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(Salon)   Did 50 honorary doctorates give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Dr. Angelou"? If you answered no, you're a racist   (salon.com) divider line 548
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2014-06-03 06:37:04 PM  
I don't know dick about poetry.  I know what I like and I know what I don't like.  I'm also smart enough to know that people have different taste in poetry just like everything else.  She was a great poet to some, not to others.  Who farking cares?

The other thing I know is that an honorary doctorate does not mean you can call yourself a doctor or insist on other people calling you a doctor - unless you are a pretentious douche.
 
2014-06-03 06:47:20 PM  

Fafai: ikanreed: Fafai: ikanreed: at least lets me be honest.

What about using "making out" and "give me a reacharound" as insults while decrying the use of "that's gay," does that let you be honest?

"I don't understand metaphorical language"

I get that it's a bit homophobic in nature, what I wrote, but it's not dishonest.  You guys were seriously all over each other.  Praising your own bad ideas when spoken by another.

I understand it. That's so gay, don't be a pussy, etc. Metaphorical language. Remember the thread with the posters around campus about "I don't say 'man up' because women can be strong too" and shiat? Remember what stance you took in that thread? What's the difference between that and this? No consistency. Total hypocrite.

Also I was not a part of that gay orgy upthread. You're getting confused again.


You know what?  I knew exactly what you were doing, here.  I didn't "wander into your trap".  I'm completely familiar with my own damn, attitudes, thank you.  It just highlighted that you think that homosexuality is what's wrong, and not the relentless self-praise you heap upon yourselves.  Could I have had better word choice?  Yes.  Is there a homophobic cultural element to what I said?  Probably.  I'll acknowedge that and double down on the assholes here acknowledging their own bigotry.

You won't.

You won't ever.

lamecomedian: Mitt Romney? Paul Ryan? I seem to recall a lot of "they didn't earn it" during the campaign.



Oh yes, too bad there's no difference between earning a lifetime of achievements(and then having those achievements dragged through the mud by anonymous internet posters without any explicable reason) and being born into fantastic wealth(and then being praised without reason)

Those seem completely comparable, and like an excellent reason to withdraw my arguments.

No wait.  Actually you're a disingenuous ass.  Why do you use arguments you know are bullshiat?
 
2014-06-03 06:57:38 PM  

ikanreed: Fafai: ikanreed: Fafai: ikanreed: at least lets me be honest.

What about using "making out" and "give me a reacharound" as insults while decrying the use of "that's gay," does that let you be honest?

"I don't understand metaphorical language"

I get that it's a bit homophobic in nature, what I wrote, but it's not dishonest.  You guys were seriously all over each other.  Praising your own bad ideas when spoken by another.

I understand it. That's so gay, don't be a pussy, etc. Metaphorical language. Remember the thread with the posters around campus about "I don't say 'man up' because women can be strong too" and shiat? Remember what stance you took in that thread? What's the difference between that and this? No consistency. Total hypocrite.

Also I was not a part of that gay orgy upthread. You're getting confused again.

You know what?  I knew exactly what you were doing, here.  I didn't "wander into your trap".  I'm completely familiar with my own damn, attitudes, thank you.  It just highlighted that you think that homosexuality is what's wrong, and not the relentless self-praise you heap upon yourselves.  Could I have had better word choice?  Yes.  Is there a homophobic cultural element to what I said?  Probably.  I'll acknowedge that and double down on the assholes here acknowledging their own bigotry.

You won't.

You won't ever.

lamecomedian: Mitt Romney? Paul Ryan? I seem to recall a lot of "they didn't earn it" during the campaign.


Oh yes, too bad there's no difference between earning a lifetime of achievements(and then having those achievements dragged through the mud by anonymous internet posters without any explicable reason) and being born into fantastic wealth(and then being praised without reason)

Those seem completely comparable, and like an excellent reason to withdraw my arguments.

No wait.  Actually you're a disingenuous ass.  Why do you use arguments you know are bullshiat?


U mad bro?
 
2014-06-03 06:59:30 PM  

lamecomedian: U mad bro?


