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(Daily Mail)   The fire hydrant gets its first major makeover in 100 years. Your dog is not impressed   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-06-04 12:17:22 PM  
I'm guessing that 3 sniffs and 1 walk around will be good enough for most dogs to accept them.
 
2014-06-04 12:47:58 PM  
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2014-06-04 01:50:28 PM  
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2014-06-04 01:51:54 PM  
I didn't know the old ones were unreliable. I would have figured we would see more stories about fires burning down houses because the hydrant is broken.
 
2014-06-04 01:55:52 PM  

cgraves67: I didn't know the old ones were unreliable. I would have figured we would see more stories about fires burning down houses because the hydrant is broken.


We would, except that house fires are actually pretty rare, and most that do happen are minor. My source of info: My brother is a firefighter in a major metropolitan area. Most of what he does is run medical calls.
 
2014-06-04 01:56:23 PM  
This fire hydrant ate my dog.

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2014-06-04 01:56:30 PM  
FTFA: "Sigelakis wants to see them in all major cities."

Of course he does. He sells them.
 
2014-06-04 01:56:50 PM  
Calling it a makeover implies that the only changes were to its appearance. The way I read it, a professional knew the existing hydrants had several design flaws and found a way to eliminate them. That goes a little beyond "makeover."
 
2014-06-04 01:58:02 PM  
Well, I guess you have to work inside an industry to recognize a problem. Of course, he's designed something that'll outlive the pipe it's attached to.
 
2014-06-04 01:58:54 PM  

cgraves67: I didn't know the old ones were unreliable. I would have figured we would see more stories about fires burning down houses because the hydrant is broken.


They aren't unreliable; they are very simple devices and are designed to last for a century or more. The fire department inspects them regularly to make sure they are functioning correctly. But how are you - a hydrant manufacturer hawking a new style - going to convince municipalities that they need to spend money on your hydrants if you can't get the press to publish stories that make people think that their kids may die in their sleep because the hydrant out front is old and busted.
 
2014-06-04 01:59:23 PM  
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2014-06-04 01:59:59 PM  
Chewing gum in the key trench would screw things up pretty good.
 
2014-06-04 02:00:21 PM  
Sounds like it's dog friendly (it just sits there sending a message to most pooches of "pee on me").  What it's not so friendly for are the inner city utes who open them up during heat waves.
 
2014-06-04 02:01:20 PM  
Well, since it's tamper proof, it'll keep the inner city folk from opening them up to cool off. So then they'll get all cranky in a heat wave and burn down the neighborhood.
 
2014-06-04 02:01:52 PM  
Nice to see the smoother lines, without the cast-iron look to it with all the ridges and protuberances of the old ones.  I predict that the taggers will take to these much faster .
 
2014-06-04 02:02:36 PM  
Of course my dog is not impressed. He's dead.
 
2014-06-04 02:03:48 PM  
I think Buddy will figure out how to piss on one of those. If not, I'll show him.
 
2014-06-04 02:04:13 PM  

BlackMtnMan: Of course my dog is not impressed. He's dead.


Q: How does he smell?
A: Awful!
 
2014-06-04 02:06:01 PM  
Looks to me like you just need a star wrench and a big allen key to open it.
 
2014-06-04 02:07:02 PM  

oldernell: I'm guessing that 3 sniffs and 1 walk around will be good enough for most dogs to accept them.


This

Prey4reign: Sounds like it's dog friendly (it just sits there sending a message to most pooches of "pee on me").


and that

I got a beagle that'll pee on anything not moving, once he gets outside.
 
2014-06-04 02:07:20 PM  

Matthew Keene: Well, since it's tamper proof, it'll keep the inner city folk from opening them up to cool off. So then they'll get all cranky in a heat wave and burn down the neighborhood.


Nothing is tamper proof if you have a killdozer
 
2014-06-04 02:07:31 PM  

cgraves67: I didn't know the old ones were unreliable. I would have figured we would see more stories about fires burning down houses because the hydrant is broken.


