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(TreeHugger)   Bathrooms are the most expensive rooms in the house, do you really need three?   (treehugger.com) divider line 30
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4885 clicks; posted to Main » on 04 Jun 2014 at 8:35 AM (17 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-06-04 07:10:24 AM
5 votes:
Subby obviously doesnt have 3 daughters.  You don't want them anywhere near your throne.
2014-06-04 03:01:26 AM
5 votes:
If bathrooms are the most expensive in the house then someone can't do math.  Add up the price of the refrigerator, the stove, the microwave, the cabinets, the vent over the stove, and someone failed basic math in the 7th grade as compared to a sink, a toilet and a bath/shower.
2014-06-04 07:02:26 AM
3 votes:
Sometimes, there are people in your household (whom you can't kick out due to blood or something) that you do NOT want to share a bathroom with. That alone makes it worth it....

/shivers
2014-06-04 09:30:35 AM
2 votes:
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Which is why if you live with a woman, you need at least two bathrooms.
2014-06-04 09:15:46 AM
2 votes:
Growing up in a house with 4 kids, 2 parents, and one invalid grandmother and having only 1.5 bathrooms, yes, three bathrooms ARE needed.

Since I moved out on my own, I have had at least 2 bathrooms.  I don't need 2 bathrooms for myself, but one for when I have family over and one for myself.  I never want to have to wait in line for a toilet again.

Some luxuries don't have a price.
2014-06-04 09:07:23 AM
2 votes:
The article doesn't quantify how bathrooms are "the most expensive room in the house" Cost of construction? Maintenance/upkeep, water?  I don't get it - as someone pointed out, the kitchen is WAY more expensive.  At any rate, I suppose the "tree hugger" author is probably a "if it's yellow let it mellow" type - I knew one of those once - freakin GROSS.

I found the linked account of 43% of new home buyers using cash more intriguing.
2014-06-04 08:59:17 AM
2 votes:
Unless you live alone I think you need at least two full baths, but two terlets is a must for multiple people.  If everybody gets a stomach virus at the same time I don't even know how you could handle that situation with one.
2014-06-04 03:29:53 AM
2 votes:
One off the living room (for guests). One connected to the master bedroom. One for general use at the other end of the upstairs hall.

That's the bare minimum, unless you live in a studio apartment the size of a shoebox.

You'd also want one in the garage, if possible. And one connected to the guest bedroom for their privacy.

So 5 bathrooms are needed as a minimum for a typical home. I'm not sure why anyone's trying to insinuate that having three is somehow wasteful.
2014-06-04 05:57:33 PM
1 votes:
Just popped back in to say thanks for the responses re: the basement sewage pumps.


Really never thought I'd say that but here we are.
2014-06-04 12:29:40 PM
1 votes:

Englebert Slaptyback: durbnpoisn

This might sound like a silly question, but exactly how would you put a toilet in the basement? Assuming it's below the drains, which it would be, you would require a pump to get the water out of there. And that's not exactly easy considering the stuff that goes through a toilet.


Some houses are built with rough-ins in the basement to facilitate building a bathroom later. It would be pretty easy to install a toilet (properly) in such a place.

And your assumption is not correct. :-) Even in my previous house (early 20th century) the drains and sewer lines were below basement level.


Well, that's not always true, especially in areas where the water table is close to the surface.  Then you need one of these:

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2014-06-04 12:09:21 PM
1 votes:

loaba: Baths and Kitchens are easily the most expensive rooms in the house.

As for number of baths required, that depends on your family size (or if you even have a family at all.) Typically, over say the last 30 years or so, you're going to have 2 full baths (tub/shower combo, pisser and sink) and probably at least one quarter bath (sink and pisser.) Extra points are awarded for a what is called a half-bath (shower stall, sink and pisser) and you're off the charts if your master has an ensuite (that's the big farker with a full shower and and a big-ass tub and room for farking easy chairs.)

