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(US Naval Institute)   Where did the commander of the Navy's Blue Angels allow his pilots to keep their porn stash? In the cockpit, of course   (news.usni.org) divider line 51
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2014-06-03 04:33:48 PM
For female pilots, they call it the Box Office.
 
2014-06-03 05:11:55 PM
Well, they do need to know how to handle the stick in order to pull off their stunts.

/try the veal
//ducks and runs
 
2014-06-03 06:29:00 PM
Not much to go on in the article; sounds like he was guilty of being male in a PC environment.
 
2014-06-03 06:30:50 PM
I call foul.
I looked, and there isn't a single pornstache: None of the pilots has facial hair.
 
2014-06-03 06:30:51 PM
If they kept it in the afterburners, it would flame out.
 
2014-06-03 06:31:46 PM
was found guilty during an admiral's mast hearing

Both hands on the stick now.
 
2014-06-03 06:39:59 PM
You know what, lighten the hell up with the hazing. If you are a grown man who has risen to the elite of the elite of a god damn fighter program, you can take a paddle to the ass or whatever without walking away emotionally scarred.
 
2014-06-03 06:41:49 PM

Mirandized: Not much to go on in the article; sounds like he was guilty of being male in a PC environment.


This. Goddamn we're raising a bunch of pansies!!
 
2014-06-03 06:51:21 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-03 06:53:25 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-03 06:55:49 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-06-03 07:01:25 PM
It's time to buzz the shaft.
 
2014-06-03 07:03:35 PM
What is this "fun" people keep having?
 
2014-06-03 07:08:01 PM

LineNoise: You know what, lighten the hell up with the hazing. If you are a grown man who has risen to the elite of the elite of a god damn fighter program, you can take a paddle to the ass or whatever without walking away emotionally scarred.


TFA said it was only enlisted people getting/doing the hazing.  So these weren't the super elite pilots, these were the super elite pilot's mechanics.
 
2014-06-03 07:08:46 PM
THIS JUST IN: PILOTS ARE HORNDOGS! FILM AT 11! (in the XXX theater)

Honestly.
 
2014-06-03 07:14:46 PM

fang06554: LineNoise: You know what, lighten the hell up with the hazing. If you are a grown man who has risen to the elite of the elite of a god damn fighter program, you can take a paddle to the ass or whatever without walking away emotionally scarred.

TFA said it was only enlisted people getting/doing the hazing.  So these weren't the super elite pilots, these were the super elite pilot's mechanics.


"The investigation also found hazing was allowed of enlisted members of the team."

It was probably "Gee Greg, this latch is sticking, bring the lube shooter" and then he gets in there and the pilot has his dick out.
 
2014-06-03 07:15:22 PM
It all started with Adm. Zumwalt.
 
2014-06-03 07:42:58 PM
PC crap!
 
2014-06-03 07:44:25 PM
The funniest joke is small-gubmint Republicans ignoring the Blues Angels costing taxpayers about $100 million annually.
 
2014-06-03 07:49:23 PM
Yeah, cause the drawing of male genitalia exists nowhere else in the military:

http://terminallance.com/2010/04/20/terminal-lance-31-shiatter-graffi ti -is-an-art-of-dicks/
http://terminallance.com/2011/05/10/terminal-lance-123-shiatter-graff it i-is-an-art-of-dicks-ii/
http://terminallance.com/2013/02/26/terminal-lance-254-the-clipboard /


Seriously, anyone who has spent any time in the military can tell you that you can't go 15 minutes without seeing male genitalia... whether real or artistically depicted.
 
2014-06-03 07:53:30 PM
I wonder if in today's hyper-sensitive, PC, panties-in-a-bunch environment, this would be considered "creating a hostile environment":

www.pinuppassion.com
 
2014-06-03 08:03:39 PM

vernonFL: For female pilots, they call it the Box Office.


I was drinking water!
 
2014-06-03 08:10:29 PM

Gyrfalcon: THIS JUST IN: PILOTS ARE HORNDOGS! FILM AT 11! (in the XXX theater)

Honestly.


Always figured these guys must lead rock star lives, traveling from town to town as they do and being the star of the show as they are.  The love-a-man-in-a-uniform gals must go crazy.
 
2014-06-03 08:12:19 PM
another sea story...

