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2014-06-03 07:52:21 PM  
farking pathetic.
 
2014-06-03 08:01:05 PM  
Well, I had thought that McCain might possibly have been acting alone.  Now we know it's a party-wide mandate.

GOP, you are unbelievably pathetic.
 
2014-06-03 08:15:13 PM  
If Obama went on national TV tonight and said "Americans should see a qualified physician to ensure colon health, and definitely should NOT replace a colonoscopy by using a hot fireplace poker to cram a furious, possibly rabid badger into their anuses" the nation would be awash in screams and the odor of singed fur
 
2014-06-03 08:18:06 PM  
If Obama went on National TV and said, "Americans should never use a rusty pair of hedge clippers as an anal dildo", that might actually solve a lot of the GOP's problems...
 
2014-06-03 08:20:34 PM  
Ladies and Gentlemen, the undefeated and unbeatable Limbo champions of the world, the GOP

/how low can you go?
 
2014-06-03 08:28:48 PM  
Someone should start a website called the Museum of Deleted Tweets.
 
2014-06-03 08:40:27 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Well, I had thought that McCain might possibly have been acting alone.  Now we know it's a party-wide mandate.

GOP, you are unbelievably pathetic.


You have to admire their political gamesmanship though.  This strategy will most assuredly prevent Obama from being re-elected.
 
2014-06-03 08:45:17 PM  
On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.
 
2014-06-03 08:48:48 PM  

Bloody William: farking pathetic.


#farkingpathetic
 
2014-06-03 08:49:09 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.


So we should have left him there?
 
2014-06-03 08:54:02 PM  

mrshowrules: Benevolent Misanthrope: Well, I had thought that McCain might possibly have been acting alone.  Now we know it's a party-wide mandate.

GOP, you are unbelievably pathetic.

You have to admire their political gamesmanship though.  This strategy will most assuredly prevent Obama from being re-elected.


I'm pretty sure he won't run anyway.  Quitter.
 
2014-06-03 08:54:22 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.

So we should have left him there?


I'm good with that.

Not to be crass, but it's kind of a workplace hazard in that line of work.
cdn.hark.com
 
2014-06-03 08:58:55 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.

So we should have left him there?

I'm good with that.

Not to be crass, but it's kind of a workplace hazard in that line of work.
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For any soldier, or just this one?
 
2014-06-03 09:02:18 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.

So we should have left him there?

I'm good with that.

Not to be crass, but it's kind of a workplace hazard in that line of work.
[cdn.hark.com image 720x480]

For any soldier, or just this one?


The greater mission matters more than any one individual soldier. So "any soldier" with consideration for circumstances and mission impact.
 
2014-06-03 09:04:15 PM  
Obama trolls the right again. By letting the bad guys go for a Muslim deserter, he wins.
 
2014-06-03 09:07:08 PM  
Old ass out of touch ignorant Republicans don't understand rule #1 of the Internet: Nothing is truly erased? Teh hell you say!
 
2014-06-03 09:07:55 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.

So we should have left him there?

I'm good with that.

Not to be crass, but it's kind of a workplace hazard in that line of work.
[cdn.hark.com image 720x480]

For any soldier, or just this one?

The greater mission matters more than any one individual soldier. So "any soldier" with consideration for circumstances and mission impact.


Does a prisoner exchange count as "negotiating with terrorists" in this situation?

/maybe even palling around with them?
 
2014-06-03 09:08:55 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The greater mission matters more than any one individual soldier. So "any soldier" with consideration for circumstances and mission impact.


Well, that sounds a little squishy, but it seems like you're saying that if you're in the Army and get captured, well... bye

/great recruiting tool, that
 
2014-06-03 09:10:13 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.


Well, he was supposedly captured nearly as soon as he left, so it might just be AWOL that was prolonged due to circumstances outside of his control.  Still, what's the penalty for that?  A dishonorable discharge, maybe a few months in the brig?  I'm pretty sure it's not being thrown to a pack of terrorists and forgotten about.

If the military wants to court-martial him, they can do that, we were still in the right to bring him back.

Getting rid of five detainees is a good thing.  We'll have to shut down Guantanamo eventually, we might as well get something back for some of them while we can.

When this story first broke there were some jokes around here about 'harhar I wonder how the GOP is going to spin the release of a POW as a mistake by Obama' but honestly, I didn't think they'd actually go there.

This situation is just surreal.  It's farking amazing that one of the two major parties in our government can be counted on to do the absolute most boneheaded assholey thing they can every single chance they get.  If an author wrote a novel whose villain acted like today's GOP that character would be ripped to shreds as being one dimensional an evil for evil's sake.

There's really no rhyme or reason to it anymore, pick any topic, and if there's a stance on it that will make you look like a irredeemable dick, there will be a line of Republicans waiting to step up to that plate.
 