Growing up, we had a 2 fulls and a quarter bath. Since I moved to New Mexico, we've never had more than two baths in our older homes. With 3 kids, it's imperative that the disgusting spawn have they're own bathroom. Kids are filthy.


Your count is wrong. Each fixture is a quarter. Sink, toilet, shower, tub. Now a tub can have a shower in it or you can have a separate tub and shower.
1/4 bath = toilet only
1/2 bath = toilet& sink
3/4 bath = toilet , sink, & shower stall
Full bath = toilet, sink, tub & shower
2014-06-04 10:50:03 AM
1 votes:
The house I'm buying has two. One for me and one for him. Because without fail, right before I need to leave for work (and need to pee before I go) he's in there taking a dump.
2014-06-04 10:36:17 AM
1 votes:

Yellow Beard: adm_crunch: By the time I'm done with my luxury master bath remodel, it will be the most expensive room in the house. Doing it myself, so I'm saving thousands. Even then, it's gonna be north of $10K. Would probably have been 25-30K if I'd hired a pro.

Wait until you do the kitchen. $10k is what I spent on the granite counters. Don't get me started on the cabinets and appliances.


Yeah, I thought that was hilarious.  I think I just spent north of a grand just to paint cabinets, add a backsplash, and change the sink.  A full gut and proper re-layout / renew with cabinets, stone, tile, new appliances, and a hint of structural work would be north of $30k -- if I DIY'ed _everything_.  And that's without gas plumbing in the equation (unfortunately).

Kitchen wins for cost -- with one caveat.  If you have anything resembling taste or an eye for quality *and* a real tile store (not some "Tile Store(TM)" or big box), you can get in trouble *fast*.  "Ooooh... that's nice..." < flip over sample card > "$75 a square?!"  Of course, the kitchen needs tile, too, but baths just seem like the place to use (a) a lot of (b) expensive tile, where the kitchen feels more appropriate to slap down builder grade stuff with a few high-end pieces thrown in, but YMMV.  I could see spending more in a bath if you care about tile and tub/faucet stuff more than appliances, but I have a hard time thinking there are many people who want a high end bath and cheap-o appliances / kitchen finishes.

If you're one to fall down the rabbit hole of pointless expense, it's way easier to spend more in the kitchen.  But both can become ridiculous money holes.

Someone tried to break into my house a while back:  I am not entirely kidding when I say I feel like hanging up signs saying, "the most expensive thing in this house is the tile cemented to the wall in the shower, dumbasses.  Good luck even moving that, let alone pawning it."

Of course, if you're an audiophile with more money than sense, the home theater wins the Stupid Amount Of Money contest by *leaps*and*bounds*, but that's a different topic.

As for numbers of baths... after reading this thread, I think it's all about what you're used to (like so many things!).  I spent the *vast* majority of my adult life in one-bath housing situations, so having two now seems to be both a luxury and an unnecessary pain in the ass.  I imagine it's a different game with kids, though.  Even then, two seems like enough, but to each their own.

/ would rather spend more on the garage than anywhere else, but that's still a project for another day
2014-06-04 10:17:58 AM
1 votes:

senoy: It'd occasionally be nice to have another toilet since our teenage daughter apparently thinks that a short shower is roughly two years long, but other than that, it's really not a big deal.


Low flow shower heads that point straight down and can't be angled work well for shortening teenager showers.

Hint: It's not about cleanliness.
2014-06-04 10:03:40 AM
1 votes:
We have too many damn bathrooms in the house we bought. Master bath off our master bed room, half bath in the hall off the kitchen for guests. Full bath upstairs, and a full bath in between the kids room and guest bedroom.. So 3 1/2. But it's technically a 5 bed room home (4 + office).
2014-06-04 09:14:26 AM
1 votes:
I guess you need extra toilets too if you're breeding spastic dorks that have to be strapped in to do their business.
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2014-06-04 09:03:35 AM
1 votes:
I'd normally prefer two bathrooms but luckily my wife and daughter are not the endless-primping sort of girls so the four of us make do with one okay.

