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(Medical Xpress)   Sodas are higher in sugar than the label claims. But it's got electrolytes   (medicalxpress.com) divider line 58
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2014-06-05 12:54:50 AM
So glad I stopped drinking it years ago. I really don't miss it, because the sweeteners leave a weird aftertaste when you aren't used to the flavor anymore. Granted I still got fat, but I blame the beer, Doritos, and depression-eating for that...
 
2014-06-05 02:04:45 AM
I've lost 70 pounds since November by getting off my ass (hiking) and not eating sugar and most carbohydrates. My resting heart rate has gone from 80 to 54. I feel so much better.
 
2014-06-05 02:51:51 AM
calorielab.com
 
2014-06-05 06:29:11 AM

ladyfortuna: So glad I stopped drinking it years ago. I really don't miss it, because the sweeteners leave a weird aftertaste when you aren't used to the flavor anymore. Granted I still got fat, but I blame the beer, Doritos, and depression-eating for that...


I hate ones made with HFCS because it always feels like it leaves a nasty film of syrup on my teeth and in my throat.
 
2014-06-05 06:34:42 AM
It's what _____s crave!
 
2014-06-05 07:30:03 AM
So... tl;dr, high fructose corn syrup is really high in fructose? Who'd have known?
 
2014-06-05 07:33:19 AM
That's why I stick to beer.
 
2014-06-05 07:34:05 AM
I only drink artisanal sodas sweetened with bald eagle tears.
 
2014-06-05 07:36:35 AM
I don't drink soda anymore, and quench my thirst by drinking everything esle out of my huge ceramic s'mug
 
2014-06-05 07:55:14 AM
Hey, free sugar!
 
2014-06-05 07:57:53 AM
It's funny - I can remember the health nuts from the late 70s-early 80s who told me I should avoid "sugar" (sucrose) and use fructose instead - because fructose was a simpler sugar and therefore better for you.

Of course, honey's still supposed to be better for you - but the primary sugar in honey is fructose, followed by glucose.

Hm.

Has anyone done a study on dietary glucose and weight gain yet? Seems like it ought to work like fructose, but more so...
 
2014-06-05 08:02:47 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I've lost 70 pounds since November by getting off my ass (hiking) and not eating sugar and most carbohydrates. My resting heart rate has gone from 80 to 54. I feel so much better.


Nice job!  I've been there (though didn't lose nearly that much) and the first step is the hardest to take.  It gets a lot easier once you start seeing results.
 
2014-06-05 08:03:02 AM
FWIW - I lost 10 pounds (I was maybe 25 pounds overweight) when I stopped drinking any calories.  Sugary drinks are arguably most direct way to gain weight.

/I know - beer (and wine)
//sigh
 
2014-06-05 08:17:34 AM
I eat and drink stuff, so I'm kind of an expert in this subject. Drinking carbs on any regular basis is a sure fire way to gain weight, and not good weight.

This is not always bad weight. Drinking carbs in the form of lagers and ales promotes the gain of happy weight.

/former fatty
//low carbs and go do stuff
 
2014-06-05 08:19:53 AM
A guy boiled the water off a bottle of Coke to this yummy goodness.
 
2014-06-05 08:21:24 AM

Muta: A guy boiled the water off a bottle of Coke to this yummy goodness.


The image was too large so here is the story.
 
2014-06-05 08:27:31 AM
I'll just use an Idiocracy thread to post pics of Sara Rue

37.media.tumblr.com

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2014-06-05 08:38:59 AM
People drink soda without liquor in it?
 
2014-06-05 08:44:49 AM

stuhayes2010: I'll just use an Idiocracy thread to post pics of Sara Rue

[37.media.tumblr.com image 500x270]

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 177x285]


That's the only real use for an Idiocracy thread.
www.celebritydietdoctor.com
 
2014-06-05 08:46:09 AM
Soda... electrolytes? I thought that electrolytes were in "athletic" drinks like Gatorade, not in drinks like Coke and Dr. Pepper.

/Read the article? Don't mind if I don't!
//Do. Do mind if I do.
/// Mind! Mind do if I mind!
//// Where's my farking coffee!?!?!?!?
 
2014-06-05 09:17:44 AM
Stopped drinking sodas January of this year... cold turkey.  So glad I have, I don't miss them at all.

You can too.
 
2014-06-05 09:24:00 AM
While I have not eliminated soft drinks from my diet, I have greatly reduced my consumption of them.

Unfortunately, my alcohol consumption is still inhibiting weight loss.

