposes at all and burning countless gallons of JP-8 contributing to global warming.


The Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds don't perform "dangerous tricks". The merely showcase routine combat maneuvers in an entertaining way. The performance squadrons serve the purpose of demonstrating to the public a bit of what they are getting for their military tax dollars and they serve as a power recruitment tool. As for their burning through a lot of fuel and contributing to global warming, well, that's like saying removing a cup of water from the ocean will make the shorelines grow. The average commuter city burns more fuel during rush hour than the BAs and TBs burn in a decade. We can debate whether these squadrons are a waste of taxpayer money without resorting to hyperbole.
 
2014-06-05 10:17:17 AM  
I was assuming that the hangar in question would be at NAS Pensacola, but the Google Earth images of NAS Pensacola are penis-free, as far as I can tell. Either the photos have been refreshed since it was painted over, or they did it somewhere else.
 
2014-06-05 10:19:19 AM  
Yup, sounds like the Navy alright.

2KanZam:
As a current DoD civilian employee I invoke the notsureifserious.jpeg


Since I, on a regular basis, have a front row seat to homophobic rants (LOUD, not secretive rants) about how "queers are ruining the economy with their marriages" and long thought out explaination on how it's so.  Or how "If my boy was in the scouts and some other f@g scout forces himself on my son, there will be hell to pay"

Or how the mooslims have ruined "our"  holidays so we no longer get good friday off because of those ragheads......while they try to get me involved...not knowing I'm atheist.

Meanwhile any of these rants draw a crowd of supporters...95% of whom are in uniform or retired.

 I swear if anyone here found out that a) I'm atheist or b) My uncle was gay and I see nothing wrong with it....that they would find a way to force me outta here.

Luckily I have thick skin and am used to being around idiots...but man could I start one hell of a PR/HR shiatstorm with my DAILY experiences.


I got out shortly after Don't Ask, Don't Tell got taken down. There was a huge shiat show during the briefing when the CO of my ship was explaining how things were going to be handled.

/meanwhile, drawing dicks in hidden places and seeing how long it took for Chief to find them was a thing
 
2014-06-05 10:22:15 AM  

vernonFL: Highway to the phallic zone.


forgifs.com
 
2014-06-05 10:22:46 AM  

accelerus: Are there any women in the blue angels?


This can't possibly be a serious question.  Of course there are women in the squadron.
 
2014-06-05 10:22:55 AM  
To be honest, having your gigantic painted wiener visible from space is an achievement that should help him get a contractor job. I mean, that's pretty impressive.
 
2014-06-05 10:24:00 AM  

JackieRabbit: astelmaszek: Thank goodness all kinds of fun is fading. Why even have blue angels to begin with. Performing dangerous tricks for no purposes at all and burning countless gallons of JP-8 contributing to global warming.

The Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds don't perform "dangerous tricks". The merely showcase routine combat maneuvers in an entertaining way. The performance squadrons serve the purpose of demonstrating to the public a bit of what they are getting for their military tax dollars and they serve as a power recruitment tool. As for their burning through a lot of fuel and contributing to global warming, well, that's like saying removing a cup of water from the ocean will make the shorelines grow. The average commuter city burns more fuel during rush hour than the BAs and TBs burn in a decade. We can debate whether these squadrons are a waste of taxpayer money without resorting to hyperbole.



Sarcasm, most children start to pick up on it around the age of 5
 
2014-06-05 10:24:04 AM  
Nothing brings a team together like some good ole fashioned queer bashing.
 
2014-06-05 10:25:27 AM  
I didn't read the article, but Google Earth pics are not taken by satellites.
 
2014-06-05 10:26:44 AM  

JuggleGeek: I didn't read the article, but Google Earth pics are not taken by satellites.


Didn't read the headline, either.
 
2014-06-05 10:26:59 AM  

accelerus: How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.