Twenty years ago, when I was on submarines, we made a three month run.  There was a porn locker in the torpedo room --- a stack of mags about four feet high.  Etiquette was: go to the locker, pick out two or three, go to your rack, fap, and return the mags.
 After three months, I'd been through them all.  I still remember some of the pictures...
 Somebody had loaded a strip poker game on the supply shack computer.  I kept trying to beat the game, but I could never get two of the girls completely naked.  At the end of our run, I used the DOS prompt to go into the directories and display all the picture files.  Thank you, college computing classes.
 
2014-06-03 08:19:25 PM
There was a time that pilots put then porn on the outside.

http://www.anaspides.net/military/air craft_nose_art.html

/A nude woman on the outside of a plane is politically incorrect but having the same plane putting a 500lb bomb through a school is some 3rd world country is fine.
 
2014-06-03 08:42:20 PM

Danger Avoid Death: I wonder if in today's hyper-sensitive, PC, panties-in-a-bunch environment, this would be considered "creating a hostile environment":

[www.pinuppassion.com image 400x532]


Yes it would.  A few months ago, my wife's unit had to do a complete walkthrough of all offices and barracks rooms.  Offices could have no materiel that "might" be considered offensive, and barracks rooms could have nothing visible.  Pretty much, if you were male and had a picture of a woman (even your wife or girlfriend) wearing anything more revealing than Amish clothing, the picture had to go.  One guy was told that the picture of him and his wife at the beach, with his wife in a one piece suit, could be considered "sexual harassment", and it had to go.

Allen262: There was a time that pilots put then porn on the outside.

http://www.anaspides.net/military/air craft_nose_art.html

/A nude woman on the outside of a plane is politically incorrect but having the same plane putting a 500lb bomb through a school is some 3rd world country is fine.


And back when we could paint those things on our planes, we also won the wars we fought.
 
2014-06-03 09:10:07 PM
Is it still considered obscene to write FARK on your airplane?
 
2014-06-03 09:16:24 PM
As a woman, I want to meet these women who find any picture of a scantily clad woman "offensive." Because I don't find anything less (more? adjective use is difficult here) than a full spread shot to be "offensive", and I find it curious that someone who would choose a career in a traditionally male-dominated profession would have such trouble with the idea that men like women's bodies.

I've spent my entire adult life in male-dominated jobs (cop, medic, martial artist), and I've never had any problems with it--men are horny, that's just how it is. If things get out of control, you say (politely, but unequivocally) "Knock it off with the jokes/personal comments/comparisons of body parts to other objects," and generally it does. If not, you then say "Next time, I'm reporting you for sexual harassment," and that stops it. And that was back in 1991 when I did that, and I was the only female on the squad.

But these girls who have to have everything free of women and retire to their fainting couches at the slightest off-color joke...I have to say, you're not really helping. You don't get respect by being a shrinking violet.
 
2014-06-03 09:20:13 PM

Mirandized: Not much to go on in the article; sounds like he was guilty of being male in a PC environment.


Plenty to go on in the article, permitted a penis to be painted on ANYTHING and Knowingly allowed porn to be displayed in squadron spaces, That right there will get you an Admirals mast. Not to mention all of the other plain as farking daylight charges that tell you he needed his ass kicked. Hazing by itself will get you a letter of reprimand, even if he claimed to know nothing and everyone in the command swore he had nothing to do with it, it can still end your career.

If you have been in the military for more than a few days you know all that shait is unacceptable. What the article does not tell you about is all the shait that rolled downhill from him getting busted.
 
2014-06-03 09:29:28 PM

Gyrfalcon: As a woman, I want to meet these women who find any picture of a scantily clad woman "offensive." Because I don't find anything less (more? adjective use is difficult here) than a full spread shot to be "offensive", and I find it curious that someone who would choose a career in a traditionally male-dominated profession would have such trouble with the idea that men like women's bodies.

I've spent my entire adult life in male-dominated jobs (cop, medic, martial artist), and I've never had any problems with it--men are horny, that's just how it is. If things get out of control, you say (politely, but unequivocally) "Knock it off with the jokes/personal comments/comparisons of body parts to other objects," and generally it does. If not, you then say "Next time, I'm reporting you for sexual harassment," and that stops it. And that was back in 1991 when I did that, and I was the only female on the squad.