/Not yet overweight.
 
2014-06-05 09:24:49 AM

JusticeandIndependence: Stopped drinking sodas January of this year... cold turkey.  So glad I have, I don't miss them at all.


I gave up sodas three weeks ago as part of a cleanse I started at the time. One of the side effects of the cleanse has been that I have very low tolerance for sweetness in general.

CSB Time™:

Mrs. EspiaBoricua gave me a zip of her Coke last week 'to see if I could handle it'. So I took a zip. We're talking 'less than a capful (sp?)' zip. I almost spit it out because of how sweet it tasted; and I ended up having to drink two glasses of water to get the sugary taste out of my mouth. Never again. Bleehhh!!!!
 
2014-06-05 09:29:17 AM

Dimensio: While I have not eliminated soft drinks from my diet, I have greatly reduced my consumption of them.

Unfortunately, my alcohol consumption is still inhibiting weight loss.

/Not yet overweight.


One processed sugar at a time for me. First step was no longer keeping pop in the house (which led me to stop drinking it anywhere but the theater)... now I'm eliminating sugary cereals in favor of steel-cut oats.

Haven't lost a pound or felt any different since giving up the pop, though... Apparently that wasn't causing me any problems.

/not overweight anyway
 
2014-06-05 09:32:01 AM
I'd like to see some independent validation of this study's methodology. If the findings suggest that even all-sucrose Throwback formulas have elevated fructose, I'd think it's more likely that the chemical analysis is flawed than that manufacturers are lying about ingredients in violation of FDA regulations.
 
2014-06-05 09:38:15 AM

poot_rootbeer: If the findings suggest that even all-sucrose Throwback formulas have elevated fructose, I'd think it's more likely that the chemical analysis is flawed than that manufacturers are lying about ingredients in violation of FDA regulations.

Right, because U.S. food manufacturers would never lie about their ingredients.
 
2014-06-05 09:40:00 AM
Ctrl+F for "elec"

0 hits. Subby is a lying sack.
 
2014-06-05 09:43:46 AM
I lol at the people calling me an idiot for the article not mentioning electrolytes and obviously haven't see Idiocracy. /Subby
 
2014-06-05 09:46:53 AM

ladyfortuna: So glad I stopped drinking it years ago. I really don't miss it, because the sweeteners leave a weird aftertaste when you aren't used to the flavor anymore. Granted I still got fat, but I blame the beer, Doritos, and depression-eating for that...


Wow. You're like the lady version of me. I did manage to lose about 15lb when I first stopped drinking soda but I gained it back.
 
2014-06-05 10:05:21 AM
I gave up sugary sodas.  I drink only distilled water, or rainwater, and only pure-grain alcohol .  The added sugar in our diets is a comie plot to make americans fat and lazy so we are easier to take over.
 
2014-06-05 10:15:57 AM
See, I'm thinking of heading in the opposite direction.

Due to homebrewing my own beer, I already have some clear Newcastle ale bottles, bottle caps and a capper. Now if I laid in a supply of spring water and cola flavored Fizzies...

Oh yes. Oh yes. Oh yes.
 
2014-06-05 10:21:25 AM

espiaboricua: JusticeandIndependence: Stopped drinking sodas January of this year... cold turkey.  So glad I have, I don't miss them at all.

I gave up sodas three weeks ago as part of a cleanse I started at the time. One of the side effects of the cleanse has been that I have very low tolerance for sweetness in general.

CSB Time™:

Mrs. EspiaBoricua gave me a zip of her Coke last week 'to see if I could handle it'. So I took a zip. We're talking 'less than a capful (sp?)' zip. I almost spit it out because of how sweet it tasted; and I ended up having to drink two glasses of water to get the sugary taste out of my mouth. Never again. Bleehhh!!!!


Giving up soda is good, but cleanses are a waste of money and really bad for you.
 
2014-06-05 10:24:28 AM

poot_rootbeer: I'd like to see some independent validation of this study's methodology. If the findings suggest that even all-sucrose Throwback formulas have elevated fructose, I'd think it's more likely that the chemical analysis is flawed than that manufacturers are lying about ingredients in violation of FDA regulations.


The study was done using both liquid and gas chromatography.  Those are highly standard instruments for all sorts of chemical analysis.

Disclaimer, I work in one of those independent labs (not sure if we did this study though).  Suppliers may lie about this stuff, but more often it's a case where their manufacturing methods are so inconsistent that any given can or bottle you test will be highly variable in its content.

