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(Bleacher Report)   Obvious: FIFA should strip Qatar of the 2022 World Cup Fark: And award it to America instead   (bleacherreport.com) divider line 60
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2014-06-03 10:28:25 AM  
That would be pretty cool if they did.

Though, I can see the Brietbart headlines already:  WH buys World Cup hosting rights as a cover to plant EU agents in our schools to forment pro-government attitudes
 
2014-06-03 10:37:55 AM  
They ought to properly reopen the bidding. Don't just award it to the US.
 
2014-06-03 11:20:13 AM  

JerseyTim: They ought to properly reopen the bidding. Don't just award it to the US.


was the US the second choice?  or was there another country?  it should be like the Miss America pageant...
 
2014-06-03 11:52:44 AM  
If America wanted it we should've bribed the most in the first place. It's not like our legislators and anyone associated with any type of governing entity is unfamiliar with bribing and we're supposed to be the wealthiest nation in the world.
 
2014-06-03 01:04:23 PM  
I have a new theory.  I think the USA should just be the permanent backup plan.  Let FIFA award the world cup to any backwards, slave-labor kleptocracy they can find.  When that country eventually craps out, the world cup just gets moved to the US.  after a few of those occur in a row, they will wisen up.
 
2014-06-03 01:05:21 PM  
There are worse ideas.  However, my belief is that FIFA is so profoundly corrupt, they would hold the WC on Mercury if the Mercurians bribed FIFA leadership more than the next best bribers.
 
2014-06-03 01:15:52 PM  
Only if we can rename it "The World Cup of Soccer, brought to you by Bud Light."
 
2014-06-03 01:33:11 PM  
Take the World Cup from Qatar and have to give the bribe money back? Will never happen.
 
2014-06-03 01:35:58 PM  
They get all jihadi over an exposed ankle, is stripping them really the best thing to do?
 
2014-06-03 01:39:08 PM  

IAmRight: If America wanted it we should've bribed the most in the first place. It's not like our legislators and anyone associated with any type of governing entity is unfamiliar with bribing and we're supposed to be the wealthiest nation in the world.


See, we had this "everybody does it" discussion already. Go a few threads down, read it, and then come back.

Thing is FIFA damn well knows the gig in 1994 was well-attended and so perfect that they resented us. Even with the MLS starting a year later, the Yanks aren't going to get much sympathy. But maybe if they applied pressure to the FA with all that "we's got to play it in winter now so you gotta redo your schedule" crap Qatar is trying to do, they might start seeing us as more and more of a viable alternative. Or, alternatively, they can arrange a messy death for Sepp Blatter.
 
2014-06-03 01:39:09 PM  

skinink: Take the World Cup from Qatar and have to give the bribe money back? Will never happen.


Oh, they wouldn't have to give it back, though if I were a FIFA official, I wouldn't underestimate the number and, um, persistence of the "collectors" the Qatari sheiks might send around.
 
2014-06-03 01:41:58 PM  

skinink: Take the World Cup from Qatar and have to give the bribe money back? Will never happen.


Who said they'd give the money back?
 
2014-06-03 01:52:18 PM  
Just make the US the host of all Olympics and World Cups and end this problem.
 
2014-06-03 01:56:40 PM  

Gosling: skinink: Take the World Cup from Qatar and have to give the bribe money back? Will never happen.

Who said they'd give the money back?


FIFA is going to need that cash when Fox sues them. They bid on a summer WC. A fall/winter WC is far less valuable. They might have passed on the bidding process if they knew it might be a winter WC.
 
2014-06-03 02:01:03 PM  

WTF Indeed: Only if we can rename it "The World Cup of Soccer, brought to you by Bud Light."


You say that like ESPN isn't already planning on doing it.
 
2014-06-03 02:03:55 PM  
Oh hell no! Keep your scandalous crap in qatar FIFA! Dont bring you boolshiat here.
 
2014-06-03 02:07:05 PM  
duh.  that's sort of been known for years...
 
2014-06-03 02:22:15 PM  
After the crime and disease ridden WC that Brazil is predicted to become, clean and orderly Qatar might be just the thing.
 
2014-06-03 02:30:21 PM  
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2014-06-03 02:34:27 PM  
As much as I'd like to see this, I'm all out of bribe money.
 
2014-06-03 02:45:27 PM  
Stop trying to take away the greatest summer comedy of all time and let Qatar try to host the world cup. It'll be even better if Israel qualifies too.
 
2014-06-03 02:45:39 PM  
if/when brazil cannot host a decent world cup, leaving doubts about rio in 2016, fifa is best to wise up and reopen the bid.

cant just give it to the usa. gotta make it look like a fair-ish fight.
 
2014-06-03 02:59:34 PM  
They're citing Qatar's human rights violations as part of the rationale for awarding the World Cup to the US?

LOL!

What % of our population is incarcerated due to non-violent 'drug' crimes?  Give the event to Australia/New Zealand.
 
2014-06-03 03:00:30 PM  

rjakobi: Or, alternatively, they can arrange a messy death for Sepp Blatter.


"Sepp Blatter was tragically killed today after falling off the construction equipment he was named for."
 