But these girls who have to have everything free of women and retire to their fainting couches at the slightest off-color joke...I have to say, you're not really helping. You don't get respect by being a shrinking violet.


Kayla?
 
2014-06-03 09:33:13 PM

studebaker hoch: Is it still considered obscene to write FARK on your airplane?



Virgin Air - Yes.    United - Not so much.
 
2014-06-03 09:33:43 PM

Luven: Plenty to go on in the article, permitted a penis to be painted on ANYTHING


I painted a penis on my penis. It's incredibly lifelike.
 
2014-06-03 09:37:45 PM
When we started installing Programmable Controllers on Navy shipboard machinery our guys would occasionally have to troubleshoot/upgrade/modify controller programs. They started noticing that the memory on some of the systems was getting eaten up by something. Further investigation revealed that the Squids were uploading their porn stashes into the controller memories to hide it from the higher ups. Gotta love their resourcefulness...

/ditto the PC comments above.
//seems someone is hellbent on turning the military into Metrosexuals
 
2014-06-03 09:39:59 PM
In one of our control vans, one of the other supervisors had put up a Sports Illustrated swimsuit calendar. Auditor came through and it cost the system points as being "possibly offensive material". the "offender" had to go to a sensitivity class and had a warning from H.R. put in his jacket.


/and you don't want to hear the "sprinkles" story!
 
2014-06-03 09:58:09 PM
No, no, and NO.
Know those big, tough guys that protect us from the bad guys of the world? Well you kinda need to let them vent a little; all that testosterone is tough to deal with 24/7.
Oh wait...you want to take that away and make them play with little Easy Bake Ovens? Yeah...NOT.
 
2014-06-03 10:18:23 PM
He should have just released five well known terrorists back into the wild.

Apparently that's ok to do now.
 
2014-06-03 10:45:48 PM

fastfxr: No, no, and NO.
Know those big, tough guys that protect us from the bad guys of the world? Well you kinda need to let them vent a little; all that testosterone is tough to deal with 24/7.
Oh wait...you want to take that away and make them play with little Easy Bake Ovens? Yeah...NOT.


Wait- which bad guys are our freedoms under threat from again?
 
2014-06-03 10:47:12 PM

Gyrfalcon: As a woman, I want to meet these women who find any picture of a scantily clad woman "offensive." Because I don't find anything less (more? adjective use is difficult here) than a full spread shot to be "offensive", and I find it curious that someone who would choose a career in a traditionally male-dominated profession would have such trouble with the idea that men like women's bodies.

I've spent my entire adult life in male-dominated jobs (cop, medic, martial artist), and I've never had any problems with it--men are horny, that's just how it is. If things get out of control, you say (politely, but unequivocally) "Knock it off with the jokes/personal comments/comparisons of body parts to other objects," and generally it does. If not, you then say "Next time, I'm reporting you for sexual harassment," and that stops it. And that was back in 1991 when I did that, and I was the only female on the squad.

But these girls who have to have everything free of women and retire to their fainting couches at the slightest off-color joke...I have to say, you're not really helping. You don't get respect by being a shrinking violet.


Who said there were any girls?
 
2014-06-03 10:54:20 PM

thehobbes: fastfxr: No, no, and NO.
Know those big, tough guys that protect us from the bad guys of the world? Well you kinda need to let them vent a little; all that testosterone is tough to deal with 24/7.
Oh wait...you want to take that away and make them play with little Easy Bake Ovens? Yeah...NOT.

Wait- which bad guys are our freedoms under threat from again?


The bad guys with boobies. Because boobies are bad.
 
2014-06-03 10:58:46 PM

Luven: Mirandized: Not much to go on in the article; sounds like he was guilty of being male in a PC environment.

Plenty to go on in the article, permitted a penis to be painted on ANYTHING and Knowingly allowed porn to be displayed in squadron spaces, That right there will get you an Admirals mast. Not to mention all of the other plain as farking daylight charges that tell you he needed his ass kicked. Hazing by itself will get you a letter of reprimand, even if he claimed to know nothing and everyone in the command swore he had nothing to do with it, it can still end your career.

If you have been in the military for more than a few days you know all that shait is unacceptable. What the article does not tell you about is all the shait that rolled downhill from him getting busted.


All you need to know about the douche commander is to read to the end and see 'Citadel'.  I had a Captain that made sure every Ensign coming out of that freak show received extra supervision and explained exactly why their little white power/command through intimidation business wasn't welcome.

