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(Salon)   Did 50 honorary doctorates give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Dr. Angelou"? If you answered no, you're a racist   (salon.com) divider line 548
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2014-06-03 12:32:11 PM  
she truly was a genius...

"We had him" (written for the Michael Jackson tribute)

Beloveds, now we know that we know nothing, now that our bright and shining star can slip away from our fingertips like a puff of summer wind.
Without notice, our dear love can escape our doting embrace. Sing our songs among the stars and walk our dances across the face of the moon.
In the instant that Michael is gone, we know nothing. No clocks can tell time. No oceans can rush our tides with the abrupt absence of our treasure.
Though we are many, each of us is achingly alone, piercingly alone.
Only when we confess our confusion can we remember that he was a gift to us and we did have him.
He came to us from the creator, trailing creativity in abundance.
Despite the anguish, his life was sheathed in mother love, family love, and survived and did more than that.
He thrived with passion and compassion, humor and style. We had him whether we know who he was or did not know, he was ours and we were his.
We had him, beautiful, delighting our eyes.
His hat, aslant over his brow, and took a pose on his toes for all of us.
And we laughed and stomped our feet for him.
We were enchanted with his passion because he held nothing. He gave us all he had been given.
Today in Tokyo, beneath the Eiffel Tower, in Ghana's Black Star Square.
In Johannesburg and Pittsburgh, in Birmingham, Alabama, and Birmingham, England
We are missing Michael.
But we do know we had him, and we are the world.
 
2014-06-03 12:32:14 PM  

actualhuman: chaddsfarkprefect: Try calling the restaurant guy in whites a cook, talk about misplaced sensitivity.

Seriously? Unless you're running the kitchen (and not just the line) you're not a chef.

/And we only call our chef by title when there are other people around


I'd take it a little further, as someone that was previously a head cook at a steakhouse, I'd just tell people I was a cook, if they asked more specifically what role, I'd say head cook, but never chef.  That always seemed more reserved for someone that actually has authority to create a menu of unique dishes and does it well, typically with culinary school training.
 
2014-06-03 12:33:06 PM  

doubled99: Farking spot on! Thanks for the confirmation.

Yeah, I'm so worried about judgement from your psychicness.  Please don't destroy my mind with your devesting mental powers.

The fun part is you will actually stew half the day over this and other random comments. Enjoy your day!


"ha ha, I've got him, his responding to my post means that he's emotional about it.  Now I don't have to worry about the fact that my own statements are among the most ill-informed in the world"
--a genius.
 
2014-06-03 12:33:19 PM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


As a collegue of mine noted, when a general practice physician and collegue insisted he not refer to him by his first name but use the appalletion "Dr.":

"My PhD is 9 years of post-graduate research in which one valuably contributes to the expansion of human knowledge and demonstrated mastery of a field. Your MD is a glorified master's degree with an extended practicum. I am a rocket science, and you're not a brain surgeon. If you want to get uppity, I'm 'Dr.' you're 'Ted'."
 
2014-06-03 12:36:31 PM  

sigdiamond2000: If you think an honorary doctorate doesn't give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Doctor," that's a perfectly legitimate opinion.

If your first reaction to Maya Angelou's death is pointing out that she's "not a real doctor," you're probably a racist.


Thread over. Why the fark are there over 170 comments?
 
2014-06-03 12:37:07 PM  

RexTalionis: Ben Franklin was styled as Dr. Franklin after he received an honorary doctorate from the College of William and Mary. Of course, you recall, Franklin had little formal secondary education and was primarily a printer's apprentice during his adolescence. He was given the honorary doctorate because of his contributions to science and learning. Is Maya Angelou really that different? Is she somehow not worthy of the same honor for her contributions to literature?


I think inventing the lightning rod/bifocals/a pretty rad stove, mapping the gulf stream, etc. outweighs writing Hallmark cards.
 
2014-06-03 12:37:51 PM  

nickdaisy: Maya Angelou was incredibly overrated and didn't deserve 1/100th the attention she received.


I feel the same way about Shakespeare...
 
2014-06-03 12:38:05 PM  

untaken_name: Snarfangel: I think only philosophers should be granted Ph.D's.