2014-06-03 09:10:28 PM  

Mugato: Old ass out of touch ignorant Republicans don't understand rule #1 of the Internet: Nothing is truly erased? Teh hell you say!


Sometimes deleting objectionable content is the right call even if everybody knows it was there. In this case I probably would have updated the page with an asterisk, but given what you said about nothing truly being deleted, the difference between updating and deleting is negligible.
 
2014-06-03 09:10:32 PM  

SauronWasFramed: Obama trolls the right again. By letting the bad guys go for a Muslim deserter, he wins.


Doesn't weak ass trolling ever get boring for you people?
 
2014-06-03 09:11:45 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: The greater mission matters more than any one individual soldier. So "any soldier" with consideration for circumstances and mission impact.

Well, that sounds a little squishy, but it seems like you're saying that if you're in the Army and get captured, well... bye

/great recruiting tool, that


Right up there with "bad guys trying to kill you" and "insufficient health care when you get home"
 
2014-06-03 09:14:17 PM  
It has not been proven that he is a deserter. He might be, and if he is there should be consequences. But we don't know yet. Merely sneaking off base is not necessarily desertion. It depends on intent. Sneaking off base with the intention to never return is desertion, but if sneaking off base to share some international goodwill with the local girls and then returning is desertion, then we have a hell of a backlog of courts-martial to process. Let's wait until we know before calling for his head.
 
2014-06-03 09:15:35 PM  

serial_crusher: Mugato: Old ass out of touch ignorant Republicans don't understand rule #1 of the Internet: Nothing is truly erased? Teh hell you say!

 but given what you said about nothing truly being deleted, the difference between updating and deleting is negligible.


No, there's a big difference. In both cases the material isn't deleted but "updating" would mean you're changing your stance for political reasons and "deleting" means you're trying to cover up what you said with no understanding that something posted on the net is different than a paper document that can simply be shredded and any secretary involved disappeared.
 
2014-06-03 09:18:22 PM  

revrendjim: It has not been proven that he is a deserter


It's not proven that the cats in Gitmo are "the bad guys" either. You know, that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing, the cornerstone of our judicial system that Bush wiped his ass with 12 years ago.
 
2014-06-03 09:19:45 PM  
If it makes Republicans feel any better, he'll probably be court marshaled.  Probably won't make them happy though, because that's somehow another win for Obama.
 
2014-06-03 09:19:50 PM  

serial_crusher: MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: The greater mission matters more than any one individual soldier. So "any soldier" with consideration for circumstances and mission impact.

Well, that sounds a little squishy, but it seems like you're saying that if you're in the Army and get captured, well... bye

/great recruiting tool, that

Right up there with "bad guys trying to kill you" and "insufficient health care when you get home"


img.fark.net

I've said it before. Anyone who volunteers for military service after the war drums started beating for the Iraq war is either a gullible moron or a raging racist.

It does seem that Bowe finally figured out he'd been a gullible moron and did something about it.
 
2014-06-03 09:20:02 PM  

Mugato: revrendjim: It has not been proven that he is a deserter

It's not proven that the cats in Gitmo are "the bad guys" either. You know, that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing, the cornerstone of our judicial system that Bush wiped his ass with 12 years ago.


That too.
 
2014-06-03 09:31:39 PM  
3 politicians no one has heard of?  Out of the millions of Republicans, they found these three and ran it as if it were a story.

I'm convinced.
 
2014-06-03 09:35:39 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.


1) Are you under the impression that we don't know exactly where these folks we traded him for are going after they drove away?

2) "No one left behind" doesn't mean "no one left behind except the people we didn't like very much".  It's not terrible good for fighting morale if soldiers don't believe their country will come for them if they get into trouble, regardless of their attitude.
 
2014-06-03 09:41:31 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: AverageAmericanGuy: On the one hand you've got a deserter finally coming home to face justice. On the other hand, you've freed a bunch of high-level terrorists to get him back.

Yeah, I can see how expressing glee about this whole thing might be a bit unbecoming.

1) Are you under the impression that we don't know exactly where these folks we traded him for are going after they drove away?

2) "No one left behind" doesn't mean "no one left behind except the people we didn't like very much".  It's not terrible good for fighting morale if soldiers don't believe their country will come for them if they get into trouble, regardless of their attitude.


1. Terrorists gonna terrorize.

2. You'll find I care very little for the morale of soldiers. It's a non-starter, as far as I care.

They signed up to kill people. They don't rank very high on my "let's save their asses" scale. Slightly above child rapists, but below juvenile delinquents and people who toss garbage out their car windows.
 
2014-06-03 09:44:20 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: serial_crusher: MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: The greater mission matters more than any one individual soldier. So "any soldier" with consideration for circumstances and mission impact.

