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(Foodbeast)   About damn time: Oreo creme-stuffed Chips Ahoy cookies are now in store   (foodbeast.com) divider line 57
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2014-06-04 01:30:51 PM  
Pass.

Instead, Chips Ahoy with Nutella taken from the fridge.
Om nom nom...
 
2014-06-04 02:50:49 PM  

peterthx: jxb465: Pants full of macaroni!!: Wait wait wait.... a thread about Oreos that hasn't yet devolved into a "Hydrox wereare infinitely betterer" slamfest?  How can this be?

FTFY

/You didn't hear they are bringing Hydrox back?
//Oreos are still better because they soak up milk better.

Hydrox? Hydrox???

That's how the kids in the cafeteria could tell if someone's family was poor.

/my family didn't have much money but at least they didn't buy those generic tasting knock-offs


Blasphemy!!
 
2014-06-04 02:54:13 PM  

Cold_Sassy: reillan: Biv: reillan: can we please, please just have a federal ban on added sugars.

If it was sugar we'd be in good shape.  It's high fructose corn syrup that is killing us.

Actually, that's not true.  Fructose is fructose.  It's chemically identical whether you get it from HFCS or sugar.

In fact, fructose may be *better* than sugar, as sugar contains both glucose and fructose, and part of fructose's function relates to glucose.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/4/895.full

In this study, sugar caused greater weight gain that fructose:
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37385 http://www.sciencedaily.com /releases/2009/04/090420182151.htm
You'll note, however, that the fructose group's internal abdominal fat increased more than the sugar group.  Thus, it's not fair to say that fructose is *good* for you... it doesn't cause as much weight gain as sugar, but the weight gain it causes may be worse for certain issues (such as heart disease).

Hold on, notsofasttm.  http://myonesource.com/high-fructose-corn-syrup-a-double-risk


My mom had a corn allergy and hence, an allergy to corn syrup that's put in everything.  Years ago, she called Coca Cola to ask if it was cane sugar or corn syrup in it, since the can at that time just said "sugar".  The technician she talked to went on to explain there really was no difference between cane sugar and corn syrup.  My mom asked him, "At what point does corn stop being corn?"  He had no answer.
 
2014-06-04 04:47:12 PM  

WalMartian: Cold_Sassy: reillan: Biv: reillan: can we please, please just have a federal ban on added sugars.

If it was sugar we'd be in good shape.  It's high fructose corn syrup that is killing us.

Actually, that's not true.  Fructose is fructose.  It's chemically identical whether you get it from HFCS or sugar.

In fact, fructose may be *better* than sugar, as sugar contains both glucose and fructose, and part of fructose's function relates to glucose.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/4/895.full

In this study, sugar caused greater weight gain that fructose:
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37385 http://www.sciencedaily.com /releases/2009/04/090420182151.htm
You'll note, however, that the fructose group's internal abdominal fat increased more than the sugar group.  Thus, it's not fair to say that fructose is *good* for you... it doesn't cause as much weight gain as sugar, but the weight gain it causes may be worse for certain issues (such as heart disease).

Hold on, notsofasttm.  http://myonesource.com/high-fructose-corn-syrup-a-double-risk

My mom had a corn allergy and hence, an allergy to corn syrup that's put in everything.  Years ago, she called Coca Cola to ask if it was cane sugar or corn syrup in it, since the can at that time just said "sugar".  The technician she talked to went on to explain there really was no difference between cane sugar and corn syrup.  My mom asked him, "At what point does corn stop being corn?"  He had no answer.


I'm surprised she got that far with them :) but it really would depend on what, exactly, was in the corn that she was allergic to. hfcs is almost pure fructose, so it shouldn't be able to cause an allergic reaction in anyone
 
2014-06-04 05:21:09 PM  

reillan: WalMartian: Cold_Sassy: reillan: Biv: reillan: can we please, please just have a federal ban on added sugars.

If it was sugar we'd be in good shape.  It's high fructose corn syrup that is killing us.

Actually, that's not true.  Fructose is fructose.  It's chemically identical whether you get it from HFCS or sugar.

In fact, fructose may be *better* than sugar, as sugar contains both glucose and fructose, and part of fructose's function relates to glucose.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/4/895.full

In this study, sugar caused greater weight gain that fructose:
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37385 http://www.sciencedaily.com /releases/2009/04/090420182151.htm
You'll note, however, that the fructose group's internal abdominal fat increased more than the sugar group.  Thus, it's not fair to say that fructose is *good* for you... it doesn't cause as much weight gain as sugar, but the weight gain it causes may be worse for certain issues (such as heart disease).