For those talking about PC and all that other nonsense.  Questions:
1. Were you ever in the military?
2.  If yes, for how long and how did it end?  Did you achieve any significant rank such as commander and understand your roll in leadership on a larger scale?
3. Are you aware that hazing and other forms of abuse such as sexual harassment are not defensible for any number of reasons including they lead to such side effects as minor as favoritism and general disorder and suppression or trust all the way up to sexual assault, racism, etc?
4. If not aware of item 3, have you considered at least it isn't women who are typically the targets of this but rather men?
5. Even if you don't get any of the above, are you aware it is not acceptable to treat others (e.g. gays, handicapped, or just those weaker than you or in a position where they fear your retaliation) in a manner that doesn't treat them as your equal whether that be equal in stature, or equal in the opportunity to be part of the 'it' crowd.
6. Just try inserting some other descriptors as to why these people are treated/hazed like this such as they are gay, black, Jewish, etc and see if it still acceptable to ridicule, haze, abuse, or otherwise treat as inferior in the way you are suggesting it is ok to treat women.
7. Repeating....you presume the women are the offended and affected not the men.  That's a little like people who assume priests that rape boys are homosexual.

/flame on folks.
 
2014-06-03 11:24:15 PM
Those lucky sailors that get to take a break when crossing the Equator,
shake each other's hand, without making offending eye contact, then carry on with the Navy traditions.

/sarcasm font
 
2014-06-03 11:26:39 PM
PC CRAP!

1. Yes I was in the Military.
2. Ten years Navy Air Traffic Controller. E-6, Honorable. Do I understand command, Yes to a degree. But I have never commanded a Carrier.
3. PC Crap. I am a Blue nose Polar Bear and a Shellback. Some of what you call hazing is (or was) tradition. Those in command should not only watch over said traditions but they should encourage them.
4. I can not speak for other services however watching the PC crowd step on 200 years of tradition makes me puke.
5. Try treating EVERYONE equal. Not special.

That's my flame.
 
2014-06-04 12:00:54 AM
There was some early variant of this in the 80's AF. The TIs weren't allowed to use curse words at us in basic. Made them get hilariously creative though.
 
2014-06-04 12:21:46 AM

studebaker hoch: Is it still considered obscene to write FARK on your airplane?


Allen262: There was a time that pilots put then porn on the outside.

http://www.anaspides.net/military/air craft_nose_art.html

/A nude woman on the outside of a plane is politically incorrect but having the same plane putting a 500lb bomb through a school is some 3rd world country is fine.

Your shortwave radio broadcast, I'd like to subcribe to it.


www.doctormacro.com
 
2014-06-04 12:31:12 AM

Danger Avoid Death: I painted a penis on my penis. It's incredibly lifelike.


And even *that* penis is bigger than yours!
 
2014-06-04 06:33:40 AM
Only feminist male-persons who reject the oppressive, exploitative, misogynist patriarchal dialectic that traps us into conforming to the values of the culture of domination should be allowed to do our killing for us.
 
2014-06-04 09:54:43 AM
shoot...a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff!

moviegoings.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-06-04 11:30:02 AM

Gunboat: Twenty years ago, when I was on submarines, we made a three month run.  There was a porn locker in the torpedo room


Forty-nine years ago (yikes!) I made a 72-day patrol aboard Nat Greene, SSBN-636 (bluenose FTW) for a midshipman cruise.  The boat's intercomm system was based on dial phones.  Remember phone dials?  Those little wheels with finger-holes?  They had a central window, about an inch across, that displayed the phone's extension number under a plastic cover.  Aboard Greene, most of the phone dials had beaver shots in the center windows.

As for McWherter, his call-sign is "Stiffy."  I can hear the join-ups: "Stiffy's up!"  The last issue of "The Hook," magazine of the Tailhook Association, has him listed as the president.  Will this be a collector's item?