2014-06-03 03:10:44 PM  

IlGreven: rjakobi: Or, alternatively, they can arrange a messy death for Sepp Blatter.

"Sepp Blatter was tragically killed today after falling off the construction equipment he was named for."


It sounded like ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! *seppbladder*
 
2014-06-03 03:14:51 PM  

MyPoolLeaks: WTF Indeed: Only if we can rename it "The World Cup of Soccer, brought to you by Bud Light."

You say that like ESPN isn't already planning on doing it.


InBev already is the official beer sponsor. You can get a giant can of Bud with the World Cup trophy on the side. Yes, in America.
 
2014-06-03 03:22:24 PM  

PluckYew: They're citing Qatar's human rights violations as part of the rationale for awarding the World Cup to the US?

LOL!

What % of our population is incarcerated due to non-violent 'drug' crimes?  Give the event to Australia/New Zealand.



You might not be paying attention but in the case of Qatar the human rights violations are actually part of the process of preparing to host the games.  So the drug crimes analogy isn't remotely comparable.
 
2014-06-03 03:27:38 PM  

Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: FIFA is going to need that cash when Fox sues them. They bid on a summer WC. A fall/winter WC is far less valuable. They might have passed on the bidding process if they knew it might be a winter WC.


Thing is FIFA itself didn't get the cash, FIFA's voting members got the cash personally or for their home federation.  It's why rather than send the World Cup to the country where FIFA would make the most money (which is inarguably the US at this point) they go to a country that bribes the shiat out of the voting members.  The members could give a rat's ass about FIFA's money.
 
2014-06-03 03:28:36 PM  
Here's a thought for both FIFA  and the IOC:   Maybe only award these things to places with  existing facilities, capable of hosting the events at the time of year you dictate, going  into the bid.  That way, you don't have crises where you're trying to build things last-second, changes mid-stream, the abuse of labor, etc.

That's part of the reason hosting these things in America, England, Germany, etc., leads to good results:  These are countries that already have facilities in place before the bid gets made, such that they could host the event a month after they're selected if they want.  These are also countries that support multiple professional teams/clubs and have athletes competing in pretty much every imaginable sport, such that after the games/tournament, the facilities are, at worst, available for those training for future games and, at best, being used by pro teams and making money.

The lunacy has resulted from picking countries & cities without facilities in place.  This business of building stadiums that cost $Texas to host, at best, two-four weeks of events, without a lasting plan for what to do with them afterwards, is asinine.

But put the World Cup in England, where you can pick from any of the Premiership stadia and have a stellar experience, or in Germany (Bundesliga) or the U.S. (NFL/college football stadia, and maybe even a couple of the nicer MLS facilities) and you're golden.  Same thing with the Olympics -- if a country wants to host, that nation's olympic committee builds the facilities in the city where they want their nation's training to be centered for the next however many years, hosts, then has those training facilities for, say, 30-40 years before they decide to upgrade.  Are there 10 nations that can do that, such that maybe you get on an informal, 40-year rotation?  I think so -- the U.S., Canada, England, Spain, France, Germany, Russia, China, Japan and Australia all come to mind off the top of my head, with maybe a few nordic nations thrown in for the winter and South Africa or India for the summer.

Of course, this assumes intelligence, forward-thinking and a lack of corruption on the part of FIFA and the IOC, which is laughable.
 
2014-06-03 03:29:49 PM  
What World Cup has had the highest attendance in history?

USA, 1994.

3,587,538 for only 52 matches (now there is 64)

Average Attendance was 68,991

and this was when no one REALLY gave a shiat about soccer in the US. Now? It'd be a madhouse.

/saw USA in the Silverdome. Pretty much just remember Lalas
 
2014-06-03 03:58:28 PM  
The daytime temperature in Doha, Qatar is forecast to be higher than the bribe money they paid to get the bid by early next week.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/qa/doha/271669/daily-weather-forecast/ 27 1669?day=6

I'm sure it's a dry 115, though.
 
2014-06-03 04:24:12 PM  
Yes please.  The last one here had the highest attendance of any World Cup in history, so it's not like it's a bad idea.
 
2014-06-03 04:26:21 PM  

beal99: What World Cup has had the highest attendance in history?

USA, 1994.

3,587,538 for only 52 matches (now there is 64)

Average Attendance was 68,991

and this was when no one REALLY gave a shiat about soccer in the US. Now? It'd be a madhouse.

/saw USA in the Silverdome. Pretty much just remember Lalas


I was there too!  Unfortunately didn't get the US game...saw Russia against somebody, I believe.

GCB:  My buddy worked there at the time and nabbed a garbage bag full of W.C. sod.  Still going strong in my parents back yard.
 
2014-06-03 04:47:10 PM  

Krustofsky: The daytime temperature in Doha, Qatar is forecast to be higher than the bribe money they paid to get the bid by early next week.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/qa/doha/271669/daily-weather-forecast/ 27 1669?day=6

I'm sure it's a dry 115, though.


Not likely. It's a little island, so it's going to be muggy and nasty.
 