Well, that sounds a little squishy, but it seems like you're saying that if you're in the Army and get captured, well... bye

/great recruiting tool, that

Right up there with "bad guys trying to kill you" and "insufficient health care when you get home"

[img.fark.net image 720x480]

I've said it before. Anyone who volunteers for military service after the war drums started beating for the Iraq war is either a gullible moron or a raging racist.

It does seem that Bowe finally figured out he'd been a gullible moron and did something about it.


I honestly can't see why anyone would volunteer to be Army infantry at all.  They're always the ones stuck out in harm's way, in poor conditions, for long amounts of time.

Why choose that when you could sign up for the Air Force and maybe get a nice gig flying drones from an office in Nevada, flying or loading C-5s out of Dover, or even the Navy where you'll be on a ship hundreds of miles from where the shooting is?
 
2014-06-03 09:48:37 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Why choose that when you could sign up for the Air Force and maybe get a nice gig flying drones from an office in Nevada, flying or loading C-5s out of Dover, or even the Navy where you'll be on a ship hundreds of miles from where the shooting is?


Isn't all that based on intelligence/aptitude tests?
 
2014-06-03 09:50:02 PM  
Oh my gosh, they're deleting tweets? Those MONSTERS! We must stop them before they take selfies with hashtag signs in their hands!

/ I don't use twitter; mainly, because the word for one who tweets would have to be twit.
 
2014-06-03 09:50:10 PM  

Mugato: SauronWasFramed: Obama trolls the right again. By letting the bad guys go for a Muslim deserter, he wins.

Doesn't weak ass trolling ever get boring for you people?




You people?

You seem to ignore (or not realize) the bad guys can attack us and kill us some more. But things like the deaths of Americans don't bother the left. They ignore the dead bodies that resulted from the fast and furious gun smipuggling in Mexico and they ignored the cries for help in Libya. Yep, there is one thing the left does well. They ignore the number people that die because of Obama's poor decisions,.

And yet, Obama trolled the right by lying about the release, the timing of the release, who was traded, the failure to follow the law requiring congressional notification. Ha ha ha and yucks abound because he pulled another fast one that causes the right to piss in their wheaties.

Boring? No, it's sad......sad because it is reality....the reality of the inept and corrupt.
 
2014-06-03 09:50:26 PM  

Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: Why choose that when you could sign up for the Air Force and maybe get a nice gig flying drones from an office in Nevada, flying or loading C-5s out of Dover, or even the Navy where you'll be on a ship hundreds of miles from where the shooting is?

Isn't all that based on intelligence/aptitude tests?


"Gullible moron"

And now we have come full circle.
 
2014-06-03 09:50:31 PM  
They broke the cardinal rule - Never tweet before checking Drudge
i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-03 09:51:51 PM  

SauronWasFramed: But things like the deaths of Americans don't bother the left.


I really hope you're kidding.
 
2014-06-03 09:52:02 PM  

Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: Why choose that when you could sign up for the Air Force and maybe get a nice gig flying drones from an office in Nevada, flying or loading C-5s out of Dover, or even the Navy where you'll be on a ship hundreds of miles from where the shooting is?

Isn't all that based on intelligence/aptitude tests?


I'm sure some positions within each service are based on those, but if you go to a Navy or Air Force recruiter you aren't going to end up as Army Infantry as far as I know, and your chances of being camped out on the front lines as a member of the Air Force or Navy are much slimmer than as a member of the Army.
 
2014-06-03 09:52:09 PM  
Overzealous staffer strikes again.
 
2014-06-03 09:53:04 PM  

SauronWasFramed: Mugato: SauronWasFramed: Obama trolls the right again. By letting the bad guys go for a Muslim deserter, he wins.

Doesn't weak ass trolling ever get boring for you people?

You people?

You seem to ignore (or not realize) the bad guys can attack us and kill us some more. But things like the deaths of Americans don't bother the left. They ignore the dead bodies that resulted from the fast and furious gun smipuggling in Mexico and they ignored the cries for help in Libya. Yep, there is one thing the left does well. They ignore the number people that die because of Obama's poor decisions,.

And yet, Obama trolled the right by lying about the release, the timing of the release, who was traded, the failure to follow the law requiring congressional notification. Ha ha ha and yucks abound because he pulled another fast one that causes the right to piss in their wheaties.

Boring? No, it's sad......sad because it is reality....the reality of the inept and corrupt.


*golfclap*
 
2014-06-03 09:54:41 PM  

Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: Why choose that when you could sign up for the Air Force and maybe get a nice gig flying drones from an office in Nevada, flying or loading C-5s out of Dover, or even the Navy where you'll be on a ship hundreds of miles from where the shooting is?