What *is* a philosopher, really?


oi58.tinypic.com

/ depends on the week
 
2014-06-03 12:39:30 PM  
lamecomedian:
I think inventing the lightning rod/bifocals/a pretty rad stove, mapping the gulf stream, etc. outweighs writing Hallmark cards.

So, are you simply ignorant of her contribution to the body of liturature of the 20th century, the field in which she has been honored? Or are you that dismissive of all accomplished black women?

Her achievements in the context of her field are substantial.
 
2014-06-03 12:40:28 PM  

untaken_name: Snarfangel: I think only philosophers should be granted Ph.D's.

What *is* a philosopher, really?


zoerae.files.wordpress.com
What a man with a Doctorate in Philosophy might look like...
 
2014-06-03 12:40:34 PM  
I never would've imagined that Maya Angelou was such a divisive figure.
 
2014-06-03 12:40:46 PM  
Unless you can prescribe meds or I am in a professional relationship with you, you ain't a "Dr.".
 
2014-06-03 12:41:10 PM  
TL;DR all of these comments.  Just came in to point out that I'm also a honorary Doctor.  Rev. Dr. to be precise thanks to the Universal Life Church.  My wife is also a Doctor, but she did it the hard way by going to Doctorat school for about 7 years...sucker!
 
2014-06-03 12:41:47 PM  

Kope: lamecomedian:
I think inventing the lightning rod/bifocals/a pretty rad stove, mapping the gulf stream, etc. outweighs writing Hallmark cards.

So, are you simply ignorant of her contribution to the body of liturature of the 20th century, the field in which she has been honored? Or are you that dismissive of all accomplished black women?

Her achievements in the context of her field are substantial.


And still outweighed by the utility of a device that keeps lightning storms from burning your house down.

/I'm very accomplished in the field of internet snark, but I don't expect to get a title for it.
 
2014-06-03 12:41:52 PM  

I Browse: I never would've imagined that Maya Angelou was such a divisive figure.


Really? If you think about it, can you name an accomplished black person who is not divisive in American culture? Even Bill Cosby has his haters.
 
2014-06-03 12:42:29 PM  

lamecomedian: I think inventing the lightning rod/bifocals/a pretty rad stove, mapping the gulf stream, etc. outweighs writing Hallmark cards.


And here's the evidence of racism.  Maya Angelou's accomplishments reduced to "greeting cards".  That's why we know.  It's not the details of the tradition, it's how how far out of your way you go to minimize the accomplishments of any black woman.

"Oh her accomplishments were in the fine arts, which we all know no one can get a regular PhD in."


You personally are racist.  This is not some ad hominem.  This is the inevitable conclusion of applying your argument as intended.  And finding what actually differs.  You are racist.  Seriously.  You are.  It'd be nice if you'd stop.  But the accusation is only going to make you defensive.  You're going to argue.  We're going to argue.  And at the end of the day, there's no non-racist justification for your line of argument(except the misogynist one).

Please rethink your racism(you won't).
 
2014-06-03 12:42:55 PM  

Kope: I Browse: I never would've imagined that Maya Angelou was such a divisive figure.

Really? If you think about it, can you name an accomplished black person who is not divisive in American culture?


Will Smith?

Morgan Freeman?

James Earl Jones?

That dude who did all the cool stuff with peanuts?
 
2014-06-03 12:43:39 PM  

stonicus: Marcus Aurelius: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

^ This.  If you have a PhD and insist on being called "doctor", you are most likely a complete moron that wishes they were actually intelligent.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 232x300]
I bet you absolutely hate this guy.
(He's only an honorary Kentucky Colonel)


Haha, good reference!  For the sake of argument, I don't think he was ever trying to pass himself off as an actual, real military Colonel, nor were most people ever led to believe it was anything more than a honorary title for largely marketing purposes of playing a character.  For the sake of the article, I'd also point out that you probably wouldn't have some slacktivist at Salon calling you a racist for not using his honorary title.
 
2014-06-03 12:43:46 PM  
The title Doctor means a lot to MDs and to people who don't know any MDs.
 
2014-06-03 12:44:09 PM  
lamecomedian:
And still outweighed by the utility of a device that keeps lightning storms from burning your house down.

/I'm very accomplished in the field of internet snark, but I don't expect to get a title for it.


I would politely suggest that utility is not the only measure of accomplishment. Watson and Crick's discovery of the structure of DNA is, by itself alone, utterly without utility. Does that make their publication less important to their field.
 