[badargument/itrollu.gif]
 
2014-06-03 07:08:53 PM  

ikanreed: I make no bones about my intelligence.  I'm smart.


Are you smarter than the average black man?
 
2014-06-03 07:11:01 PM  

stonicus: Are you smarter than the average black man?


There's no such thing as an average black man, easy mistake to make there.  Is my [specific metric of intelligence] higher than the average of the same among American black men?  Likely, but it obviously depends on how you're measuring what.
 
2014-06-03 07:18:24 PM  

ikanreed: stonicus: Are you smarter than the average black man?

There's no such thing as an average black man, easy mistake to make there.  Is my [specific metric of intelligence] higher than the average of the same among American black men?  Likely, but it obviously depends on how you're measuring what.


You're racist then... it's the only explicable reason for your answer.

Just like if someone doesn't like Maya Aneglou's contributions to the world, the only explicable answer is racism.  Just not liking her work isn't an option, it has to be her race.  I've learned so much from you today.
 
2014-06-03 07:20:40 PM  

ikanreed: Is there a homophobic cultural element to what I said? Probably. I'll acknowedge that


You acknowledge that there's 'probably' some element to it. Such conviction. Earlier it was 'I suppose' it's a 'bit' homophobic (bfd, right?). You're being a lot harder on yourself for that word choice than I would, btw. I'm not calling you homophobic. I'm saying you're a hypocrite. See, because when you do it, it's 'metaphorical.' Or 'maybe' 'a little' bit bad. 'Probably' is the strongest we've got here.

But look at the assuredness and strength of your statements when you chastise someone else for doing a similar thing in a far less overt manner (like actually sticking to the merits of the work of the person in question). Only then does it become 100% undeniable in your mind.

I'm not trying to "trap" you into admitting you were being homophobic (that's your M-O), I was trying to show you you're not being consistent. ...But since you went there of your own accord, do you consider yourself a homophobe to your core? If not, then how can you say these guys are totally racist with the certainty you've displayed here? They weren't being nearly as overt with their racism as you were with homophobia.

/really doesn't think anyone in question has been racist/homophobic, i just want some consistency dammit
//skimmed most of the beginning of the thread so I could be wrong
///three
 
2014-06-03 07:23:33 PM  

stonicus: Just like if someone doesn't like Maya Aneglou's contributions to the world, the only explicable answer is racism.


That's not what they said that made them racist.  But good job.  You sure nailed the thing that wasn't racist.   You've very good at finding not racist things.  Because hey, that's what matters.  Being "not racist" not not being racist.
 
2014-06-03 07:24:27 PM  

stonicus: You're racist then... it's the only explicable reason for your answer.


Yes, let's break down what the racist motivation was.  Or say... what double standard is being adhered to.
 
2014-06-03 07:32:51 PM  

Fafai: ikanreed: Is there a homophobic cultural element to what I said? Probably. I'll acknowedge that

You acknowledge that there's 'probably' some element to it. Such conviction. Earlier it was 'I suppose' it's a 'bit' homophobic (bfd, right?). You're being a lot harder on yourself for that word choice than I would, btw. I'm not calling you homophobic. I'm saying you're a hypocrite. See, because when you do it, it's 'metaphorical.' Or 'maybe' 'a little' bit bad. 'Probably' is the strongest we've got here.

But look at the assuredness and strength of your statements when you chastise someone else for doing a similar thing in a far less overt manner (like actually sticking to the merits of the work of the person in question). Only then does it become 100% undeniable in your mind.

I'm not trying to "trap" you into admitting you were being homophobic (that's your M-O), I was trying to show you you're not being consistent. ...But since you went there of your own accord, do you consider yourself a homophobe to your core? If not, then how can you say these guys are totally racist with the certainty you've displayed here? They weren't being nearly as overt with their racism as you were with homophobia.

/really doesn't think anyone in question has been racist/homophobic, i just want some consistency dammit
//skimmed most of the beginning of the thread so I could be wrong
///three


As long as the alternate explanation they gave for what they were saying made any sense.