Isn't all that based on intelligence/aptitude tests?


How I understand it is; anybody can sign up for anything. For example: a near-sighted guy could sign up for the Army sniper program. But, if that person screws up, the Army can reassign that person where ever the Army wants. I'm not sure if that applies across the services.

I'm relatively sure that if you sign with the Navy; you can't get put into the Army. But, I've never served and I'm not a rocket surgeon.
 
2014-06-03 09:54:44 PM  
It's fitting that this has come to a head like this over an alleged "deserter."  It underscores that we, as a people, will go to great lengths to retrieve one of our own at enormous cost regardless of circumstance.

...and that the Jesus Party will judge whether people are worthy of what comes with being an American sent to the ends of the earth in our nation's name.

We must keep the faith for our own even if they themselves stray because We are better.
 
2014-06-03 10:04:01 PM  

iheartscotch: Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: Why choose that when you could sign up for the Air Force and maybe get a nice gig flying drones from an office in Nevada, flying or loading C-5s out of Dover, or even the Navy where you'll be on a ship hundreds of miles from where the shooting is?

Isn't all that based on intelligence/aptitude tests?

How I understand it is; anybody can sign up for anything. For example: a near-sighted guy could sign up for the Army sniper program. But, if that person screws up, the Army can reassign that person where ever the Army wants. I'm not sure if that applies across the services.

I'm relatively sure that if you sign with the Navy; you can't get put into the Army. But, I've never served and I'm not a rocket surgeon.


No. You take this aptitude test, the ASVAB, and then they tell you what your options are, with the understanding that your choice is not a guarantee. For some people the only choices involve sleeping in mud.
 
2014-06-03 10:08:45 PM  
The names of the 5 at Guantanamo had been circulated for at least a year as targets of a potential swap.  There have been rumors surrounding Bergdahl's disappearance from the base and subsequent capture since it happened, and a military investigation into the matter didn't seem to find enough evidence to conduct a court martial in absentia.  Before this weekend, there was little to no uproar over either of those things.  For a Congressman of all people to say either of those are a surprise are either A) being willfully ignorant or b) so out of touch they shouldn't be elected to a student council.
 
2014-06-03 10:13:20 PM  
This piece of shiat popped up in my FB feed today....

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2014-06-03 10:14:30 PM  

serial_crusher: MaudlinMutantMollusk: AverageAmericanGuy: The greater mission matters more than any one individual soldier. So "any soldier" with consideration for circumstances and mission impact.

Well, that sounds a little squishy, but it seems like you're saying that if you're in the Army and get captured, well... bye

/great recruiting tool, that

Right up there with "bad guys trying to kill you" and "insufficient health care when you get home"


Or your own guys.  *sigh*

[PatTillman.jpg]
 
2014-06-03 10:14:56 PM  

ggowins: The names of the 5 at Guantanamo had been circulated for at least a year as targets of a potential swap.  There have been rumors surrounding Bergdahl's disappearance from the base and subsequent capture since it happened, and a military investigation into the matter didn't seem to find enough evidence to conduct a court martial in absentia.  Before this weekend, there was little to no uproar over either of those things.  For a Congressman of all people to say either of those are a surprise are either A) being willfully ignorant or b) so out of touch they shouldn't be elected to a student council.


Feinstein has her ample bloomers all bunched up, too, control freak that she is

/I do wish someone would seriously challenge her next election
//just not a Republican
 
2014-06-03 10:14:59 PM  

revrendjim: iheartscotch: Mugato: TuteTibiImperes: Why choose that when you could sign up for the Air Force and maybe get a nice gig flying drones from an office in Nevada, flying or loading C-5s out of Dover, or even the Navy where you'll be on a ship hundreds of miles from where the shooting is?

Isn't all that based on intelligence/aptitude tests?

How I understand it is; anybody can sign up for anything. For example: a near-sighted guy could sign up for the Army sniper program. But, if that person screws up, the Army can reassign that person where ever the Army wants. I'm not sure if that applies across the services.

I'm relatively sure that if you sign with the Navy; you can't get put into the Army. But, I've never served and I'm not a rocket surgeon.

No. You take this aptitude test, the ASVAB, and then they tell you what your options are, with the understanding that your choice is not a guarantee. For some people the only choices involve sleeping in mud.


I never understood this entirely until I learned that people actually study for the ASVAB.  It never occurred to me that such a thing would ever be necessary.  We had a morning in high school (or half a day or something) where we all took the ASVAB and everyone I knew scored in the 95th percentile or higher (none of whom went into the service) without preparation.
 
2014-06-03 10:16:06 PM  

Litterbox: This piece of shiat popped up in my FB feed today....

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You poor, delicate snowflake. How terrible and discomforting that must have been for you!
 
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