For example, there's a certain wildly popular energy drink on the market that may have as little as 50% of the claimed caffeine, or as much as 2x.  You roll the dice each time you buy one.
 
2014-06-05 10:24:41 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: See, I'm thinking of heading in the opposite direction. Due to homebrewing my own beer, I already have some clear Newcastle ale bottles, bottle caps and a capper. Now if I laid in a supply of spring water and cola flavored Fizzies...

That actually gets me thinking, what does fermented cola taste like?  My understanding is that you can turn pretty much any sort of sugar water into booze.  Soft drinks are as cheap as it gets, so it should be the ideal ingredient for hooch.  Hell if I was homeless I'd buy me some yeast, garbage bags and some 2-liters with the handouts and do that shiat all day.

/ Looked it up and it turns out the preservatives kill the yeast
// I guess we'll never know
 
2014-06-05 10:25:31 AM

dragonchild: poot_rootbeer: If the findings suggest that even all-sucrose Throwback formulas have elevated fructose, I'd think it's more likely that the chemical analysis is flawed than that manufacturers are lying about ingredients in violation of FDA regulations.
Right, because U.S. food manufacturers would never lie about their ingredients.


Either way I have been assured by farkers that calorie counts are perfectly accurate, both the measurement and labeling.
 
2014-06-05 10:27:08 AM

Dimensio: While I have not eliminated soft drinks from my diet, I have greatly reduced my consumption of them.

Unfortunately, my alcohol consumption is still inhibiting weight loss.

/Not yet overweight.


I'm on and off with soda. Last week was a lapse but this week is doing better. I cut back on flavored water and mostly drink 2-3 bottle waters a day

All this healthy living work and change and yet I'll probably be crushed by a meteor in the end.
 
2014-06-05 10:29:26 AM

poot_rootbeer: I'd like to see some independent validation of this study's methodology. If the findings suggest that even all-sucrose Throwback formulas have elevated fructose, I'd think it's more likely that the chemical analysis is flawed than that manufacturers are lying about ingredients in violation of FDA regulations.


Wouldn't the FDA pursue them if they packaged LESS than what the label promised?
 
2014-06-05 10:29:49 AM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: See, I'm thinking of heading in the opposite direction.

Due to homebrewing my own beer, I already have some clear Newcastle ale bottles, bottle caps and a capper. Now if I laid in a supply of spring water and cola flavored Fizzies...

Oh yes. Oh yes. Oh yes.


I would not know anything about placing homebrew into glass cola bottles so that I can enjoy a "Coke" in normally dry areas.
 
2014-06-05 10:36:01 AM

John Nash: Suppliers may lie about this stuff, but more often it's a case where their manufacturing methods are so inconsistent that any given can or bottle you test will be highly variable in its content.


On the contrary, manufacturers are so cost-conscious -- and marketers so obsessed with consistency -- that they often micromanage their supplies.  I worked in industry so I've seen how they can get amazingly consistent about it.  Hell, it's a selling point; consumers hate variety.  When they are inconsistent, it's because they want to be.  Of course, here's where the "oops" factor comes in.  There are few meaningful regulations on food but you're supposed to at least get the list of ingredients right.  If some "throwback" formula which supposedly uses only sucrose has a lopsided fructose-glucose ratio, it's adulterated and they damn well know it.  But they don't want to say they added fructose, that would get them on Consumerist real fast, so they "oops" it.  Uh, we didn't know our workers were throwing fructose into the sucrose vat.  It's not our fault.  Here, we'll fire the guy who did that.  It won't happen again, we promise.

As they'd have you believe it, manufacturers never lie about farking with their supplies, it's always that they were "mishandled".
 
2014-06-05 10:47:53 AM
"The human body isn't designed to process this form of sugar at such high levels. Unlike glucose, which serves as fuel for the body, fructose is processed almost entirely in the liver where it is converted to fat."

No @#%!.  The human body can't handle that much of ANY form of sugar at such high levels.

/also, is he a proponent of creation theory?
 
2014-06-05 10:56:13 AM

Saiga410: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: See, I'm thinking of heading in the opposite direction.

Due to homebrewing my own beer, I already have some clear Newcastle ale bottles, bottle caps and a capper. Now if I laid in a supply of spring water and cola flavored Fizzies...

Oh yes. Oh yes. Oh yes.

I would not know anything about placing homebrew into glass cola bottles so that I can enjoy a "Coke" in normally dry areas.