2014-06-03 12:45:05 PM  

Kope: I Browse: I never would've imagined that Maya Angelou was such a divisive figure.

Really? If you think about it, can you name an accomplished black person who is not divisive in American culture? Even Bill Cosby has his haters.


I've noted that for most black celebrity articles, the comments always contain someone yammering about how "classless" said person is in a situation that doesn't appear to warrant it.
 
2014-06-03 12:46:03 PM  
For that matter, who does Colonel Sanders think he is?  He was never a military Colonel.  He was just given an honorary "Kentucky Colonel" title that were handed out like candy back then.
 
2014-06-03 12:46:17 PM  
ikanreed

And here's the evidence of racism. Maya Angelou's accomplishments reduced to "greeting cards". That's why we know. It's not the details of the tradition, it's how how far out of your way you go to minimize the accomplishments of any black woman.

Perhaps he simply values utilitarian innovations over art. That's neither racist, nor misogynist.
 
2014-06-03 12:46:39 PM  

lamecomedian: Kope: I Browse: I never would've imagined that Maya Angelou was such a divisive figure.

Really? If you think about it, can you name an accomplished black person who is not divisive in American culture?

Will Smith?


Smith has some interesting haters: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/27054349.html
It doesn't take great google fu to find similiarly ludicrous things about any famous black person.
 
2014-06-03 12:48:16 PM  

debug: sigdiamond2000: If your first reaction to Maya Angelou's death is pointing out that she's "not a real doctor," you're probably a racist.

If she was white and you pointed it out, would you still be a racist?


Nope, just a garden-variety asshole.

\racists are a special subset of assholes
 
2014-06-03 12:48:19 PM  

lamecomedian: Will Smith?

Morgan Freeman?

James Earl Jones?


3 well paid hollywood actors?  More famous doesn't mean less contentious.
Seriously?  Compared to Maya-farking-Angelou?

Also: google autocomplete tells me people think that:
Will Smith is a jerk and homosexual
Morgan Freeman is a asshole and a racist
James Earl Jones is a republican.
 
2014-06-03 12:48:23 PM  
Kope:

Really? If you think about it, can you name an accomplished black person who is not divisive in American culture? Even Bill Cosby has his haters.


Al Roker is always my go-to answer. He's about as non-controversial as you can be.
 
2014-06-03 12:48:47 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: ikanreed

And here's the evidence of racism. Maya Angelou's accomplishments reduced to "greeting cards". That's why we know. It's not the details of the tradition, it's how how far out of your way you go to minimize the accomplishments of any black woman.

Perhaps he simply values utilitarian innovations over art. That's neither racist, nor misogynist.


True - that's merely ignorant.
 
2014-06-03 12:49:56 PM  

ikanreed: lamecomedian: I think inventing the lightning rod/bifocals/a pretty rad stove, mapping the gulf stream, etc. outweighs writing Hallmark cards.

And here's the evidence of racism.  Maya Angelou's accomplishments reduced to "greeting cards".  That's why we know.  It's not the details of the tradition, it's how how far out of your way you go to minimize the accomplishments of any black woman.

"Oh her accomplishments were in the fine arts, which we all know no one can get a regular PhD in."


You personally are racist.  This is not some ad hominem.  This is the inevitable conclusion of applying your argument as intended.  And finding what actually differs.  You are racist.  Seriously.  You are.  It'd be nice if you'd stop.  But the accusation is only going to make you defensive.  You're going to argue.  We're going to argue.  And at the end of the day, there's no non-racist justification for your line of argument(except the misogynist one).

Please rethink your racism(you won't).


Racist?  Misogynist?  I don't see how in the hell you get either of those from that.  All I get from his words is that he doesn't place much value on poetry or literature.  I also agree that some of Benjamin Franklin's inventions exceed the work of any poem.  Even poems written by white males.  Am I also a misogynist racist?
 
2014-06-03 12:50:09 PM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


On the contrary, using the title "doctor" just because it's your job is pretentious.
 
2014-06-03 12:50:27 PM  

ikanreed: lamecomedian: I think inventing the lightning rod/bifocals/a pretty rad stove, mapping the gulf stream, etc. outweighs writing Hallmark cards.