I'd guess that the problem was more that since they aren't used very often, issues often aren't detected until they are needed, which is a bad time to find problems.
 
2014-06-04 02:07:51 PM  
In other news, an entire Long Island neighborhood burned to the ground today when firefighters arrived on scene, only to discover that they'd lost the special tool needed to open the tamper proof hydrants that were installed last week.
 
2014-06-04 02:08:03 PM  
Something that requires a special proprietary tool to use in an emergency. Sounds like an awesome idea.
 
2014-06-04 02:09:03 PM  
I bet Rob Ford will still be able to stumble into them.


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2014-06-04 02:09:13 PM  
Tamperproof eh?

Sigelock  wrenches available on Ebay in 3..2...
 
2014-06-04 02:10:00 PM  
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!
 
2014-06-04 02:10:13 PM  

Hand Banana: Something that requires a special proprietary tool to use in an emergency. Sounds like an awesome idea.


Yeah, there are special wrenches for standard hydrants, too. They're standard issue in firetrucks. Occasionally, they get left on a hydrant, which is where I found mine.
 
2014-06-04 02:11:08 PM  
How about you put a mist-maker on ALL inner-city hydrants?
I'm not talking full on sprinkler, and hundreds of gallons, but a nice mist to cool people off.

Anyone in an urban area want to weight in on this?
I live in the hills of Vermont, so I hit an ice cold waterfall to cool off and don't have a dog in this fight.
 
2014-06-04 02:11:29 PM  

Brick-House: If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!


It is, that's the problem.
 
2014-06-04 02:12:01 PM  

Hand Banana: Something that requires a special proprietary tool to use in an emergency. Sounds like an awesome idea.


Are the five-sided wrenches used for conventional hydrants not proprietary tools? I know you can get by with a pipe wrench on those but I've never heard of a fire department that had to, nor anyone who wasn't a firefighter truly needing to.
 
2014-06-04 02:12:25 PM  
gawd that thing is ugly.  was a requirement that it had to be even worse looking than its predecessor???
 
2014-06-04 02:13:38 PM  

BlackMtnMan: Of course my dog is not impressed. He's dead.


He'd be rolling over in his grave if you ever taught him how.
 
2014-06-04 02:13:52 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Matthew Keene: Well, since it's tamper proof, it'll keep the inner city folk from opening them up to cool off. So then they'll get all cranky in a heat wave and burn down the neighborhood.

Nothing is tamper proof if you have a killdozer


What he said,  nothing is tamper proof.
 
2014-06-04 02:15:15 PM  

susler: Smeggy Smurf: Matthew Keene: Well, since it's tamper proof, it'll keep the inner city folk from opening them up to cool off. So then they'll get all cranky in a heat wave and burn down the neighborhood.

Nothing is tamper proof if you have a killdozer

What he said,  nothing is tamper proof.


They'll just invent a better tamper.
 
2014-06-04 02:15:45 PM  
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2014-06-04 02:15:54 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Matthew Keene: Well, since it's tamper proof, it'll keep the inner city folk from opening them up to cool off. So then they'll get all cranky in a heat wave and burn down the neighborhood.

Nothing is tamper proof if you have a killdozer


Speaking of which, today is the 10th anniversary of the Granby, CO killdozer rampage.
 
2014-06-04 02:16:09 PM  

vudukungfu: How about you put a mist-maker on ALL inner-city hydrants?
I'm not talking full on sprinkler, and hundreds of gallons, but a nice mist to cool people off.

Anyone in an urban area want to weight in on this?
I live in the hills of Vermont, so I hit an ice cold waterfall to cool off and don't have a dog in this fight.


Even in a drought and with budget problems, the city of Dallas keeps water parks going in poor neighborhoods, sometimes soliciting donations to do so, because it's better for everybody if high school kids are taking their little brothers and sisters to the water parks rather than spending the whole summer bored and furious.
 