Tolerating chauvinism
McWherter was not the first to introduce lewd practices to the squadron, but he no longer clamped down as much and sometimes participated.
Pornography had made its way into the squadron around the time the captain's first command ended, the investigation said.
"Both male and female crew chiefs cut out and placed the pornography in the cockpits," it said.
 
2014-06-05 10:27:43 AM  

Cybernetic: I was assuming that the hangar in question would be at NAS Pensacola, but the Google Earth images of NAS Pensacola are penis-free, as far as I can tell. Either the photos have been refreshed since it was painted over, or they did it somewhere else.


Well, it was supposedly at El Centro ( http://goo.gl/maps/hTIDI ), but there's no sign of any penii on a hangar there either, not even in Google Earth's historical imagery.
 
2014-06-05 10:31:26 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Apparently he asked two female crewmembers about it and they asked him to tone it down--which he did. Judging from TFA the female crew chiefs found it funny enough to participate in the shenannigans.  That doesn't really scream "hostile work environment" to me; my guess is someone got a bug up their butt about the commander and filed a complaint because they knew it was an easy way to take him down.

Or, something something rape culture something male privilege something something. It's one of those two.


Fine. Now extrapolate this as acceptable across the entire military. Or any other work environment. Still no problem?
 
2014-06-05 10:34:18 AM  

wxboy: Cybernetic: I was assuming that the hangar in question would be at NAS Pensacola, but the Google Earth images of NAS Pensacola are penis-free, as far as I can tell. Either the photos have been refreshed since it was painted over, or they did it somewhere else.

Well, it was supposedly at El Centro ( http://goo.gl/maps/hTIDI ), but there's no sign of any penii on a hangar there either, not even in Google Earth's historical imagery.


You can see 10 of the Blue Angels F-18s on the tarmac at 32.816894, -115.670912. But no penis on the hangar roof.
 
2014-06-05 10:35:41 AM  

2KanZam: Just another Heartland Weirdass: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

As a navy veteran I can attest to this....being utterly false and laughably stupid.

I'm am however, finding it extremely tempting to make a gay Navy joke here...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw&feature=kp
 
2014-06-05 10:36:18 AM  

astelmaszek: Sarcasm, most children start to pick up on it around the age of 5


Actually, it's surprisingly late.  The ability to understand sarcasm is, like abstract math, linked to physical brain development.  Evidently certain brain injuries will remove a person's ability to recognize sarcasm.  When kids younger than 11 recognize sarcasm, it's through audio cues.

So is JackieRabbit a preteen, or brain damaged?  I don't know that we'll ever find out.
 
2014-06-05 10:39:50 AM  

Damili: accelerus: How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.


Tolerating chauvinism
McWherter was not the first to introduce lewd practices to the squadron, but he no longer clamped down as much and sometimes participated.
Pornography had made its way into the squadron around the time the captain's first command ended, the investigation said.
"Both male and female crew chiefs cut out and placed the pornography in the cockpits," it said.


You mean not all women are pc, frigid nut jobs and enjoy good fun every now and then to break the stress of the job. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
 
2014-06-05 10:44:10 AM  

2KanZam: I'm am however, finding it extremely tempting to make a gay Navy joke here...


We know what you think.
 
2014-06-05 10:44:56 AM  

accelerus: How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.


According to the article, there are female crew members.
 
2014-06-05 10:52:18 AM  

astelmaszek: Sarcasm, most children start to pick up on it around the age of 5


If it was sarcasm, it was pretty weak sarcasm. I know five year olds who can do better.
 
2014-06-05 10:54:59 AM  
Disgraced Blue Angels commander had an oversized penis painted on an airplane hangar's roof in the team's blue and gold colors - so large that it could be seen by satellites and appeared on Google Maps images

Jesus Christ!!
 