I like the cut of your jib. Was it an Irish stout? I bet it was.
 
2014-06-05 11:20:27 AM
I dropped the soda when I was losing weight a couple of years ago. Probably wasn't the determining factor, but it was certainly a big help. Another positive was that I didn't get the sugar spikes anymore - like a half hour after drinking a coke, I'd feel all run down.

/Went from 230 to 180, feeling excellent
//The wife just recently kicked her coke habit
///Also her soda habit
 
2014-06-05 11:47:45 AM

reillan: "The human body isn't designed to process this form of sugar at such high levels. Unlike glucose, which serves as fuel for the body, fructose is processed almost entirely in the liver where it is converted to fat."

No @#%!.  The human body can't handle that much of ANY form of sugar at such high levels.

/also, is he a proponent of creation theory?


It's not entirely wrong - there's a rate-limiting reversible reaction in the the glucose-digesting pathway that moderates how fast glucose can get broken down, but there isn't such a step in the process fructose goes through.

(But you're still right that artificially-large amounts of neither sugar is particularly healthy...)
 
2014-06-05 12:00:38 PM

espiaboricua: So I took a zip. We're talking 'less than a capful (sp?)' zip. I almost spit it out because of how sweet it tasted; and I ended up having to drink two glasses of water to get the sugary taste out of my mouth. Never again. Bleehhh!!!!


bullshiat.  unmitigated, complete, unadulterated, fark level bullshiat.
 
2014-06-05 12:35:17 PM

robertus: I dropped the soda when I was losing weight a couple of years ago. Probably wasn't the determining factor, but it was certainly a big help. Another positive was that I didn't get the sugar spikes anymore - like a half hour after drinking a coke, I'd feel all run down.

/Went from 230 to 180, feeling excellent
//The wife just recently kicked her coke habit
///Also her soda habit


Now you're just talking smack...
 
2014-06-05 12:58:52 PM
imgs.xkcd.com

I can't get through a whole egg without starting to feel sick, yet I can pound sodas all day.  That's kind of terrifying.  I've been telling myself I should cut soda for a while now, and there's no reason other than sheer laziness why I haven't.
 
2014-06-05 01:00:36 PM

miniflea: I can't get through a whole egg without starting to feel sick


that is because cadbury eggs are goddamn gross.  now cadbury caramel eggs, those are orgasms wrapped in gold foil.
 
2014-06-05 02:16:13 PM

miniflea: [imgs.xkcd.com image 714x274]

I can't get through a whole egg without starting to feel sick, yet I can pound sodas all day.  That's kind of terrifying.  I've been telling myself I should cut soda for a while now, and there's no reason other than sheer laziness why I haven't.


I can eat the hell out of eggs all day long ... but soda takes up more volume so I hit the limit earlier.
 
2014-06-05 05:20:52 PM
I feel like a total health douche when I say it, but my wife and I all but gave up sodas several years ago when we were scraping for money and decided that rather than paying all that money for soda, we'd just spring for a Brita pitcher and drink water.

We didn't lose a bunch of weight all of a sudden, but it sure makes it easier to lose a few pounds when I only have to watch what I eat and just drink MORE of the water I was already drinking, rather than cutting out soda and learning to drink a ton of water instead.

Recently I was diagnosed diabetic and with high triglycerides and blood pressure. I more or less cut out white carbs in favor for whole wheat (not cutting them out, but replacing them with whole grain carbs), stopped to think before I had a snack ("Is this snack worth being less healthy?" Usually, the answer is no...), and tripled my water intake (with the occasional unsweetened iced tea). Two months later, I've dropped 20lbs, halved my triglycerides, and normalized my blood pressure, and my hemoglobin A1c is just 0.1% away from being completely non-diabetic.

I haven't really exercised much at all or changed much of my lifestyle other than what I mentioned above, and I can already tell that I'm way healthier. I have a ways to go, but I can already see what cutting out refined sugars and refined carbs has done for me.

I see people not only drinking hundreds of calories of pure liquid sugar on a regular basis, but in fact fighting for their right to do so, and I can only wonder if they just don't know better or just have a long-term death wish. I mean, nothing wrong with liking a soda now and again, but I think about what I could get for that amount of empty calories and wonder what all the fuss is about.
 
2014-06-05 05:22:11 PM

Girl Pants: So... tl;dr, high fructose corn syrup is really high in fructose? Who'd have known?


The real issue is that sodas that claim to use real sugar instead of HFCS are actually still throwing in HFCS and not telling anyone.
 
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