It did not.  There wasn't room for "hey maybe they just dislike art" because "do I like Maya Angelou" wasn't the goddamn question.

There wasn't room for "Maybe no one deserves honorary titles" because they affirmatively answered that a white person did.

There wasn't room for another explanation.  There wasn't room for another explanation.  Not within the SPECIFIC STATEMENT ORIGINALLY MADE.  It's not okay.

And the reason I see wiggle room for my statements isn't just that they have to do with sexuality, because I don't judge the sex acts themselves, but rather the metaphorical pride that they represent.  You guys bend over backwards to defend this shiat.


If you didn't care about Maya Angelou:  why did you come into the thread? It's not that subtle.
 
2014-06-03 07:33:36 PM  

ikanreed: lamecomedian: I didn't award myself a degree. I worked hard and wrote a thesis to earn it from an accredited university. Which is more than Maya Angelou ever did for hers.

Yep, here we go.  See... this is the very edges of your racism.  You think Angelou didn't work hard?  What stereotype does that remind you of?



Mexicans?

Totally kidding, btw.
 
2014-06-03 07:36:43 PM  

Snarfangel: Mexicans?


That's the old stereotype, as near as I can tell. It's funny how racial groups instantly jump the gap between "lazy good-for-nothings who don't work" and "much better at that manual labor than [my group](but not so good at the thinking)" the moment people start/stop making money off them, by exploiting them.  It's like an electron jumping up and down orbitals, with no room in between for "Human beings"
 
2014-06-03 07:37:51 PM  

ikanreed: Snarfangel: Mexicans?

That's the old stereotype, as near as I can tell. It's funny how racial groups instantly jump the gap between "lazy good-for-nothings who don't work" and "much better at that manual labor than [my group](but not so good at the thinking)" the moment people start/stop making money off them, by exploiting them.  It's like an electron jumping up and down orbitals, with no room in between for "Human beings"


And it's been like this for racial stereotypes since waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in ancient Greece or Rome.  It probably goes further back, but you know how historical records go.
 
2014-06-03 07:41:44 PM  

ikanreed: CheapEngineer: Perhaps he's just not f*cking impressed by poets. Since no where in his opinion of Maya Angelou was her gender or race mentioned.

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Bullshiat.
Complete bullshiat.
Double bullshiat.  We were talking about how honorary PhDs can allow for someone to be called doctor, when they were white.  Dr. Franklin was brought up as someone who was so accomplished in his field that he got honorary degrees that were respected.

Maya Angelou is 100% a parellel there.  Top of her field.  PhDs in that field as a result.  Now, if fine arts degrees didn't count in the first place, sure.  We'd have a reasonable excuse.  That doesn't work.  They're racist.  And people rushing to defend them make no farking sense.  Is it a "I'm terrified of being called a racist too" thing?  Because I'm not going there.  One specific argument is undoubtedly steeped in racist overtones, regardless of whether race is brought up.

"You must be racist for identifying racism" is the lamest piece of shiat argument anyone has ever used.

I know I'm not getting through to you.  I don't care anymore.


I'm sure this thread is over, but this doesn't support your point. Most folks do not refer to Ben Franklin as Dr Franklin. This thread was the first time I've heard of it.

Maya was hugely influential and important. Her accomplishments stand just fine on their own without needed an honorary title. I feel the same for anyone. I guess I sort of exempt obvious celebrity nom de plumes such as Dr Dre, Dr Demento, Dr Detroit, etc. Those just seem to be in fun, so they don't seem to bug me.
 
2014-06-03 07:43:37 PM  

ikanreed: There wasn't room for "Maybe no one deserves honorary titles" because they affirmatively answered that a white person did.


Did they say that "white poeple" deserve it, or are you assuming based on one of what could be several differences? Is that the only difference between the two? Maya Angelou and Ben Franklin, right? It's already been asked why didn't you jump straight to misogyny, but I don't think you've answered or acknowledged this. Did Ben Franklin get his doctorate for poetry (serious question, I don't know this shiat, I'm not American)?