2014-06-03 05:07:25 PM  
I did watch a 1994 game at the Citrus Bowl, or maybe the Orange Bowl? and the temp was 115 on the field that day.  Pretty brutal in the stands too but apparently the field was much hotter.
 
2014-06-03 05:08:06 PM  

LucklessWonder: FD3AE-RFX


hey luckless i searched for the mini league but it doesnt come up, is there a name for the league i could search for?
 
2014-06-03 05:11:03 PM  

krej55: LucklessWonder: FD3AE-RFX

hey luckless i searched for the mini league but it doesnt come up, is there a name for the league i could search for?


never mind, i caught the dumb.
 
2014-06-03 05:26:05 PM  

Champion of the Sun: I did watch a 1994 game at the Citrus Bowl, or maybe the Orange Bowl? and the temp was 115 on the field that day.  Pretty brutal in the stands too but apparently the field was much hotter.


Yeah, it's not like Phoenix is any better than Qatar in summer. Outdoors. But between indoor stadiums and northern cities, we'll be able to figure it out.
 
2014-06-03 06:09:33 PM  

MugzyBrown: Just make the US the host of all Olympics and World Cups and end this problem.


Even better make the US host NONE of the Olympics or World Cups etc since they are horrendous money sinks.
 
2014-06-03 06:14:40 PM  
In the interest of international fairness, why not give Canada and Mexico a couple of venues as well? It could be:

Boston
New York
DC
Atlanta
Miami
Chicago
Dallas
LA
SF
Seattle
Toronto
Mexico City

Groups could be regionally-limited; eg. you'd rotate within one of the Chicago-Toronto-Boston, New York-DC-Atlanta, Mexico City-Dallas-Miami, LA-SF-Seattle regions. That way you'd only ever really need to make a 2-3 hour plane ride.
 
2014-06-03 07:06:46 PM  

cptrios: In the interest of international fairness, why not give Canada and Mexico a couple of venues as well?


Can't really do that since the host country (or countries) always get an automatic bid.  Can't really give away 3 spots like that (particularly to Canada).
 
2014-06-03 07:15:02 PM  

CujoQuarrel: MugzyBrown: Just make the US the host of all Olympics and World Cups and end this problem.

Even better make the US host NONE of the Olympics or World Cups etc since they are horrendous money sinks.


Voted Smart
 
2014-06-03 08:34:48 PM  

CujoQuarrel: Even better make the US host NONE of the Olympics or World Cups etc since they are horrendous money sinks.


For the most part this is usually true, EXCEPT for the US, and particularly in the case of the World Cup.  Generally the money sink is due to building the venues, training grounds, and for housing of both the athletes and media, and then having no use for the new buildings after the event is over  For the World Cup the US would not have to build, or really even modify any stadiums to host the World Cup, and most of the locations would be able to handle the influx of people.  And in the case of the Olympics, if it was always held in a single location, then the cost of additional buildings would again become moot rather quickly.

That being said, it will never happen.
 
2014-06-03 10:34:52 PM  
How many beatings does it take to kill a dead horse? I don't think I can take 8 more years of this
 
2014-06-03 10:47:12 PM  

cptrios: In the interest of international fairness, why not give Canada and Mexico a couple of venues as well? It could be:

Boston
New York
DC
Atlanta
Miami
Chicago
Dallas
LA
SF
Seattle
Toronto
Mexico City

Groups could be regionally-limited; eg. you'd rotate within one of the Chicago-Toronto-Boston, New York-DC-Atlanta, Mexico City-Dallas-Miami, LA-SF-Seattle regions. That way you'd only ever really need to make a 2-3 hour plane ride.


Holy fark your grasp on geography hurts my brain.  :)

You do Boston-Montreal-Toronto, NYC-Phily-DC, Atlanta-Charlotte-Miami, Dallas-Houston-Mexico City, Chicago-Indy-Columbus, Seattle-Portland-Vancouver.
 
2014-06-04 12:27:38 AM  

Khazar-Khum: Not likely. It's a little island, so it's going to be muggy and nasty.


Given the night time low is 91, yeah that's not very dry air.
 
2014-06-04 01:26:13 AM  
I think the voting pattern per each round pretty much indicates irregularity with the selection committee.

   i.imgur.com
 
2014-06-04 03:27:45 AM  

ElwoodCuse: MyPoolLeaks: WTF Indeed: Only if we can rename it "The World Cup of Soccer, brought to you by Bud Light."

You say that like ESPN isn't already planning on doing it.

InBev already is the official beer sponsor. You can get a giant can of Bud with the World Cup trophy on the side. Yes, in America.


In '06 you could buy only Bud in the stadiums. In freaking Germany.
 
2014-06-04 07:35:23 AM  
No Qatar.

How many dead building those stadiums ?...mostly all foreign indentured servants/slaves. This ain't a hundred years ago building the Panama Canal...it's damn sports stadiums.
 
2014-06-04 08:29:44 AM  

cptrios: In the interest of international fairness, why not give Canada and Mexico a couple of venues as well? It could be:


Mexico doesn't even want to play in Mexico. Last night's friendly was at Soldier Field
 
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