2014-06-04 02:20:55 PM  
Can it flatten cars when people park in front of them?
 
2014-06-04 02:21:17 PM  

BitwiseShift: This fire hydrant ate my dog.


"What do you get when you cross R2D2 with a bunch of sex toys?"
 
2014-06-04 02:21:44 PM  

Hand Banana: Something that requires a special proprietary tool to use in an emergency. Sounds like an awesome idea.


It works for manholes. Plus, people will figure out an easily improvised alternative opening method, like they do for everything else.
 
2014-06-04 02:21:45 PM  
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2014-06-04 02:22:21 PM  
George Sigelakis, founder of a company called Sigelock Systems, told Fastcoexist.com: 'It would shock you how often fire hydrants don't work when you need them.  'People live under a false sense of security. People don't realize they need it until they need it, and when they need it, it doesn't work.' In January, a blaze on Long Island raged out of control while firefighters searched for a hydrant that wasn't frozen. A girl died in a Detroit fire when a working hydrant was nowhere to be found, while a report from Atlanta this month found many of the city's hydrants are dry.

Because everything works when you don't maintain it. Because these hydrants are magically maintenence-free.

I won't cum in your mouth
The check is in the mail
This device is maintenence-free
 
2014-06-04 02:23:25 PM  
So how much do you think I could earn selling tools to open them? Looks like an oversized Pentalobe with center post, or something you might see on an anti-theft lug nut...


cgraves67: I didn't know the old ones were unreliable. I would have figured we would see more stories about fires burning down houses because the hydrant is broken.


They need to be maintained, which if they are at all usually just means cracking them open once every year or two and letting them run a few minutes, just to see if they break in the process.

Actually watched this in action once... couldn't open it with a wrench, put a ~4' pipe on the wrench. Still couldn't open it, put a ~8' pipe on the wrench. Two guys on that still couldn't open it? Back the truck up into the lever... popped right open.
=Smidge=
 
2014-06-04 02:24:45 PM  
Don't towns and cities usually inspect and flush all hydrants yearly? I've never thought it was an issue.
 
2014-06-04 02:26:37 PM  

YixilTesiphon: it's better for everybody if high school kids are taking their little brothers and sisters to the water parks rather than spending the whole summer bored and furious.


bingo.
it's a crowd calmer.
 
2014-06-04 02:27:15 PM  
Ah, modern journalism.  Failing at...well...everything.

"Here is a new fire hydrant design.  Did you know that many of our current hydrants don't work?"
So...what's the problem, there.  When a firefighter tries to take the caps off to attach his hose, they're stuck?  When he's hooked up and tries to open the valve, it don't turn?
"No, they're dry!"
...ok some of us know that fire hydrants get their water from pipes buried underground.  If the pipes are empty, it isn't going to matter what you've got sticking up from the sidewalk.  Why are the pipes empty?
"Because the old style hydrants were prone to cracking, leaking, and being farked with by people who wanted to use them as anti-heatwave entertainment, so the water utility shut down the feeds.  This new style resists all that."
Ahhh, now you're talking.  Like pulling teeth to get the point outta you, but there we go.   So...how DOES the firefighter hook his hose up to this thing?
 
2014-06-04 02:29:26 PM  
untaken_name:
It works for manholes. Plus, people will figure out an easily improvised alternative opening method, like they do for everything else.

I don't know how the manholes are built where you are, but I can open them with a standard hardware store crowbar...
 
2014-06-04 02:31:01 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: Don't towns and cities usually inspect and flush all hydrants yearly? I've never thought it was an issue.


They do it twice a year in my town, usually in the middle of the night.
 
2014-06-04 02:31:28 PM  

cgraves67: Speaking of which, today is the 10th anniversary of the Granby, CO killdozer rampage.


Awesome stuff. Forgot all bout it. Long live the KILLDOZER!

/Clint Walker, NO!
 
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