It would seem you can't say definitively that race is the one factor causing them to say one is deserved while the other isn't because Maya Angelou and Ben Franklin differ in a lot of ways other than race. Unless you can show me where they said "a white person would have deserved it but not her," then this is all conjecture as to their motives on your part.
 
2014-06-03 07:44:37 PM  

stewbert: I'm sure this thread is over, but this doesn't support your point. Most folks do not refer to Ben Franklin as Dr Franklin. This thread was the first time I've heard of it.


But no one goes around and insists you don't.  And the individual in question did support that.  Like I was saying, I'm not trying to generalize to everyone in this thread.  Just the very specific statement that didn't allow for much wiggle room in sense.
 
2014-06-03 07:46:47 PM  

Fafai: Did they say that "white poeple" deserve it, or are you assuming based on one of what could be several differences? Is that the only difference between the two? Maya Angelou and Ben Franklin, right? It's already been asked why didn't you jump straight to misogyny, but I don't think you've answered or acknowledged this. Did Ben Franklin get his doctorate for poetry (serious question, I don't know this shiat, I'm not American)?


I did supply that as an alternate explanation.  But of course, actually demanding I say something I said is easier than having a cogent point.

And please, as to that last sentence, if this is the level of how much you've read what I was replying to, you reallllllllllllly shouldn't have gone so far out of your way to defend it.
 
2014-06-03 07:56:54 PM  

ikanreed: Fafai: Did they say that "white poeple" deserve it, or are you assuming based on one of what could be several differences? Is that the only difference between the two? Maya Angelou and Ben Franklin, right? It's already been asked why didn't you jump straight to misogyny, but I don't think you've answered or acknowledged this. Did Ben Franklin get his doctorate for poetry (serious question, I don't know this shiat, I'm not American)?

I did supply that as an alternate explanation.  But of course, actually demanding I say something I said is easier than having a cogent point.

And please, as to that last sentence, if this is the level of how much you've read what I was replying to, you reallllllllllllly shouldn't have gone so far out of your way to defend it.


Why not? Am I going to hell now? Are you going to tag me in a different colour? My goal was simply to add to the dogpile because it was funny seeing you get all pissed off. I'd say mission accomplished with, this frothing, response, Captain, James T., Kirk:

ikanreed: You know what? I knew exactly what you were doing, here. I didn't "wander into your trap". I'm completely familiar with my own damn, attitudes, thank you. It just highlighted that you think that homosexuality is what's wrong, and not the relentless self-praise you heap upon yourselves. Could I have had better word choice? Yes. Is there a homophobic cultural element to what I said? Probably. I'll acknowedge that and double down on the assholes here acknowledging their own bigotry.

You won't.

You won't ever.

 
2014-06-03 08:14:04 PM  

ikanreed: make no bones about my intelligence. I'm smart.


[citation needed]

Dude, you come off as a moronic blowhard who can't accept that any argument that doesn't fit with your preconceived notion might be in the slightest bit valid. Upon a pretty minor disagreement, you lept straight to personal attacks. Neither of those things are exactly a hallmark of intelligence. Arrogance, yes. Intelligence, no.
 
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2014-06-03 10:16:40 PM  
Say, can someone pass me the popcorn?  This could go on for another few hundred messages!

/ You will all please address me as "Laird pla", since I own land.
// Not in Scotland, necessarily, but if I went there, I would technically still own land.  :)
 
2014-06-03 10:37:10 PM  

I Browse: Facetious_Speciest:

No one is universally-respected. I'm sure textbooks in British primary schools don't paint Attucks as any kind of martyr or hero. Most of his killers were successfully defended in court by a future American president (who ironically included some fun racism as part of their defence).


True. "Universally respected" was a poor choice of phrasing. I'm sure there were some people out there who even hated Mr. Rogers.

I guess what surprised me about the Maya Angelou backlash is that I didn't think people had strong negative feelings about her. She seemed fairly non-controversial to me. But I suppose there's no such thing as that anymore.