My son and I could do with one of these, though...a proper floor-to-shoulder gigantic robber-baron urinal with plenty of space on top to rest your pint or whisky-glass

www.blogcdn.com
2014-06-04 09:00:14 AM
1 votes:
We have one bathroom (for 6 people) and I hate it.  It was especially horrible a couple of weeks ago when we were dealing with a stomach bug.  There was literally a line a few times.

My favorite house layout so far has been a half-bath downstairs, full bath in the hallway upstairs, and half bath en suite to the master bedroom.  I'm happy with scheduling shower times, but you use the toilet much more often.
2014-06-04 09:00:00 AM
1 votes:

hej: Crudbucket: We just moved into a new apartment and the bathrooms are carpeted. I don't farking get it.

It helps insure all the stray urine sprinkles get extra fermented over time.


Buy, don't rent a carpet cleaner.  I have two boys who are not entirely accurate yet.
2014-06-04 08:59:21 AM
1 votes:
The laundry sink in the basement counts as a urinal, right?
2014-06-04 08:57:41 AM
1 votes:
Our house was built in 1929 and has a single bathroom for me, my wife and our 3 kids. We thought about putting in another one, but we don't want to steal any of our living space away. It's rarely a big deal. It'd occasionally be nice to have another toilet since our teenage daughter apparently thinks that a short shower is roughly two years long, but other than that, it's really not a big deal.

What people fail to understand is that the more bathrooms you have, the more bathrooms you have to clean. Unless you're one of the 1% who can hire someone to do it for you, five bathrooms is a heck of a lot of toilet scrubbing to do every week. Our last house was a two bathroom affair and it was a serious pain to have to clean them both every week.
2014-06-04 08:56:04 AM
1 votes:
The neighbors backyard is free!
2014-06-04 08:55:25 AM
1 votes:

Crudbucket: We just moved into a new apartment and the bathrooms are carpeted. I don't farking get it.


BARF BARF BARF BARF BARF

When we bought our first house the powder room was carpeted, and the toilet sprang a leak.

BARF BARF BARF

We are moving into a gutted and redone 1910 townhouse. One major upgrade - there are now two full bathrooms on the second floor. Sure, you could make it work without that, but it's a lot easier with it.
2014-06-04 08:54:09 AM
1 votes:
Was watching one of those "flip this house and make a fortune" shows the other night (thought they died with the housing crash but apparently we back to party time!)

Anyway, the dude is complaining he needs to spend $4k to replace the roof.  10 seconds later they're talking about spending almost $2k on the door to the shower... the door...

/bathrooms got nothing on kitchens for a place to set large piles of money on fire.
hej
2014-06-04 08:47:38 AM
1 votes:

Crudbucket: We just moved into a new apartment and the bathrooms are carpeted. I don't farking get it.


It helps insure all the stray urine sprinkles get extra fermented over time.
2014-06-04 08:46:54 AM
1 votes:
How many bathrooms should there be in a family house?

One.

Although a second toilet could be useful.
2014-06-04 08:46:14 AM
1 votes:
Does a window count as a toilet?
2014-06-04 08:42:08 AM
1 votes:
More bedrooms and more bathrooms tends to mean the place is intended for roommates/multiple families, not a single family.  The current place I'm renting now has a bedroom/bathroom layout that only makes sense for roommates who may not want to share bathrooms.  For a single family it's a bit nuts.
2014-06-04 07:24:01 AM
1 votes:
Master bath, everyone else, and a half bath in a convenient location?  That seems pretty reasonable to me.  My wife and I share one and sometimes that causes problems if we had kids there is no way in hell I would want to only have one and if we lived in a house there is no way I want guests traipsing upstairs to use either my sanctum or my kids bathroom.
2014-06-04 06:47:23 AM
1 votes:
My feces requires a luxurious resting place.
 
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