As for PC today, well....  Last weekend I attended a "roll call" hosted by a USAF fighter squadron.  Being a Navy guy, this was a first for me.  It's a stylized/ritualized affair, with mandatory shots from a spent 20mm shell for infractions of the rules.  Being unfamiliar with the rules, I was one of the first to pound one.  The ritual involves a toast in a loud voice, "To the gomers and all you other farks!"  There were several female pilots in attendance and they had no problems with this, pounding and toasting with everybody else.  One female fighter jock didn't take offense when the "mayor," MC of the event, warned her that the shot she just pounded might hurt her fetus; she gave him the finger.  When the roll was called, the guys pretty much just responded, "Here" or "Yo."  One of the gals replied, "Take me to bed or lose me forever!"   The mayor sneered at somebody's comment and said, "Homo!"  Altogether a lot less PC than some Navy festivities I've attended.

/ Thanks for the hospitality, Cheetah!
// Former Navy fighter pilot.
/// Probably the oldest one there.
 
2014-06-04 06:40:09 PM

stumpwiz: Gunboat: Twenty years ago, when I was on submarines, we made a three month run.  There was a porn locker in the torpedo room

Forty-nine years ago (yikes!) I made a 72-day patrol aboard Nat Greene, SSBN-636 (bluenose FTW) for a midshipman cruise.  The boat's intercomm system was based on dial phones.  Remember phone dials?  Those little wheels with finger-holes?  They had a central window, about an inch across, that displayed the phone's extension number under a plastic cover.  Aboard Greene, most of the phone dials had beaver shots in the center windows.

As for McWherter, his call-sign is "Stiffy."  I can hear the join-ups: "Stiffy's up!"  The last issue of "The Hook," magazine of the Tailhook Association, has him listed as the president.  Will this be a collector's item?

As for PC today, well....  Last weekend I attended a "roll call" hosted by a USAF fighter squadron.  Being a Navy guy, this was a first for me.  It's a stylized/ritualized affair, with mandatory shots from a spent 20mm shell for infractions of the rules.  Being unfamiliar with the rules, I was one of the first to pound one.  The ritual involves a toast in a loud voice, "To the gomers and all you other farks!"  There were several female pilots in attendance and they had no problems with this, pounding and toasting with everybody else.  One female fighter jock didn't take offense when the "mayor," MC of the event, warned her that the shot she just pounded might hurt her fetus; she gave him the finger.  When the roll was called, the guys pretty much just responded, "Here" or "Yo."  One of the gals replied, "Take me to bed or lose me forever!"   The mayor sneered at somebody's comment and said, "Homo!"  Altogether a lot less PC than some Navy festivities I've attended.

/ Thanks for the hospitality, Cheetah!
// Former Navy fighter pilot.
/// Probably the oldest one there.

 
2014-06-04 06:43:45 PM

Nothing To See Here: stumpwiz: Gunboat: Twenty years ago, when I was on submarines, we made a three month run.  There was a porn locker in the torpedo room

Forty-nine years ago (yikes!) I made a 72-day patrol aboard Nat Greene, SSBN-636 (bluenose FTW) for a midshipman cruise.  The boat's intercomm system was based on dial phones.  Remember phone dials?  Those little wheels with finger-holes?  They had a central window, about an inch across, that displayed the phone's extension number under a plastic cover.  Aboard Greene, most of the phone dials had beaver shots in the center windows.

As for McWherter, his call-sign is "Stiffy."  I can hear the join-ups: "Stiffy's up!"  The last issue of "The Hook," magazine of the Tailhook Association, has him listed as the president.  Will this be a collector's item?

As for PC today, well....  Last weekend I attended a "roll call" hosted by a USAF fighter squadron.  Being a Navy guy, this was a first for me.  It's a stylized/ritualized affair, with mandatory shots from a spent 20mm shell for infractions of the rules.  Being unfamiliar with the rules, I was one of the first to pound one.  The ritual involves a toast in a loud voice, "To the gomers and all you other farks!"  There were several female pilots in attendance and they had no problems with this, pounding and toasting with everybody else.  One female fighter jock didn't take offense when the "mayor," MC of the event, warned her that the shot she just pounded might hurt her fetus; she gave him the finger.  When the roll was called, the guys pretty much just responded, "Here" or "Yo."  One of the gals replied, "Take me to bed or lose me forever!"   The mayor sneered at somebody's comment and said, "Homo!"  Altogether a lot less PC than some Navy festivities I've attended.

/ Thanks for the hospitality, Cheetah!
// Former Navy fighter pilot.
/// Probably the oldest one there.



Ah, the days of sending the MidShipmen out in search of batteries for the sound powered phones,
1970 Intrepid CVS 11
 
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