Honestly I don't see a "backlash". I just never thought she was spun from solid gold like some people liked to present. The first time I heard of her was when Clinton brought her out every chance he got, and was never impressed. I didn't *hate* it, but was bored with her poetry. I got tired of him and everyone else after him trotting her out like she was the Pope, to bless Important Occasions.

As far as ikanreed is concerned, that makes me an unrepentant racist asshole.

Oh Lord, what will I ever do?
 
2014-06-03 10:40:49 PM  

ikanreed: stonicus: Well, if nobody was taking you seriously before, this will surely get them to believe in you. =)

Oh, I'm sooooooooooooo worried about my reputation here.  Yep.  That's the thing on the line.  You guys are literally slavering all over each other over how not racist you are, and it's really disturbing.


And *every single person here" who doesn't share your opinion of Maya Angelou is a racist bastard, too selfish to admit it.

Or did I miss someone you *haven't* passed Judgement on yet?
 
2014-06-03 11:11:06 PM  

cptjeff: Dude, you come off as a moronic blowhard who can't accept that any argument that doesn't fit with your preconceived notion might be in the slightest bit valid. Upon a pretty minor disagreement, you lept straight to personal attacks. Neither of those things are exactly a hallmark of intelligence. Arrogance, yes. Intelligence, no.


"Personal attacks"
"moronic blowhard"

Let's say, for a moment that personal attacks on dimwitted idiots aren't warranted, and are indicative of low intelligence.  Just hypothetically let idea ride, why the fark would you do it in the same post?
 
2014-06-03 11:24:42 PM  

ikanreed: cptjeff: Dude, you come off as a moronic blowhard who can't accept that any argument that doesn't fit with your preconceived notion might be in the slightest bit valid. Upon a pretty minor disagreement, you lept straight to personal attacks. Neither of those things are exactly a hallmark of intelligence. Arrogance, yes. Intelligence, no.

"Personal attacks"
"moronic blowhard"

Let's say, for a moment that personal attacks on dimwitted idiots aren't warranted, and are indicative of low intelligence.  Just hypothetically let idea ride, why the fark would you do it in the same post?


By looking at this seeming contradiction and considering his post without cherry-picking the words, one could safely deduce that cptjeff seems to have a problem not with personal attacks, but 'leaping straight to' them. In your case he's got, what, 40 something posts to decide on whether personal attacks are warranted? That's a fair sample size I'd say.
 
2014-06-03 11:31:31 PM  
Actually its closer to 60.

Lol.

/seriously do you have someone waiting in bed? This is sad.
 
2014-06-04 12:58:28 AM  

lamecomedian: I didn't award myself a degree. I worked hard and wrote a thesis to earn it from an accredited university. Which is more than Maya Angelou ever did for hers.


I'm not here to jump back into this trainwreck of a thread, but I couldn't let this pass.  This is a pretty ignorant comment, unworthy of someone of your obvious intelligence.  It might even be a little bit racist, but I couldn't say for sure without knowing you better.
 
2014-06-04 01:23:57 AM  

Z-clipped: lamecomedian: I didn't award myself a degree. I worked hard and wrote a thesis to earn it from an accredited university. Which is more than Maya Angelou ever did for hers.

I'm not here to jump back into this trainwreck of a thread, but I couldn't let this pass.  This is a pretty ignorant comment, unworthy of someone of your obvious intelligence.  It might even be a little bit racist, but I couldn't say for sure without knowing you better.


You be amazed at how many Doctorates learn everything there is to know about their chosen field, and yet manage to amass jack-shiat for knowledge in every other possible area.
 
2014-06-04 01:51:45 AM  

Fafai: ikanreed: cptjeff: Dude, you come off as a moronic blowhard who can't accept that any argument that doesn't fit with your preconceived notion might be in the slightest bit valid. Upon a pretty minor disagreement, you lept straight to personal attacks. Neither of those things are exactly a hallmark of intelligence. Arrogance, yes. Intelligence, no.

"Personal attacks"
"moronic blowhard"

Let's say, for a moment that personal attacks on dimwitted idiots aren't warranted, and are indicative of low intelligence.  Just hypothetically let idea ride, why the fark would you do it in the same post?