Hold on, notsofasttm.  http://myonesource.com/high-fructose-corn-syrup-a-double-risk

My mom had a corn allergy and hence, an allergy to corn syrup that's put in everything.  Years ago, she called Coca Cola to ask if it was cane sugar or corn syrup in it, since the can at that time just said "sugar".  The technician she talked to went on to explain there really was no difference between cane sugar and corn syrup.  My mom asked him, "At what point does corn stop being corn?"  He had no answer.

I'm surprised she got that far with them :) but it really would depend on what, exactly, was in the corn that she was allergic to. hfcs is almost pure fructose, so it shouldn't be able to cause an allergic reaction in anyone


As she said, though, "At what point does corn stop being corn?"
 
2014-06-05 02:34:38 AM  

desertfool: Meh. Rippin' Good brand used to have chocolate creme between two chocolate chip cookies. Thankfully, for my waistline, they don't make them anymore.


Those were the best ever.

These days I'm on the double-stuff Oreo cookies.  Regular Oreo cookies are good and all, but once you know double-stuffs exist why would you ever go back?  I tell myself that I'm practicing self-restraint by not going straight to the mega stuffs.

Except on special occasions.
 
2014-06-05 10:30:12 AM  

WalMartian: reillan: WalMartian: Cold_Sassy: reillan: Biv: reillan: can we please, please just have a federal ban on added sugars.

If it was sugar we'd be in good shape.  It's high fructose corn syrup that is killing us.

Actually, that's not true.  Fructose is fructose.  It's chemically identical whether you get it from HFCS or sugar.

In fact, fructose may be *better* than sugar, as sugar contains both glucose and fructose, and part of fructose's function relates to glucose.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/4/895.full

In this study, sugar caused greater weight gain that fructose:
http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37385 http://www.sciencedaily.com /releases/2009/04/090420182151.htm
You'll note, however, that the fructose group's internal abdominal fat increased more than the sugar group.  Thus, it's not fair to say that fructose is *good* for you... it doesn't cause as much weight gain as sugar, but the weight gain it causes may be worse for certain issues (such as heart disease).

Hold on, notsofasttm.  http://myonesource.com/high-fructose-corn-syrup-a-double-risk

My mom had a corn allergy and hence, an allergy to corn syrup that's put in everything.  Years ago, she called Coca Cola to ask if it was cane sugar or corn syrup in it, since the can at that time just said "sugar".  The technician she talked to went on to explain there really was no difference between cane sugar and corn syrup.  My mom asked him, "At what point does corn stop being corn?"  He had no answer.

I'm surprised she got that far with them :) but it really would depend on what, exactly, was in the corn that she was allergic to. hfcs is almost pure fructose, so it shouldn't be able to cause an allergic reaction in anyone

As she said, though, "At what point does corn stop being corn?"


A more appropriate question is "at what point does corn *start* being corn.

You see, we're all just chemicals.  People, plants, doesn't matter, it's just chemicals piled together.  It's possible to extract them and turn them into nothing but chemicals.  If I pee, that pee came from me, it will have some of my DNA carried with it, but is it still me?  No, it's just water with some DNA mixed in.  But that's really all I am, too.

We say "corn", and we know generally what we mean.. but that goes into a very lengthy philosophical discussion that Derrida would love to engage in.  We recognize a few properties of corn that limit the realm of possible corn-ness and allow us to compare it to other things.  Two kernels of corn are not alike - nor are two ears or two stalks or anything else.  But yet, we know that they have to be corn because they share certain similar properties.  It's those properties that allow us to safely identify it and store it away into the "corn" identity that resides in our brains, and to keep it differentiated from other plants that may have similar properties (e.g. not all corn is yellow, but yellow is a property of most corn we eat.  When we see a yellow plant, then, we have to know it has the possibility to be corn.  We then find other criteria.  An ear of corn is roughly the same size as a yellow squash, perhaps a bit larger, but a yellow squash is not bumpy and made up of rows and columns of kernels while corn is, so we can further reduce it based on that, etc..)

It isn't corn she's allergic to - it's one of those properties (or perhaps multiple properties or even multiple properties found in concentration with each other).  You take away any of those properties, and you have the potential to stop calling it "corn."  You take away all of those properties, and you certainly can't call it corn any more...

If I eat it and expel it, use that excrement for compost, use that compost to grow another plant... that plant is not corn, even though it has corn in it.  It's just chemicals.
 
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