And here's the evidence of racism.  Maya Angelou's accomplishments reduced to "greeting cards".  That's why we know.  It's not the details of the tradition, it's how how far out of your way you go to minimize the accomplishments of any black woman.

"Oh her accomplishments were in the fine arts, which we all know no one can get a regular PhD in."


Man, you suck at this.  It's a denigration of the humanities as being somehow inferior to the hard sciences.  And as someone who's written what - about four of five snarky sentences so far? - I haven't had to go very far out of my way to minimize her accomplishments.  Her poetry is weak, treacly, greeting-card caliber pap.

You personally are racist.  This is not some ad hominem.  This is the inevitable conclusion of applying your argument as intended.  And finding what actually differs.  You are racist.  Seriously.  You are.  It'd be nice if you'd stop.  But the accusation is only going to make you defensive.  You're going to argue.  We're going to argue.  And at the end of the day, there's no non-racist justification for your line of argument(except the misogynist one).

Please rethink your racism(you won't).


I wrote my MA thesis on novels of racial passing and how they evolved based upon US legal classifications of race (as seen in immigration laws and census categories) and  I spent four years teaching at a largely black, low-income high school.  

Please go on about how I'm a virulent racist.
 
2014-06-03 12:50:43 PM  

sigdiamond2000: If you think an honorary doctorate doesn't give Maya Angelou the right to call herself "Doctor," that's a perfectly legitimate opinion.

If your first reaction to Maya Angelou's death is pointing out that she's "not a real doctor," you're probably a racist.


What if I point out that she's a terrible poet?
 
2014-06-03 12:50:50 PM  

Facetious_Speciest: Perhaps he simply values utilitarian innovations over art. That's neither racist, nor misogynist.


Irrelevant, because we're talking about PhDs, which are granted for art too.  There's no paralell to that.  She's perhaps one of history's most famous poets.  Being reduced to "greeting cards" is explicitly about this guys' racism.
 
2014-06-03 12:52:23 PM  

I Browse: Al Roker


http://kbasin.blogspot.com/2007/05/roker-isnt-funny-he-is-racist.htm l

Seriously - you can name the most innocuous, nicest, classiest famous, accomplished black person you can, and someone out there is trying to tear them down.
 
2014-06-03 12:52:23 PM  

ikanreed: lamecomedian: I think inventing the lightning rod/bifocals/a pretty rad stove, mapping the gulf stream, etc. outweighs writing Hallmark cards.

And here's the evidence of racism.  Maya Angelou's accomplishments reduced to "greeting cards".  That's why we know.  It's not the details of the tradition, it's how how far out of your way you go to minimize the accomplishments of any black woman.

"Oh her accomplishments were in the fine arts, which we all know no one can get a regular PhD in."


You personally are racist.  This is not some ad hominem.  This is the inevitable conclusion of applying your argument as intended.  And finding what actually differs.  You are racist.  Seriously.  You are.  It'd be nice if you'd stop.  But the accusation is only going to make you defensive.  You're going to argue.  We're going to argue.  And at the end of the day, there's no non-racist justification for your line of argument(except the misogynist one).

Please rethink your racism(you won't).


Perhaps he's just not f*cking impressed by poets. Since no where in his opinion of Maya Angelou was her gender or race mentioned.

static.ddmcdn.com

\hypersensitive, are we?
 
2014-06-03 12:53:24 PM  

Kope: lamecomedian:
And still outweighed by the utility of a device that keeps lightning storms from burning your house down.

/I'm very accomplished in the field of internet snark, but I don't expect to get a title for it.

I would politely suggest that utility is not the only measure of accomplishment. Watson and Crick's discovery of the structure of DNA is, by itself alone, utterly without utility. Does that make their publication less important to their field.


And that is absolutely a fair counterpoint.  But what is "produced" by the humanities is very rarely of little genuine utility, because what can be "built" upon it generally ends up being so much intellectual masturbation (I say this as someone who's been in the field for several years now).

There's a hierarchy of needs.  Not getting my house burned down every time the lightning comes along > any amount of poetry or literary insight.
 
2014-06-03 12:53:56 PM  

stonicus: Racist? Misogynist? I don't see how in the hell you get either of those from that. All I get from his words is that he doesn't place much value on poetry or literature. I also agree that some of Benjamin Franklin's inventions exceed the work of any poem. Even poems written by white males. Am I also a misogynist racist?