By looking at this seeming contradiction and considering his post without cherry-picking the words, one could safely deduce that cptjeff seems to have a problem not with personal attacks, but 'leaping straight to' them. In your case he's got, what, 40 something posts to decide on whether personal attacks are warranted? That's a fair sample size I'd say.


It's also a matter of what the purpose of the post is. ikanreed was trying to use personal attacks to argue for the contention that, as a matter of protocol, it is appropriate for recipients of honorary doctorates to use the honorifics granted to those who earn doctorates in an academic setting. In the context of that discussion, it is an ad hominem fallacy, and thus not valid as an argument.

I was arguing in favor of a different contention. Namely, that ikanreed is a tremendously arrogant jackass. In support thereof, I cited evidence- his/her repeated use of a particularly strong character attack with very little evidence in support of that attack's truth, and use of the aforementioned attack to avoid answering substantive points of debate on the contention he/she was debating. The 'arrogant' element is demonstrated by claims of high intelligence while demonstrating a repeated inability to answer substantive rebuttals to his/her contentions. I am not trying to argue for or against the original question over doctorate protocol. Since discussion of ikanreed's character is central to this new contention, discussion of his/her character is relevant.
 
2014-06-04 02:52:06 AM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


It's pretentious for physicians too. The whole concept of titles is nothing but pretension.

We've adopted "doctor" as a synonym for "physician" but we shouldn't confuse the noun for the profession with an honorific title.
 
2014-06-04 06:15:23 AM  
This thread...not exactly a bastion of tolerance now is it?

Some days I really hate Fark. This is one of them.
 
2014-06-04 07:21:26 AM  
Should Ben Franklin get to use the title Dr.?  Yes.  His accomplishments in science exceed or on par with the many other works that were deemed Doctorate worthy.

Should Maya Angelou get to use the title Dr.?  Yes.  Her work in poetry and literature exceed the work of others who were deemed Doctorate worthy.  Also, many a Doctor of Literature, as part of their study, studied Maya Angelou.  Knowledge of her and her body of work was required to be deemed Doctorate worthy.  So being her and actually writing that body of work should count a great deal.

That being said, I still personally hate her poetry.
 
2014-06-04 08:11:43 AM  

advex101: Let's expand this thread.  Does anyone remember when Ed Meese was the US Attorney General and insisted upon being called "General Meese" (and had the protocol rules changed to support this)? Was that wrong?


I thought that was RFK?  It's ridiculous.  More than one Attorney General would be called Attorneys General.

My job title has "General" at the end of it.  Many of my co-workers in my age group call me "General" to be funny, but there supposedly was guy with that title at another state agency who insisted on being called "General".  I've never heard whether anyone actually did.
 
2014-06-04 09:12:50 AM  

Hermione_Granger: This thread...not exactly a bastion of tolerance now is it?

Some days I really hate Fark. This is one of them.


Maybe one day you'll hate it so much you go away forever.

One can only hope...
 
2014-06-04 09:36:25 AM  

stonicus: That being said, I still personally hate her poetry.


And that's fine!  That's good!  Please dislike everything you want to.
 
2014-06-04 11:34:50 AM  

Fafai: Hermione_Granger: This thread...not exactly a bastion of tolerance now is it?

Some days I really hate Fark. This is one of them.

Maybe one day you'll hate it so much you go away forever.

One can only hope...


Yeah, it is a damn shame when racists are offended by fark. We really need to be tolerant of her intolerance.
 
2014-06-04 11:43:27 AM  

stonicus: Should Ben Franklin get to use the title Dr.?  Yes.  His accomplishments in science exceed or on par with the many other works that were deemed Doctorate worthy.

Should Maya Angelou get to use the title Dr.?  Yes.  Her work in poetry and literature exceed the work of others who were deemed Doctorate worthy.  Also, many a Doctor of Literature, as part of their study, studied Maya Angelou.  Knowledge of her and her body of work was required to be deemed Doctorate worthy.  So being her and actually writing that body of work should count a great deal.