2014-06-05 11:00:11 AM  

DrBenway: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Apparently he asked two female crewmembers about it and they asked him to tone it down--which he did. Judging from TFA the female crew chiefs found it funny enough to participate in the shenannigans.  That doesn't really scream "hostile work environment" to me; my guess is someone got a bug up their butt about the commander and filed a complaint because they knew it was an easy way to take him down.

Or, something something rape culture something male privilege something something. It's one of those two.

Fine. Now extrapolate this as acceptable across the entire military. Or any other work environment. Still no problem?


Is it unprofessional? Sure. But if it doesn't impact the unit's operational readiness--or in the case of the Angels, their public perception--then I don't give a flying fark. I expect my country's military personnel to be able to kill our enemies and protect our people and territory, and as long as they can do that, what they do on their downtime is none of my business. Whatever helps you get through a dangerous job, IMO. Frankly, if people in the military can't handle being offended then I fear for what will happen in combat because the enemy is going to be trying to do a lot more than offend them!

The military has a real problem with rape and sexual assault, and compared to that, image-conscious shiat like this is small potatoes. And no, having some porn in the cockpit does not translate to an attitude that rape is okay. Treating rape like it's okay, and covering for the offenders, translates to an attitude that rape is okay. I don't see anything in the article indicating that individuals were deliberately threatened, abused, or assaulted as part of these antics.
 
2014-06-05 11:00:52 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Apparently he asked two female crewmembers about it and they asked him to tone it down--which he did. Judging from TFA the female crew chiefs found it funny enough to participate in the shenannigans.  That doesn't really scream "hostile work environment" to me; my guess is someone got a bug up their butt about the commander and filed a complaint because they knew it was an easy way to take him down.

Or, something something rape culture something male privilege something something. It's one of those two.


I'm a girl and I'm usually game for some crassness. The article said the female crew participated by put magazine photos in the cockpits.

I think the "hostile" issue was probably the email message group. Some guys can do the funny banter and a woman can still be comfortable. But there are definitely guys who can take it too a mean and nasty place.

The putting a picture if a female team member in a bikini up on a wall also possibly crossed a line. If it was done with her consent, cool. If not...yeah, she's gonna feel pressure to stay quiet and go along with it even though she doesn't want her image up
 
2014-06-05 11:07:04 AM  
He's only displaying the same maturity that any of the Blue Angels would have displayed at any point in their lives.

/wasteful fools, the lot of them
 
2014-06-05 11:10:03 AM  

Mad Scientist: C'mon, baby.  Just a tip for the Tickle.

[img.fark.net image 850x273]


Is his call sign 'Elmo'?
 
2014-06-05 11:11:08 AM  

Queensowntalia: astelmaszek: Political correctness is going to be the end of us all. All joy is slowly being sucked out of life.

And by "us all," presumably you mean "people who've favorite activity is acting like a total dipshiat."

Wellbye.jpg.


But but but I can only have fun so long as I know another group of people is being subjugated! Even if I have to do it at work!

/work is work
//leave the fun for at home, princesses
 
2014-06-05 11:15:29 AM  
#YesAllFighterPilots
 
2014-06-05 11:16:01 AM  
Never thought I'd have to search for "penis" in a navy PDF, but here you guys go:

126. A large blue and gold penis was painted on the roof of the
center point trailer at the Blue Angels' winter training
facilities in El Centro. [Encls: (35), (37), (62), (63)]
127. The blue and gold penis was visible from satellite imagery
(e.g. Google Maps). bought paint with his own money
and painted over the penis. This blue and gold penis existed
(b) (6)
(b) (6)
26
through the end of the 2012 airshow season. The penis

From same document:
177. The "Nettie Brown" is one of the culminating events in the
Cresting Process during which the "Newbies" are required to
recite a speech while "Oldbies" seek to distract them through
various means. [Encls: (8), (50), (57)]
178. The purpose of the Nettie Brown is to expose "Newbies" to
circumstances simulating conditions that might exist in some
(b) (6)
(b) (6)
(b) (6)
32
Blue Angels public affairs commitments and to teach "Newbies"
the importance of maintaining discipline and propriety despite
external distraction. [Encls: (46), (50), (57)]
179. The Nettie Brown has in the past included some practices
that reach beyond what might be required to achieve legitimate
goals of the event. For example, prior to 2011, foam penis hats
and mechanical "dog humping" hats were used to create
distractions
for the person reciting the speeches. Ice water
was also thrown on the speaker. [Encls: (44), (46), (50), (57),
(62), (65)]
 
2014-06-05 11:23:04 AM  

for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.