This is exactly how I knew it would go.  "No no no, it can't be racism, here's irrelevant point that could mean its' something else"

It's so damned 1 dimensional.
 
2014-06-03 12:54:14 PM  

kindms: stonicus: fireclown: FTFA:"To him and his ridiculousness, I say, "Oppenheimer, be for real." "

Well, the author does have her opponent firmly in the iron grip of logic.

The bottom line is pretty much if you don't actually earn a PhD or MD, you don't rate the honorific doctor.  An honorary doctorate means that the school really likes you, and that you are kinda awesome based on that, but it's not an official PhD/MD.  Angilou is wrong for calling herself Dr Angilou.

/go ahead.  I've been called racist by better looking people than YOU.

But in her field, she probably did more, wrote more, and knew more about poetry and literature than people who just sat in classes.  Her life experience shouldn't be discounted as if it didn't matter.  If it takes X number of hours learning literature to become a Doctor in it, and she has 10 times that amount from actually living it and doing it, then why shouldn't it count?

I have been working in IT for over 15 years. That doesn't make me a network engineer. It is a title given to people who have put in the academic hours and course study. She wasn't a PhD. She had more than enough time to get one. And it probably wouldn't have been all that difficult for her but she didn't put in the work to obtain the PhD. As such she should not have called herself Doctor no matter how much the woman at Salon wants to try to justify it. So Angelou was a jerk about certain things, like being called Dr when she wasn't one. Lots of artists are jerks, doesn't reduce the importance of their art.


Didn't put in the work?  She was teaching and a hell of a lot more published than her peers.  90% of a PHD is jumping through hoops for your PI and doing the background for their own on-going research.  Then you come up with something that they'll give you credit for after making sure they were co-author on enough of your papers.  Granted, they let you co-author on some of theirs so that everyone reaches their publish quota.
 
2014-06-03 12:57:11 PM  

Launch Code: 1. 50 truck driving schools could give someone 50 honorary truck driving school certificates and that person probably wouldn't be able to parallel park a tractor trailer. 2. If you have "doctor" attached your name, honorary or through an overpriced school? you'd better know how to repair broken body parts or you're a fraud. 3. Poetry is stupid. 4. You can be a deemed a racist for disagreeing with an obama idea. The word racist really has zero meaning anymore. 5. Poetry is really dumb!


Frankly, I'm surprised to find that you can actually count to 5.

\I'm just going to assume that a small child helped you with that.
 
2014-06-03 12:57:22 PM  

Kope: lamecomedian: Kope: I Browse: I never would've imagined that Maya Angelou was such a divisive figure.

Really? If you think about it, can you name an accomplished black person who is not divisive in American culture?

Will Smith?

Smith has some interesting haters: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/27054349.html
It doesn't take great google fu to find similiarly ludicrous things about any famous black person.


FTFY.
 
2014-06-03 12:57:59 PM  

stonicus: AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Why is this even a debate?  It's very simple.  If you can't prescribe medicine, you're not a doctor.

The original use of the term Doctor means you were considered well enough educated in an academic field to teach it.  That's all.  It is not exclusive to the medical profession.


I'm well aware of that.  What I was talking about are the pretentious assholes who only hold 'honorary' degrees (or none at all) 

Xetal: Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.

If you think that Dr. is a title only for, or even primarily for, physicians then you might have a laughably bad understanding of the word Doctor.


And you might have an exaggerated definition of the word as it currently exists.  If you introduce yourself as Dr. So-and-So, 99% of people will think you hold an MD unless you explain that you're a 'DOCTOR' of English or mathematics.  My point remains that anyone who doesn't have an MD, and refers to themselves as Dr. So-and-So is a pretentious asswipe.
 
2014-06-03 12:58:24 PM  
Angelou attended the California Labor School and graduated at 17.

She went to work thereafter and stayed employed the rest of her life.

There is no record she ever went to college anywhere, she is entirely self--taught.
 
2014-06-03 12:58:33 PM  

ikanreed: stonicus: Racist? Misogynist? I don't see how in the hell you get either of those from that. All I get from his words is that he doesn't place much value on poetry or literature. I also agree that some of Benjamin Franklin's inventions exceed the work of any poem. Even poems written by white males. Am I also a misogynist racist?