That being said, I still personally hate her poetry.


I think neither should use the title. It's a bit insulting to someone who endured the hardships of a doctoral program, IMO.

My grad school program was considering a non-thesis degree. I felt like that would cheapen the degree for those of us who finished a thesis. After a few years, people might assume I didn't write one. I could pass a final exam with little trouble, but I bled on that thesis. It was very hard work for me.
 
2014-06-04 11:44:45 AM  
Some feel her doctorates entitle her to claim the honorific of "Dr". I'd like to be referred to as "Ms." but her doctorates were honorary and I wasn't born with a vagina.

If people don't feel you deserve a title they're not gonna farkin' call you by that title no matter how well reasoned and rational your arguments might be. In their mind you haven't earned it. You don't belong. You're not part of the group. Social identity is both claimed and conferred. If the members of the group feel you don't meet the rules for membership they will not validate your identity or claim to title. They may experience cognitive dissonance and push back, sometimes violently so.

Doctorates such as these honor a person's accomplishments but they're largely ceremonial in nature. They acknowledge the person's body of work and experience without confirming they've met the rigor or requirements necessary for an actual degree. Whether or not that person's experience and subject matter expertise are enough to claim a particular title or standing is, I think, a grey area. It's something that would have to be evaluated on a case by case basis. I'm not familiar enough with Maya Angelou's work nor qualified to make such a determination. I don't think having them automatically gives one the right to a particular title however.
 
2014-06-04 11:47:15 AM  
let me guess, brittney cooper? *checks link* Of course.
 
2014-06-04 12:00:23 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is

pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.


listen here you asshole, i didn't spend 7 years in pretentious school to be called Mr.
 
2014-06-04 12:09:06 PM  
Ikanreed  But I held the exact same opinion as the guy you called a racist, so what's the difference?

That I wasn't paying especially much attention to your opinion, specifically, then.  You're probably racist too, but I don't want to have the same fight twice simultaneously, and prefer not to jump to conclusions, in spite of what conclusions you jumped to about me.



and here I thought you didn't have a sense of humor!
 
2014-06-04 01:28:27 PM  
One of my very favorite things is to make fun of my co-worker who just got his MBA.  He now signs all of his emails Joe Blow, MBA and asked to have it put on his business card.  They told him no.  He was really pissed off.
 
2014-06-04 04:42:00 PM  

Fafai: Hermione_Granger: This thread...not exactly a bastion of tolerance now is it?

Some days I really hate Fark. This is one of them.

Maybe one day you'll hate it so much you go away forever.

One can only hope...


One can only hope that more of you farkers will stop being such pathetic goddamned racists.

There are more good people here than I thought.

But the majority are such a lousy bunch of bigots as to be shameful.

But nope, I'm not leaving, if for no other reason than Fark teaches me a lot about how white people really think and gives me strategies for dealing with farked up racism in the real world. I come here because it's beneficial to me. If I just happen to piss off a few racist farks then so much the farking better.
 
2014-06-04 04:56:14 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Fark teaches me a lot about how white people really think


So long as you apply that to all white people as a whole. You wouldn't want to discriminate or anything.
 
2014-06-04 05:41:47 PM  

Fafai: Hermione_Granger: Fark teaches me a lot about how white people really think

So long as you apply that to all white people as a whole. You wouldn't want to discriminate or anything.



Applying it to all white people would be indiscriminate discrimination.
 
2014-06-04 05:47:20 PM  
If you'll excuse me, I'm off to Worldstarhiphop to learn what black people are really like.
 
2014-06-04 09:31:07 PM  

Fafai: Hermione_Granger: Fark teaches me a lot about how white people really think

So long as you apply that to all white people as a whole. You wouldn't want to discriminate or anything.



So long as you know that there is rarely a need for me not to.
 
2014-06-04 10:49:29 PM  

Hermione_Granger: Fafai: Hermione_Granger: Fark teaches me a lot about how white people really think

So long as you apply that to all white people as a whole. You wouldn't want to discriminate or anything.


So long as you know that there is rarely a need for me not to.


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