Why do you hate America? if not for our nation's military might there would be no United States as we know it.
 
2014-06-05 11:46:26 AM  
www.busybeeblogger.com
 
2014-06-05 11:57:42 AM  

fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.


FUNNY'd.
 
2014-06-05 12:48:38 PM  

for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.


Blue Angels is paid for by the recruiting budget. They actually measure how effective the money they spend on recruiting toys is, and the Blue Angels are cost-effective for what the Navy gets out of them. Not to mention a kickass form of free entertainment for anyone at or near one of their air shows.
 
2014-06-05 12:51:45 PM  

JackieRabbit: astelmaszek: Thank goodness all kinds of fun is fading. Why even have blue angels to begin with. Performing dangerous tricks for no purposes at all and burning countless gallons of JP-8 contributing to global warming.

The Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds don't perform "dangerous tricks". The merely showcase routine combat maneuvers in an entertaining way. The performance squadrons serve the purpose of demonstrating to the public a bit of what they are getting for their military tax dollars and they serve as a power recruitment tool. As for their burning through a lot of fuel and contributing to global warming, well, that's like saying removing a cup of water from the ocean will make the shorelines grow. The average commuter city burns more fuel during rush hour than the BAs and TBs burn in a decade. We can debate whether these squadrons are a waste of taxpayer money without resorting to hyperbole.


Uh, since when is performing group aerobatics with a six-plane formation at distances as small apart as 18 inches a "routine combat maneuver?"
 
2014-06-05 01:02:04 PM  
Ever since the Tailhook scandal 23 years ago, there's been pretty much a zero-tolerance attitude toward Navy commanders getting caught fostering a sexually libertine (let alone hostile) work environment. This guy, as a CO and president of the freakin' Tailhook Association, certainly knew that, but decided he'd rather play fark-fark with the boys than act like serious skipper. I can see a 30-year-old O-4 doing this, but this guy was an O-6, the equivalent of a full bird colonel in the Army. So he got fired when he got caught. Happens pretty much every day.

This stuff really started during the Vietnam War, when the pilots on liberty in the Philippines or elsewhere in Southeast Asia were basically living in a giant whorehouse. The culture is gradually reverting back to something a bit more professional.

Oh, and McWherter is a graduate of the Citadel from back when it was a He-Man Woman Hater's Club. Tells me everything I need to know about him.
 
2014-06-05 01:08:51 PM  
Is this the guy?

www.aceshowbiz.com
 
2014-06-05 01:52:45 PM  
Being thought of as "part of the team", doubly so in a unit like The Blue Angels, is a big thing.  I can't speak for the ladies in question, but it's entirely possible that they were going along with "the guys" in order to avoid ostracizing.

I had kind of a similar issue when I made my SGT stripes. Took over a squad of all guys, with one woman.  Last squad leader let the guys run wild with porno mags at work, crude jokes, et al.  The female soldier went along with it, "for the sake of the squad, don't want to cause waves".  After I found out she wasn't happy about it, I did the leader thing and told everyone to cut it the hell out, my decision, and if they didn't like it, they could take it up with me.
 
2014-06-05 01:57:13 PM  

astelmaszek: JackieRabbit: astelmaszek: Thank goodness all kinds of fun is fading. Why even have blue angels to begin with. Performing dangerous tricks for no purposes at all and burning countless gallons of JP-8 contributing to global warming.

The Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds don't perform "dangerous tricks". The merely showcase routine combat maneuvers in an entertaining way. The performance squadrons serve the purpose of demonstrating to the public a bit of what they are getting for their military tax dollars and they serve as a power recruitment tool. As for their burning through a lot of fuel and contributing to global warming, well, that's like saying removing a cup of water from the ocean will make the shorelines grow. The average commuter city burns more fuel during rush hour than the BAs and TBs burn in a decade. We can debate whether these squadrons are a waste of taxpayer money without resorting to hyperbole.


Sarcasm, most children start to pick up on it around the age of 5


Your "sarcasm" production gland was removed prior to that it seems though.
 
2014-06-05 02:55:55 PM  

accelerus: How about this?  Who cares?

Are there any women in the blue angels?  If not, how could you call it a hostile work environment?  Sounds to me like a pretty damn fun work place to me... What's that? I get to fly super awesome jets, have tons of pussy thrown at me, and I get to have a porn stash?  Sign. Me. Up.

Why does every group out there want to turn every other group into the same level of "pussy" they are.  If you are a jet flying badass son of a biatch... act like one.  This to me involves dirty jokes, cigars, porno, off color remarks, and other general FUN things.


It's posts lilke this that make the cruel hand of death seem not such a bad thing,
 
2014-06-05 03:30:30 PM  
If wimmen weren't allowed in the military, nekkid pictures most likely wouldn't even be an issue.
 
2014-06-05 03:32:44 PM  
If the only way you can "crank up camaraderie" in your squadron is through frat-boy level shenanigans, perhaps you suck at cranking up camaraderie.
 
2014-06-05 04:19:29 PM  

for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.


you assume wrong

/plenty of pilots are FABULOUS!
 
2014-06-05 06:18:30 PM  
I'll take "Who didn't RTFA" for a thousand, Alex.

/female crew involved - supplied "dirty" pictures for pilots
//satellite image removed from Google
///cockpit
 
2014-06-05 07:02:42 PM  

humanshrapnel: vernonFL: Highway to the phallic zone.

[forgifs.com image 294x170]


Oh shiat, that's funny!
 
2014-06-05 07:24:08 PM  
"Dived", not "dove", Goddammit.
 
2014-06-05 08:01:02 PM  

2KanZam: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

Just another Heartland Weirdass: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

As a navy veteran I can attest to this....being utterly false and laughably stupid.


As a current DoD civilian employee I invoke the notsureifserious.jpeg


Since I, on a regular basis, have a front row seat to homophobic rants (LOUD, not secretive rants) about how "queers are ruining the economy with their marriages" and long thought out explaination on how it's so.  Or how "If my boy was in the scouts and some other f@g scout forces himself on my son, there will be hell to pay"

Or how the mooslims have ruined "our"  holidays so we no longer get good friday off because of those ragheads......while they try to get me involved...not knowing I'm atheist.

Meanwhile any of these rants draw a crowd of supporters...95% of whom are in uniform or retired.

 I swear if anyone here found out that a) I'm atheist or b) My uncle was gay and I see nothing wrong with it....that they would find a way to force me outta here.

Luckily I have thick skin and am used to being around idiots...but man could I start one hell of a PR/HR shiatstorm with my DAILY experiences.


for good or for awesome: fireclown: for good or for awesome: Am I alone in thinking that the Blue Angels is a waste of money and should be dissolved?  I assume most military guys are homophobic.

That's a poor assumption.  The military is a lot more diverse than most people think.

Why did it take them so long to let gays openly exist in the military?

THIS^^^


Because our Commander in Chief, the POTUS, elected by the American people, said the couldn't. At least pretend to not be a farking idiot that has no clue what he's talking about when your bashing the military.
 
2014-06-05 10:51:49 PM  
porn and dirty jokes?  SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING.  The real waste of taxpayer money here was the investigation.
 
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