This is exactly how I knew it would go.  "No no no, it can't be racism, here's irrelevant point that could mean its' something else"

It's so damned 1 dimensional.


No, not saying it "can't" be, just saying it doesn't "have" to be, which is what you illogically claim.  In your mind, the ONLY reason someone doesn't like Maya Angelou's poetry is because they are racist.  The only one being 1 dimensional is you my friend.
 
2014-06-03 12:58:49 PM  

CheapEngineer: Perhaps he's just not f*cking impressed by poets. Since no where in his opinion of Maya Angelou was her gender or race mentioned.

static.ddmcdn.com


Bullshiat.
Complete bullshiat.
Double bullshiat.  We were talking about how honorary PhDs can allow for someone to be called doctor, when they were white.  Dr. Franklin was brought up as someone who was so accomplished in his field that he got honorary degrees that were respected.

Maya Angelou is 100% a parellel there.  Top of her field.  PhDs in that field as a result.  Now, if fine arts degrees didn't count in the first place, sure.  We'd have a reasonable excuse.  That doesn't work.  They're racist.  And people rushing to defend them make no farking sense.  Is it a "I'm terrified of being called a racist too" thing?  Because I'm not going there.  One specific argument is undoubtedly steeped in racist overtones, regardless of whether race is brought up.

"You must be racist for identifying racism" is the lamest piece of shiat argument anyone has ever used.

I know I'm not getting through to you.  I don't care anymore.
 
2014-06-03 12:59:01 PM  

ikanreed: stonicus: Racist? Misogynist? I don't see how in the hell you get either of those from that. All I get from his words is that he doesn't place much value on poetry or literature. I also agree that some of Benjamin Franklin's inventions exceed the work of any poem. Even poems written by white males. Am I also a misogynist racist?

This is exactly how I knew it would go.  "No no no, it can't be racism, here's irrelevant point that could mean its' something else"

It's so damned 1 dimensional.


"Irrelevant" doesn't mean "contrary to my opinion."

It's okay.  Reasoning is hard when you think everything is racism.
 
2014-06-03 12:59:39 PM  

Kope: It doesn't take great google fu to find similiarly ludicrous things about any famous black person.


FTFY. Farkers looking for racism where there is none? I am FARKING SHOCKED.
 
2014-06-03 01:00:18 PM  

Sybarite: Every use of Dr. before you're name when you are not an M.D. is pretentious.


THIS!
 
2014-06-03 01:00:24 PM  

AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: stonicus: AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Why is this even a debate?  It's very simple.  If you can't prescribe medicine, you're not a doctor.

The original use of the term Doctor means you were considered well enough educated in an academic field to teach it.  That's all.  It is not exclusive to the medical profession.

I'm well aware of that.  What I was talking about are the pretentious assholes who only hold 'honorary' degrees (or none at all)


No, you weren't talking about honorary anything.  You said "if you can't prescribe medicine, you're not a doctor".  You're just wrong.
 
2014-06-03 01:00:24 PM  

grokca: She's dead, who cares?


Editors. Thanks to the flood of post-mortem articles regarding her, editors are at a loss to nail down exactly how her name should be rendered in print. These things are important to editors.

Dealing with a chip on someone else's shoulder by pointing out the chip on your own shoulder, though, doesn't seem to be the right approach. She's absolutely right, in that it's amazing how "Miss" or "Mrs.", rather than "Dr.", is used when referring to female holders of doctorates - but that's a clear symbol of gender inequity, at least to me, instead of racial inequity, as expression of this trait has been personally observed with little to no heed for the perceived race of the female doctorate holder.

The fun part is that, if we'd move towards a gender-agnostic approach in English, I'd like to believe that many of these issues would vanish - and, just as importantly, many of the gender-specific issues would not be construed as racial-specific or class-specific issues, as well.
 
2014-06-03 01:00:27 PM  

stonicus: No, not saying it "can't" be, just saying it doesn't "have" to be, which is what you illogically claim. In your mind, the ONLY reason someone doesn't like Maya Angelou's poetry is because they are racist. The only one being 1 dimensional is you my friend.


When they're argument lacks a fundamental merit, and there's a well documented and understood phenomenon among people with racist tendencies to do exactly this?  Yeah.

Farkers are by-and-large terrified of the idea that racism can be anything but the overt kind.  I don't get why.
 
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